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Post by Tylerjamesnerd on Jul 17, 2014 23:49:12 GMT -5
Dear lord the chart run of this song is bugging the crap out of me. Seems as if it is taking forever to crack the top 30. And to top it all off Aldean is getting a clear channel deal, another song to surely cockblock this from reaching t30. I understand your frustration with this taking forever but this song is doing well all things considered.this chart is overcrowded and and a lot of songs will be building slowly on the chart. Cassadee song though is still chugglng along better than others. Cassadee is lucky she isn't failing in the top 50 like her voice friend Danielle .what I'm trying to build my post to is that she is not done and we should just be happy she is where she is on the chart. I see this making top 30 for sure though.
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Post by blueguitar on Jul 18, 2014 0:57:44 GMT -5
I agree with the immediately above comments. I would like to add that I love Cassadee as an artist. However, this song seems a little too high for her voice and is too screechy to go much further. I'm hoping she continues in the country genre hut should try to tone down on the high reaching notes
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Post by kanimal on Jul 18, 2014 8:17:57 GMT -5
I agree with the immediately above comments. I would like to add that I love Cassadee as an artist. However, this song seems a little too high for her voice and is too screechy to go much further. I'm hoping she continues in the country genre hut should try to tone down on the high reaching notes Disagree. The notorious knock on Cassadee is that she has a weak lower register (noticeable in her Hey Monday days, the main source of criticism when she was on The Voice and even a problem on the country album). The high notes are her sweet spot, and I think she does a pretty good job here. There definitely is a polarizing element to her voice, but it's not due to her missing notes or whatever. It's just a product of her style. And it used to be much more extreme - check out "Candles," which was the most recognizable song by Hey Monday. I happen to really like this song, but I can see how it would have limits at radio. The problem is that her voice has a natural cry to it, so she kind of does need to release these emo-ish songs about heartbreak. Due to her style, everything kind of sounds "sad" -- listen to the song "Good Time," which comes off as anything but.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 18, 2014 14:25:45 GMT -5
I agree with the immediately above comments. I would like to add that I love Cassadee as an artist. However, this song seems a little too high for her voice and is too screechy to go much further. I'm hoping she continues in the country genre hut should try to tone down on the high reaching notes Disagree. The notorious knock on Cassadee is that she has a weak lower register (noticeable in her Hey Monday days, the main source of criticism when she was on The Voice and even a problem on the country album). The high notes are her sweet spot, and I think she does a pretty good job here. There definitely is a polarizing element to her voice, but it's not due to her missing notes or whatever. It's just a product of her style. And it used to be much more extreme - check out "Candles," which was the most recognizable song by Hey Monday. I happen to really like this song, but I can see how it would have limits at radio. The problem is that her voice has a natural cry to it, so she kind of does need to release these emo-ish songs about heartbreak. Due to her style, everything kind of sounds "sad" -- listen to the song "Good Time," which comes off as anything but. I agree about her higher voice. I think she has a lot of belting power and I did notice when she performed WATT on the Opry that her lower notes were a little off in parts but she completely drives home those big choruses like in that single and this one. That said, while I recognize the cry in her voice you mention, I don't think that's the problem with "Good Times." The problem with that song is just that it's painfully generic filler on an otherwise very dynamic album. It's the weakest link, and it has more to do with the song than her vocals, imo. She doesn't come off as sad to me on "Everybody Sings" or "This Car," i.e. though I agree she does have a knack for nailing those songs with a moodier vibe.
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Post by GHOST on Jul 18, 2014 16:12:35 GMT -5
Week 17 for this song. During week 17 Wasting All These Tears was top 25. If this is following the same trajectory it will be lucky to make top 20. Was really hoping she could snag another top 10 and break this female radio curse.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Jul 18, 2014 17:38:11 GMT -5
You really can't compare this to the first single though, she had hype from the show back when that came out and it was a lead single. Lead singles always climb faster for non a-listers. She's about where I thought she'd be by now and I wasn't really considering all the huge name singles that'd be out by now; I thought she'd be moving slower than she is if anything. I can see this making the top 20 sometime this fall.
