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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2014 21:19:55 GMT -5
Bad pop song, lol this is about as good as a pop song can get. I can name ten better than this off the top of my head. Tennis Court Problem Not a Bad Thing Stay With Me Love Runs Out Sing okay maybe not 10... "Problem" is problem is the only one from that list that I would consider worthy of being up there, but this is still better.
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Post by Green Baron on May 29, 2014 21:20:08 GMT -5
also I can't stand the lyrics either
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Post by Lordef†ones on May 29, 2014 21:21:21 GMT -5
This song is better than 90% of what's on Pop right now(literally 90%, only 5 songs on the Mediabase chart that I like better than this(Tennis Court, Come With Me Now, Sleeping With A Friend, Animals, and Best Day of My Life)). The drug-addled lyrics are probably what's such a big turnoff.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2014 21:22:24 GMT -5
also I can't stand the lyrics either Spend my days locked in a haze trying to forget you Sounds like the alts board (some posters) feeling about this song.
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Post by Green Baron on May 29, 2014 21:22:30 GMT -5
This song is better than 90% of what's on Pop right now. The drug-addled lyrics are probably what's such a big turnoff. how do you feel it on Alternative though?
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Post by Lordef†ones on May 29, 2014 21:23:15 GMT -5
This song is better than 90% of what's on Pop right now. The drug-addled lyrics are probably what's such a big turnoff. how do you feel it on Alternative though? It's in my Top 30..
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2014 21:24:35 GMT -5
This song is better than 90% of what's on Pop right now. The drug-addled lyrics are probably what's such a big turnoff. how do you feel it on Alternative though? The drug referenced lyrics actually does give off a bit of an alternative vibe noting that this isn't hip hop (Cause that genre also has it) and as I said earlier in this thread, alternative has never claimed itself as a truly specific genre.
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Post by Verisimilitude on May 29, 2014 21:24:35 GMT -5
Besides, the lyrics to this are very early Fiona Apple with an Ellie Goulding touch in the vocals.
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Post by Green Baron on May 29, 2014 21:27:34 GMT -5
Besides, the lyrics to this are very early Fiona Apple with an Ellie Goulding touch in the vocals. If anything, the lyrics remind me of System of a Down's "Sugar", about being high on coke
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Post by Pipa on May 29, 2014 21:28:49 GMT -5
"Atrocities" The song is obviously great. Which are the non-atrocity songs you want to see move up? Until It's Gone, Top Notch, Smooth Sailing, Out of the Black, Who Needs You. And let's not forget the ultimate screwing over of Guilty All the Same, one of the format's all time biggest acts. Even they couldn't get a top 20 (on BB) just on name - with a history like that, they should have debuted high at least. But no, they don't get any benefit from being a core act. And Take Out the Gunman, oh god...
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Post by Green Baron on May 29, 2014 21:33:07 GMT -5
Still - it was disappointing since they just hit top ten two months ago - but I guess it's all a fucking sham now. At least trends are cyclic.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on May 29, 2014 22:12:53 GMT -5
"Atrocities" The song is obviously great. Which are the non-atrocity songs you want to see move up? Until It's Gone, Top Notch, Smooth Sailing, Out of the Black, Who Needs You. And let's not forget the ultimate screwing over of Guilty All the Same, one of the format's all time biggest acts. Even they couldn't get a top 20 (on BB) just on name - with a history like that, they should have debuted high at least. But no, they don't get any benefit from being a core act. And Take Out the Gunman, oh god... I'd also like to add "When We Come Alive", "Do or Die", "Words as Weapons", "Drown", and "Painkiller". And yeah, as stated above, the lyrics are horrible and the beat on this song is generic. Don't really know why you guys like this one so much, and want it to succeed on Alternative when the general consensus is that it is very poppy (even for current Alternative). Let Pop have it or something, I don't know. Lastly, I believe Alternative is rooted in rock music, and therefore should reflect that. (Which is why I believe the last three songs I listed should chart on Alternative - they are good quality songs). Now only 17 more spots to go. Keep dreaming, pal. Actually if it does happen, Alternative truly will have gone to the dogs. Still - it was disappointing since they just hit top ten two months ago - but I guess it's all a f**king sham now. At least trends are cyclic. I'll probably get a verbal whipping for this, but I honestly preferred it when Alternative was artist-based rather than song based. It's probably because I was influenced when all the core artists were scoring #1s, but it's very frustrating to see them merely tread water lately. At least when these artists saw success I had something to look forward to hearing on Alternative radio.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2014 22:20:50 GMT -5
