carriekins
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Post by carriekins on Aug 26, 2014 8:16:56 GMT -5
it did in the morning update at all access/media_base though audience went down slightly to 54.932.000 Right, but unfortunately the Mediabase chart isn't final until Sunday evening. Tim's spins/audience are decreasing, which means it's only a matter of days before Lady A takes over the #1 spot - where it will be when the chart is final on Sunday. So even though Tim is there now, it doesn't count as a #1.
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Marv
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Post by Marv on Aug 26, 2014 9:45:02 GMT -5
2014 will definitely go into the books as the worst year for country music in my 18 years as a country music listener; this wonderful tune ranks a very close second on my list behind 'My Little Girl' as the best Tim McGraw song not to reach #1 @ R&R/Mediabase, with 'Better Than I Use To Be', 'Unbroken' and 'For A Little While' closing out my top five.
At least the 'NASH-Icon' stations out there which Cumulus CEO Lew Dickey gave more details about in last night's edition of Country Aircheck will be a great home for folks such as George & Alan for years to come; do you really want to compare the top 5 country singles of 1996 (My Maria/Blue Clear Sky/Like The Rain/It Matters To Me/Time Marches On) to 2014's anything-but-fabulous five including Brett Eldridge, Justin Moore, & Jason Aldean?
Nashville's blessed with exceptional songwriters; where the heck are they?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 13:17:30 GMT -5
Marv- id love to know your thoughts on why THIS is the worst year for country. IMO we've seen a few victories for traditional country fans, we've seen albums from Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson and Dolly Parton all debut at either #1 or #2. We've seen failures for bro country songs(Donkey #43, Lookin For That Girl #15) and success for songs with substance(I Hold On #1, I Don't Dance #1, Meanwhile Back At Mamas#2, What We Ain't Got has already charted higher than i thought it would) plus theres been backlash against bro country and we are going to see the return of Garth and Trisha which MIGHT signal a return for females on country radio. But these are just my thoughts id love to hear yours
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Markus Meyer
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Post by Markus Meyer on Aug 26, 2014 13:29:23 GMT -5
I would say last year was worse overall, for the reasons zack listed. 2013 was really the year of the bro, whereas this year we're starting to experience backlash against it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 13:42:23 GMT -5
^I agree about 2013 being the worst, at least the bros are releasing some stuff with substance this year(FGL-Dirt, Luke-Roller Coaster, Farr-A Guy Walks Into A Bar,Tim(def not a bro but recent output id questionable), Meamwhile Back At Mamas) Hell Chase Rice and Cole Swindell could even step it up with Carolina Can and Dozen Roses and A 6pack, i hate to turn the attention away from what THIS thread is supposed to be about, just thought it need said
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 14:40:31 GMT -5
this mornings all access/media-base update puts Meanwhile Back at Mama's at #1 giving Tim and Faith their third #1 as a duo and first since Angry all the Time did so for the chart ending January 19th 2002 can't wait to see Hot Country Singles this would be their first #1 since the chart was re titled for the week ending 4/30/2005 This song will not be a #1 hit on any of the main charts (the only charts on which it was a #1 are Billboard's Canada chart and also the Aircheck Activator and Billboard Indicator charts here in the states, but both of those charts only include airplay in small markets). It might be at #1 on Mediabase as of this morning but that chart does not become official until Sunday, and Lady Antebellum's "Bartender" is gaining quickly on Tim--they will certainly overtake him within the next few days. Furthermore, Big Machine already sent Tim's new single "Shotgun Rider" out to radio today, so MBAM will start falling more quickly in the coming days as well, making Lady A's job much easier. As for Billboard's Hot Country Songs chart, unfortunately Tim and Faith also have a 0% chance of going to #1 on that chart. Hot Country Songs is a hybrid chart that blends airplay, sales, and streaming numbers, and while "Meanwhile Back At Mama's" has solid numbers in all of those areas, it is nowhere near the top of the sales and streaming songs charts ("Bartender" easily eclipses it there, as does Jason Aldean's "Burnin' It Down", Kenny Chesney's "American Kids", Florida Georgia Line's "Dirt", etc). "Meanwhile Back At Mama's" looks like it's officially peaked at #2 on Mediabase as well as on Billboard Country Airplay. Its current peak is #7 on Billboard's Hot Country Songs, and it might be able to sneak up to #6 or perhaps #5 there, but it has a 0% chance of getting to #1.
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Post by dm2081 on Aug 26, 2014 16:06:55 GMT -5
"Meanwhile Back At Mama's" looks like it's officially peaked at #2 on Mediabase as well as on Billboard Country Airplay. Its current peak is #7 on Billboard's Hot Country Songs, and it might be able to sneak up to #6 or perhaps #5 there, but it has a 0% chance of getting to #1. Unless his label has been pushing/forcing people to stream the song on Spotify or Youtube in addition to forcing radio radio to play it lol But how funny would that be if they did try that tactic?
