bamafan2102
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Post by bamafan2102 on Aug 13, 2005 3:13:34 GMT -5
Looking at Mediabase tonight Faith has lost her bullet (although a small loss). That leaves the top three songs bullet less including the fading Toby Keith song. Next in line is Brooks and Dunn but Brad has a larger bullet (around 100 spins more per day for most of the week). Tim is next with about the same increase as Brad than there is Sara who has a larger spin increase than all of the above but is 400 spins behind Tim. I expect Help Somebody will begin to fall sometime this week (just my opinion). Who ever makes the move better do it quickly with Gretchen racing up the charts with her new (terrible) song.
I am hoping for Brad to spend at least three weeks at the top. With his album coming out this week it should really help to push the song over B&D.
Or will Faith rebound and take the top spot. She might could even back in while losing spins couldn't she? If Toby's song losses enough spins it could happen.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2005 4:05:29 GMT -5
I think you're pretty much right on with your predictions bamafan. Imo, I think Faith will reach # 1. That song was destined for # 1 even before it was released. With the way that Toby is dropping, it is all but assured that Faith will reach # 1. Possibly, as you said, Faith may end up at the top with minus (-) spins. I think Brad will eventually get to # 1, but Faith's drop is so small and he is still about 900 spins behind Faith. So he'll have to wait behind Faith for a week or two, unless she starts falling fast. After Faith, I think Brad will have a small window to make it to # 1. He will have to do it in a hurry though because country radio is jumping all over the Gretchen song like it's the song of the century. As of the latest Mediabase update, Brad is already ahead of Brooks & Dunn so I think Brad may make it. After Brad, obviously the next # 1 will be Gretchen's (yes...terrible) song. Gretchen reaching # 1 seems inevitable. After Gretchen, it's just a battle for who can hold on the longest. Obviously, the one with the best longevity will get the top spot. I see Tim, hopefully, peaking barely inside the Top 5, if that. With the soon-to-be vacant space in the top 5, I see Brooks & Dunn peaking at # 2 or # 3. (As I said, Brad already passed them and Gretchen is coming fast.) The same goes for Sara Evans. I see her having to wait quite a while behind Faith, Brad, and Gretchen. I see Sara peaking at # 2 or # 3. Who knows though? With the way country charts are these days, who knows who will get the next sudden burst of play?
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Post by Marv on Aug 13, 2005 22:23:42 GMT -5
If it weren't for 'I Play Chicken With The Train'. 'All Jacked' Up would bea mortal lock for the worst single of the year, with the opportunity to go down as being among the VERY worst #1 singles of all time, unless somebody can overtake her, or the callout starts going south on this song before it hits the top 5.
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bamafan2102
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Post by bamafan2102 on Aug 14, 2005 1:43:04 GMT -5
At least "Chicken" had a bit of novelty to it. You know...Black guy doing country rap...ugggh nevermind. ;)
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Post by kyhomeg on Aug 14, 2005 5:35:39 GMT -5
Well Faith is now on the plus side and gaining again, Brooks and Dunn are gaining more than Brad and have jumped him. Tim is picking up again. Don't know but Faith I think will be the next #1.
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Post by Jonsolo on Aug 14, 2005 6:23:16 GMT -5
Too late, kyhomeg. I am not so sure Faith will hit #1, I hope she does but her gains are down to under 100 and if Toby hangs on 1-2 more weeks ,I don't think Faith will. She may have to settle for a #2 peak, but I hope not. You recently expressed some doubt with regards to Faith's #1 chances. This is simply unacceptable. How will you be able to look the other Faith fans in the eye? You might have to turn in your Faith Fan Club membership card. I and a few other Faith non-fans have always considered MS Girl a certainty for #1.
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Post by kyhomeg on Aug 14, 2005 8:17:23 GMT -5
First of all, I have never been a Faith Hill fanclub member. I have been a fan of Faith since 1993, before Tim actually but she has never been my favorite female. I thought there was some great songs on CRY and her voice sounded great on them but it was not an album that was a favorite and it was not country. I played it about 5 months and haven't played it since. I prefer her two first albums with the FAITH album being my favorite and other than a couple songs, wasn't a big fan of the Breathe album. The title track for that album I loved though.
