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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Oct 14, 2012 8:19:55 GMT -5
The new chart isn't radio controlled. Why should only radio releases count toward popularity? Because that's what a "single" is. What's the point of releasing a song to radio if the radio chart doesn't matter? This isn't the radio chart though. The radio chart still exists while this new chart comprises all aspects of data collection to determine the most popular songs of the genre - not the format as decided by radio. I'll add that I'm merely trying to explain the purpose of this new chart as I see it. I do agree that WWNEGBT shouldn't be on this new chart since it's not a country song.
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Post by joey2002 on Oct 14, 2012 12:45:13 GMT -5
Because that's what a "single" is. What's the point of releasing a song to radio if the radio chart doesn't matter? This isn't the radio chart though. The radio chart still exists while this new chart comprises all aspects of data collection to determine the most popular songs of the genre - not the format as decided by radio. I'll add that I'm merely trying to explain the purpose of this new chart as I see it. I do agree that WWNEGBT shouldn't be on this new chart since it's not a country song. The problem is this being proclaimed the "new radio chart" by Billboard – taking over for all the historical data that the old radio chart has collected over the the past 60 years. There still will be an "old radio chart" (Country Airplay) but it won't matter in the record books. If they wanted to create a new country chart, that's fine, but don't ruin decades of history by making it the main chart.
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Post by onebuffalo on Oct 14, 2012 14:00:16 GMT -5
Seeing since the Billboard country chart has always been an airplay chart (even though they had a sales chart during the mid 1980s), I will consider the Airplay chart to be the MAIN chart and not this new chart. After all, other genres do NOT get to decide who is #1 or not.
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Post by Zazie on Oct 14, 2012 20:18:42 GMT -5
I'm still on the road and I may be missing some important comments from various places. However, I am trying to catch up, and I do not see how the Country Airplay chart will keep the full record of the Billboard Country chart. It says specifically that only the history since 1990 (when Country started using BDS data) would be ported over. That, if true, would destroy the continuity of the BB country chart, rather than "keeping the history." It would keep some of the history, I do see that.
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Post by countryfan15 on Oct 14, 2012 21:40:25 GMT -5
This whole new chart would be pointless if everyone would sing more " country sounding" material, then this pop nonsense wouldn't matter. Yes i know its mainly Taylor who is benefiting from this so it's mainly towards her.i miss the first and pretty much only song I've really cared for by her. When " Tim mcgraw" first came out i liked it but now they never play it or anything. This whole week has been a nightmare if you ask me
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Post by Juanca on Oct 14, 2012 23:00:33 GMT -5
Thanks carrieidol1, I signed the petition! :) (I'm not a Country music follower, I was just staring to check the Top 10 since 2 weeks ago, but I think this change is a travesty). Genre charts should be meaningful for the genre! otherwise it's pointless. I agree that streaming and sales should be included for an overall Hot Country Chart, checking proper weights. In the end, it is also not fair to have songs with Clear Channel deals imposed to what people are listening by paying their own money or via on-demand services. However, I don't agree with combination of other airplay. Can you imagine how the AC chart would look like in that case? I know it's currently a stale mess, but that's another story. Another point: how about remixes? If tomorrow there is a dance remix of a Taylor song, or a Rap remix, should that also contribute to the Country chart? Let's also face it, which Country song as of recently has had success in Pop as a country song? Love Story, You Belong With Me, Need You Now, Amazed, all had Pop mixes, which were NOT country.
