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Post by matty005 on Jun 21, 2014 9:03:27 GMT -5
"I Believe" is crap. George hasn't released a decent album since "Twang". His past two "Here for a Good Time" and "Love Is Everything" are pure radio friendly generic crap. Listen to "Twang" and then those 2 and compare them and they sound like different singers. @brian, I want to say if you don't anything nice to say then you probably shouldn't say it!!! How old are you? That's right, you sound like the age where you like this REAL CRAP out there that is NOT REMOTELY Country but sorry to say but "I Believe" is NOT CRAP!!! YES, it is FRIGGIN' George Strait, clean your ears out!!! George does not use autotune unlike Tim McGraw who recently did it. Your posts are not rubbing me the right way and wanted you to know it!!! You are pushing my buttons with your negative posts. Have something to say which is positive then say it, but if it is something that is negative, at least say it in a respectable way!!!!! First I will say I completely disagree with Brian on his take on "I Got A Car" (though I do agree with him on "I Believe." That is far and away my least favorite George single ever). With that said, if Pulse allows members on a constant basis to say similar things about Florida Georgia Line, Luke, Blake, and Lee Brice then they have to allow it for even the legends like George.
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Post by rbundy1987 on Jun 21, 2014 9:06:44 GMT -5
The song "I Believe" is not crap, sure it is not a great song for radio but it is a great song with it's message behind it. Nothing groundbreaking about it but just a message that touches hearts.
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Post by matty005 on Jun 21, 2014 9:16:29 GMT -5
The song "I Believe" is not crap, sure it is not a great song for radio but it is a great song with it's message behind it. Nothing groundbreaking about it but just a message that touches hearts. Not everyone shares your views and beliefs, therefore, a song like, "I Believe" does not always touch others the way it may touch you.
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Post by rbundy1987 on Jun 21, 2014 9:20:25 GMT -5
The song "I Believe" is not crap, sure it is not a great song for radio but it is a great song with it's message behind it. Nothing groundbreaking about it but just a message that touches hearts. Not everyone shares your views and beliefs, therefore, a song like, "I Believe" does not always touch others the way it may touch you. That is true but we all ought to get along with one another and say things in a more respectable way instead of bashing artists and their music. Attack the song and don't say oh it don't sound like George like Brian said a few posts back. I do agree with you matty005 on that we have different beiiefs and views in life but all need to watch what we say as it can rub someone in the wrong way and that is what Brian did a few posts back. Okay I am done here, and moving on so I will :) as of right now.
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Post by Zazie on Jun 21, 2014 14:53:45 GMT -5
I don't think it's necessary to be positive -- the board rules don't require it. This isn't a fan board. (Trolling is forbidden, but I'll leave it to JHomes to define that term. I'd call some of the posts in this thread troll-worthy, but my opinion is irrelevant.) What I wish for is that people would give reasons for their statements, because just expressing an opinion is not illuminating or instructive. It's just blah, and that holds for positive statements as well as negative. Without explanation, it's not useful to express an opinion.
Not going to happen, I do realize that. A few posters back up their opinions, the rest don't.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2014 20:16:17 GMT -5
I don't think it's necessary to be positive -- the board rules don't require it. This isn't a fan board. (Trolling is forbidden, but I'll leave it to JHomes to define that term. I'd call some of the posts in this thread troll-worthy, but my opinion is irrelevant.) What I wish for is that people would give reasons for their statements, because just expressing an opinion is not illuminating or instructive. It's just blah, and that holds for positive statements as well as negative. Without explanation, it's not useful to express an opinion. Not going to happen, I do realize that. A few posters back up their opinions, the rest don't. Precisely. Pulse would not be a good place if we required people to only post about songs that they enjoy. However, whether you like a song or not, please explain your reasons. If someone says "this song sucks" or "this is the best song ever", who cares? Opinions are basically worthless and uninteresting if you don't have statements to back up why you like or dislike a song. I'd like to think that the vast majority of people who participate in this forum's discussions are here for just that--discussion. No one is here to read a bunch of posts that essentially say nothing. You like a song...ok, why? You heard this song on your radio today...um, good for you? This song isn't very good...why don't you like it? State your opinions, positive and/or negative, but please back them up with explanations. Great post, Zazie.