I do love the new album though, she sounds great and I connect with the songs.
But as being a die hard fan of Faith, no and like I said she is far from my favorite. I just get tired of her getting the bashing and attacks for doing something many artist do. She seems to generate attacks on her and what people perceive instead of just focusing on the music. Heck Martina's last album was played more on AC then country but that is ok since it is her. Same with males that get played on AC. Heck Keith Urban remixed one of his songs and actually rerecorded the vocals but there is no backlash with that. It was released to Mainstream and Top 40. He is being advertise overseas as a rock act with not a hint of him being country, they mention nothing about his country roots in their promotion overseas. It only seems to be Faith that generates this bashing and negativity. I also don't like how Shania fans have to always bring her up into the conservation, they do it everywhere, on CMT boards, Country Weekly boards.
I have met Faith a couple times at Tim's Annual Swampstock and her Dad. She is one of the most genuine and sweetest people you would want to meet. So I will defend her. As for my favorite female, no.
Favorites Loretta Lynn is #1 and always will be have seen her over 25 times through the years.
Patty Loveless I love her music and would pick her music and seeing her in concert over any female except Loretta.
Rhonda Vincent
Alison Krauss
Reba older stuff mostly
Jo Dee Messina
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Post by Jonsolo on Aug 14, 2005 9:36:35 GMT -5
I think it's funny how it only takes a few, simple, droll comments to cause kyhomeg to waste five minutes composing a long, defensive response. Perhaps I should from now on employ the use of those " ;) " characters.
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Post by dcowboy77 on Aug 14, 2005 12:17:43 GMT -5
I think it's funny how it only takes a few, simple, droll comments to cause kyhomeg to waste five minutes composing a long, defensive response. Perhaps I should from now on employ the use of those " ;) " characters. i luv kyhomegs comments...makes for great reading as opposed to some other comments that get posted here at times.
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bamafan2102
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Post by bamafan2102 on Aug 14, 2005 12:31:49 GMT -5
All I want is a decent arguement that dosen't have to involve getting all mad about someone else's posting habits. This was a simple question that should make people look into the charts a little bit and make a simple prediction. But nothing is simple on these boards anymore with Steelo and Kyhomeg lurking around. If it's not something good about Sugarland or Faith then they will make it that way. Oh I almost forgot (how could I?) about the Shania love fest people too. Sample post: Shania's new single dosen't look to be doing well. Reply: How could you say that? Shania is country all the way and is the greatest singer of all time. If Shania was a man I would have her children. Just because the single peaked at #40 dosen't mean it was a flop. Shania dosen't need airplay to be sucessful. She gets by on talent alone. Shania, Shania, Shania and oh yeah, Shania. That gets really old. I really liked this board when I first joined after the on R&R board shut down, but it seems that the board should be renamed to the Shania and Faith lovefest board. Go ahead Steelo and tell me that if I don't like it I don't have to read it. You have used that argument enough times already. I read this board to learn about music that I dearly love AND hate. New releases, new albums, new artist, I have learned a HUGE amount of information from this board but it seems that there is nothing to learn here anymore. Maybe I should take a break from the country forum for a while and see if things change.
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Post by drock89 on Aug 14, 2005 12:38:45 GMT -5
They won't until you weed out the problems, and because the problems don't personally attack, they aren't breaking any rules, and therefore cannot be banned. Simple as such. I have spoken to an administrator once about this before. It's best to just ignore it. I try my best. I know how most posters here stand on certain issues, so I know what to expect.