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Oct 15, 2012 0:16:04 GMT -5
Okay. I have a great appreciation for country music and I have a great appreciation for people that like country music. I enjoy many different country acts and many different country songs from both past and present times. I rarely venture into the country forum but I feel like I do need to say a few things. The first being that I do not agree with the "new chart". That being said, I don't agree with the old one either. I will admit that I have not read through the past ten pages, but I would like to reiterate my idea (which I am sure was already mentioned by another logical thinking person) in that a song should only debut on this new country chart if it has a certain amount of airplay on country radio. If 'I Knew You Were Trouble' somehow manages to debut at #1 on the country chart next week, as much as I love the song, it would be something of a travesty because there is nothing country about that song whatsoever. It is no fair at all that something like this could happen, and it's ridiculous that a song that is tumbling down the country airplay chart, 'We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together', again, a song that I love[/b], is somehow rebounding to the #1 spot through pop airplay. I think the integration of downloads is actually a very logical, forward thinking thing to do. If a song is being purchased, is being streamed, is being viewed on YouTube, that fits the country criteria, then I do think that it is only fair that these huge aspects of gauging popularity of a song or artist should be counted. However, if the particular title doesn't have a substantial amount of airplay at country radio, then it shouldn't be allowed to chart. I have no issue with WANEGBT charting or even rising from this rule change, but to incorporate airplay from a completely different format is just horrific. I love Taylor Swift. I love her music. I love her country songs and I love her pop songs. I feel that it is okay for her to benefit from this rule change. If she is selling the most copies of her single on digital retailers, is being streamed the most on streaming websites, and has a substantial amount of airplay on country radio, then by all means WANEGBT should be the #1 country song...but not when you are taking airplay from different formats into account. I love Taylor, I love her songs....but this is very messed up to say the least. Billboard needs to come up with a better formula for this, because it does have potential and it is a bit silly to say that digital downloads and people purchasing a song shouldn't be taken into account on a chart that is supposed to gauge popularity. ...but I do have something else that irks me. Which is comments like the following: This whole new chart would be pointless if everyone would sing more " country sounding" material, then this pop nonsense wouldn't matter. .......which is so so so so so utterly ridiculous and it almost makes me angry. Taylor Swift is a country artist. She sings country music. She also, occasionally, especially with the release of her latest disc Red, releases music that is very much pop leaning. Why does an artist have to be shunned for doing something different? An artist, after all, shows that he or she is truly an artist if they are willing to think outside of the box. A true artist will experiment with new and different sounds and is brave enough and bold enough to do something crazy, different, and unexpected. Swift's diversity should be applauded, not looked down upon in ridicule. It is a sad day when I see people saying "they should just stick to the typical, original sound that is expected of them" because if everybody was exactly the same and sang similar songs and had similar voices and similar writing styles wouldn't we be completely bored out of our minds? Taylor is a breath of fresh air and just because she is deciding to sing pop music doesn't mean she is sacrificing her artistry. A lot more goes into making a decent pop song than the lot of you would imagine and pop music shouldn't be something that should be frowned upon and sneered at. It is, after all, the most popular genre of music and I think there is a reason for that. In order to make a decent pop song you need to supply witty lyrics and a melody that will stick with you in a major way after a listen or two. Taylor is good at that, and she is also good at writing country songs that people can relate to and people can say "wow, that is a really good country record". She should not have to choose one or the other. While I do not understand Billboard's methodology as of now, I am hoping that they see the flaws in the system and take action as soon as possible before this entire ordeal spirals out of control and I am hoping people open their minds a bit more. There is a happy medium somewhere here, we just have to find it.
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Post by countryfan15 on Oct 15, 2012 1:08:51 GMT -5
^ i can see how my comment was taken out of context,i meant it only that if everyone took a stand and sounded more " country" then possibly this chart would go away.
And as far as Taylor and other artists being a " breath of fresh air" i agree. I do like different artists such as jerrod niemann, Thomas rhett, brantley Gilbert, and others who " lean towards a different sound" and there have been plenty of artists who have done that through the years so it's not just something that recently started. My main point was that there should still be a mix of musical differences in country and that's fine, but with the change of this new chart songs like "wanegbt"," red", and "ronan" are getting counted as country based off her name alone and the fact that she is country. It's great that she is branching out to different sounds, but with this new charting system I'm afraid all the other artists will lean toward pop to get a hit and then there will be no " breath of fresh air" it'll all sound the same. Either way I'm all for different sounds because there's alot of talent out there to keep it new
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Post by city5705boy on Oct 15, 2012 12:43:46 GMT -5
Someone wrote that Taylor Swift's We're Never Ever... shouldn't be on the new chart because it wasn't a country song. Well it was on the country airplay chart peaking at #13 so it's being played on country stations, therefore why shouldn't it be on there?