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Post by sbp17 on Jun 21, 2014 20:41:06 GMT -5
I agree that I enjoy good discussion whether the opinions of the songs are positive or negative. Even with songs I really enjoy, it's good to hear opposing perspective on those songs. (As an aside since FGL was referenced, I do think there's a distinct difference between constructive criticism of songs and some of the negative comments about FGL (who I do not like myself) that would be considered trolling if said about board favorites.)
I realize he's not getting younger and thus his airplay will continue to dwindle but when was his last Billboard airplay number one?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2014 21:47:33 GMT -5
I realize he's not getting younger and thus his airplay will continue to dwindle but when was his last Billboard airplay number one? It's more than a 5-year drought now; "River Of Love" was his last Billboard #1 in April of 2009. He's had quite a few close calls since then, with several of them going to #1 on Mediabase but just not BB. "Living For The Night" peaked at #2, "I Gotta Get To You" peaked at #3, "Here For A Good Time" peaked at #2, "Love's Gonna Make It Alright" at #3, and "Give It All We Got Tonight" at #2. I think all of those songs (except "I Gotta Get To You") managed to sneak in at least a day or two at the top to make them official Mediabase #1's. But the last 3 of those needed pretty big pushes, especially GIAWGT.
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 21, 2014 22:28:32 GMT -5
I realize he's not getting younger and thus his airplay will continue to dwindle but when was his last Billboard airplay number one? It's more than a 5-year drought now; "River Of Love" was his last Billboard #1 in April of 2009. He's had quite a few close calls since then, with several of them going to #1 on Mediabase but just not BB. "Living For The Night" peaked at #2, "I Gotta Get To You" peaked at #3, "Here For A Good Time" peaked at #2, "Love's Gonna Make It Alright" at #3, and "Give It All We Got Tonight" at #2. I think all of those songs (except "I Gotta Get To You") managed to sneak in at least a day or two at the top to make them official Mediabase #1's. But the last 3 of those needed pretty big pushes, especially GIAWGT. "Living For The Night" never got to #1 on MB. It may have gotten a day in perhaps but certainly did not end the week at #1 and therefore was never declared a #1 single (you can thank Jason's "Big Green Tractor" for that one ).
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Post by Zazie on Jun 22, 2014 9:19:34 GMT -5
IGAC only lost 125k overnight, a smaller loss than yesterday's 400. With one day left in the week, the song might hold its bullet on BB and, if not, should earn a grace week on BB. One more chance for a revival. (Looks like it will keep its MB bullet and thereby hang around for another couple of chart appearances.) Of course it's hard to know how IGAC's performance will translate from MB to BB, but I think there's a final chance for a push.
I don't especially want a push, though. One more chart week and then let nature take its course, without benefit of some crazy label-fueled rally. A rally of its own, with a small gain every day for a week -- that'd be fine.
The run wound up much better than it was heading for, and I'm sure that, if IGAC is ready to die, George will be back with a lead single sometime later this year or at worst early next year.
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Post by Zazie on Jun 25, 2014 15:59:06 GMT -5
Sorry for two posts in a row, but I wanted to see if anybody else had a reaction to today's very small loss for IGAC. Less than a 50k overnight loss, not even a 10 spin loss on MB. Better than yesterday's totals, and (if it matters) George should stay in the BB top 20 next week (unless he does go recurrent).
He'd need to cross back into positive numbers starting tomorrow or the day after. Anyone thing that can happen? I suspect not, but I'll give George a 15% shot at staying on the BB chart next week. We already know it will stay on the MB/Aircheck chart next week.
ETA that the song gained 500k on Saturday morning's MB update. Now the song's up 17 spins since Monday and down abaout 350k in audience -- it needs one more good day to finish in positive audience numbers for the week, and positive in spins is already likely to happen. The song isn't finished! it's still getting support!
Hard to believe. I think a few of us have just willed this into happening. Can't wait until Monday's BB chart arrives.
