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Post by .indulgecountry on Feb 21, 2015 15:31:19 GMT -5
The title "Whiskeysippi River" is giving me "Chattahoochee" teas.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2015 15:33:08 GMT -5
The title "Whiskeysippi River" is giving me "Chattahoochee" teas. "Chattahoochee" is at least an actual river name, though. I've never heard of the Whiskeysippi River
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Post by phil1996 on Feb 21, 2015 16:12:46 GMT -5
The title "Whiskeysippi River" is giving me "Chattahoochee" teas. "Chattahoochee" is at least an actual river name, though. I've never heard of the Whiskeysippi River You can hear 2 (ish) minute clips of the 2 new songs from the beginning of the video to the 4 minute mark.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2015 1:58:30 GMT -5
Stoney Creek has changed the wording of their Aircheck ad for Randy: Their #1 push will start tomorrow (which will be reflected in the Monday morning update) and continue through Sunday the 1st. Thomas Rhett should start to fall, which means "Lonely Tonight" will be Randy's only competition. I wonder if "Like A Cowboy" can re-pass it in a week's time? Or maybe Warner Bros. won't play nice, and they'll go for #1 with Blake as well? I think Blake could easily wait out Randy, but it would make sense for Warner Bros. to have their sights set on #1 for March 1st/2nd as well, since they currently have the advantage over Houser.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2015 9:08:11 GMT -5
Stoney Creek has changed the wording of their Aircheck ad for Randy: Their #1 push will start tomorrow (which will be reflected in the Monday morning update) and continue through Sunday the 1st. Thomas Rhett should start to fall, which means "Lonely Tonight" will be Randy's only competition. I wonder if "Like A Cowboy" can re-pass it in a week's time? Or maybe Warner Bros. won't play nice, and they'll go for #1 with Blake as well? I think Blake could easily wait out Randy, but it would make sense for Warner Bros. to have their sights set on #1 for March 1st/2nd as well, since they currently have the advantage over Houser. Not to mention that I'm sure Blake's team knows they can get 2 weeks out of that one if they wanted (considering how nothing directly behind it is coming up too quickly) and you know they are gonna throw out another single ASAP. I have to give it to Stoney Creek, they definitely put up a hell of a fight for their artists. That's more than can be said about half the other labels.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2015 10:54:27 GMT -5
Good for him, get this song to #1 so we can get it off the radio, I liked it at first but honestly at this point this song's chart run is seeming to run as long as "Ready Set Roll". (I know its not actually, it just feels that way to me)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2015 0:15:39 GMT -5
Today's update marked the first day of the new Mediabase week, and while Randy posted a modest gain (+51 spins, +0.257 mil in audience), he was easily outdone by Blake (+86 spins, +0.885 mil).
In addition, Blake pulled farther ahead on tonight's Billboard chart than I thought he would. "Lonely Tonight" finished at #2 with 42.7 million, whereas "Like A Cowboy" checked in at #3 but a full 3.2 million behind Blake (I was expecting the gap to be only about 1.5 million, based on my MB to BB projections).
Randy does co-host Lon Helton's countdown this coming weekend, but I don't see how Stoney Creek is gonna be able to get this one ahead of Blake on Billboard, and day 1 of the new Mediabase week was also a decisive victory for Blake Shelton and Warner Music Nashville.
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Post by dm2081 on Feb 24, 2015 0:23:02 GMT -5
Today's update marked the first day of the new Mediabase week, and while Randy posted a modest gain (+51 spins, +0.257 mil in audience), he was easily outdone by Blake (+86 spins, +0.885 mil). In addition, Blake pulled farther ahead on tonight's Billboard chart than I thought he would. "Lonely Tonight" finished at #2 with 42.7 million, whereas "Like A Cowboy" checked in at #3 but a full 3.2 million behind Blake (I was expecting the gap to be only about 1.5 million, based on my MB to BB projections). Randy does co-host Lon Helton's countdown this coming weekend, but I don't see how Stoney Creek is gonna be able to get this one ahead of Blake on Billboard, and day 1 of the new Mediabase week was also a decisive victory for Blake Shelton and Warner Music Nashville. I know this song has really racked up the weeks, but I can't really figure out why they are going for max spins this week. Like you said, Blake has a pretty big advantage to begin with, and even if his label played nice, I still don't think Randy could really catch up with Lonely Tonight. At this point, with 40 chart weeks under it's belt already, I don't see what the harm of waiting one more week to go for max rotation, other than him hosting the countdown. Anyways, it looks like this should finish with a #2 peak on both charts (just can't see them passing Blake), and that would be a pretty impressive feat for Randy and his team. This song has been on the radio for so long that I'd be willing to bet that most casual listeners would already think this was a #1 hit song. As much as I like this song and enjoy seeing it do so well on the charts, I will be glad to see this one leave soon, as it's really worn out it's welcome in my book. I'm also looking forward to hearing some new material from Randy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2015 17:59:20 GMT -5
It looks like the Stoney Creek team has pulled the plug on this one. The Aircheck ads the last couple of days said "Max Spins 4 3/2 #1" (in other words, max spins in order to be #1 on March 2), but the ad changed today: I'm not surprised that this one will come up short. It's already spent too much time in the top 5, and of course just a ton of time on the chart overall. And "Lonely Tonight" is just gaining too strongly this week. I'm now thinking that Randy will fall back to #5 on Monday's Billboard. He's barely ahead of Brett and Jason on the current Billboard chart, and I'm assuming that we'll see "Like A Cowboy" post negative updates in the next day or two. Blake should take over the #1 spot, with Thomas Rhett sliding down to #2. So it looks like #3 will be the peak for this one.