Also countryhistorian said that sales weren't included on the country chart before, but there was a seperate sales chart. Sales were included into the main chart as late as 1986, then it was only airplay. I remember Johnny Paycheck's Old Violin was greatest gainer in sales one week. This was before the BDS take over in 1990.
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Post by city5705boy on Oct 15, 2012 12:45:34 GMT -5
What's wrong with the new chart, now it's going to be exciting to watch, with what actual people are buying, and like, not controlled by radio, that thinks they know what people want to hear.
The airplay chart is boring with a song taking 35 weeks moving up the chart 40-39-38-39-37-36-35-33-32-30-29-30-28 etc etc
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Post by carriekins on Oct 15, 2012 12:48:11 GMT -5
^^ at the time that WANEGBT hit #1 last week, it was receiving only about 3 million in AI on country radio, at #36. It hit #1 based entirely on its sales and POP airplay.
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Post by dajross6 on Oct 15, 2012 12:57:10 GMT -5
I'm under the impression that POP airplay doesn't affect the country chart. The country songs chart should be digital sales + country airplay + streaming video + streaming music sites (the formula is skewed more to sales than the other three but is probably something like 60/30/5/5 or something close to that). i really don't think Taylor being #2 at pop last week affects the actual airplay numbers, but it does affect the sales numbers as more people are hearing the song outside the country world.
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 15, 2012 12:59:54 GMT -5
I'm under the impression that POP airplay doesn't affect the country chart. The country songs chart should be digital sales + country airplay + streaming video + streaming music sites (the formula is skewed more to sales than the other three but is probably something like 60/30/5/5 or something close to that). i really don't think Taylor being #2 at pop last week affects the actual airplay numbers, but it does affect the sales numbers as more people are hearing the song outside the country world. Well, your impressions is wrong. Billboard has stated that crossover play is counting toward Country Songs.
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Post by wastedtime on Oct 15, 2012 13:17:19 GMT -5
Someone wrote that Taylor Swift's We're Never Ever... shouldn't be on the new chart because it wasn't a country song. Well it was on the country airplay chart peaking at #13 so it's being played on country stations, therefore why shouldn't it be on there? I did because it had a country remix. The charting one is not the country version, it's the pop version.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2012 13:19:56 GMT -5
I'm under the impression that POP airplay doesn't affect the country chart. The country songs chart should be digital sales + country airplay + streaming video + streaming music sites (the formula is skewed more to sales than the other three but is probably something like 60/30/5/5 or something close to that). i really don't think Taylor being #2 at pop last week affects the actual airplay numbers, but it does affect the sales numbers as more people are hearing the song outside the country world. Well, that's incorrect. Billboard has CONFIRMED that the total airplay for a song on any chart consists of airplay it's getting on all formats. So yes, Taylor's POP airplay is counting. Haven't posted much the last few days, as my laptop broke and I'm waiting to get a new one. Should be up and running in a few days. My big issues with this new chart continue to be how it significantly (and negatively) impacts