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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 30, 2014 8:09:48 GMT -5
POP: 21 18 DEMI LOVATO Really Don't Care f/Cher Lloyd 4768 3940 828 23.411
+97 Spins -142 Bullet +0.590 Audience
HOT AC: 61 49 DEMI LOVATO Really Don't Care f/Cher Lloyd 156 63 93 0.499
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Post by musiciscool on Jun 30, 2014 9:32:36 GMT -5
What is going on with her bullet? It keeps getting smaller each day, even though her bullet is very good.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jul 1, 2014 5:25:15 GMT -5
POP: 21 18 DEMI LOVATO Really Don't Care f/Cher Lloyd 4923 4027 896 24.198
+155 Spins +68 Bullet +0.787 Audience
HOT AC: 60 49 DEMI LOVATO Really Don't Care f/Cher Lloyd 166 68 98 0.531
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Jul 2, 2014 1:02:13 GMT -5
looks like Rick Dees will soon be spinning Demi's new song on his weekly Hot Adult music charts. I'm pretty sure it's on the Hit Radio list, but I preffer the first one I mentioned.
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Post by musiciscool on Jul 2, 2014 9:49:14 GMT -5
POP: 21 17 DEMI LOVATO Really Don't Care f/Cher Lloyd 5084 4153 931 25.322
+161 Spins +35 Bullet +1.124 Audience
HOT AC: 61 50 DEMI LOVATO Really Don't Care f/Cher Lloyd 142 68 74 0.593
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Post by Fancy on Jul 3, 2014 5:56:45 GMT -5
makes a big leap to 37 on the hot 100 this week!
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Post by Az Paynter on Jul 3, 2014 6:59:41 GMT -5
POP: 21 16 DEMI LOVATO Really Don't Care f/Cher Lloyd 5245 4283 962 26.256
+161 Spins +31 Bullet +0.934 Audience
HOT AC: 60 50 DEMI LOVATO Really Don't Care f/Cher Lloyd 148 83 65 0.597
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Jul 4, 2014 2:28:34 GMT -5
I hope the Billboard Hot 100 finally goes back to the artists and not the record companies.
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Post by josh on Jul 4, 2014 2:37:37 GMT -5
I hope the Billboard Hot 100 finally goes back to the artists and not the record companies. ???
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Post by Az Paynter on Jul 4, 2014 5:52:24 GMT -5
POP: 21 16 DEMI LOVATO Really Don't Care f/Cher Lloyd 5311 4459 852 26.740
+66 Spins -110 Bullet +0.484 Audience
HOT AC: 56 49 DEMI LOVATO Really Don't Care f/Cher Lloyd 153 103 50 0.598
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Jul 5, 2014 1:28:17 GMT -5
Demi leaps from #83 to #37 on the Billboard Hot 100 this week! As far as I'm concerned the Billboard Hot 100 is nowadays a completely irrevelant music source. If you follow that list your ipod would be full of rap and country songs you never hear on the radio. I'm a huge fan so I'm glad for her. I hope she goes to number one.
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Post by nick64 on Jul 5, 2014 1:52:45 GMT -5
If you follow that list your ipod would be full of rap and country songs you never hear on the radio. You hear them if you're listening to rap or country stations...
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 5, 2014 2:47:32 GMT -5
If you follow that list your ipod would be full of rap and country songs you never hear on the radio. You hear them if you're listening to rap or country stations... Yeah, that aforementioned comment literally makes no sense. It seems to imply that the Hot 100 is supposed to be based entirely off what radio is playing, and only from certain genres, no less. It's supposed to be comprehensive of everything, and that's what it is. I don't understand the criticisms.
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Post by Dielawn on Jul 5, 2014 6:38:32 GMT -5
So pressed that Made in the USA flopped and this is smashing. Reflection of music trends. Pure-pop music was way OUT last year and now here we are and it seems like it just took a year off and it's back on radio now
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Post by Dielawn on Jul 5, 2014 6:44:49 GMT -5
Cher Lloyd's awkward in the video.
