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Post by Kishi KCM on Jan 10, 2015 14:38:37 GMT -5
Macklemore didn't rob anyone, the Grammy voters selected that album over Kendrick's. Something that should bother Kendrick, since his album is clearly superior. That is a matter of opinion. I have not listened to either album, but having a "clearly superior" album doesn't guarantee a win.
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Post by allow that on Jan 10, 2015 15:11:28 GMT -5
Macklemore didn't rob anyone, the Grammy voters selected that album over Kendrick's. Something that should bother Kendrick, since his album is clearly superior. Maybe he's just a class act and a good sport?
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Post by Live Your Life on Jan 10, 2015 15:22:23 GMT -5
He, generally, doesn't speak bad about anyone. The only reason I can see why he took it a step further to defend Iggy is because Nick Young, who is dating Iggy, is his cousin. I don't think they're really close, but he probably feels some sense of loyalty to him.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jan 10, 2015 15:25:26 GMT -5
Something that should bother Kendrick, since his album is clearly superior. Maybe he's just a class act and a good sport? I'd be salty, but whetever. Good for him for not being pressed I guess.
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Post by swim on Jan 10, 2015 15:27:51 GMT -5
I think he clearly stated he's not in this for awards. He's not Kanye.
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Post by surfy on Jan 10, 2015 15:29:23 GMT -5
Well, he knows that he can't win everything, and he knows that if the Grammys chose Macklemore over him, then that's what it is... he can't do anything about it, and he knows that. So why be mad about it and why should he be mad at Macklemore? It isn't his fault. He's proud of what he made, and that's all that matters to him!
I like Kendrick, he's very level-headed, and I sure as hell respect his talent, what an artist he is!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2015 16:13:13 GMT -5
Some of you are very simple. No one is saying that Kendrick should throw a hissy fit and read Macklemore's trash music for life but if you think that the Grammy's "just happened" to pick the white rapper's mediocre debut album in a category that was legitimately stacked with veritable talent you are deluding yourself. Macklemore's Grammy sweep last year will probably wind up in a textbook one day as the definition of white privilege. The committee that chooses Best Rap Album didn't even consider his album to be a true "rap" album and petitioned to have it moved to a pop category but the Grammys insisted that their token whitey have a spot so they could shower him with praise and awards for being so socially conscious and deep.
Not everything is as subjective as the internet likes to make it seem. Kendrick's album has already gone down in history as a classic rap album and it represented a level of storytelling and artistry in rap music that calls to mind hip-hop greats like Nas, Biggie, Pac and Kanye. Macklemore is not only a pretty technically abysmal rapper (very weak flow, corny metaphors) but his project was a pop effort served up neatly to a pop audience that wanted to pretend they like rap. This doesn't make him a bad person but it makes him incredibly undeserving of the attention and acclaim that he received. The Grammys represent the best music, not the most popular or the best-selling. For Macklemore's lame-ass offering to win over one of the strongest hip-hop major debuts since Kanye and three incredible offerings from the biggest names in rap today was a complete and utter joke.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2015 16:14:55 GMT -5
I'm going to cut Kendrick a pass for the Iggy caping only because it's clear that
a) the interviewer is the one who brought up/asked about Iggy first, not Kendrick - and that says more about mainstream media's determination to get as many people as possible to defend their newest pop-rap princess than it does about Kendrick
b) his defense seems to only be of her rapping and not of anything else she's said outside of that. I am thinking this interview took place before the most recent Twitter mess between Iggy and Azealia, so that can't quite be taken into account.
The Ferguson remarks though...sigh. I don't know why "We can't expect respect until we respect ourselves" is the bulls**t line that became most popular from within the supposed "self-respecting" members of our community, but whatever the reason, it makes me want to pick those people up and throw them all in front of a speeding Mack truck.