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Post by onebuffalo on Feb 28, 2015 8:55:15 GMT -5
It looks like the Stoney Creek team has pulled the plug on this one. The Aircheck ads the last couple of days said "Max Spins 4 3/2 #1" (in other words, max spins in order to be #1 on March 2), but the ad changed today: I'm not surprised that this one will come up short. It's already spent too much time in the top 5, and of course just a ton of time on the chart overall. And "Lonely Tonight" is just gaining too strongly this week. I'm now thinking that Randy will fall back to #5 on Monday's Billboard. He's barely ahead of Brett and Jason on the current Billboard chart, and I'm assuming that we'll see "Like A Cowboy" post negative updates in the next day or two. Blake should take over the #1 spot, with Thomas Rhett sliding down to #2. So it looks like #3 will be the peak for this one. Nothing to complain here. Seven years into Randy Houser's career and the How Country Feels CD has made him a consistent hitmaker. I give props to Stoney Creek for that. For awhile, it looked like Houser was going to be remembered for just his Boots On hit.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Feb 28, 2015 9:26:14 GMT -5
Great era for Houser, time to move on to the next album
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 11:29:02 GMT -5
Well Randy still posted a pretty big gain today--up 66 spins and over 800k in audience. The problem is that he's still more than 140 spins behind Blake, and he trails him by almost 4 million on MB. The Billboard gap isn't quite that big, but it's still plenty big.
And even Blake might not get to #1 by tomorrow, at least on Mediabase. Thomas Rhett is stubbornly holding on to the top spot. He leads Blake by 107 spins, although Blake has pulled ahead in audience now. Rhett outgained Blake in spins today though (+31 for Rhett, +9 for Shelton).
Blake is tracking #1 on Billboard which should easily hold, but he only has one day left to overtake Rhett for the Mediabase #1.
I'm still expecting to see a negative update tomorrow morning for Randy. I think Stoney Creek somehow saw yesterday (maybe via some real-time results that they were able to get their hands on) that their huge efforts were still coming up short...which prompted what appeared to be a "thank you radio" ad in Aircheck, or at least that's how I took its meaning.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 13:51:39 GMT -5
I never saw this as a #1 and to me Stoney Creek is going way overboard in trying to force this from a natural #5 peak to anything even close to a #1. The wording of the ad jhomes87 posted on 2/22, "They will have their #1s/It's ours 3/2," actually seemed pretty silly to me, like this is some sort of game to the label where each song has to get a turn at #1. While I am fond of this song, I'm glad it's not going to get a manufactured #1 and the past few weeks of chart manipulation in this song's favor have put a bad taste in my mouth. To me, a good label would look at the bigger picture. What matters is long-term artist development. Randy Houser's career has had a great revival with this album and very little revenue or momentum would have been lost from pulling this at #5 and moving on to new material. Sometimes I wonder if country radio ratings would be a bit higher if rotation were freshened up more frequently and we didn't have 40-week chart runs like this.
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Post by dm2081 on Feb 28, 2015 13:55:57 GMT -5
Sometimes I wonder if country radio ratings would be a bit higher if rotation were freshened up more frequently and we didn't have 40-week chart runs like this. This. It really annoys that radio thinks the average listener won't notice that they've been playing Randy's song steady since late Summer. Time to move on already! The same thing with Chase Rice and "Ready Set Roll". I honestly feel that radio will ruin most songs for people by playing the heck out of it, whereas a playlist with much more variety and new songs would be more fresh and entertaining. Just my thoughts though.
