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Post by nick64 on May 8, 2013 16:08:43 GMT -5
Ugh post fail
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2013 16:12:04 GMT -5
I wasn't acting scummy in that game, I got lynched for not getting nightkilled after roleclaiming. Even though it could have easily been a set up (there have been plenty of situations since then where people roleclaimed but didn't die... for example Cynthia and Heartbreak last game), and josh also roleclaimed at the same time as me yet didn't get nightkilled. Poor judgement on you guys' part, though you accidentally ended up being correct about me being scum. Finally, after also lynching me 4 times before that when I was a townie. Also I still don't see how anything I did today is scummy. You guys are confusing crappy town with scummy, the two aren't the same.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2013 16:24:20 GMT -5
Vote: Nightfire because it's entertaining when we near a lynch toward him on Day 1 and he gets mad. OMG I have a vote against me! I have to reveal my role now!
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2013 16:28:51 GMT -5
Actually, Vote: Kurt because he bandwagoned on Codex really early. Nick and Rocky are also viable targets, but Kurt jumped on the bandwagon last.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2013 16:31:13 GMT -5
Or should we format it as Vote: Kurt so they get a notification that they were voted against?
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Post by Kurt on May 8, 2013 16:31:24 GMT -5
OMGUS!11!!11one!1
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Post by josh on May 8, 2013 16:47:10 GMT -5
Or should we format it as Vote: Kurt so they get a notification that they were voted against? had that thought beforetoo much work imo
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2013 17:38:21 GMT -5
I also did it for fun, that's important too to have fun. See I taught you guys another lesson. :) You have defenses as to why you did it, for sure. But they are kinda all over the map. Your primary defense seems to be that you did it to help him and to help the rest of us remember the rules. Now you say another reason is for fun. In an earlier post, you even said that for all we know he could be mafia and you would have been doing us a favor. That could imply that your motive was to actually trick him. Also, why did you say you were a Doctor? There's no Doctor's in this game. ??? Codex was a doctor in the last game. A similar bandwagon formed against him on day 1 of the game b/c of a scummish comment he made, and then he got killed on night 1. That's what he was referring to. Nick makes a good point, but the way that bandwagon came together quickly gives me major pause. So I lean a bit more toward one or more of the voters being werewolves than I do Codex being one. also this is jmo but I don't know that I find the 'let me purposely do something underhanded and then reveal my motives' thing to be the best player strategy. If Codex were playing elsewhere would this be accepted town behavior, or would he be lynched on principle? For example, in the last game the thing that brought him under fire was that it seemed as if he was attempting to out a player as a power role. That's something scum would want to do; as a townie that is a terrible enough move that other players might consider it a worthy lynch simply b/c it means they're getting rid of a bad player early in the game. And now you have him testing a player to see if he would break a game rule. Town gains nothing from a fellow townie getting an infraction like that. I am not saying Codex is a terrible player - well, no more terrible than the rest of us for sure, he is one of the better ones IMO - but as far as becoming a better player is concerned he should consider ditching or refining* this strategy. It's going to catch up to him eventually, and it could cost his alignment the game (whether he is town or scum). *Underhanded playing does work when it's done in such a way that it gets scum to reveal themselves, but what Codex did didn't seem designed to do that. If he did end up drawing a werewolf-charged lynchmob toward himself that seems to be an accident.
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Post by Az Paynter on May 8, 2013 18:27:23 GMT -5
However if a werewolf-charged lynchmob did start forming then the scummish behaviour that DREW that mob could be turned to Town's advantage later. On the other hand there has to be at least one scum member who has actually thought of this possibility and would probably discourage a werewolf-charged mob.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2013 20:36:55 GMT -5
I'm starting to think again about Codex. I find it hard to believe he was just "testing" Az... I think it was more of a cover-up to his mistake of doing that because stuff like that has bit him in the ass in the past.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2013 21:22:35 GMT -5
Make love, don't fight. Let's poop tonight! *Jams*
Hi :)
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2013 21:27:44 GMT -5
Hi, Daniel!
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2013 21:29:14 GMT -5
Hey Daniel and Mitchell!
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2013 21:36:20 GMT -5
I'm not suspicious of Codex, really. Not yet at least. I think he's acting like he normally does. Nobody's really done much I find suspicious yet.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2013 21:46:50 GMT -5
Day 1 Begins
Juanito is confirmed to be the Little Girl.
Deadline has been set for 05.12.13 11:59PM EST.
It takes 8/14 votes to lynch!
Day 1: Vote Count 6 Nick: Sean, Heartbreak Slizzard: Juanito, Rocky Countryrocks: Drag Josh: Codex Sean: Az, Josh Drag: Cynthia Heartbreak: Countryrocks Codex: Nick Rocky: Slizzard Nightfire: Kurt Kurt: Nightfire
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Post by Juan Carlos on May 8, 2013 21:52:14 GMT -5
OMG! 5 pages already!?! Well, I've just checked them and I found some things very suspiciously. - As you know, I'm townie and my role is mentioned beforehand. Also, there was a random vote acceleration. Is it necessary to emphasize about that? - When the Codex bandwagon (*) happened, there were many people who followed the trend to lynch him, but there was one who summarize it (very well). As a consequence, I could say (for now): Vote: Josh
(*) The bandwagon could go either way really as I'm not 100% sure if he's not really playing with us (Town) this time.
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Post by Juan Carlos on May 8, 2013 22:02:38 GMT -5
I always fail with the emoticons. Damn!