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Post by swim on Jan 10, 2015 16:23:01 GMT -5
Some of you are very simple. No one is saying that Kendrick should throw a hissy fit and read Macklemore's trash music for life but if you think that the Grammy's "just happened" to pick the white rapper's mediocre debut album in a category that was legitimately stacked with veritable talent you are deluding yourself. Macklemore's Grammy sweep last year will probably wind up in a textbook one day as the definition of white privilege. The committee that chooses Best Rap Album didn't even consider his album to be a true "rap" album and petitioned to have it moved to a pop category but the Grammys insisted that their token whitey have a spot so they could shower him with praise and awards for being so socially conscious and deep. Not everything is as subjective as the internet likes to make it seem. Kendrick's album has already gone down in history as a classic rap album and it represented a level of storytelling and artistry in rap music that calls to mind hip-hop greats like Nas, Biggie, Pac and Kanye. Macklemore is not only a pretty technically abysmal rapper (very weak flow, corny metaphors) but his project was a pop effort served up neatly to a pop audience that wanted to pretend they like rap. This doesn't make him a bad person but it makes him incredibly undeserving of the attention and acclaim that he received. The Grammys represent the best music, not the most popular or the best-selling. For Macklemore's lame-ass offering to win over one of the strongest hip-hop major debuts since Kanye and three incredible offerings from the biggest names in rap today was a complete and utter joke. In theory, yes, the Grammys would be about the best in music. That's rarely the case. You have to be popular enough to get nominated and often times be popular to win. Otherwise I can go on and on about virtually unknown talent that would technically be better than whatever gets nominated and claim a snub. Which is why in the grand scheme of things Kendrick has a good attitude about this. It's a fun party to show up to, but ultimately it doesn't matter. Macklemore is pop, but virtually all the rap nominees have some sort of crossover with the mainstream (which is more or less another term for crossing over to pop in some form) so you're really just proving my point even further. If Macklemore, Kendrick, Kanye, never got on with the public on a larger scale none of them would have ever been invited to the Grammys in the first place.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2015 16:35:55 GMT -5
The committee that chooses Best Rap Album didn't even consider his album to be a true "rap" album and petitioned to have it moved to a pop category but the Grammys insisted that their token whitey have a spot so they could shower him with praise and awards for being so socially conscious and deep. Forgive the emphasis on top of emphasis on top of emphasis, but this is the part that so many people either forget or don't know so I want to make it big for them. It would be one thing if the rap committee had chosen Macklemore as one of its nominees, but they didn't. The committee got vetoed on what belongs in its own genre. That is HUGELY problematic, even more so than Macklemore's actual wins over arguably better/'true' hip-hop albums. (edit: I have always found the Grammys to be a big load of politicking and favoritist horseshit, so I can't fully get behind the 'Grammys represent the best' argument. That's another discussion for another day though, and regardless it has nothing to do with the problem at discussion here.) A lot of people get so hung up over tearing down or defending the Macklemores and Iggys of the world that they miss the forest for the trees (and for those upset about it, this weakens what should be the stronger argument). Zoom out and look at the bigger picture...or put another way, the $10 you have in your pocket isn't the reason why I don't have $10 in mine, but if we're both part of a system that insists on making sure people like you always have an easy time getting $10 while people like me have to work ten times as hard just to get $1, you become an involuntary symbol of the flawed system. It's easy to take it out on the representatives but that isn't where the solution lies. which I imagine is why Kendrick is so cool about the losses to Macklemore and is all 'let Iggy do her.' Even if they themselves are racist, they're not the ones in power; they're just symbols. I suppose where Kendrick might lose some people is that he plays humble to the point where it looks like he's just congratulating those two instead of making that distinction between symbol/flawed system. But it's an edited interview and there are only so many points one can get across.
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Post by surfy on Jan 10, 2015 16:41:51 GMT -5
I had no idea about them trying to send the album to pop, so I apologize, that is wrong, and the Grammy's shouldn't have done that.
