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Post by carriekins on Aug 11, 2014 14:09:04 GMT -5
Dierks was on Bobby Bones today so I'd expect a hefty gain for Drunk on a Plane tomorrow. But yeah, I'm curious to see what happens with River Bank. It's kind of been treading for the past few weeks. Drunk On A Plane is at #2 at MediaBase behind Lee Brice. Yes? I know? They were talking about River Bank trying to make a run at DOAP and I pointed out that by being on Bobby Bones today, its syndicated spins would provide a healthy jump for DOAP tomorrow.
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Post by onebuffalo on Aug 11, 2014 14:13:03 GMT -5
Drunk On A Plane is at #2 at MediaBase behind Lee Brice. Yes? I know? They were talking about River Bank trying to make a run at DOAP and I pointed out that by being on Bobby Bones today, its syndicated spins would provide a healthy jump for DOAP tomorrow. I'm expecting Drunk On A Plane to be Dierks Bentley's 12th chart topping hit. I'll be able to move him from #49 to #42 on the list of those with the most #1s.
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Post by Marv on Aug 11, 2014 16:33:27 GMT -5
Brad's a microscopic 57 points behind 'Bartender' which certainly isn't a big deal although he edged past them on the newest update, and the fact they've been on the chart for five fewer weeks than he has will make the next 2-3 weeks pretty interesting to watch.
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Post by mylifeback on Aug 11, 2014 17:04:09 GMT -5
At first, I didn't mind this song but it burned on me really quickly. For me, Brad's singles are either way too busy (like this one) or really incredibly boring (I Can't Change The World). Beat This Summer grew on me, but I haven't loved a song of his in quite some time, in fact I can't really remember the last one I thought was fantastic (maybe Remind Me was the last one - loved that).
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Post by zjames on Aug 11, 2014 17:08:30 GMT -5
I'll still listen to this when it comes on the radio, but I'm not as excited about it as I used to be.
It's still a good song in today's country climate. It's an average Paisley song. Paisley can do better. He better step it up with the singles this era.
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Post by kml567 on Aug 11, 2014 19:43:30 GMT -5
Wow there are 4 songs with "Max Spins/Power Up to #1" ads this week!!! Lee Brice wants a 2nd week at #1, Dierks/Brad/Tim all have big ads gunning for #1. Crazy!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2014 0:53:28 GMT -5
I can see Brad getting the Mediabase #1 on Sunday. This song (and ads promoting it) are everywhere right now.
It definitely appears as if Arista is gunning hard for the Mediabase-only #1 this week, unwilling to wait any longer. Today's update was the first for the new Mediabase week, and Brad gained 108 spins and 660k in audience...whereas his competitors mostly lost spins and had very small audience gains (or even losses). Dierks had a -3 spins / +197k, Lady A had a -20 spins / +75k, Lee Brice had a -3 spins / -387k, and Tim was up a solid +76 spins / +486k in audience.
But Brad's Saturday (the Sunday update) was almost completely flat..."River Bank" dropped 25 spins and only gained 13k. So that's a huge, huge change from Saturday (7th day of the MB week) to Sunday (1st day of the new MB week) and it's enough for me to feel that Arista will push the hardest for the Mediabase #1 this week. I don't think Lee has much of a chance at all at a 2nd week at #1 on either chart. Brad likely won't take the Billboard #1 though as Arista has lined up the push for Sunday through Saturday, corresponding with the Mediabase tracking period rather than the Billboard one, so I'd put my money on Dierks for the BB #1 next week.
All of these artists have albums coming out soon but Brad's song has had the most erratic chart run, and he's in a position to fall fast once he does peak, whereas I feel that both the Tim and Lady A songs (especially "Bartender") have more gas left in the tank. I can see both of those songs bulleting for another 2-3 weeks if need be while the competition for the top spot sorts itself out.
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Post by Zazie on Aug 14, 2014 18:46:47 GMT -5
Looking at the numbers as if they formed some kind of pattern, I'd say that Lady A's song was having the kind of run that would end up in at least a 2-week stay at #1. I'd say that, but I do remember that I said that about Urban/Lambert's We Were Us, and that sure didn't happen.
And I'd say that Brad's song was in a pattern that would leave it short of #1 -- in fact, fortunate to get a week in the top 3 -- but what I'm learning is that patterns don't hold up. The behavior of labels, and where the self-interest of labels lies, is beyond my understanding.