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2013 9:01:44 GMT -5
lso this is jmo but I don't know that I find the 'let me purposely do something underhanded and then reveal my motives' thing to be the best player strategy. Town gains nothing from a fellow townie getting an infraction like that. *Underhanded playing does work when it's done in such a way that it gets scum to reveal themselves, but what Codex did didn't seem designed to do that. If he did end up drawing a werewolf-charged lynchmob toward himself that seems to be an accident. 1) I don't think it's a good strategy either. - In 90s mafia or whatever that game was, I didn't actually do anything scummy. People just started voting me for acting weird, lol, I would never do something that benefits the town. IN FACT, "being weird" meant that I was questioning everyone, throwing suspicion back and forth on miniscule comments, which imo was a town move. - Me jokingly calling you out on being a seeker wasn't a strategy, it was just that, a joke. I didn't actually think you were a seeker, since that would have been waaaay too obvious. Therefore I felt it wouldn't do the town any harm to joke about it, and I was right, you weren't a seeker. 2) Why do you assume Az is a townie? He could very well be a mafia member. I thought it would be funny if he fell for it, but besides that, even if he did fall for it, one warning wouldn't have done any harm. You need like 5 to get modkilled, lol. Either way, now everyone playing this game knows not to post printscreens. I am such a good Special Ed teacher. :'( Xiivi should pay me. 3) The only time I tried to get a scum-charged lynchmob was in 90s Mafia. I tried to act strange, because I hoped that mafia would try to convince the town that strange=scum. It later turned out though that like everyone in my lynchmob was a townie except like one person. So I haven't tried it again, lmao.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2013 9:03:19 GMT -5
"I would never do something that benefits the town."
LMAO I mean mafia.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2013 9:14:35 GMT -5
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Post by Sean on May 9, 2013 9:27:10 GMT -5
Oh Codex...you make me happy lol
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2013 9:34:01 GMT -5
We need more people to come in and talk to get the game rolling... SPEAK NOW, MY YOUNG CHILDREN (who may actually be older than me)
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2013 10:02:05 GMT -5
bwahahaha Codex
just popping in quickly right now, but to answer a question you had, i wasn't assuming az was a townie, but assuming that you were assuming az was a townie (the way you kept saying 'i'm trying to help him out,' etc. made it seem as if you thought he was town). i hope that made sense.
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Post by josh on May 9, 2013 10:31:38 GMT -5
"I would never do something that benefits the town." LMAO I mean mafia. I saw that and was like what.
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Post by Az Paynter on May 9, 2013 10:52:51 GMT -5
ZOMG IZ CODEX SLIPPIN ALREADY IZ HE MAFIA?!?!?! LMAO I'm sorry I don't actually believe that. For now at least, I'm choosing to believe that was just a mistake/bad choice of words.
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Post by josh on May 9, 2013 11:14:05 GMT -5
We need more people to come in and talk to get the game rolling... SPEAK NOW, MY YOUNG CHILDREN (who may actually be older than me) This. This is supposed to be an educational game but we can't learn if no one talks and gets the game rolling. 14 players, 36 hours, and not even 5 full pages? lol
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2013 11:27:49 GMT -5
Well here's an idea, maybe it will get the ball rolling.
Everyone currently has a vote on someone. In one post state WHY you think the person you're currently voting for is worth lynching. Don't worry about it being a 'weak' reason or whatever b/c we're all going to have weak reasoning right now. However, weak reasoning >>> no reasoning. "It was my accelerated vote," "I was RVSing," and "I dunno, no one seems that suspicious yet" are NOT valid responses and if you try to cop out like that I'm voting for you on principle. If you honestly can't think of a reason to be voting for the person you have your vote on, change your vote and state why you picked the other person.
I'll start. I currently have my vote on Drag. I think the bandwagon that formed against Codex was sudden and weird, and Drag happened to be on that bandwagon, so I think he's a valid suspect. I am comfortable leaving my vote there for now. *passes mic to next poster*
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2013 11:36:57 GMT -5
Okay, here's my reasoning that I said earlier:
I have my vote on Kurt right now because he was the last person to join the Codex lynch mob, and that happened extremely early on. I don't think a townie would be so quick to jump on another person's lynch mob that early on in the first day phase. Nick and Rocky were also late-joiners, so I see them as being viable targets as well for the same reasoning.
I also think that Codex would be a smart-ish lynch because of the way he was acting earlier on regarding the screenshot situation. I would have been okay with it had he said that it was a joke that he was playing, but, since he said that he was trying to teach us lessons after the fact rather than saying it earlier on in the game (ie. something like "I'm going to be doing some strategies to help you guys play" or whatever). I think he was trying to just cover up what he was doing. Now, I don't know if he did that because he's scum or because he always gets killed early on and coming up with an excuse could save him, but both reasons seem like they make sense when you look at Codex as a player. Regardless, I still think the whole "I was trying to teach you guys" thing was just a cover-up.
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Post by Az Paynter on May 9, 2013 11:39:31 GMT -5
My vote is on Sean because it was an RVS vote. Aside from that, I don't recall him posting much in the thread yet, which is flying under the radar and exactly the sort of behaviour that really screwed with the town last game. He needs to come into the game and make meaningful contributions so the rest of us can get a better gauge of his innocence or guilt. Jusy lynching the dead-weight does the town no good if that dead-weight is part of the numbers the town actually NEEDS.
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Post by LBTrocks on May 9, 2013 12:05:38 GMT -5
My vote is currently on Heartbreak, and that was completely random. Now, since some suspicious activities have been happening, I feel it's time to change my vote.
Vote: Kurt
My reason is fairly simple. I'm leaning towards believing that one or more of the posters who rapidly voted for Codex are possibly scum. I'm voting Kurt because he was the last one to do so. Why I think that's important is because at that point, Codex was getting WAY too close to a lynch- in the RVS stage. I can't see where lynching someone during that stage would be a good thing to have happen. Kurt must have realized how close Codex was to getting lynched, but he voted for him anyway. That leads me to believe that Codex is possibly a townie and Kurt is possibly scum.
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