the history of the Billboard country chart, how sales and airplay are two entirely different things, and also something that has just recently been mentioned...we have no clue how they calculate this chart. And that's a huge issue. Why so secretive about the airplay-sales-streaming ratio? Also, for those who think songs will climb faster on this chart...think again. This is essentially a country hot 100. On the regular Hot 100, songs don't go recurrent for months as long as they continue to sell and receive a lot of airplay. That same thing is going to happen here. The recurrent rule states that songs will remain on the chart as long as they are within the top 25! They won't drop off until they are a) more than 20 weeks old AND b) are descending below No. 25. Have y'all looked at the first issue? Many songs that are doing great with sales (likely to be Gold and/or Platinum soon) and radio fell back from their most recent positions on the airplay-only chart. Lee Brice, Jake Owen, Easton Corbin, Rascal Flatts, Tim McGraw, Miranda Lambert, Eric Church, Kip Moore, Justin Moore, Greg Bates, Jerrod Niemann, Randy Houser, Kenny Chesney, Toby Keith, Casey James, Dierks Bentley, Darius Rucker, Kristen Kelly, Kacey Musgraves, Chris Cagle, Thomas Rhett, Eli Young Band, Lauren Alaina, Rodney Atkins, Maggie Rose, and Alan Jackson all fell backward! So I fail to see how this chart is going to increase chart climbing speed. It'll get worse. The big hits will stay on forever even once they've peaked, which will cause the new songs and less-established artists to stay lower on the chart for much longer while they wait for space to open up. We will also see plenty of top 10 bows (or even #1 debuts), fueled by rabid fans who rush to iTunes to buy a single at midnight. Fans buying the songs isn't a problem to me. I love to see artists selling well. But I don't think there will ever be a reasonable way to combine sales and airplay, as if they are the same thing. And including Pop airplay and digital sales in this new 'main' chart skews heavily in favor of the crossover acts, while significantly compromising what fans identify as country music.
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Post by michellef on Oct 15, 2012 13:36:51 GMT -5
i also find it funny how so many taylor fans are so quick to say that the new chart is better and sales should be included, etc. do they not remember that country radio is what gave taylor her start? who knows where she would be without it.
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Post by boomer187 on Oct 15, 2012 15:58:22 GMT -5
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Oct 15, 2012 16:11:08 GMT -5
^ This is good, people. Everyone who hates the new chart — I insist, keep making noise. Spread the word as much as you can.
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Post by stevieb1434 on Oct 15, 2012 16:32:57 GMT -5
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Post by Marv on Oct 15, 2012 17:57:59 GMT -5
All you really know regarding how ludicrous that BB chart is is the fact that 'Blown Away' received some 6,000+ more spins within the past week that 'We Are....' has, and that the latter has lost 1,700+ spins in the past two weeks, alongside 11,000,000+ AIs.
Why should we ignore BB?
Here's four more reasons.
Bob Kingsley Lon Helton Kix Brooks Crook & Chase
They all use Mediabase for their countdown shows.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2012 18:31:15 GMT -5
The new "Hot Country Songs" chart is completely redundant and pointless. Here's why:
10/20 Billboard Hot 100 - Country Titles are bolded, their position on the new "country" chart follows in parentheses