Personally I'm not a fan of hers and while this is my favorite song on the album I wouldn't mind seeing this one falter and go away sooner than I think it will. Her voice is just unpleasant to listen to for me. She's got good songs but I can't get into her voice, maybe on future material she'll work out better performances but for now she does nothing for me. Still I always wish good luck to all artists so hopefully for her this is a hit; I'll just change the station.
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Post by sabre14 on Aug 2, 2014 13:44:03 GMT -5
I think Cassadee's song is running out of steam here. It's nearly got an -100 bullet on MB today and has lost a fairly significant amount of audience as well this week. It's been treading water the past few weeks with minimal gains and is now in it's 20th week on the charts. It's total audience gain over the past four weeks on MB have been just .269, while it's spins gains over the same amount of time have been just a measly +65. It's total points gained on MB over the past four weeks have been just +72.
I think that this is another victim of a ultra competitive chart. It's disappointing seeing this struggle so much the past month, even with the label she's associated with being her biggest ally.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Aug 2, 2014 18:16:08 GMT -5
I really hope this recovers. Someone needs to break the trend of female newcomers being unable to follow-up their first hit with another Top 20.
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Post by bigfan101 on Aug 2, 2014 21:40:41 GMT -5
^its not just female newcomers. It's females in general. I was thinking today what was the last FEMALE artist beside Carrie Miranda and Taylor to have the back to back top 20 singles. I couldn't think of anyone.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Aug 2, 2014 22:38:04 GMT -5
^its not just female newcomers. It's females in general. I was thinking today what was the last FEMALE artist beside Carrie Miranda and Taylor to have the back to back top 20 singles. I couldn't think of anyone. Martina McBride a few years ago, if I'm not mistaken. She had five consecutive Top 20 singles between "Ride" and "I'm Gonna Love You Through It," before ruining it with "Marry Me." And as for your point, I agree, but I was merely pointing out the newcomer situation since it was highlighted in this article.
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Post by bigfan101 on Aug 3, 2014 8:04:29 GMT -5
^its not just female newcomers. It's females in general. I was thinking today what was the last FEMALE artist beside Carrie Miranda and Taylor to have the back to back top 20 singles. I couldn't think of anyone. Martina McBride a few years ago, if I'm not mistaken. She had five consecutive Top 20 singles between "Ride" and "I'm Gonna Love You Through It," before ruining it with "Marry Me." And as for your point, I agree, but I was merely pointing out the newcomer situation since it was highlighted in this article. Agreed! It was a great article, just made me think of the females in general
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Post by sabre14 on Aug 3, 2014 13:47:07 GMT -5
I really hope this recovers Well unfortunately my fear was correct. She's now down nearly a million in audience on MB with a -167 bullet. This will go recurrent after this week (20th chart week) on Billboard and two Sunday's from now on MB. It got to #31 on MB and #32 on Billboard.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 18:18:05 GMT -5
This is definitely done--it certainly looks like BMLG pulled support for this song this week. It's a real shame too; while I felt that the chorus was over-produced, and also the fact that Cassadee isn't my favorite vocalist (although I do still enjoy her voice quite a bit), I really enjoyed this one. It's very well-written and I liked the production throughout the verses.
Tomorrow will be its last appearance on Billboard, where it peaked at #32.
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Post by dm2081 on Aug 3, 2014 20:45:23 GMT -5
This is definitely done--it certainly looks like BMLG pulled support for this song this week. It's a real shame too; while I felt that the chorus was over-produced, and also the fact that Cassadee isn't my favorite vocalist (although I do still enjoy her voice quite a bit), I really enjoyed this one. It's very well-written and I liked the production throughout the verses. Tomorrow will be its last appearance on Billboard, where it peaked at #32. Any ideas of why they're pulling this one so soon? It's still hasn't been out that long yet. They play this song a TON locally, although she is from South Florida where I live, so that's probably why.