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Post by onebuffalo on Feb 28, 2015 15:16:48 GMT -5
Sometimes I wonder if country radio ratings would be a bit higher if rotation were freshened up more frequently and we didn't have 40-week chart runs like this. This. It really annoys that radio thinks the average listener won't notice that they've been playing Randy's song steady since late Summer. Time to move on already! The same thing with Chase Rice and "Ready Set Roll". I honestly feel that radio will ruin most songs for people by playing the heck out of it, whereas a playlist with much more variety and new songs would be more fresh and entertaining. Just my thoughts though. Imagine when Love Like Crazy was on the charts for a full year plus four more weeks!
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Post by sabre14 on Feb 28, 2015 15:22:43 GMT -5
This. It really annoys that radio thinks the average listener won't notice that they've been playing Randy's song steady since late Summer. Time to move on already! The same thing with Chase Rice and "Ready Set Roll". I honestly feel that radio will ruin most songs for people by playing the heck out of it, whereas a playlist with much more variety and new songs would be more fresh and entertaining. Just my thoughts though. Imagine when Love Like Crazy was on the charts for a full year plus four more weeks! That one though wasn't heard by many listeners til well in to its chart run since it had burnt through so many weeks in the 40's and 30's. Randy's song on the other hand was a steadier climb (though it did burn up too many weeks in the 30's and 20's, don't get me wrong). Lee's song and Craig Campbell's "Outta My Head" were real outliers, as they ate up a ungodly amount of weeks in the lower part of the chart and were only exposed to a portion of the listeners at that time.
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Post by onebuffalo on Feb 28, 2015 15:24:20 GMT -5
Imagine when Love Like Crazy was on the charts for a full year plus four more weeks! That one though wasn't heard by many listeners til well in to its chart run since it had burnt through so many weeks in the 40's and 30's. Randy's song on the other hand was a steadier climb (though it did burn up too many weeks in the 30's and 20's, don't get me wrong). Lee's song and Craig Campbell's "Outta My Head" were real outliers, as they are up a ungodly amount of weeks in the lower part of the chart and were only exposed to a portion of the listeners at that time. I think we can safely say Outta My Head caused Bigger Picture to shut down (too much promotion there and NOT a top ten to show for it).
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Post by sabre14 on Feb 28, 2015 15:45:34 GMT -5
That one though wasn't heard by many listeners til well in to its chart run since it had burnt through so many weeks in the 40's and 30's. Randy's song on the other hand was a steadier climb (though it did burn up too many weeks in the 30's and 20's, don't get me wrong). Lee's song and Craig Campbell's "Outta My Head" were real outliers, as they are up a ungodly amount of weeks in the lower part of the chart and were only exposed to a portion of the listeners at that time. I think we can safely say Outta My Head caused Bigger Picture to shut down (too much promotion there and NOT a top ten to show for it). I still don't believe that song not hitting the top 10 was a major fail on their part. I don't know why you hold that against Bigger Picture. Yes a top 10 finish was what they were aiming for, but a song that fell one week short for tying the longest chart run in history is a pretty remarkable accomplishment, especially for an independent label (even though they are no longer in existence). They were gunning for a record and a pretty prestigious one if you ask me. I also think they didn't shut down because of "Outta My Head's" chart run, or were you simply kidding?
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Post by onebuffalo on Feb 28, 2015 15:55:09 GMT -5
I think we can safely say Outta My Head caused Bigger Picture to shut down (too much promotion there and NOT a top ten to show for it). I still don't believe that song not hitting the top 10 was a major fail on their part. I don't know why you hold that against Bigger Picture. Yes a top 10 finish was what they were aiming for, but a song that fell one week short for tying the longest chart run in history is a pretty remarkable accomplishment, especially for an independent label (even though they are no longer in existence). They were gunning for a record and a pretty prestigious one if you ask me. I also think they didn't shut down because of "Outta My Head's" chart run, or were you simply kidding? Well, once Outta My Head went recurrent, so did Bigger Picture.