01 01 16 Maroon 5, One More Night 02 02 05 Psy, Gangnam Style 03 NE 01 One Direction, Live While We're Young 04 03 33 Fun., Some Nights 05 04 09 Taylor Swift, We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together (1) 06 NE 01 Taylor Swift, Red (2) 07 06 16 Justin Bieber Featuring Big Sean, As Long As You Love Me 08 NE 01 Adele, Skyfall 09 05 14 P!nk, Blow Me (One Last Kiss) 10 09 28 Alex Clare, Too Close
11 10 15 Owl City & Carly Rae Jepsen, Good Time 12 08 21 Flo Rida, Whistle 13 11 30 Neon Trees, Everybody Talks 14 13 02 Ke$ha, Die Young 15 12 42 Ellie Goulding, Lights 16 14 15 Chris Brown, Don't Wake Me Up 17 25 10 Ne-Yo, Let Me Love You (Until You Learn To Love Yourself) 18 16 02 Rihanna, Diamonds 19 22 05 Kanye West, Jay-Z, Big Sean, Clique 20 15 33 Carly Rae Jepsen, Call Me Maybe
21 17 20 Katy Perry, Wide Awake 22 19 40 Gotye Featuring Kimbra, Somebody That I Used To Know 23 20 27 Kanye West, Big Sean, Pusha T, 2 Chainz, Mercy 24 29 14 Carrie Underwood, Blown Away (3) 25 27 15 Phillip Phillips, Home 26 18 11 Nicki Minaj, Pound The Alarm 27 31 10 Miguel, Adorn 28 30 13 Train, 50 Ways To Say Goodbye 29 21 25 Maroon 5 Featuring Wiz Khalifa, Payphone 30 26 27 Demi Lovato, Give Your Heart A Break
31 23 24 Hunter Hayes, Wanted (4) 32 57 09 Mumford & Sons, I Will Wait 33 28 26 David Guetta Featuring Sia, Titanium 34 NE 01 Bruno Mars, Locked Out Of Heaven 35 32 40 Jason Mraz, I Won't Give Up 36 24 04 Enrique Iglesias Featuring Sammy Adams, Finally Found You 37 33 22 2 Chainz Featuring Drake, No Lie 38 38 13 French Montana Featuring Rick Ross, Drake & Lil Wayne, Pop That 39 35 12 Jason Aldean, Take A Little Ride (5) 40 36 18 The Lumineers, Ho Hey
41 40 18 Imagine Dragons, It's Time 42 34 25 Rihanna, Where Have You Been 43 45 08 Florida Georgia Line, Cruise (6) 44 37 34 One Direction, What Makes You Beautiful 45 48 13 Ed Sheeran, The A Team 46 43 21 Dustin Lynch, Cowboys And Angels (7) 47 52 07 Luke Bryan, Kiss Tomorrow Goodbye (8) 48 41 05 Alicia Keys Featuring Nicki Minaj, Girl On Fire 49 42 42 Fun. Featuring Janelle Monae, We Are Young 50 49 14 Trey Songz Featuring T.I., 2 Reasons
51 44 17 Lee Brice, Hard To Love (9) 52 07 02 Taylor Swift, Begin Again (10) 53 47 13 Frank Ocean, Thinkin Bout You 54 39 17 Cher Lloyd, Want U Back 55 51 09 Future, Turn On The Lights 56 56 09 2 Chainz Featuring Kanye West, Birthday Song 57 55 09 David Guetta Featuring Chris Brown & Lil Wayne, I Can Only Imagine 58 58 04 Juicy J Featuring Lil Wayne & 2 Chainz, Bandz A Make Her Dance 59 67 06 OneRepublic, Feel Again 60 61 09 Jake Owen, The One That Got Away (12)
61 46 18 Little Big Town, Pontoon (would still be on the new chart due to its new recurrent rules, but it went recurrent before the new methodology was implemented) 62 64 03 Christina Aguilera, Your Body 63 59 14 Easton Corbin, Lovin' You Is Fun (13) 64 69 07 Muse, Madness 65 63 11 Rascal Flatts, Come Wake Me Up (14) 66 60 02 Mumford & Sons, Babel 67 65 14 Tim McGraw, Truck Yeah (15) 68 68 11 Miranda Lambert, Fastest Girl In Town (16) 69 81 02 Flo Rida, I Cry 70 62 06 Karmin, Hello
71 72 08 Kendrick Lamar, Swimming Pools (Drank) 72 70 08 Brandy Featuring Chris Brown, Put It Down 73 NE 01 Brad Paisley, Southern Comfort Zone (17) 74 NE 01 Kid Cudi Featuring King Chip, Just What I Am 75 66 15 Matchbox Twenty, She's So Mean 76 73 07 Eric Church, Creepin' (18) 77 88 03 Kip Moore, Beer Money (19) 78 NE 01 Gary Allan, Every Storm (Runs Out Of Rain) (20) 79 71 20 Usher Featuring Rick Ross, Lemme See 80 82 03 Usher, Numb
81 86 02 Mumford & Sons, Whispers In The Dark 82 80 05 Lil Wayne Featuring Detail, No Worries 83 78 05 Beyoncé, Dance For You 84 92 02 Mumford & Sons, Holland Road 85 76 16 Meek Mill Featuring Drake, Amen 86 77 06 Trey Songz, Dive In 87 83 04 Justin Moore, Til My Last Day (21) 88 94 02 Mumford & Sons, Ghosts That We Knew 89 96 03 Greg Bates, Did It For The Girl (22) 90 91 03 Swedish House Mafia Featuring John Martin, Don't You Worry Child