Nothing about the chart peak of River Bank would surprise me. I'd like Brad to reach at least a total of 20 #1 songs on Billboard, so I wish he'd get a #1 sometime really soon -- like now -- but it's just impossible to say he will. Or he won't. I wouldn't have thought he'd get to #1 on MB this coming weekend, but now I have to reconsider that. He's 3 million behind Dierks in audience, and 260+ spins behind, with 3 days to go, so if some unnatural force can get him to the top, it had better work on it pretty soon.
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Post by Marv on Aug 16, 2014 23:22:33 GMT -5
It's been over 12 years since 'My List' and 'Drive (For Daddy Gene)' spent five weeks at #1 in succession en route to winding up #1 and #2 for the year at R&R/Mediabase; I'm as disgusted as everybody else about the one-and-done stints at #1 for ages, but that's what happens when the charts are manipulated as grotesquely as they've been in recent years, and especially since every label on Music Row has initiated their version of what Scott Borchetta has done repeatedly with various singles from his artists, most notoriously Taylor Swift.
I also had no idea the Brad hadn't already cross the 20 #1 singles milestone by now since I thought he was a lot closer to Tim McGraw's 25 number one singles than he actually is, although he's released a lot fewer stinkers than Tim has.
Here's hoping that 'Riverbank' will get it done next week.
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Post by sabre14 on Aug 17, 2014 17:10:37 GMT -5
Like it was discussed in the "Drunk On A Plane" thread; Arista decided to go all in this week (especially this weekend) to get "River Bank" to #1 on MB and came up short. Dierks' audience along with spins (even though Brad ended up edging him out this week) was just too much to overcome in the end as it couldn't surpass "Drunk On A Plane" in points. It wasn't for a lack of effort as you can see with a 800 spin increase and a near 4 million audience increase. I suspect Brad will start falling tomorrow or Tuesday for a few reasons. 1. This will be his sixth week inside the top 5 on MB 2. This week will mark his 21st overall 3. Arista has already went all in for a #1 this week 4. "River Bank" has now pretty much maxed out it's highest possible spins (7700) I predicted that "Drunk On A Plane" would hold on but I'll be honest, even I was taken back by how massive the spin increase of "River Bank" was this week. 817 spins increase from last week is absurd for a song that from the start didn't look like a future #1 song once it entered the top 10. As for who's next, I see that Tim has passed Lady A on MB this week and Lady A does not host CCUSA til two weeks from now, while Dierks is next weekend (great timing). I agree with jhomes87 that Lady A has a little more gas left in the tank than Tim's song does, so we might see Big Machine fight for #1 this upcoming week. Should be interesting though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 23:02:06 GMT -5
Like it was discussed in the "Drunk On A Plane" thread; Arista decided to go all in this week (especially this weekend) to get "River Bank" to #1 on MB and came up short. Dierks' audience along with spins (even though Brad ended up edging him out this week) was just too much to overcome in the end as it couldn't surpass "Drunk On A Plane" in points. It wasn't for a lack of effort as you can see with a 800 spin increase and a near 4 million audience increase. It's kinda nice to see one of these big pushes come up short on Mediabase as well (although I guess the Billboard chart isn't official yet, but Brad is almost 2 mil behind Dierks on MB so I don't see how "River Bank" would come out on top at BB). I was fearing to wake up this morning and see Brad at #1 on Mediabase, and I was expecting it to last precisely one day. And to be honest I'm a bit surprised RB isn't #1, since it's almost 100 spins ahead of Dierks, and spins seem to affect the points more than audience does. But perhaps the nearly 1.9 million lead that Dierks has was enough to make up for the spins gap between DOAP and RB. Brad actually had quite a weird week. I don't recall his Tuesday or Wednesday morning updates being all that big, which surprised me given the monstrous Monday morning update he had. And then of course this song started really gaining spins again during the back part of the week, resulting in the +817 bullet. If Brad had had a better Monday and/or Tuesday, he may have just edged Dierks, at least on MB. I'd post the daily numbers, but Kworb has been down for the last several days (at least for me)..
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Post by dm2081 on Aug 17, 2014 23:49:40 GMT -5
It's been down for me too :(. I'm not sure if it's a temporary thing or a permanent one.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 23:51:51 GMT -5
It's been down for me too :(. I'm not sure if it's a temporary thing or a permanent one. I think it'll come back. But it's definitely had more issues in the last few months than ever before, that's for sure.
