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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jun 12, 2013 16:26:40 GMT -5
These are the only posts Slizzard made in the game that I feel had any worth to them. He also didn't place a single vote the entire game. As for suspicions? I haven't been putting enough mind into that as most of my thinking thus far was about lovers not suspicions, oop. From my readings just now, I'll put forward a couple, which range from quite poor to Avril: β’ josh, for making many posts with little content and throwing his vote around onto many different people. I imagine it's probably just Codex-D1-style play, but I feel he seems a little too non-commital. β’ Az, for that random RVS vote when it was pretty clear we were past RVS. Probably just a flop on his part but maybe a poor attempt at sidetracking discussion?? idk. β’ Devin for basically the same as what I said for josh (but to a lesser extent). I'll refrain from voting at the moment because I'm not anywhere near confident on any of those three, and need to do a bit more analysis. Oh also surprisingly this is also like the first time I haven't been suspicious of Drag. Not sure what to think. A few thoughts from the past couple of pages: If I was here at the time I would have voted for Codex over Nick, admittedly. It's a shame Codex turned out to be town and we lost two, but honestly I'm so used to losing town on Day 1 like every single time that it doesn't faze me as much as it should. Now Josh on the other hand, I'm just confused at his play (like a few others seem to be). I know I mentioned him a few irl days ago, and since then he still seems to be the same way and, unless I've missed something, he seems to be dodging everyone's questions... I don't get it? I don't necessarily think he's scum but I don't see the benefit in that kind of play for either side. I wouldn't want to vote for him because I feel that Kunt is most likely town, and quite a valuable player though, so I guess I'm just hoping josh is a bad townie. He mentioned Josh/Jason, Az and Devin as being on his list. Two of them are still in the game. Now, it has become norm for scum to mention their partner(s) in a suspicion list to throw people off so my thoughts, obviously, are that Az or Jason is the other scum. He did seem particularly suspicious of Josh/Jason, having mentioned him again in the second post yet he never committed to a vote. Is that odd? All he had to do was throw down a vote.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 18:17:35 GMT -5
Vote: Jason
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 18:20:07 GMT -5
Well, no, Unvote: JasonJCMF3 what is your defense? Do you still find Max suspicious? What about Az? Me?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 18:20:27 GMT -5
We have about 4.5 hours until deadline.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jun 12, 2013 21:47:16 GMT -5
Maybe no defence?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 22:33:03 GMT -5
Well, good news is if you or Az are the other scum, then you've basically won since no matter who I place my vote on, your seniority vote on Jason means he'll be lynched.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 22:36:24 GMT -5
Vote: Kunt
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 12, 2013 22:50:18 GMT -5
Well either way it's all over... I kinda think Jason's lack of response (or even being here) is because he knows we're onto him and he's toast so... Vote: Jason
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 12, 2013 23:03:54 GMT -5
Urgh I hope Xiivi's writing up the end result post now, the wait is killing me.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 23:04:23 GMT -5
HAHA I WAS SCUM jk no I really wasn't actually. If you're scum, just let us know so we can get this over with.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 23:05:12 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 23:06:21 GMT -5
I effing knew it.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 12, 2013 23:09:30 GMT -5
I don't know how you didn't get me sooner. 'Cause seriously Slizzard was so SHIT as a partner and I didn't even play well LMFAO excuse me I'm going to go read the green room and cringe at everyone berating me~
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 23:15:29 GMT -5
I have this inherently difficult time differentiating between what is a gut feeling and what is actually fact, which was just so obvious this game. Awful.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 12, 2013 23:20:36 GMT -5
Oh so the green room wasn't all that bad toward me LOL! I can confirm though that when I was going on about issues with the QT's that was legit. IDK what was happening 'cause I talked to Xiivi about it, and it was working for him and not for me which left me going WTF.
Kunt, you nearly had me. I started being more active and invested especially around the time Slizzard died since at that point I had to carry it by myself. IDK how Max bought my act when even I felt it was falling apart. All it would have taken was for the two of you to put your votes on me and Jason wouldn't have mattered. Or, if you'd kept your vote on Max and Jason also voted Max, I'd have gone 'hell with it', lynched Max and taken the loss 'cause I don't think I really earned the win.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 23:43:36 GMT -5
My biggest problem was deciding between you and Jason. I should have kept my vote on Max, because I was hoping you'd panic and it would draw you out, but I dunno. It would have helped had I not checked out for a few days and just kind of hopped in.
