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Post by Juan Carlos on Jun 11, 2013 11:29:30 GMT -5
I really haven't thought of this. Great. This have make me to be more confuse. Should be read as above. However, when Nick implied that his partner could be a scum and voted for Devin, it made me feel that both of them were really townies, feeling both each of them could only be scum only felt scum to the other. Should be read as above.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2013 11:59:04 GMT -5
Thank you. I think juanito is town. Past play was just erroneous newbie mistakes, which happens. In Platinum I didn't even know scum knew who their partners were, or something like that, and thought literally everything was suspicious. I otherwise see nothing scummy from his play. For those who think Juanito is/was suspicious, can your please reiterate why? Thank you.Slizzard is the only one I'm still up in the air on, but all of his pasts posts in which he provided somewhat significant analysis made me think him town. Lozzy can you please answer my above questions? I'm sticking with Az/Jason as the probable scum pair. I'm leaving my vote on Az.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2013 12:01:22 GMT -5
Well, the questions on page 16 directed at you, I suppose.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2013 12:11:54 GMT -5
Jason, Az, why was Devin suspicious again? I only placed my vote on him so that Nick would be lynched, because I was thinking he was scum.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jun 11, 2013 13:07:50 GMT -5
That's an opinion and it may be valid. Nevertheless, I feel that Max was on a lynch on D-1 and then backed off on D-2 to avoid suspicion. I also found it odd that he suspected Josh but then went after Juan both D-2 and earlier in D-3. One possible reason, as I stated before, is that he stated suspicion of Josh to throw off links to you and, rather than continue to go after josh/me, he switched to Juan. It's plausible but it could be wrong. I wholly admit that. But this is what I got to work with. It's curious that after I throw out the suspicions on Max and you, suddenly Max switches his vote to me. I may as well answer that now. I was in on the lynch in D1 simply because I suspected both drag and codex more than anyone else at that point. I still stand by my suspicion of them even though it has proven incorrect. I don't remember if I was the first to suspect one or the other or both but I definitely suspected them. I ultimately didn't vote for Nick on D2 because I wasn't convinced. I've no reason to avoid suspicion because I've nothing to be suspicious about. Your theory is pretty basic and admittedly one I'd use myself if I wanted to suspect someone but you and I both know it's a weak theory. I've also been pretty vocal on my suspicions of many people in this game that have been ongoing and while I haven't always voted for them (ie. josh), I've usually stated my reasoning for why. Admittedly, looking back, josh's behaviour at the end of D2 should have been cause for me to throw a vote on him at the beginning of D3 rather than sticking with juan but as I explained yesterday, I wasn't sure how to compute his actions. My thought was that josh was trying to get out of the game or somehow throw the game. Scummy, perhaps. Poor gameplay, sure. Questionable enough to warrant answers before settling in on a vote for him. Placing an FoS (or a vote) on your own partner seems like it's been an action that leads to the belief one is town because no one would directly risk themselves like that and it throws attention on someone else. But it could also act as a cover, or a last resort, for a scum whose partner is the towniest town in the game. I think your tactic now is to try to link me to kunt by placing your attention on both of us while your vote on me. You're hoping others follow suit but I don't think you're not fully invested into this because you're taking the safer route and voting for me rather than kunt. And I don't think you can be fully invested in it because as scum, you know it's a cover.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jun 11, 2013 13:11:20 GMT -5
Maybe we should lynch Nick again? LMAO!!! No need to lynch me because I'm *dead*
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2013 20:57:38 GMT -5
Day 3 Begins
Deadline has been set for 06.12.13 11:59PM EST.
It takes 4/6 votes to lynch!