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Post by onebuffalo on Aug 18, 2014 8:22:18 GMT -5
It's been over 12 years since 'My List' and 'Drive (For Daddy Gene)' spent five weeks at #1 in succession en route to winding up #1 and #2 for the year at R&R/Mediabase; I'm as disgusted as everybody else about the one-and-done stints at #1 for ages, but that's what happens when the charts are manipulated as grotesquely as they've been in recent years, and especially since every label on Music Row has initiated their version of what Scott Borchetta has done repeatedly with various singles from his artists, most notoriously Taylor Swift. I also had no idea the Brad hadn't already cross the 20 #1 singles milestone by now since I thought he was a lot closer to Tim McGraw's 25 number one singles than he actually is, although he's released a lot fewer stinkers than Tim has. Here's hoping that 'Riverbank' will get it done next week. Here's the top 23 artists in country music with the most #1 hits: 1. GEORGE STRAIT-44-1982-2009-HOF-AOD (2000s)(has the most #1s between 2006-present)(the #1 artist of the 1990s)(had the most #1s during the 1990s with 17) 2. Conway Twitty-40-1968-1986-HOF (had the most #1s between 1980-2006)(the #1 artist of the 1970s)(had the most #1s during the 1970s with 25) 3. Merle Haggard-38-1967-1988-HOF 4. Ronnie Milsap-35-1974-1989-HOF 5. Alabama-33-1980-2011-HOF-AOD (1980s)(had the most #1s during the 1980s with 26) 6. Charley Pride-29-1969-1983-HOF 7. Eddy Arnold-28-1947-1968-HOF (had the most #1s between 1948-1980)(the #1 artist of the 1940s)(had the most #1s during the 1940s with 11) 8. Alan Jackson-26-1991-2010 9. Dolly Parton-25-1971-2006-HOF 10. Reba McEntire-25-1983-2011-HOF 11. Tim McGraw-25-1994-2013 12. Sonny James-23-1957-1974-HOF 13. Willie Nelson-23-1975-2003-HOF (the #1 artist of the 1980s) 14. Kenny Chesney-22-1997-2012 (the #1 artist of the 2000s) 15. Buck Owens-21-1963-1988-HOF (the #1 artist of the 1960s)(had the most #1s during the 1960s with 19) 16. Kenny Rogers-21-1977-2000-HOF 17. Tammy Wynette-20-1967-1977-HOF 18. Brooks & Dunn-20-1991-2005 19. Toby Keith-20-1993-2011 (had the most 1#s during the 2000s with 16) 20. Garth Brooks-19-1989-2007-HOF-AOD (1990s)(had the most #1s during the 1990s with 17) 21. Crystal Gayle-18-1976-1987 22. Earl Thomas Conley-18-1981-1989 23. Brad Paisley-18-1999-2011
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Post by mylifeback on Aug 18, 2014 8:35:14 GMT -5
So glad this didn't make it to #1 on Mediabase & his label was foiled. As expected, the collapse has started with this morning's update.
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Post by countryman87 on Aug 18, 2014 8:46:58 GMT -5
Here's a look at how RB did day by day last week. Spins Increase SUN 8/10 6897 MON 8/11 7005 +108 TUE 8/12 7056 +51 WED 8/13 7086 +30 THU 8/14 7234 +148 FRI 8/15 7323 +89 SAT 8/16 7462 +139 SUN 8/17 7715 +253
So if Brad did have a better update on Tue and Wed he may be at #1 this week. I guess we'll never know.
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Post by Marv on Aug 18, 2014 10:11:38 GMT -5
Brad missed the penthouse by a microscopic total of 61 points, or less than 20 spins.
OTOH, Tim & Faith edged Lady Antebellum for the #3 slot by an even tinier margin of ELEVEN points, or a whopping three spins.
This week is going to be a madhouse as well as a blast to watch.
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Post by onebuffalo on Aug 18, 2014 10:15:36 GMT -5
^Which means Big Machine can start another ridiculous push to #1.
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Post by rsmatto on Aug 18, 2014 10:54:36 GMT -5
^Which means Big Machine can start another ridiculous push to #1. And they will.
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Post by sabre14 on Aug 18, 2014 11:08:05 GMT -5
^Which means Big Machine can start another ridiculous push to #1. And they will. Agreed. Tim is the favorite to get to #1 next. He's already co-hosted CCUSA this past week and his song has had a little bit of a slower go at it so far than Lady A, who are co-hosting CCUSA the 30th and 31st. This is definitely Big Machines week of opportunity to get to #1.