Here's my answer: To those who reply to attacks on your artist, either prove the attack wrong with a simple fact or let the posters words speak for themselves. Normally, you don't have to attack back to make the opposition look stupid. When you do respond, now you look dumb too. It's a round-a-bout game, who will let the circle be broken? (pun intended)
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Post by musicfan_84 on Aug 14, 2005 12:39:27 GMT -5
All I want is a decent arguement that dosen't have to involve getting all mad about someone else's posting habits. This was a simple question that should make people look into the charts a little bit and make a simple prediction. But nothing is simple on these boards anymore with Steelo and Kyhomeg lurking around. If it's not something good about Sugarland or Faith then they will make it that way. Oh I almost forgot (how could I?) about the Shania love fest people too. Sample post: Shania's new single dosen't look to be doing well. Reply: How could you say that? Shania is country all the way and is the greatest singer of all time. If Shania was a man I would have her children. Just because the single peaked at #40 dosen't mean it was a flop. Shania dosen't need airplay to be sucessful. She gets by on talent alone. Shania, Shania, Shania and oh yeah, Shania. That gets really old. I really liked this board when I first joined after the on R&R board shut down, but it seems that the board should be renamed to the Shania and Faith lovefest board. Go ahead Steelo and tell me that if I don't like it I don't have to read it. You have used that argument enough times already. I read this board to learn about music that I dearly love AND hate. New releases, new albums, new artist, I have learned a HUGE amount of information from this board but it seems that there is nothing to learn here anymore. Maybe I should take a break from the country forum for a while and see if things change. AMEN! Who cares if someone says they don't like a particular artist or a particular song? It's just someone's opinion and it is no one's place to try to change that. Just because your favorite artist isn't someone else's doesn't mean you have to defend them till you die on this board. Bamafan speaks for me as well as many others who are sick and tired of the Faith/Shania bickering. So instead of forcing us to take a break from this board, maybe it's in the best interest of the die hard fans to take a break for a while and realize the stuff you are posting. Don't make us suffer through it anymore.
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Post by reidster on Aug 14, 2005 15:43:51 GMT -5
Shania seems to enter every single thread on in the Coutry sub-forum, somehow. She is amazing, but doesn't always need to be mentioned. Anywho.. "Shoes" by Shania for the next #1 !
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Post by musicbuff78 on Aug 15, 2005 0:38:10 GMT -5
Don't even try to drag MY name into this. By doing so, that's a personal attack.
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Post by gcook on Aug 15, 2005 7:07:26 GMT -5
Back on topic...
all three (Toby, Faith, and Sugarland) all losing more than 100 spins as of this morning's update.
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Post by northerncountry on Aug 15, 2005 8:39:20 GMT -5
Although Toby is a clear #1 on R&R this week, the same can't be said for BB. The gap between Toby and Sugarland last week was a lot smaller on BB - and if you just subtracted the MB losses for both songs against last week's BB totals - Sugarland would actually be ahead of Toby (but only by 34,000).
Usually gains on BB are less than gains on MB, and the same can also be said for losses (at times). So if Toby didn't really lose as much on BB as he did on MB, he should be able to stay at #1 for this week. But I'm hoping that Sugarland managed to sneak in for one week (as I think Faith will be #1 next week).
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Post by WhySoSerious? on Aug 15, 2005 13:00:46 GMT -5
Toby hangs on to #1 for Billboard. All three of the Top 3 are losing audience and spins.
Next week's #1 will be determined by who holds up best. My guess is Sugarland will sneak into #1.
Their ranks in audience:
1. Toby Keith: 36.842 (-3.068) 2. Sugarland: 36.461 (-0.951) 3. Faith Hill: 35.212 (-0.252)
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Post by northerncountry on Aug 15, 2005 13:12:27 GMT -5
TCorey - did any of these songs keep their bullet? I noticed that the numbers were generally down for a lot of songs this week, so I was wondering if BB was going to make some kind of adjustment.
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Post by WhySoSerious? on Aug 15, 2005 14:11:54 GMT -5
TCorey - did any of these songs keep their bullet? I noticed that the numbers were generally down for a lot of songs this week, so I was wondering if BB was going to make some kind of adjustment. All of the Top 3 remain bulletless.
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Post by luvhonkytonk on Aug 15, 2005 17:50:12 GMT -5
I heard on the radio this morning that Faith is #1 this week. It really doesn't matter to me. I'm getting tired of all three.