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Post by sabre14 on Feb 28, 2015 16:13:16 GMT -5
I still don't believe that song not hitting the top 10 was a major fail on their part. I don't know why you hold that against Bigger Picture. Yes a top 10 finish was what they were aiming for, but a song that fell one week short for tying the longest chart run in history is a pretty remarkable accomplishment, especially for an independent label (even though they are no longer in existence). They were gunning for a record and a pretty prestigious one if you ask me. I also think they didn't shut down because of "Outta My Head's" chart run, or were you simply kidding? Well, once Outta My Head went recurrent, so did Bigger Picture. Sorry, deleted my post trying to edit. If the label knew they were in financial trouble they wouldn't have bothered promoting the song for 54 weeks. Many factors played into the label shuttering, and "Outta My Head" was not "the" reason the label went under. "Outta My Head" went recurrent 6-7 months before the label shut down. Anyway, I agree about country radio's ongoing love for marathon chart runs and what a burden they are. It hasn't always been like this. Even back 10-12 years ago, chart runs that lasted +30 weeks were considered remarkable. Many times a song would rise fast to the top 30 and fall off after a dozen weeks. I don't quite know if country radio's ratings would be higher or significantly higher (doubtful, IMO) if there was a lower average of charting weeks, but in terms of devoted listeners, it certainly doesn't help having this many ridiculously long chart runs at the same time.
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Post by onebuffalo on Feb 28, 2015 16:16:03 GMT -5
Well, once Outta My Head went recurrent, so did Bigger Picture. Sorry, deleted my post trying to edit. If the label knew they were in financial trouble they wouldn't have bothered promoting the song for 54 weeks. Many factors played into the label shuttering, and "Outta My Head" was not "the" reason the label went under. "Outta My Head" went recurrent 6-7 months before the label shut down. Anyway, I agree about country radio's ongoing love for marathon chart runs. It hasn't always been like this. Even back 10-12 years ago, chart runs that lasted +30 weeks were considered remarkable. Many times a song would rise fast to the top 30 and fall off after a dozen weeks. I don't quite know if country radio's ratings would be higher or significantly higher (doubtful, IMO), but in terms of devoted listeners, it certainly doesn't help having this many ridiculously long chart runs at the same time. I wish there was a way of speeding up the charts. Back in the 1970s and 1980s (even during most of the 1990s), an artist could have three hits per year. Now, it takes about a year and a half to get three hits (if they're lucky).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2015 12:10:22 GMT -5
It's quite clear that "Like A Cowboy" was kept alive well past its natural peak. On the Billboard Indicator chart, it was last bulleted on February 9 (tracking week of Feb 2 thru Feb 8) when it gained 65 spins and inched up a spot to #6. The following week, it fell to #7 on Indicator with a loss of 48 spins, and then on February 23 (tracking week of Feb 16 thru Feb 22), Randy lost 236 spins on BB Indicator. And it dropped another 127 spins there last week.
The label was able to keep it going on the main chart in hopes of a #1 (probably on Mediabase only, though, as they never really stood a chance on Billboard), but at 41 weeks old, this one had just been out there a bit too long. And now it's falling hard on Mediabase; it lost 427 spins and 2.6 million in audience in today's update alone, which might be the biggest single-day decrease that I can recall.
At this rate, it'll probably go recurrent all the way from #4 on the next Billboard chart.
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Post by dm2081 on Mar 5, 2015 14:00:25 GMT -5
I hope they wait a little bit before releasing a brand new debut single. I fear if they put one out in the next few weeks, radio might be a little bit tired of Randy because of this song's extended chart run, and might be a little more reluctant to play it than if the new single came out in early Summer.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2015 14:10:40 GMT -5
I hope they wait a little bit before releasing a brand new debut single. I fear if they put one out in the next few weeks, radio might be a little bit tired of Randy because of this song's extended chart run, and might be a little more reluctant to play it than if the new single came out in early Summer. Agreed. I think waiting until May or June to release a lead single would be a good idea. I don't think it'd be a huge issue if one was released near the end of the month or sometime in April, but I do think that May or June would be the smarter play for Stoney Creek.
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Post by Cody Wants Out... on Mar 5, 2015 17:43:14 GMT -5
This and "Power of a Song" are among my absolute favorites from this album and I am simply ecstatic that this is a single. Really hope this can make it to the top 10 by the Holidays. I'm not a huge fan of quoting myself, but does anyone know when this actually hit the top 10?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2015 18:02:41 GMT -5
^This made the top 10 on the Mediabase chart finalized on 12/14 and the following week on the Billboard chart finalized on 12/22, so it was a 31-week climb into the top 10 on Billboard.
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Post by Cody Wants Out... on Mar 5, 2015 18:31:53 GMT -5
So...not only did it make the top 10 by the Holidays, it also went further to peak in the top 3 afterwards. Awesome!
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