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Post by someguy on Aug 18, 2014 12:05:03 GMT -5
It's been down for me too :(. I'm not sure if it's a temporary thing or a permanent one. I think it'll come back. But it's definitely had more issues in the last few months than ever before, that's for sure. It's back as of this morning!
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Post by onebuffalo on Aug 18, 2014 14:01:51 GMT -5
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Post by mylifeback on Aug 18, 2014 19:27:55 GMT -5
Does anyone have any sort of list or tally of songs/artists/labels who've gotten a suspiciously-timed, sketchy push from their label to reach what appears to be a manufactured MB #1? I see Big Machine getting a lot of grief for this tactic, but I'm just curious if they are the main culprit in the last couple of years or if people just like to hate them. I know they were perceived as the first label to make a regular habit of this, but I remember singles from Brad, Carrie, Rascal Flatts, Little Big Town (and probably many I've forgotten about) that got a one-day Mediabase #1, only to collapse the next day.
Just would be curious to see a list and in particular, which labels and artists have been most often involved in recent history. As I said, I see BLG getting lots of negative comments about this but I think it would be interesting to see if the data falls that way.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Aug 18, 2014 19:46:41 GMT -5
I don't have a list but pretty much every label does it now but it all started with Scott Borchetta backed singles and I think that reputation will probably follow him for the rest of his career among chart watchers.
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Post by bjer127 on Aug 20, 2014 10:26:46 GMT -5
This song is finally starting to catch on for me. Every time I hear it i sing the last line in the chorus ALL DAY long. I even ad-lib it to my wife .."we're laughing all the waaaayyyy..to the grocery store" LOL. And judging by the songs he's leaked, album sounds like it good be his best since 5th Gear. I love Perfect Storm (pray it is single #2 and not Crushin It). Someone else mentioned on this board that Brad's songs were "busy", and thats spot on. I couldn't grasp the write word, but almost all his fun novelty singles have way too much going on. If we would tone down the production and add some other elements, he'd be even better. Think back to his first 2 albums, he was like second coming of Alan Jackson.
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Post by onebuffalo on Aug 21, 2014 16:18:28 GMT -5
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Post by Marv on Aug 21, 2014 18:02:29 GMT -5
Borchetta actually utilized this 'strategy' of outsized pushes starting in 2004; he was responsible for 'Somebody' getting to #1 @ Billboard in something likes its 31st week on the chart, but as was previously stated, the practice has been adopted by just about every label along Music Row.
The push which got 'White Liar' to #1 4 1/2 years ago included a slew of tweets and requests from many of Miranda's friends, including Lady Antebellum, David Nail, Justin Moore, Martina, Dierks, Jack Ingram, Chris Young, James Otto, Michelle Branch, co-writer Natalie Hemby & Kellie Pickler just to name a few!
I'm disappointed that Brad didn't get to #1, but I'm definitely looking forward to his next single and the new CD come Tuesday.
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Post by sabre14 on Aug 21, 2014 19:07:17 GMT -5
Borchetta actually utilized this 'strategy' of outsized pushes starting in 2004; he was responsible for 'Somebody' getting to #1 @ Billboard in something likes its 31st week on the chart, but as was previously stated, the practice has been adopted by just about every label along Music Row. The push which got 'White Liar' to #1 4 1/2 years ago included a slew of tweets and requests from many of Miranda's friends, including Lady Antebellum, David Nail, Justin Moore, Martina, Dierks, Jack Ingram, Chris Young, James Otto, Michelle Branch, co-writer Natalie Hemby & Kellie Pickler just to name a few!I'm disappointed that Brad didn't get to #1, but I'm definitely looking forward to his next single and the new CD come Tuesday. He also did one for "Wherever You Are" by Jack Ingram in May of 2006, leap frogging Jason Aldean's "Why" for #1. Jack would take a serious fall the next week and Jason patiently waited his turn. It didn't happen nearly as much back in 2004-2006 as it does now.
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Post by Marv on Aug 23, 2014 10:29:43 GMT -5
I goofed again; Brad's CD will be released on Monday and not Tuesday.
Sorry 'bout that folks!
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Aug 25, 2014 15:27:32 GMT -5
Why do so many of the bigger stars lately seem to hit a wall when they get to the #3 or #2 range? That happens all the time.
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