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Post by Fancy on Jul 5, 2014 6:45:59 GMT -5
Cher Lloyd's awkward in the video. and the song
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Post by Dielawn on Jul 6, 2014 0:43:56 GMT -5
Cher Lloyd's awkward in the video. and the song Naw her verse goes hard but her facial expressions and gestures in the video are just stiff
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Post by kanimal on Jul 6, 2014 1:12:45 GMT -5
Demi leaps from #83 to #37 on the Billboard Hot 100 this week! As far as I'm concerned the Billboard Hot 100 is nowadays a completely irrevelant music source. If you follow that list your ipod would be full of rap and country songs you never hear on the radio. I'm a huge fan so I'm glad for her. I hope she goes to number one. Save for "Somethin' Bad," there is not one song in the Top 20 that is not at least a moderate hit on pop radio. Chandelier, which is the weakest radio performer of the songs in the top 20, is #23 on pop radio - so it's still a solid performer. So even if we act as if pop radio is the end-all, be-all--and there's no reason we should be acting like that on a chart that is supposed to represent all media and all genres--19/20 songs in the Top 20 would pass that test. There are some things that bug me about the chart--I don't like that parody videos can count towards the original song's streaming score--but I at least see the rationale to all of the chart's scoring criteria.
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Jul 6, 2014 5:57:18 GMT -5
Billboard Hot 100 is a wacked chart. If you've been following it, you'll notice some really odd movements with no real explanation. ex: Lana Del Rey debuts "West Coast" at #15 and fall off the next week. Michael jackson returns with Billie Jean at #12 and falls off the next week. The most recent has been that wack of a job, PSy with Snoop Dog. It debuts in the top 20 and falls off the very next week. early on in the year; some song debuted at #1 and fell off 99 positions the very next week. Something stinks on that chart. Plus if you follow that list, then you are #1. probly way behind as far as new music is concerned or #2. Really missing out on some great music from Alt and Rock charts. I'll stick to the media base chart which looks more like the Billboard Hot 100 looked like in the 80's and 90's. It made more sense and contained way better music.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jul 6, 2014 6:06:37 GMT -5
POP: 18 15 DEMI LOVATO Really Don't Care f/Cher Lloyd 5674 4661 1013 29.001
+204 Spins +113 Bullet +1.095 Audience
HOT AC: 54 49 DEMI LOVATO Really Don't Care f/Cher Lloyd 166 101 65 0.629
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Post by josh on Jul 6, 2014 15:21:31 GMT -5
Billboard Hot 100 is a wacked chart. If you've been following it, you'll notice some really odd movements with no real explanation. ex: Lana Del Rey debuts "West Coast" at #15 and fall off the next week. Michael jackson returns with Billie Jean at #12 and falls off the next week. The most recent has been that wack of a job, PSy with Snoop Dog. It debuts in the top 20 and falls off the very next week. early on in the year; some song debuted at #1 and fell off 99 positions the very next week. Something stinks on that chart. Plus if you follow that list, then you are #1. probly way behind as far as new music is concerned or #2. Really missing out on some great music from Alt and Rock charts. I'll stick to the media base chart which looks more like the Billboard Hot 100 looked like in the 80's and 90's. It made more sense and contained way better music. if you don't understand those movements then clearly you aren't following the harts well at all. And what song dropped off from #1? Pretty sure it was only #9 or #10 or something not #1
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Jul 6, 2014 17:57:02 GMT -5
Rachel Reilly
I edited this part. It seems that song I was talking about wasn't actually on the chart, but one of those extras they post at the end of the video compilation. Apparantly it never entered the charts. That still doesn't change the fact that the whole chart is wacked.
Yeah , the whole Billboard Hot 100 is looking more and more like The UK Hot 100. Songs debut at thier highest position and then just hang around forever by moving up and down during the year. What does that say about the charts nowadays?