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Marv
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Post by Marv on Aug 27, 2014 1:30:26 GMT -5
There are simply far too many male acts who sound far too similar including FGL, Chase Rice, Thomas Rhett and others, while the most staggering indictment of the country format without a doubt remains the chart run for 'I Got A Car'; there's no remotely intelligent reason for the format's most respected artist of the past three decades to be essentially cast aside from the format in favor of a slew of other artists who just sound too much alike.
That makes about as much sense as it would if top 40 radio had banned Bruce Springsteen from the format during the 1980s when it was the most-listened to format out there until late 1989 because his music was too loud; both formats have always been songwriter driven, but the dominance of drum machines and a handful of producers at top 40 radio for several years running combined with the bro-country overload currently smothering country radio simply isn't good for either format.
As previously stated, the unprecedented recurrent airplay for 'Cruise' which for some reason didn't lose spins at a typical rate for a #1 single was certainly a major culprit to the backlash, and certainly shouldn't have finished #1 for the year, as evidenced by the song which followed it to #1 @ Mediabase ('Beer Money'), which fell at a normal rate after an enormous push to #1 (675 spins) en route to winding up at #31 on the year-end Mediabase chart.
Combine the 'bro-country' deluge with the stack of horrendous singles by the format's biggest stars including 'Truck Yeah', 'Feel Like A Rockstar', '1994' and several others, and it's no wonder that folks such as KEEY PD Gregg Swedberg indicted Music Row with a single sentence ('We're going to make our own hits') as a reaction to that crappy music they've been putting out; even the condemnation of 'Burning It Down' in Billboard hasn't stopped that wretched tune from streaking up the charts as if it's the best song on the radio.
Thank goodness for Lew Dickey of Cumulus for launching the 'NASH Icon' cluster of stations which are focused on music from the previous three decades and a minimal amount of the current stuff; the current top ten is going to look a heck of a lot worse by early October, that's for certain.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 9:20:04 GMT -5
Marv- I can understand your frustration over "I Got A Car"s chart run. Unfortuneatly we all knew that day would come when the king would be shoved aside. At least NASH icons could give artists like him, Alan Jackson, Travis Tritt etc. second chances. I like the Springsteen analogy btw. And yes the whole "Cruise" fiasco was a very unfair deal but that happened in 2012-2013 not 2014 and most of the songs you mentioned(Feel Like A Rockstar, 1994 etc) were released in 2012-2013 not 2014. IMO 2014 has shown rays of hope. Artists like Chris Young and Jake Owen who were (badly) labeled bro for songs like "Aw Naw" and "Beachin" are now releasing songs like "Lonely Eyes" and "What We Aint Got". As stated above even some of the pure bros are releasing songs that mean something. Sure maybe they do all sound alike but thats just the trend right now a trend that could be wiped clean by Garth Garths return, time will tell
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Marv
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Post by Marv on Aug 27, 2014 12:16:10 GMT -5
Thnaks Zack, and welcome to the board by the way; the fact that many of these acts sound so much alike is ridiculous, which bugs the heck out of me.
I've already stated that 'Dirt' is a song I'd like a heck of a lot more if it weren't for Tyler's grating fingernails-on-the-chalkboard voice, and I specfically mentioned Trace Adkins and Montgomery Gentry off the top of my head, and I'm sure several of the folks reading this could certainly name some more males who could give that thought-provoking song the justice it deserves IMHO.
Just going back to the 1989-94 time period when country radio EXPLODED while top 40 radio IMPLODED, several eventual format male MEGA-superstars hit country radio within that richly enjoyable half-decade including Clint Black, Tracy Lawrence, Garth Brooks, Alan Jackson, Tim McGraw & Kenny Chesney, and you might as well toss Brooks & Dunn in there as well and none of those hit making machines sounded even remotely like each other.
Going back to the previous decade (2001-2010) the three biggest debut singles of that decade by the ladies were 'What I Really Meant To Say', 'Jesus, Take The Wheel', and 'Redneck Woman', three standout tracks by three unique-sounding ladies who unlike the bro-country contingent of the past 2-3 years, have zero resemblances to each other from a vocal standpoint.
There's definitely no shame for a superb song such as 'MBAM' to peak at #2, since two King George masterpieces entitled 'Run' and 'Cowboys Like Us' did likewise, not to mention what IMHO remain to this date the best songs which Trace Adkins and Kenny Chesney ever recorded, referring to 'The Rest Of Mine' and 'I Go Back, respectively.
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