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Post by drummerman2009 on Jun 28, 2014 21:31:36 GMT -5
I think that George might have a new peak at #17 for this coming week if "I Got A Car" stays with the slow gains. With Craig Campbell probably leaving and Brett Eldredge for sure leaving next week, I'm going for #15 in the next couple of weeks if Kenny and Miranda and Carrie doesn't pass George first. Tim and Faith's "Meanwhile Back At Mama's" has passed George so I think #17 might be right.
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Post by dajross6 on Jun 28, 2014 22:22:07 GMT -5
He has to stay on the chart for that to happen though. On Mediabase he's almost a million lower than his peak, and Billboard he's no bet to stay on due to recurrent rules. I'm guessing MCA is letting this go, but stations are playing it because it's a genuinely good song and isn't played much on a lot of stations. I was hoping for a top ten peak, but that will not happen without the label pushing it. I personally don't want this ride to end yet, but he'll need a good Sunday and Monday just to stay on Billboard for another week (although he could get a grace week if the loss is super small). The MB recurrent rules are unknown to me so I can't speak on that.
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 28, 2014 22:27:41 GMT -5
^ If George can't regain his bullet, he'll go recurrent after next week. Three bulletless weeks in a row and a song is sent recurrent on MB regardless of how many weeks a song has been charting (20 or more on Billboard and a song is immediately sent recurrent). George's peak will probably be #18 as Lady A leapfrogged him on today's MB update.
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Post by Zazie on Jun 29, 2014 8:50:08 GMT -5
IGAC has a 44-spin gain from last Sunday to this Sunday, assuring him of yet another week with a bullet on MB. But I've lost my numbers from yesterday so I don't know what his overnight audience gain or loss was, an essential number for projecting (a.k.a. guessing) his Billboard number for the week. If he's up 200k or more on MB overnight, I think he's safely on the BB chart, and maybe he's safe even if he does less well. (But he has tomorrow to survive as well, so I'm hoping he does post a gain today. A small loss is probably OK but maybe not.)
The Billboard rules for awarding bullets say that a song losing audience, but gaining in spins, will receive a bullet as long as its audience loss is less than 3% of its total audience. Last week's 19 mill audience for George means that as long as his total loss in audience this week is 570k or less, he will get to keep his bullet as long as he's up any amount in spins. And that's not even getting into the "grace week" possibilities for staying on.
Complicated enough?
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And now somebody tells me that today IGAC gains 1k and 14 spins on MB. So the song is down on MB this week, from Monday's total of 24.716 to today's total of 24.354. If those numbers are right (thanks, Razorback) then the total loss for the week is 362k on MB. Hard to say exactly what that is on BB, but call it a loss of 300k. And he can afford a loss of 570k assuming he's a net positive in spins for the BB week that ends tomorrow.
That's pretty close but I'll be fairly confident if tomorrow's MB number isn't worse than a loss of 300k.
He was at #20 on last week's BB -- assuming he gets passed by Brantley Gilbert and his helpers, that drops him to 21 -- but Eldredge leaves, Miranda Lambert leaves, and it's not impossible that a third song (Campbell? Bryan?) leaves as well. So it looks as if IGAC will finish at #19, maybe #18, on Billboard.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jun 29, 2014 12:50:29 GMT -5
I would love to see this keep going and peak much higher than it has, because it's a fabulous song, but I'm actually really tired of this so I won't be upset if this car runs out of gas. I've been hearing this on the radio enough that I could've believed this was currently sitting in the Top 10. It's slow climb has been unfortunate considering the stations I listen to have been on board for awhile now to the point where this is on the verge of being overplayed from my standpoint. It's too bad others couldn't have followed suit so it could've moved up faster and peaked higher, but I am honestly ready for something new.
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Post by dajross6 on Jun 30, 2014 9:17:23 GMT -5
Looks like George is up about 200k overnight and keeps his bullet for the week (on the published chart it looks like). Billboard is going to be very close indeed tonight.
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Post by Zazie on Jun 30, 2014 11:51:00 GMT -5
You never know when you are translating from MB to BB, but I'll give George a 60% chance to keep his bullet by gaining in spins and 20% to lose his bullet but stay on the chart anyway via a grace week. That leaves a 20% chance IGAC leaves tonight, but I'm fairly confident it stays. I really want the top 15 finish but he still has plenty of work to do to assure that result.