I'll find that song for you and post the link.
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Post by kanimal on Jul 6, 2014 18:18:57 GMT -5
Billboard Hot 100 is a wacked chart. If you've been following it, you'll notice some really odd movements with no real explanation. ex: Lana Del Rey debuts "West Coast" at #15 and fall off the next week. Michael jackson returns with Billie Jean at #12 and falls off the next week. The most recent has been that wack of a job, PSy with Snoop Dog. It debuts in the top 20 and falls off the very next week. early on in the year; some song debuted at #1 and fell off 99 positions the very next week. Something stinks on that chart. Plus if you follow that list, then you are #1. probly way behind as far as new music is concerned or #2. Really missing out on some great music from Alt and Rock charts. I'll stick to the media base chart which looks more like the Billboard Hot 100 looked like in the 80's and 90's. It made more sense and contained way better music. West Coast had a ton of sales the week it came out. It was selling faster--and getting more buzz--than virtually every song out there. It deserved to be #15. By week two, no one was buying it, and no one was talking about it. It deserved to fall out. Why is that hard to understand? With Psy, the video received a ton of views because Psy is a music video sensation. In that given week, it WAS one of the top songs in the country. The week passed, people lost interest in the video, and it was no longer a top song. Again, no longer complicated. As for your other points: -- Who is looking exclusively at the Hot 100 as their source of new music? You're looking it for what it is -- an assessment of which songs are the biggest in the country. That said, you NEVER would have been exposed to the "new music" like the songs you mentioned if you didn't follow the Hot 100. Those didn't make a dent on Mediabase's pop radio airplay chart. You also wouldn't have a full appreciation for how big Sia's "Chandelier" or Carrie & Miranda's "Somethin' Bad" are right now. -- Mediabase is a radio airplay chart. And, actually, if you focused exclusively on the pop airplay chart, you would also miss out on all those great rock and alt songs -- to an even greater extent than on the Hot 100, because *NONE* would appear there. The biggest rock & alternative songs can and do appear on the Hot 100. And if you're going to look at the Mediabase airplay chart for rock and alternative, why couldn't you also look at the Billboard charts for Rock and Alternative? I honestly don't even know what you're talking about here - Billboard covers all the same genres as Mediabase and has many more variations of the charts. -- In the 80s and 90s, radio was a main source of listening to music. You could only buy singles for like $6.99 at your local Sam Goody. There was no iTunes or YouTube or Spotify - the radio was your source for music. Radio is not the only source for music in the present. In fact, for someone like me who lives in the city and thus doesn't drive anywhere, it's an increasingly IRRELEVANT source for music. Save for when I go into a store or restaurant that is playing Z100, when would I ever be listening to the radio? Not saying radio is unimportant - it still reaches millions of people, influences sales and is a great way to keep on the pulse of music. But since it's not at all the only source of engaging with music in today's day and age, why should it be the only source of chart data?
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Jul 6, 2014 19:40:58 GMT -5
@kanibal.
Your explanation further suppprts my belief that todays music is just a passing fad if people lose interest in it so soon.
As for your other points:
knibal
Right there you are complately wrong.
Media base charts charts will always be supirior to the Billboard ones. They do have an extensive versions of charts that covers all 100 positions, not just the top 50, So those who follow it will always be more up to date on the newer singles and cd cuts comming out then those who just depend on Billboard Hot 100. Billboard does have alot of influence on what music listen and buy ,but are gearing them towards the wrong ones. Country songs about drinking and rap songs about "moving that doe" are doing nothing for todays youth. Billbord Hot 100 has been trying to boycott Alt and rock music from the chart for the longest time and I don't concider Coldplay or U2 songs making drastic appearances here and there ; as Billboard featuring the best of alt/rock. Cage The Elephant and The Pretty Reckless held the number one positions on Rock and Alt for multiple weeks and never even made a dent on the Hot 100. You keep believeing what you wanna believe, but the truth is Billboard chooses what songs it wants to let it and why and It's usually to sell some kind of brand or idea for the public. and for the most part, most of the songs on Hot 100 are not even as radio friendly as the ones on other genre charts like AAA, ALT, Rock even Dance.