Town was horrible this game though, I'd actually say much worse than scum. Max played a good game though.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 12, 2013 23:48:35 GMT -5
Slizzard let himself get prodkilled. I don't know how you could say Town played worse than Mafia, especially since I had to carry our side all by myself while leaving too many hints.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2013 1:20:23 GMT -5
So Slizzard's modkill wasn't intentional? I honestly didn't know wth was going on there. I don't think any of town played that well b/c it was so painfully obvious no one was going back to read anything. I'm not sure Jason had time to, and Kunt had mentally checked out sometime during day 2. Aside from the post about the QT (#deadhorse) I recall Az being the first person to cast doubt on the Juan suspicions, and he reiterated that point multiple times. Josh didn't defend Juan, I think he was one of the people suspicious of him. Jason entered the game too late to really weigh in, I think. Slizzard didn't do shit, so there was no way to connect him to anyone, but the reactions to Juan were enough that they should have stuck out once the two were dead. Before Slizz was modkilled, Kunt was willing to vote for himself b/c he thought Jason was scum, while Jason mentioned Kunt as suspect - during freaking MYLO. No scum player in this setup would potentially sacrifice themselves or draw attention to their partners by doing either of those things when they're one mislynch away from winning the game. Max actually had a theory that scum would have either the fewest or highest posts in their lover QTs. He was COMPLETELY RIGHT, ditched the idea when he saw that Codex and Drag were in the middle, and then when proven wrong about either of them being scum didn't revisit this theory at all. It was frustrating to see him make the same mistakes I did in platinum mafia, being somewhere near the right path but not retracing his steps every so often to see if there were any old thoughts that needed to be followed again. At one point it felt like Az was the only one even playing. I don't think he was good or bad. He played as well as town required him to play. And this is nitpicky, but I was really not happy with how everyone tried examining the QT behavior before you even had a chance to really use the QTs...you basically shut the whole purpose of the setup down before you gave it a chance to mean something, and since the townies didn't see much use for them it allowed scum to get away with the fact that they were completely neglecting them. I swear if I play or watch ONE MORE GAME where someone accuses another player of being suspect just b/c he's "acting weird" (ie not behaving like he did in a game before) I am going to troll that person with the worst member title I can possibly think of. If you couldn't tell I found this game extremely annoying to watch I don't know if it was quite as bad as SPED but it's up there.
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Post by JCMF3 on Jun 13, 2013 4:51:17 GMT -5
Well that was exciting, wasn't it?
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jun 13, 2013 5:31:09 GMT -5
I did go back yesterday and notice the numbers of the QTs again and saw that Az and mine, and Slizzard and Juan had the lowest counts. I thought about it but then thought nah, as a theory, it wouldn't have enough ground to hold. Plus, josh had acted so weird and Jason seemed off with his game play. I think I could have been convinced about Az had there been something solid but then I suppose with Slizzard's lack of play, there wasn't much to go on.
I think this was a good game but I'm wrong so often...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2013 10:08:44 GMT -5
I KNEW YOU COULD DO IT, AZ!!!
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jun 13, 2013 16:31:19 GMT -5
Haha! I'm reading the Heartless QT and Az thought we were going to be the first to go, because of me. Thanks for the confidence, Az. Bad enough you cheated on me with the Slizz. :(
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2013 10:36:39 GMT -5
My biggest problem was deciding between you and Jason. I should have kept my vote on Max, because I was hoping you'd panic and it would draw you out, but I dunno. It would have helped had I not checked out for a few days and just kind of hopped in. Town was horrible this game though, I'd actually say much worse than scum. Max played a good game though. yes I agree you guys were horrible half the scum literally commited suicide yet you guys still failed damnit I think Slizz and Az just broke the win tie and are ahead of me/josh now :'. or maybe the tie was broken 3 games ago idk
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Post by josh on Jun 14, 2013 11:00:59 GMT -5
My biggest problem was deciding between you and Jason. I should have kept my vote on Max, because I was hoping you'd panic and it would draw you out, but I dunno. It would have helped had I not checked out for a few days and just kind of hopped in. Town was horrible this game though, I'd actually say much worse than scum. Max played a good game though. yes I agree you guys were horrible half the scum literally commited suicide yet you guys still failed damnit I think Slizz and Az just broke the win tie and are ahead of me/josh now :'. or maybe the tie was broken 3 games ago idk i won bastard i didn't lose this one because i asked for replacement, it's as if i didnt play
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Post by Lozzy on Jun 14, 2013 11:23:16 GMT -5
Codex I didn't win; I was modkilled
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2013 11:41:35 GMT -5
yes I agree you guys were horrible half the scum literally commited suicide yet you guys still failed damnit I think Slizz and Az just broke the win tie and are ahead of me/josh now :'. or maybe the tie was broken 3 games ago idk i won bastard i didn't lose this one because i asked for replacement, it's as if i didnt playlol are we sure that's how that works? b/c i sure as hell claim werewolves' SPED win
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Post by josh on Jun 14, 2013 11:42:22 GMT -5
i won bastard i didn't lose this one because i asked for replacement, it's as if i didnt playlol are we sure that's how that works? b/c i sure as hell claim werewolves' SPED win yes
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2013 11:46:36 GMT -5
If you replace out of a game you are abandoning your win condition alongside your role and another player gains your win condition as well as your role. Also Slizzard I did not apply Rule #28 to you (note it says the moderator's discretion) as I considered it more of irresponsibility on your part (signing up for a game you had no time for) as opposed to malicious intent.
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Post by josh on Jun 14, 2013 11:50:31 GMT -5
If you replace out of a game you are abandoning your win condition alongside your role and another player gains your win condition as well as your role. So I was right? Also Slizzard I did not apply Rule #28 to you (note it says the moderator's discretion) as I considered it more of irresponsibility on your part (signing up for a game you had no time for) as opposed to malicious intent. RUDEVI So does that mean Devin's win condition (back when he was cat) didn't change when he got modkilled? He had no malicious intent! It was just irresponsibility.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2013 11:53:19 GMT -5
That's right; it didn't. There would have been an explicit note alongside his death if it was~
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