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Post by M1tchD on Jun 26, 2014 21:26:57 GMT -5
I'm kind of ashamed to admit that this is quickly becoming one of my favorite songs on pop radio.
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Post by onefrayedrepublic on Jun 26, 2014 22:24:42 GMT -5
Don't feel bad Mitch, it's fantastic.
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Post by kanimal on Jun 26, 2014 23:16:53 GMT -5
Empire should drop out of the Top 40 as early as tomorrow, which opens the door for a new song.
Even though this is #42 right now, it'll probably leapfrog "Cool Kids" to take that #40 spot.
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Post by M1tchD on Jun 26, 2014 23:26:55 GMT -5
Don't feel bad Mitch, it's fantastic. It's not fantastic. I know the song sucks. But there's something about it that really draws me in and makes me want to play it again and again.
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Post by onefrayedrepublic on Jun 26, 2014 23:41:18 GMT -5
Fantastic
1. conceived or appearing as if conceived by an unrestrained imagination; odd and remarkable; bizarre; grotesque: fantastic rock formations; fantastic designs.
I think it works
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Post by Lahey's Lucky Star on Jun 27, 2014 8:46:13 GMT -5
Pop: 48 41 FLORIDA-GEORGIA LINE This Is How We Roll f/J.Derulo 913 543 370 5.764
+ 53 spins = bullet + 0.342 Audience
HAC: 52 41 FLORIDA-GEORGIA LINE This Is How We Roll f/J.Derulo 264 153 111 1.694
+ 6 spins - 6 bullet - 0.032 Audience
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Post by 14887fan on Jun 27, 2014 12:51:52 GMT -5
Brb slicin' + dicin' my wrists.
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Post by Kurt on Jun 27, 2014 12:56:59 GMT -5
Highest "potential" score (89) in today's pop callout data, with 77.5% familiarity.
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Post by Lahey's Lucky Star on Jun 27, 2014 13:16:58 GMT -5
I'm in awe myself.
Good thing KIIS dodged "Cruise" so I don't have to hear this on the radio for a while.
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Post by jjose712 on Jun 27, 2014 14:58:05 GMT -5
This is not going to be Cruise, at day 12 Cruise was number 32 with 1273 spins, at day 12 This is how we roll is 41 with 913. This is not climbing (not even remotely) at the same pace.
I think it will be a decent hit for them (specially given the fact that country hits on pop are really scarce lately) but not on Cruise level.
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Post by kanimal on Jun 27, 2014 17:23:29 GMT -5
This is not going to be Cruise, at day 12 Cruise was number 32 with 1273 spins, at day 12 This is how we roll is 41 with 913. This is not climbing (not even remotely) at the same pace. I think it will be a decent hit for them (specially given the fact that country hits on pop are really scarce lately) but not on Cruise level. -- It ended up being a major hit by Billboard standards, but it was nowhere near as disruptive and game-changing within country. Cruise was a monster that made mainstream waves even before the remix. I don't know too many people outside of country/outside of the FGL fanbase who knew this one (for instance, I've seen people write about this song without any awareness that the 2nd half of Jason DeRulo's contribution is him singing over the part that originally belonged to Luke Bryan). -- It's not as good. And while I obviously think Jason DeRulo is more talented than Nelly as a vocalist, his contribution is nowhere near as smooth and effective. Plus, Nelly already had credibility in this regard due to "Over and Over." -- It's not fresh. The fact that I referenced a Nelly/Tim McGraw song from a decade ago proves how rare these country-pop collabs are, and that helped Cruise seem like something new. This is the same old thing. All that said, this song is about to go Top 40, and will surely go higher than that. And it still CAN make an impact if it lands some support from the major blue state markets.
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Post by Libra on Jun 27, 2014 20:37:18 GMT -5
Highest "potential" score (89) in today's pop callout data, with 77.5% familiarity. That was the case last week as well - as I pointed out in the Callout thread, its scores haven't changed at all this week, and its scores outside of overall Pop score and Familiarity are all exact solid numbers: No portions/decimals. The former has happened before, but the latter is...very strange to say the least. Sucks that it looks like this is going to do something after all. I still wouldn't be sure that it would if Jerrod's song had taken off and/or Jason's own "Wiggle" didn't look like it's stalling in spins.
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Post by jjose712 on Jun 28, 2014 5:24:40 GMT -5
In terms of billboard success Cruise and This is how we roll are quite similar both being top 20 before the remix, while other FGL songs like Round Here or Stay didn't get that higher (but both considerably higher than country number 1 average).
To be honest i think Over and over was way more genunine than this, i don't know the story, but Over and over looked like a experiment trying to mix to genres that generally don't mix at all. I didn't like that song, but it seemed more authentic that the typical pop mix adding someone who is popular in the genre
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Post by onefrayedrepublic on Jul 14, 2014 0:58:40 GMT -5
I can't believe how this is underperforming. I'm getting nervous that both this and Drink To That All Night are going to flame out. Ugh. 2 of the best songs of the year. Maybe radio is tired of Derulo after that Wiggle debacle.