91 NE 01 Glee Cast, The Scientist 92 97 06 Jerrod Niemann, Shinin' On Me (23) 93 79 17 Blake Shelton, Over (like "Pontoon", was already sent recurrent before the methodology change was implemented) 94 85 02 Mumford & Sons, Lover's Eyes 95 87 06 Passion Pit, Take A Walk 96 RE 02 The Script Featuring will.i.am, Hall Of Fame 97 NE 01 Mumford & Sons, Lover Of The Light 98 95 06 Imagine Dragons, Radioactive 99 NE 01 DJ Drama, 2 Chainz, Meek Mill, Jeremih, My Moment 100 NE 01 Randy Houser, How Country Feels (24)
*The only country song missing is "Why Ya Wanna"--not sure why. It's #11 on the 'country chart' but I'd guess the Hot 100 chart sent it recurrent for some odd reason.
Newsflash: Billboard has gotten VERY lazy. All they are doing now for the country chart is taking the Hot 100 and deleting all the non-country songs from it. Same goes for the Rock chart and others that have gotten the same makeover. For the rock chart, they just delete all the non-rock songs. The new "Billboard Hot Country Songs" is absolutely no different than a "Country Hot 100".
Absolutely ridiculous. Some of y'all who want sales and streaming measured, that's fine. We already have the all-genre Hot 100. If you wanted the current 'new official country chart', you could've just pulled out the country songs from the current Hot 100.
Now this new chart tarnishes all the record-keeping we've got. It greatly harms the chances of success for artists who don't seek cross-over airplay. And under its rules (plus it's only a 50-space chart), new songs will take FOREVER to climb, because the old ones and mega hits will stay on until they drop below #25.
Keep sales and airplay separate, please. They are not the same thing. Streaming is cool to track...I listen to a ton of music on my computer. But you know what? I don't count in the streaming, because I don't listen to Spotify or any of those other services that Billboard monitors. I download music from iTunes & Amazon, stream it off of Windows Media Player, and scrobble it with last.fm. I have thousands upon thousands of plays on Last, but my listening won't help my favorites on the chart, because I don't care to stream songs from those other services. That's another issue I have.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2012 19:12:13 GMT -5
What I'm wondering now is this: If Billboard will mess up the Country Songs chart like this, what new rule(s) will they implement to find a way to mess up the other charts...such as the Albums chart(s)?
I'm sure they will think of something. >:(
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Post by joey2002 on Oct 15, 2012 19:19:30 GMT -5
What I'm wondering now is this: If Billboard will mess up the Country Songs chart like this, what new rule(s) will they implement to find a way to mess up the other charts...such as the Albums chart(s)? Only count albums that are bought from a new Billboard online store.
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Post by dajross6 on Oct 15, 2012 20:37:45 GMT -5
The only thing Billboard will ever change to the albums chart is how catalog albums are counted I'm guessing. The Billboard 200 is almost as treasured as the Hot 100.
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Post by Marv on Oct 15, 2012 20:39:31 GMT -5
Of course BB has also had some EXTREMELY stupid rules regarding their album chart, one of which was that any CD which was only available at one retailer wouldn't be eligible for the charts.
Then the Eagles sold 700K+ copies of 'Long Road Out Of Eden' in its first week in the marketplace in 2007, and that asinine rule went bye-bye, mercifully!