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Post by bigbluenote on Aug 15, 2005 18:11:45 GMT -5
I heard on the radio this morning that Faith is #1 this week. Probably just a DJ looking at the charts and hoping that it'll happen - Wishful Thinking.
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Post by kyhomeg on Aug 15, 2005 18:46:00 GMT -5
Maybe the DJ was talking about the album. She is #1 there.
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Post by bigbluenote on Aug 15, 2005 18:50:45 GMT -5
Maybe the DJ was talking about the album. She is #1 there. Ah, true. I didn't think about that.
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Post by Zazie on Aug 16, 2005 0:21:34 GMT -5
Toby hangs on to #1 for Billboard. All three of the Top 3 are losing audience and spins. Next week's #1 will be determined by who holds up best. My guess is Sugarland will sneak into #1. Their ranks in audience: 1. Toby Keith: 36.842 (-3.068) 2. Sugarland: 36.461 (-0.951) 3. Faith Hill: 35.212 (-0.252) I'll go with Faith as next week's #1 song. This reminds me of Amazed's long run at #1 accompanied by #2 Lesson in Leavin' -- there was a week in which both songs lost their bullets, but they weren't done. The bullets were regained the next week. This year, the timing is different: TK is done, I suspect Sugarland is done, but Faith still has some room to grow. So I think she'll rebullet and be the clear #1 next week. Or I can just edit this post later to make it look more clairvoyant.
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Post by Marv on Aug 16, 2005 0:31:36 GMT -5
It would be something if next week's #1 hit the top without regaining a bullet because the other two dropped faster.
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Post by northerncountry on Aug 16, 2005 8:30:49 GMT -5
It would be something if next week's #1 hit the top without regaining a bullet because the other two dropped faster. Definite possibility if neither of these 3 bullet next week as the next in line is still more than 5 million behind Faith, and I don't think that could be made up in one week. I do think Toby will fall more quickly than the other 2 next week, so he should have had his last week at #1. I'll give the nod to Faith also, and I think she will recapture her bullet next week and she'll have 1-2 weeks at the top.
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Post by dcowboy77 on Aug 16, 2005 9:54:45 GMT -5
Toby hangs on to #1 for Billboard. All three of the Top 3 are losing audience and spins. Next week's #1 will be determined by who holds up best. My guess is Sugarland will sneak into #1. Their ranks in audience: 1. Toby Keith: 36.842 (-3.068) 2. Sugarland: 36.461 (-0.951) 3. Faith Hill: 35.212 (-0.252) is the billboard singles chart that comes out wednesday (i think) based only off the audience from this radio monitor report ?...or are there others factors in the equation for determining actual chart positions for songs ?
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Post by northerncountry on Aug 16, 2005 10:00:42 GMT -5
"is the billboard singles chart that comes out wednesday (i think) based only off the audience from this radio monitor report ?...or are there others factors in the equation for determining actual chart positions for songs ?"
The BB chart is based solely on the audience numbers and it is taken from the radio monitor report that was used for the post yesterday. The only exception is with BB's new recurrency rule that will pull off a song that is below #15 in audience numbers or spins - so a song with an audience number that ranks above #15 will be pulled off the chart if the spin total for this song is below #15. This happened a few weeks back with "Pickin' Wildflowers".
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Post by WhySoSerious? on Aug 16, 2005 10:23:31 GMT -5
The building chart for the week (only counting yesterday's airplay):
1. Sugarland: 5.740 (-.286) 2. Faith Hill: 5.420 (-.349) 3. Toby Keith: 5.381 (-.929)
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Post by northerncountry on Aug 16, 2005 11:36:07 GMT -5
The building chart for the week (only counting yesterday's airplay): 1. Sugarland: 5.740 (-.286) 2. Faith Hill: 5.420 (-.349) 3. Toby Keith: 5.381 (-.929) Just wondering if you're in the industry and get this information or is there somewhere that you can actually purchase this service (I know the MB numbers are easy to come by, but I've never seen BB daily updates before). I guess I was a day too early in thinking that Sugarland could be #1.
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