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Post by dajross6 on Jun 30, 2014 21:39:11 GMT -5
George regains his bullet and goes up to #19
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Post by Zazie on Jun 30, 2014 22:05:33 GMT -5
George regains his bullet and goes up to #19 He never lost his bullet, so he didn't regain it. He kept it. He could afford to lose 570k in audience as long as he gained in spins, and he lost 560k. That's what I call cutting it close. Of course it will be revealed to us pretty soon whether he's finished, or whether he's going to start gaining again on a regular basis. I can't take the suspense.
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 30, 2014 22:36:15 GMT -5
George regains his bullet and goes up to #19 He never lost his bullet, so he didn't regain it. He kept it. He could afford to lose 570k in audience as long as he gained in spins, and he lost 560k. That's what I call cutting it close. Of course it will be revealed to us pretty soon whether he's finished, or whether he's going to start gaining again on a regular basis. I can't take the suspense.Oh come on, we made it through 17 pages Zazie. I'll take 7 more pages of suspense if it means a top 10 single. Unfortunately that would seem pretty unlikely at this point, but at least George rallied to keep his bullet and live to fight another week.
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Post by tim on Jun 30, 2014 23:14:51 GMT -5
^I just don't know what to make of this chart run...it has been all over the map. Mostly down's, but the up's have been great. I thought for sure this song was done after the final performance in Dallas. I could even tell that this song was getting played less here locally in Austin (where it had once been getting played so much you'd think it was already in the top 10). But within' the past week or so I've noticed an uptick in the presence of this song back on radio here and it slightly seems to reflect the overall spin of this song recently. This has to be nearing its end (we are getting close to 40 weeks), but who knows right?
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Post by dajross6 on Jul 1, 2014 7:13:05 GMT -5
Imagine if this took off once again and did climb the chart for another 3-4 months. George would probably have his first ever Billboard #1 of the year (just guessing that charting the entire year would help, right?).
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Post by Zazie on Jul 2, 2014 19:26:38 GMT -5
Down 200k this morning. I think we'll know by Thursday if he's still got a top 10 shot -- I'd love for this to reach top 10 status although going all the way to #1 hasn't crossed my mind in quite a few months.
It's possible that 4 songs will go recurrent from the top 10 on next week's Billboard chart -- 3 for sure. So if George can stay on, even if he loses his bullet but gets a grace week, he should hit a new high peak position. But something unusual has to happen for this one to get even as far as the top 15, let alone top 10, let alone higher.
However, "while there's life there's hope" is going to remain my motto for this song's chart run. It's still possible for it to climb. I can't say it's likely but I can say it's still possible.
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Post by dragontattoo on Jul 7, 2014 15:28:55 GMT -5
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Post by drummerman2009 on Jul 7, 2014 21:47:59 GMT -5
"I Got A Car" does get a new peak on the Country Airplay chart at #17. Question is is does it have the momentum to make it into the Top 15 or will Miranda and Carrie, Cole Swindell and The Swon Brothers pass up George in the upcoming weeks? I don't think it will make Top 10 now but I would like to see at least a #15 peak before everyone I mentioned passes George.
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Post by McCreerian on Jul 7, 2014 21:52:35 GMT -5
I just hope George's car doesn't run out of gas or get a flat tire.
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Post by Zazie on Jul 8, 2014 18:52:29 GMT -5
Some problems with the brakes, a crack in the rear-view mirror, otherwise it passes inspection.
George's gain of 182k on this morning's MB update is just about the pace this song needs if it wants to improve its chances at making the top 15. (Top 10 would be even nicer, but first things first.) I had been hoping for 250k every day but it can get by with less. It's handy that the Lambert Underwood duet had a slow day, but I don't know how many of those we can count on.
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Post by dajross6 on Jul 8, 2014 18:59:25 GMT -5
How did the holiday weekend factor into last week? I thought the losses would be more across the board, which would lead to a slightly larger week now. I guess those gains would be felt Saturday-Monday morning, right?
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Post by jlatn5b on Jul 13, 2014 13:43:44 GMT -5
Seeing this languishing in the 18-20 range for the past several weeks is really frustrating. I wish it would either pick up steam or drop like a rock already. Still holding out hope for the former though!
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