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Post by Green Baron on Jul 6, 2014 15:44:18 GMT -5
They were outliers in the general frame of things. Every band releases a "poppy" song. Doesn't make them a poppy band. Well in that case, Nickelback and 3 Doors Down aren't poppy either. Sounds ridiculous right? well that's the same deal with Linkin Park. Pop isn't a genre. The way it works is if your music appeals to the pop crowd, then it's pop music. In fact, this is their first studio album without a pop crossover. They've always been a pop appealing band. Therefore, its hypocritical for them to criticize current alternative bands who also appeal to the pop crowd. Ur right, Nickelback and 3dd are not poppy
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Post by onefrayedrepublic on Jul 8, 2014 20:57:53 GMT -5
post-Meteora is poppy, yes, but no one called Crawling, numb, In the End pop-rock, they were always alt-metal before 2007. Since then, they've been electro rock before back to alt metal with this album. You're saying they never did anything poppy before then? Breaking the Habit, My December? Pushing Me Away -- best song of Hybrid Theory, and Numb, -- second best song off Meteora were both exceedingly poppy, no? Final Masquerade would be a nice single after this, but Until It's Gone is the best song on the album, so odds aren't good for additional radio success from this venture. EDIT ADD: Churches or whatever the hell they're called should be careful. A band as irrelevant and evanescent as themselves shouldn't go picking fights with the big dogs. The pace is just too fast, they just won't last...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 20:59:55 GMT -5
You're saying they never did anything poppy before then? Breaking the Habit, My December? Pushing Me Away -- best song of Hybrid Theory, and Numb, -- second best song off Meteora were both exceedingly poppy, no? Final Masquerade would be a nice single after this, but Until It's Gone is the best song on the album, so odds aren't good for additional radio success from this venture. take it you don't like heavy guitars
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Post by onefrayedrepublic on Jul 8, 2014 21:05:19 GMT -5
Pushing Me Away -- best song of Hybrid Theory, and Numb, -- second best song off Meteora were both exceedingly poppy, no? Final Masquerade would be a nice single after this, but Until It's Gone is the best song on the album, so odds aren't good for additional radio success from this venture. take it you don't like heavy guitars I like pretty much everything LP has ever released except the heavy songs on Minutes to Midnight. I regularly listen to all of their albums in order no skip. One of the great bands of our time. I've always had a special liking for their more melodic stuff though.
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Post by Lordef†ones on Jul 10, 2014 19:35:30 GMT -5
If Linkin Park is pop because of "Breaking the Habit" and "My December" then Deftones is pop for "Sextape"
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Post by krissirge on Jul 21, 2014 14:45:56 GMT -5
I like the singles from this album, and from the previous one. Sure, they dont touch stuff from their first two albums, but this will continue the fact that I have songs from every album on them I really like (except for A Thousand Suns....biggest disappointment of the decade I guess) Shame that the top 40 radios have been ignoring this album...
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Post by Rich P. on Jul 21, 2014 16:50:53 GMT -5
Wow, the first half of The hunting Party really made me wonder what the hell was going on. It got a lot better, but I think I'll be skipping the first half when I listen. Here's my thoughts, please convince me I'm crazy:
C- Keys To The Kingdom B- All For Nothing B Guilty All The Same C The Summoning C- War B Wastelands A Until It's Gone A- Rebellion A+ Mark The Graves A- Drawbar B Final Masquerade B+ A Line In The Sand
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Post by Green Baron on Jul 21, 2014 16:58:59 GMT -5
The first half is so heavy and good.
Keys to the Kingdom - A+ All For Nothing - A+ Guilty All the Same - A+ The Summoning - (Interlude) War - A- Wastelands - B Until It's Gone - C+ Rebellion - A Mark the Graves - C+ Drawbar - C+ Final Masquerade - B+ A Line in the Sand - A
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Post by Cody on Jul 21, 2014 17:03:53 GMT -5
I don't understand why some people classify "heavy" and "good" as synonyms.
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Post by Green Baron on Jul 21, 2014 17:32:23 GMT -5
I don't understand why some people classify "heavy" and "good" as synonyms. Not saying they are, but the heaviest tracks are the better ones on this album. That's not always true though...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 17:35:31 GMT -5
agree
all for nothing is a damn good song, if linkin park were entirely focused on active that would be a fine single choice
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Jul 21, 2014 17:50:01 GMT -5
I don't understand why some people classify "heavy" and "good" as synonyms. While I don't necessarily think that, personal bias has me usually thinking "heavy" is "better."
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Post by Green Baron on Jul 24, 2014 19:18:27 GMT -5
This has a bullet again, though I doubt for long. This peaked lower than Castle of Glass, a THIRD SINGLE, did ONE YEAR AGO.
Final Masquerade next, please.
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Post by onefrayedrepublic on Jul 24, 2014 20:38:59 GMT -5
Well Castle of Glass is pretty fucking awesome.
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Post by Lordef†ones on Jul 25, 2014 14:16:12 GMT -5
It's just that they do heavy better is why heavy is good.