Day 3: Vote Count 1 Max: Jason Jason: Az, Max Az: Kunt Not Voting: Juan, Slizzard
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 11, 2013 23:24:58 GMT -5
Jason, Az, why was Devin suspicious again? I only placed my vote on him so that Nick would be lynched, because I was thinking he was scum. I thought Devin was being a bit too pushy against other players (myself and Codex) based on too little actual evidence and the general thread of 'overdefensiveness'. I've said, I don't think Codex was being overdefensive about anything, I certainly wasn't when I was accused of being overdefensive. I just found Devin's pushing really odd and I thought he had scum-based motives for his doing so. I don't think I actually saw what was so scummy about Nick, why did you find him more suspect than Devin?
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 11, 2013 23:27:25 GMT -5
Only 'cause if you were so sure about Nick being scum, why was your vote on Codex at the end of D1? If you thought Nick was scum, your vote would've given him majority (and thus a lynch) instead of Codex (who I didn't vote for because I never believed him to be scum in the first place).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2013 23:33:57 GMT -5
Because I thought Codex was scum, and wasn't totally sure of Nick until after the lynch? A lot of what Nick was saying either seemed to be parroting or just generally weird to me. Codex found him strange too (and I think his dying breath was to lynch Nick and myself, lmfao). After Codex flipped town, I thought he was the next likely target.
If I didn't already say it before in the thread, I just thought Devin was playing like an inexperienced townie. Which is true; he hadn't played in a while.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2013 23:35:46 GMT -5
The GOOD news for town here is that we have a greater chance of hitting scum, since we basically have a 66.6% chance. That in mind, the deadline is tomorrow. I have it off; I'll comb the thread and see what I can't dig up.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 0:24:57 GMT -5
Day 3 Begins
Deadline has been set for 06.12.13 11:59PM EST.
It takes 4/6 votes to lynch!
Day 3: Vote Count 1 Max: Jason Jason: Az, Max Az: Kunt Not Voting: Juan, Slizzard
Slizzard, Mafia Lover has been modkilled for inactivity. Juanito, Town Lover has committed suicide.
Day 3 Begins
Deadline has been set for 06.12.13 11:59PM EST.
It takes 3/4 votes to lynch!
Day 3: Vote Count 2 Not Voting: Max, Kunt, Az, Jason
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 0:28:48 GMT -5
lol.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 0:31:56 GMT -5
Vote: Kunt
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 0:38:03 GMT -5
Nevermind, Unvote: Kunt I'll answer any questions anyone may have for me directly.
Max, do you feel Az is suspicious at all?
Likewise, Az, do you feel Max is suspicious at all?
Jason, are you still sure of Max? Do you think there is any connection to Slizzard? Your Kunt/Max theory is starting to look a bit awkward.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 12, 2013 0:44:51 GMT -5
...oh. Here I was thinking the other partner would LIVE if one was modkilled. @xoxo I've not really gotten any scum vibes from Max. I didn't really get the case against Juanito either (throwing that out there in case anyone asks). I never bothered with Slizzard 'cause I figured he'd wind up getting prodkilled like this, I wasn't expecting SlizzieLou though.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 0:47:21 GMT -5
Hm. Ok, I'll bite.