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Oct 15, 2012 21:04:18 GMT -5
Wow, that parallel to the Hot 100 is really telling. Combine that with Taylor being light-years ahead of the #3 song on the first new chart, and the HUGE amount of protests I'm already seeing, and my money's on the "new" BB charts going away pretty fast.
Again. Keep protesting this, everyone. Spread the word on how you hate it. Get petitions signed. Billboard will eventually have no choice but to listen if the complaints get loud and numerous enough.
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Post by wastedtime on Oct 15, 2012 21:25:28 GMT -5
Some of y'all who want sales and streaming measured, that's fine. We already have the all-genre Hot 100. If you wanted the current 'new official country chart', you could've just pulled out the country songs from the current Hot 100. Yes but I think the top country song on the Hot 100 should be the #1 country song (again, as long as it's a country song). It's the most popular country song, not just the one country radio is playing the most.
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Post by Arabella21 on Oct 15, 2012 22:43:57 GMT -5
Yes but I think the top country song on the Hot 100 should be the #1 country song (again, as long as it's a country song). It's the most popular country song, not just the one country radio is playing the most. The "as long as it's a country song" part is the real hangup...I just think pop mixes should have no part in determining a how well a song does on the country charts. I think it was time for the genre charts to start counting streaming and sales, instead of maintaining the position that the most popular [genre] song of the week is only what [genre] radio says it is. Billboard is just really messy about classifying which genre a song belongs to. They also really need to rethink the whole pop mix issue, especially as it pertains to country. Other than that, though, I don't have a problem with huge sales allowing a song to chart high on a genre chart even without corresponding airplay. If 300K people are buying a country song, is it not a popular country song for that particular week? The new chart is trying to measure a somewhat different thing than what the old chart did and a lot of people can't get past that. For music overall, I generally like the Hot 100. Songs that have sold well for weeks and gotten a decent Hot 100 position are sometimes given a chance at Top 40 because programmers can see that wow, this song has been selling well for weeks, so maybe they should get on board with what people like, and they start playing it more. I can't see that as a bad thing. Ideally, the new country chart would work the same way and give more female artists, or artists who were decent sellers but radio was lukewarm about, a chance to get more airplay at country. But, with Billboard counting pop mix airplay from Top 40/Hot AC/AC/etc. on the "new" Hot Country Songs, the new chart is going to be completely ignored by programmers, at least in country, and I don't think that's what Billboard was hoping for.
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Post by michellef on Oct 15, 2012 22:48:37 GMT -5
Yes but I think the top country song on the Hot 100 should be the #1 country song (again, as long as it's a country song). It's the most popular country song, not just the one country radio is playing the most. The "as long as it's a country song" part is the real hangup...I just think pop mixes should have no part in determining a how well a song does on the country charts. I think it was time for the genre charts to start counting streaming and sales, instead of maintaining the position that the most popular [genre] song of the week is only what [genre] radio says it is. Billboard is just really messy about classifying which genre a song belongs to. They also really need to rethink the whole pop mix issue, especially as it pertains to country. Other than that, though, I don't have a problem with huge sales allowing a song to chart high on a genre chart even without corresponding airplay. If 300K people are buying a country song, is it not a popular country song for that particular week? The new chart is trying to measure a somewhat different thing than what the old chart did and a lot of people can't get past that. For music overall, I generally like the Hot 100. Sometimes radio has decided to play a song more because of its sustained sales and a sales-boosted Hot 100 position and I can't see that as a bad thing. Ideally, the new country chart would work the same way and give more female artists, or artists who were decent sellers but radio was lukewarm about, a chance to get more airplay at country. But, with Billboard counting pop mix airplay from Top 40/Hot AC/AC/etc. on the "new" Hot Country Songs, the new chart is going to be completely ignored by programmers, at least in country, and I don't think that's what Billboard was hoping for. but it's not like radio programmers didn't previously have access to see what songs were big sellers. that's what the digital songs chart is for, so why would this new chart suddenly make them change their minds about what to play?
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