Grammys aside, Kendrick made an amazing album, and I look forward to hearing the newest! :)
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Post by SHOOTER on Feb 8, 2015 18:27:16 GMT -5
Grammy winner for Best Rap Performance and Best Rap Song!
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Post by tamed09 on Feb 9, 2015 18:41:03 GMT -5
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Post by #LisaRinna on Feb 9, 2015 18:56:17 GMT -5
I love the new song.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2015 19:14:43 GMT -5
It's a great song but the fact that he ended with that line about Trayvon Martin shows that he opposite of gets it. Equating the murder of an unarmed teenager with the myth of black on black crime is why people stopped fucking with you in the first place K Dot.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Feb 10, 2015 19:35:31 GMT -5
It's a great song but the fact that he ended with that line about Trayvon Martin shows that he opposite of gets it. Equating the murder of an unarmed teenager with the myth of black on black crime is why people stopped f**king with you in the first place K Dot. I clearly missed this when I first heard it last night, but now that you mention it, it is odd. I still like its overall sentiment though. And it's a well produced track as well.
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Post by tamed09 on Mar 6, 2015 17:49:09 GMT -5
UNTITLED is the album name...drops MARCH 23rd
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Post by Kurt on Mar 6, 2015 17:54:32 GMT -5
iTunes preorder link:
Hard telling yet if [Untitled] is the actual title or if that's just a placeholder. "The Blacker The Berry" is track #13; "i" isn't on the album. Curious about the twelve-minute closer.
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Post by josh on Mar 6, 2015 17:56:14 GMT -5
Ready to see what he's been working on. Hoping "i" is not indicative of the rest of the album or I will be very disappointed. nvm Kurt lol
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Post by #LisaRinna on Mar 6, 2015 18:51:41 GMT -5
"i" isn't on the album? :o
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Mar 6, 2015 19:09:36 GMT -5
2 weeks! My heart can't take this.
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Post by swim on Mar 6, 2015 19:20:31 GMT -5
Ready for this! Hope this album has massive success, there's so much hype for him right now.
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Post by Glove Slap on Mar 6, 2015 20:52:52 GMT -5
2 weeks! My heart can't take this. YES! Ready 4 Lamarization!!!!! As much as I enjoyed i, I wouldn't exactly be super upset if it actually doesn't end up on it.
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Post by maine on Mar 7, 2015 13:25:12 GMT -5
I don't think the album is titled [Untitled]. On the digital booklet for the album it says, "Digital Booklet - TBD", so my guess is the Untitled thing is a placeholder.
Interesting the "i" didn't make the cut. It won two Grammys so I don't see why it's not included. Only two reasonings I can think of is it could have a longer edit on the album, or the album could be a concept album and "i" didn't fit in.
ETA: "i" could be track 3 (only 3 seconds longer), or it could be track 11 or 12 and have the intro included like when it was first leaked with that speech in the beginning.
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Post by SHOOTER on Mar 7, 2015 14:57:07 GMT -5
Or Kendrick could be trolling and decided to let his Grammy-award winning song essentially be a leftover.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Mar 11, 2015 2:37:34 GMT -5
The album is titled To Pimp a Butterfly1. “Wesley’s Theory” 2. “For Free? (Interlude)” 3. “King Kunta” 4. “Institutionalized” 5. “These Walls” 6. “U” 7. “Alright” 8. “For Sale? (Interlude)” 9. “Momma” 10. “Hood Politics” 11. “How Much a Dollar Cost” 12. “Complexion” 13. “The Blacker the Berry” 14. “You Ain’t Gotta Lie (Momma Said)” 15. “i” 16. “Mortal Man”
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Post by music89 on Mar 11, 2015 4:24:54 GMT -5
can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Active Aggressive on Mar 11, 2015 6:33:00 GMT -5
What kind of rap version of Black Messiah??!?
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Post by Live Your Life on Mar 11, 2015 11:25:31 GMT -5
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Post by SHOOTER on Mar 11, 2015 13:38:15 GMT -5
This better live up to all the hype.
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