Vote: Max
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Post by JCMF3 on Jun 12, 2013 4:32:48 GMT -5
Well my theory was clearly shot... And things just got much more interesting.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jun 12, 2013 5:37:56 GMT -5
The deadline is still tonight, right? I'll have to do my analysis after work today and weigh the options. My thoughts now are that whoever the scum is has essentially been playing it alone so I have my doubts we can get clues from Slizzard. On the flipside, he doesn't have many posts to search through so it shouldn't take long to at least try.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 11:27:05 GMT -5
@mod: what happens if there is a no lynch, meaning no one places a vote on anyone?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 11:54:11 GMT -5
Bigger question; did anyone else have any issues with their Quick Topic? I couldn't access mine and Max's a little while ago, and the entire site wasn't working for me (I mean I couldn't even open QT's from previous games). Xiivi said it was working fine for him when I said I was having issues, so I was wondering if this was an isolated incident or if anyone else had issues. For the record, it's working again for me now. Max, were you and Az conversing around this time in your QT?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 11:58:41 GMT -5
Joy and rapture; reading through the thread I have reason to believe any one of you could be scum.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 11:59:27 GMT -5
The deadline is still tonight, right? I'll have to do my analysis after work today and weigh the options. My thoughts now are that whoever the scum is has essentially been playing it alone so I have my doubts we can get clues from Slizzard. On the flipside, he doesn't have many posts to search through so it shouldn't take long to at least try. Could you answer my above question please? Thank you.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 12:00:03 GMT -5
Well my theory was clearly shot... And things just got much more interesting. Could you answer my above question please? [2] Thank you.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jun 12, 2013 12:40:30 GMT -5
Bigger question; did anyone else have any issues with their Quick Topic? I couldn't access mine and Max's a little while ago, and the entire site wasn't working for me (I mean I couldn't even open QT's from previous games). Xiivi said it was working fine for him when I said I was having issues, so I was wondering if this was an isolated incident or if anyone else had issues. For the record, it's working again for me now. Max, were you and Az conversing around this time in your QT? We were but it was really just a one message at a time thing. We haven't really been able to have full-on conversations in there so it was always a post with a question that was answered anywhere from 12 to 30 hours later. I can check when I get off work (I shouldn't even be here now) to see the specifics in regards to the timing of Az's post you quoted and our QT messages to see what we were talking about at that point if you want. Was that the question you wanted me to answer? I realize I forgot to answer one you asked a day or so ago about why we found Juan suspicious. Though I did write out my full thoughts on each of the then-left members a few days ago (including him) and not really much has changed though I plan on doing it again this evening.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jun 12, 2013 12:44:19 GMT -5
These are the times of our posts in the QT (all times in ET):
A - May 31 - 7:58pm M - May 31 - 10:14pm A - June 1 - 4:44am M - June 1 - 7:30am A - June 3 - 2:04pm M - June 3 - 8:49pm A - June 4 - 9:26am M - June 4 - 10:54pm A - June 5 - 12:15pm
Do you want me to continue? We have 18 posts total.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 12:59:33 GMT -5
#Mod: Max has received a warning for breaking Rule #26.
#Mod: Lynching seniority also applies to non-voting situations based on prior votes; a lynch will still occur even if all players are non-voting.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jun 12, 2013 14:23:03 GMT -5
Oops. I forgot. I knew about the print screen and actual quoting but didn't realize the rule also included times as well. Sorry xivii :(
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 14:49:46 GMT -5
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jun 12, 2013 16:05:51 GMT -5
Here's what I said on him the other day: Max/Az I'm town. But there's nothing I can say or do to convince anyone of that so I won't dwell on that. My partner, Az, I only momentarily suspected back during my theory regarding the QTs that may or may not have gone anywhere. I should check back and see how the numbers were for the teams and see if there were, in fact, any patterns based on what we know about the lynched teams so far. But that's neither here nor there for the purposes of this post. Anyway, my rating of Az (where A+ is I'm 100% sure he's town, F is 100% sure he's scum): AZ: B- So my suspicions were more leaning against him being scum. I've never had a reason to suspect him in or out of the game. I feel like if he were scum, he would have let up at some point something that someone would have picked up on. I know a few people have mentioned him as a possible target at times but never enough to accumulate any votes on him. Do we remember any of the reasons people suspected him? Either way, nothing about him has stood out to me as being negative. There's also my list I made: So as of now, I'm not completely sure about anyone being scum nor am I completely sure about anyone being town. I'm on the fence with pretty much everyone right now. I would say if I could order everyone from most to least likely to be scum, it would go: 1. Jason 2. Juan 3. Slizzard 4. Az 5. Kunt So it ended up being slizzard, not Juan. Which I'm sure we could have guessed one way or another since we had little to go on. I'm going to go back and read through Slizzie's posts and see if anything comes up. In the meantime, I'm going to place a vote on the person who was at the top of my list: vote: Jason
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