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Post by sabre14 on Aug 3, 2014 20:59:58 GMT -5
jhomes87 only mentioned she thinks that BMLG has pulled promotion for this though I agree with her, that's what indeed is happening here. I think that it was obvious a couple weeks ago that this wouldn't be doing much more on the charts and they would have to make a decision to continue promoting this or cut their losses. 20 weeks isn't ridiculously old, but when your song has yet to crack the top 30 on airplay, I think 20 weeks is a bit on the old side, especially one that's been treading water for a while now with minimal gains in audience. This song wasn't catching on, probably due to the heavy competition right now on the singles charts among other factors.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 23:01:02 GMT -5
In addition to the things sabre14 mentioned (competition, age of song, label cutting its losses, etc), I wonder if Republic is getting ready to put out some new music from other artists. There's actually been a bit of confusion about which promo team is actually promoting this--Big Machine or Republic Nashville. The published Country Aircheck chart lists Republic Nashville (which, to my understanding, is the imprint Cassadee is signed to outright), but Billboard lists Republic Nashville/Big Machine, perhaps suggesting that Big Machine's promo team was promoting this one. And I'm pretty sure Billboard has changed the label denotation on a few different occasions throughout this one's chart climb (and to make things more confusing, Aircheck lists the label for "Young In America"--and Bradbery is assigned to Big Machine proper--as 'Republic Nashville/Big Machine', whereas Billboard just lists Republic Nashville for YIA. In any case, Big Machine is currently working the Tim and RF singles to radio, and also a brand new one from The Cadillac Three. Republic Nashville just has FGL's "Dirt" and EYB's "Dust" right now. We can assume that Big Machine will be releasing a brand new Taylor single (possibly any day now), but I wonder if maybe Republic is gearing up to launch new group A Thousand Horses? Sometimes one song can get pulled if the label has a lot of other stuff waiting in the chute so that's a possibility here (key word is "possibility"). I haven't seen/heard anything about new The Band Perry music or anything from rookie acts Savannah Keyes and A Thousand Horses though, so not sure if that would play into their decision to pull Cassadee's song (if by chance those other acts had new music ready to go), but you never know. Anyway, it definitely looks to me that the label pulled support for this, but that's no different than what we saw with Easton's "Clockwork" or Strait's "I Got A Car". After a certain point, labels sometimes just decide that it's no longer worth it to keep fighting such an uphill battle. And in this case, I'm not sure if we'll get another single from Cassadee's debut album..
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Post by tobykeithfan2324 on Aug 4, 2014 16:00:00 GMT -5
I love Cassadee & this song, but country radio has no respect for female artist unless your name is Taylor Swift.
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Post by bigfan101 on Aug 4, 2014 16:17:24 GMT -5
I think you have to give "11" a try. Maybe a partnership with a kids foundation or something; but that song is too good, and too well written to just sit on an album
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Post by .indulgecountry on Aug 5, 2014 0:54:36 GMT -5
"11" needs to be a single. It was my original pick for the second single, but I feel like even now with her momentum slashed by this under-performing, it would be a shame not to at least try with it (or something else). Her debut album is full of radio potential imo and I'd hate to see so many great songs go unreleased and WATT go down as the only hit from the record.
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Post by Bluemargay on Aug 5, 2014 16:15:21 GMT -5
They should release an uptempo like "Champagne" or "This Car" the radio loves a good uptempo song
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Post by Markus Meyer on Aug 5, 2014 16:33:17 GMT -5
They should release an uptempo like "Champagne" or "This Car" the radio loves a good uptempo song I enjoy both of these and would be ok with either as a single, but I really hope they choose "This Car". Catchy as hell.
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Post by dm2081 on Aug 5, 2014 16:44:39 GMT -5
I personally wouldn't even risk throwing out a 3rd single that could just completely flop, just like Sheryl Crow did. I would wait a little bit until some of the smoke clears from all the big guns releasing new songs, and then just come back with something really catchy and fresh to kick off the next album already. I just don't see a 3rd single doing any better than "I Wish I Could Break Your Heart" did.
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Post by dajross6 on Aug 11, 2014 10:21:06 GMT -5
This actually sounded really good on the radio. It's really too bad it didn't catch on with big markets :(
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