how do you feel it on Alternative though? The drug referenced lyrics actually does give off a bit of an alternative vibe noting that this isn't hip hop (Cause that genre also has it) and as I said earlier in this thread, alternative has never claimed itself as a truly specific genre. "binge on all my twinkies" and all bets are off
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Post by kanimal on May 29, 2014 22:47:50 GMT -5
I gotta feeling that history will repeat itself here and she will be the next big Katy Perry type artist on the charts, only better. I definitely think this can be a big crossover hit, but nothing else on her EP seems radio-friendly. "Over" is good but doesn't pop enough in the chorus, "Not on Drugs" actually sounds like a Selena Gomez song (the ones that didn't sell - not Come and Get It), and the rest just strikes me as filler. As for the comment regarding core acts not getting play, I guess I'm confused why Linkin Park -- which is one of the acts that absolutely contributed to the poppification of alt/modern rock, deserves to be treated like some legendary, sincere alternative act.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on May 29, 2014 23:09:12 GMT -5
I gotta feeling that history will repeat itself here and she will be the next big Katy Perry type artist on the charts, only better. I definitely think this can be a big crossover hit, but nothing else on her EP seems radio-friendly. "Over" is good but doesn't pop enough in the chorus, "Not on Drugs" actually sounds like a Selena Gomez song (the ones that didn't sell - not Come and Get It), and the rest just strikes me as filler. As for the comment regarding core acts not getting play, I guess I'm confused why Linkin Park -- which is one of the acts that absolutely contributed to the poppification of alt/modern rock, deserves to be treated like some legendary, sincere alternative act. Lol, what? I would definitely NOT say that Linkin Park contributed to the "poppification" of Alternative Rock. They emerged/took off at a time when the format leaned nu-metal/active rock. They are the ones that switched up their style which fit whatever the current state of Alternative was at the time. Also, here are some reasons why Linkin Park should be considered a core, sincere Alternative act. 1. Hybrid Theory went diamond. Even if it took a really long time, that's a huge milestone for any act, especially an Alternative/Rock act IMO. 2. All 5 of their singles released in the US from Meteora was a #1 Alternative hit. This is the album with the most Alternative #1s produced. 3. Meteora and Californication from RHCP (another core Alternative act!) are albums that are tied with their respective singles spending the highest total amount of weeks among them at the top of the Alternative chart. 4. The lead single from Minutes to Midnight was the third song to ever debut at #1 on Alternative. Heck, they've had four consecutive Top 10 Alternative debuts with lead singles since Meteora, with "Somewhere I Belong" debuting at #2, "What I've Done" debuting at #1, "The Catalyst" debuting at #5 and "Burn it Down" debuting at #8. Yes, they've faltered a bit in recent years, since their last two albums received mixed reception, but songs like "Waiting for the End" and "Burn it Down" still did really well when released. So yes, they definitely have attained "legendary status" on the Alternative chart, and there is no reason for them to drop this sharply in airplay, even when they are still well known and are still listened by many people, including today's teenagers, all over the country.
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Post by Green Baron on May 31, 2014 17:19:44 GMT -5
I definitely think this can be a big crossover hit, but nothing else on her EP seems radio-friendly. "Over" is good but doesn't pop enough in the chorus, "Not on Drugs" actually sounds like a Selena Gomez song (the ones that didn't sell - not Come and Get It), and the rest just strikes me as filler. As for the comment regarding core acts not getting play, I guess I'm confused why Linkin Park -- which is one of the acts that absolutely contributed to the poppification of alt/modern rock, deserves to be treated like some legendary, sincere alternative act. pro-Linkin Park statements We all have to realize that they are the 4th most popular Alternative act of all time - and this all came about in 13 years - and for the format just to not play them because "it's too heavy" is injustice.
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Post by Lahey's Lucky Star on Jun 1, 2014 16:15:05 GMT -5
Officially Top 20.