...and if you didn'y know, alot of times the record companies will pay to feature certain songs on the charts to see if they will catch on or not. That is really the reason they fall off drastically after only a handfull of weeks. Because noone really eneded up liking them.
I quote an ex DEE jay from some undisclosed radio satation who told me. "the record companies are so convinced that they hold the listening public by the hand; that they jokingly pick out the worst of the worst for the chart and revel at how the public eats it up , just because its fed to them." That's pretty cold if you ask me. After all we are the ones who make the music industry what it is , but it doesn't surprise me, since its usually ran by a bunch of greedy CEOs that want nothing more than to fatten thier pockets.
Anyway to close out this rant, I say the Indie movement is the future of music. At least the people can finally choose what they wanna listen to and not what's fed to them.
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Post by nick64 on Jul 6, 2014 20:23:36 GMT -5
Oh my god. Let's go over to kworb's site and look at your glorious Mediabase chart. The #1 song on Alternative radio right now, The Black Keys' "Fever", is currently ranked #115 in overall audience and also is not found in the iTunes Top 200. Clearly, alternative radio is not reaching a big audience and since we just looked at Mediabase, that is obviously not Billboard's doing. I'm gonna take a look at the #1 songs on Country and Urban on that list now, respectively Jake Owen's "Beachin'" and Lil Wayne's "Believe Me". "Beachin'" is #15 in overall audience and is #22 on iTunes. "Believe Me" is #36 in overall audience and is #38 on iTunes. I just proved to you that the top country and urban songs are more popular than the top alternative song without mentioning one Billboard chart. Because of this, it's only logical that the superior popularity is reflected in the Hot 100, is it not? Billboard does not pick their favorite songs for the Hot 100. It is a measure of which songs are the most popular during a particular week, determined by the amount of digital downloads a song has received, the number of people a song has reached on the radio, and the amount of times people have gone on a site like YouTube or Spotify and played a song for themselves. No matter how good you may think a song is, if it isn't excelling in one of these areas, it should not be represented in an overall popularity chart, simple as that. The Hot 100 was not created as a tool for finding new music. It was created to measure song popularity, and that's what it does. Now as for your claim that labels pay to have songs on charts, you definitely misread that quote. It's saying labels pick bad songs for the charts, not that they pay for these bad songs to be on the chart. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make exactly, but I do know that it has nothing to do with Demi or "Really Don't Care", so let's stop this arguement here.
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Jul 6, 2014 21:27:14 GMT -5
I love Demi's song. Nothing I said applys to her at all. I flew to Mexico just to meet her and see her in concert. Just a rant Some comment I read , got me started on.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jul 7, 2014 8:21:03 GMT -5
POP: 18 15 DEMI LOVATO Really Don't Care f/Cher Lloyd 5817 4768 1049 29.979
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HOT AC: 49 48 DEMI LOVATO Really Don't Care f/Cher Lloyd 170 156 14 0.642
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Post by Az Paynter on Jul 8, 2014 5:30:23 GMT -5
POP: 18 14 DEMI LOVATO Really Don't Care f/Cher Lloyd 5967 4924 1043 31.034
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HOT AC: 52 48 DEMI LOVATO Really Don't Care f/Cher Lloyd 171 121 50 0.613
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Post by Hussy on Jul 8, 2014 21:16:47 GMT -5
if only sales would increase a bit
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Post by Az Paynter on Jul 9, 2014 5:46:09 GMT -5
POP: 17 13 DEMI LOVATO Really Don't Care f/Cher Lloyd 6088 5080 1008 31.837
+121 Spins -35 Bullet +0.803 Audience
HOT AC: 50 46 DEMI LOVATO Really Don't Care f/Cher Lloyd 172 142 30 0.591
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