Keys to the Kingdom - A- All For Nothing - A Guilty All the Same - B The Summoning - (Interlude) War - B Wastelands - B+ Until It's Gone - B- Rebellion - A+ Mark the Graves - B- Drawbar - C+ Final Masquerade - A A Line in the Sand - A-
Overall: B+. They definitely got their heaviness back and have put out some compelling material with some really enticing collaborations. Though Tom Morello's talents are wasted on this album and I can honestly do without some of the studio-talking bits.
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Post by Superundercover on Jul 27, 2014 15:10:26 GMT -5
Top 5 on Active:
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Post by bkeysfan on Jul 27, 2014 17:18:12 GMT -5
They were outliers in the general frame of things. Every band releases a "poppy" song. Doesn't make them a poppy band. Well in that case, Nickelback and 3 Doors Down aren't poppy either. Sounds ridiculous right? well that's the same deal with Linkin Park. Pop isn't a genre. The way it works is if your music appeals to the pop crowd, then it's pop music. In fact, this is their first studio album without a pop crossover. They've always been a pop appealing band. Therefore, its hypocritical for them to criticize current alternative bands who also appeal to the pop crowd. Umm, I cannot imagine any of the songs from their recent albums crossing over. Castle of Glass I never heard on pop. A Thousand Suns either. I thought their last pop song was BTH.
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Post by Green Baron on Jul 27, 2014 17:19:51 GMT -5
Well in that case, Nickelback and 3 Doors Down aren't poppy either. Sounds ridiculous right? well that's the same deal with Linkin Park. Pop isn't a genre. The way it works is if your music appeals to the pop crowd, then it's pop music. In fact, this is their first studio album without a pop crossover. They've always been a pop appealing band. Therefore, its hypocritical for them to criticize current alternative bands who also appeal to the pop crowd. Umm, I cannot imagine any of the songs from their recent albums crossing over. Castle of Glass I never heard on pop. A Thousand Suns either. I thought their last pop song was BTH. What I've Done hit #7 New Divide #6 Shadow of the Day #15 The Catalyst #27 Waiting For the End had a Pop radio push, but it faltered. I did hear Burn it Down a bit on Z100 after Christmas though. (#30).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2014 17:24:58 GMT -5
Umm, I cannot imagine any of the songs from their recent albums crossing over. Castle of Glass I never heard on pop. A Thousand Suns either. I thought their last pop song was BTH. What I've Done hit #7 New Divide #6 Shadow of the Day #15 The Catalyst #27 Waiting For the End had a Pop radio push, but it faltered. I did hear Burn it Down a bit on Z100 after Christmas though. (#30). that's hot 100 peaks
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Post by Green Baron on Jul 27, 2014 17:44:16 GMT -5
What I've Done hit #7 New Divide #6 Shadow of the Day #15 The Catalyst #27 Waiting For the End had a Pop radio push, but it faltered. I did hear Burn it Down a bit on Z100 after Christmas though. (#30). that's hot 100 peaks I know
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2014 17:55:14 GMT -5
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Post by Cody on Jul 27, 2014 19:19:43 GMT -5
Well in that case, Nickelback and 3 Doors Down aren't poppy either. Sounds ridiculous right? well that's the same deal with Linkin Park. Pop isn't a genre. The way it works is if your music appeals to the pop crowd, then it's pop music. In fact, this is their first studio album without a pop crossover. They've always been a pop appealing band. Therefore, its hypocritical for them to criticize current alternative bands who also appeal to the pop crowd. Umm, I cannot imagine any of the songs from their recent albums crossing over. Castle of Glass I never heard on pop. A Thousand Suns either. I thought their last pop song was BTH. "Burn It Down" and "Waiting For The End" both went top 25 on CHR.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2014 12:27:46 GMT -5
done
final masquerade has a video, maybe they'll try a third time
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Post by Web on Jul 29, 2014 14:02:38 GMT -5
Final Masquerade won't do anything notable on Alt if it's released. Until It's Gone had the best shot but since it followed up Guilty the whole era was kinda killed out of the gate.
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Post by Green Baron on Jul 29, 2014 14:05:09 GMT -5
They should have released Until It's Gone first, and maybe things would have been different.
They didn't know Alt radio would easily drop them despite their huge name.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2014 14:11:37 GMT -5
Final Masquerade is much better song IMO tho
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Post by Green Baron on Jul 29, 2014 14:12:28 GMT -5
Final Masquerade is much better song IMO tho A lot better. Until It's Gone is the worst song. Maybe they should have done Final Masquerade first.
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Post by Lordef†ones on Jul 29, 2014 19:56:02 GMT -5
Final Masquearade is one of the best songs on the album so hopefully it's another #1 for them (assuming Until It's Gone hits #1)
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Post by Green Baron on Jul 29, 2014 20:05:42 GMT -5
Final Masquearade is one of the best songs on the album so hopefully it's another #1 for them (assuming Until It's Gone hits #1) Uhh... Until it's gone has been dead for awhile now
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Post by Cody on Jul 29, 2014 23:06:50 GMT -5
Final Masquearade is one of the best songs on the album so hopefully it's another #1 for them (assuming Until It's Gone hits #1) Uhh... Until it's gone has been dead for awhile now He's obviously talking about Active.
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