Alternative: 22 18 TOVE LO Habits (Stay High) 553 476 77 1.457
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Post by Green Baron on Jun 1, 2014 16:15:48 GMT -5
Officially Top 20. Alternative:22 18 TOVE LO Habits (Stay High) 553 476 77 1.457 + 10 spins - 2 bullet + 0.037 AI fancy seeing you here around these parts of the site
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2014 18:24:28 GMT -5
Officially Top 20. Alternative:22 18 TOVE LO Habits (Stay High) 553 476 77 1.457 + 10 spins - 2 bullet + 0.037 AI fancy seeing you here around these parts of the site I should change my name so that it mocks everything you do (Like I did that one time with Lahey). :kii:
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Jun 1, 2014 22:11:44 GMT -5
This is OK. Might grow on me.
I usually find it annoying when posters discuss how "not alternative" some of the songs currently being played on alt are, but this time I actually agree. This is so pop lol.
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Post by Devin on Jun 1, 2014 22:20:33 GMT -5
This is OK. Might grow on me. I usually find it annoying when posters discuss how "not alternative" some of the songs currently being played on alt are, but this time I actually agree. This is so pop lol. I would understand if it had a "Lights"-type run, but accelerating into the Top 20 is ridiculous.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Jun 1, 2014 22:55:43 GMT -5
I'd rather see pop and Alternative be more separated. Like people have said, why play pop songs on this format when they'll inevitably get played on Top 40 radio, where they'll get tons of exposure?
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Post by Lahey's Lucky Star on Jun 2, 2014 15:49:04 GMT -5
UGH the bullet is just falling apart here. Alternative:21 18 TOVE LO Habits (Stay High) 561 492 69 1.417 + 8 spins - 8 bullet + 0.040 AI Also just noticed this but at the audience
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Post by Radical347 on Jun 2, 2014 17:44:53 GMT -5
I don't dislike this, but count me in with those who think it makes no sense on alternative. I think poppy songs can fit on alternative as long as there's something unique/edgy about them (i.e. Phantogram, MS MR) but this pop song is neither.
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Post by Pipa on Jun 2, 2014 22:31:52 GMT -5
I don't dislike this, but count me in with those who think it makes no sense on alternative. I think poppy songs can fit on alternative as long as there's something unique/edgy about them (i.e. Phantogram, MS MR) but this pop song is neither. Exactly, and the poppier stuff still has a youthful energy to it. The 90s had soccer mom anthems go top 10.
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Post by Lahey's Lucky Star on Jun 4, 2014 16:21:01 GMT -5
The bullet is STILL falling apart.
Alternative: 20 18 TOVE LO Habits (Stay High) 571 527 44 1.449
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I actually want Tiesto's "Wasted" to crack top 50 here just to piss Green Baron off a bit more than with Tove Lo.
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Post by Green Baron on Jun 4, 2014 16:24:00 GMT -5
The bullet is STILL falling apart. Alternative:20 18 TOVE LO Habits (Stay High) 571 527 44 1.449 + 6 spins - 8 bullet + 0.022 Audience I actually want Tiesto's "Wasted" to crack top 50 here just to piss Green Baron off a bit more than with Tove Lo. Why would it? I mean, I like Red Lights, but why Alt?
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Post by Green Baron on Jun 4, 2014 16:24:49 GMT -5
Also Wasted is an actual good song, so it beats Tove Lo in that.
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Post by Lahey's Lucky Star on Jun 4, 2014 16:26:13 GMT -5
The bullet is STILL falling apart. Alternative:20 18 TOVE LO Habits (Stay High) 571 527 44 1.449 + 6 spins - 8 bullet + 0.022 Audience I actually want Tiesto's "Wasted" to crack top 50 here just to piss Green Baron off a bit more than with Tove Lo. Why would it? I mean, I like Red Lights, but why Alt? It sounds more indie than his usual dance pop stuff. Plus it makes up for "Doses & Mimosas" not making top 10 on this format
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Post by Green Baron on Jun 4, 2014 16:38:50 GMT -5
Why would it? I mean, I like Red Lights, but why Alt? It sounds more indie than his usual dance pop stuff. Plus it makes up for "Doses & Mimosas" not making top 10 on this formatI hope the last part was a joke. Also there's too much EDM for it to be Alt.
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