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Post by kanimal on Jul 14, 2014 1:10:12 GMT -5
I can't believe how this is underperforming. I'm getting nervous that both this and Drink To That All Night are going to flame out. Ugh. 2 of the best songs of the year. Maybe radio is tired of Derulo after that Wiggle debacle. Doesn't help that Florida Georgia Line seems 100% focused on pushing new single "Dirt" at country. I don't blame them - Dirt could be a MAJOR blockbuster at country (and is selling well--far better than the This is How We Roll Remix--period), while I'm not sure this was ever going to be more than a moderate hit at pop. But the reality is that the strategy isn't helping. While I believe FGL might have also been pushing something like "Get Your Shine On" or "Round Here" at country when the "Cruise" remix was released, they were still actively pushing the pop version of Cruise as well (with a video, etc). They also performed it at least once on a big stage together at a time when such a performance was valuable; they never really performed this specific version with DeRulo, and the performance they did have with him (he joined them for the original This is How We Roll, they joined him for his songs) came before this was even shipped to radio and thus before it could make a real impact. If "This is How We Roll" did anything, it put the kibosh on "Drink to that All Night" gaining any sort of steam at pop. We laughed about how bad the song was, but it actually got some early airplay VERY quickly when it came out. Then the TIHWR remix came out, and the Jerrod Niemann song died.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2014 1:32:54 GMT -5
I can't believe how this is underperforming. The callout scores have taken quite a dive in the past few weeks. I remember when it was near the top 5 in the currents and it's now at #20. Perhaps, overall reception wasn't as well as expected? I'm actually quite shocked that it's a bit of a brick wall since I expected this to take off.
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Post by onefrayedrepublic on Jul 14, 2014 3:13:29 GMT -5
I can't believe how this is underperforming. I'm getting nervous that both this and Drink To That All Night are going to flame out. Ugh. 2 of the best songs of the year. Maybe radio is tired of Derulo after that Wiggle debacle. Doesn't help that Florida Georgia Line seems 100% focused on pushing new single "Dirt" at country. I don't blame them - Dirt could be a MAJOR blockbuster at country (and is selling well--far better than the This is How We Roll Remix--period), while I'm not sure this was ever going to be more than a moderate hit at pop. But the reality is that the strategy isn't helping. While I believe FGL might have also been pushing something like "Get Your Shine On" or "Round Here" at country when the "Cruise" remix was released, they were still actively pushing the pop version of Cruise as well (with a video, etc). They also performed it at least once on a big stage together at a time when such a performance was valuable; they never really performed this specific version with DeRulo, and the performance they did have with him (he joined them for the original This is How We Roll, they joined him for his songs) came before this was even shipped to radio and thus before it could make a real impact. If "This is How We Roll" did anything, it put the kibosh on "Drink to that All Night" gaining any sort of steam at pop. We laughed about how bad the song was, but it actually got some early airplay VERY quickly when it came out. Then the TIHWR remix came out, and the Jerrod Niemann song died. Drink To That All Night was [is] great and hit #50 on pop. Unfortunately stations are more willing to play Derulo than Pitbull at the moment, only reason this is the hit and not Niemann's song. That said, at least one of these should hit, they're both excellent. And in such a terrible year for pop music we need some fun refreshing hits.
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Post by dajire4 on Jul 14, 2014 6:34:31 GMT -5
Doesn't help that Florida Georgia Line seems 100% focused on pushing new single "Dirt" at country. I don't blame them - Dirt could be a MAJOR blockbuster at country (and is selling well--far better than the This is How We Roll Remix--period), while I'm not sure this was ever going to be more than a moderate hit at pop. But the reality is that the strategy isn't helping. While I believe FGL might have also been pushing something like "Get Your Shine On" or "Round Here" at country when the "Cruise" remix was released, they were still actively pushing the pop version of Cruise as well (with a video, etc). They also performed it at least once on a big stage together at a time when such a performance was valuable; they never really performed this specific version with DeRulo, and the performance they did have with him (he joined them for the original This is How We Roll, they joined him for his songs) came before this was even shipped to radio and thus before it could make a real impact. If "This is How We Roll" did anything, it put the kibosh on "Drink to that All Night" gaining any sort of steam at pop. We laughed about how bad the song was, but it actually got some early airplay VERY quickly when it came out. Then the TIHWR remix came out, and the Jerrod Niemann song died. Drink To That All Night was [is] great and hit #50 on pop. Unfortunately stations are more willing to play Derulo than Pitbull at the moment, only reason this is the hit and not Niemann's song. That said, at least one of these should hit, they're both excellent. And in such a terrible year for pop music we need some fun refreshing hits.I don't see how this was such a terrible year for pop music. There's more variety on the charts: lately pop has been way more welcoming of new acts like Charli XCX, Magic!, Nico & Vinz, Sam Smith, Iggy Azalea, Echosmith, Kiesza, etc. I think there's plenty of different sounds for everyone and the music has been of great quality imo. And as for TIHWR and Jerrod's song sounding fresh.... I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. To me, both of this songs sound stale and unoriginal, including the typical verse by the hot rent-a-rapper of the moment, and that is also the reason why I think none of these 2 songs will do nothing. For a country crossover to work on pop radio it has to have that unique sound that sets it apart from the other pop hits, not sound like a redneck parody of a party tune (which to me This Is How We Roll & Drink To That All Night sound like). Take Cruise for example: at the time it did sound fresh and fun. Another example of a unique sound would be If I Die Young by the Band Perry. That said, if one of these songs have to succeed, I'd rather it be FGL's. I just feel like Jerrod is capable of so much better, so his song feels like a bigger insult to me
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Post by castrobabytiger on Jul 14, 2014 9:50:03 GMT -5
Doesn't help that Florida Georgia Line seems 100% focused on pushing new single "Dirt" at country. I don't blame them - Dirt could be a MAJOR blockbuster at country (and is selling well--far better than the This is How We Roll Remix--period), while I'm not sure this was ever going to be more than a moderate hit at pop. But the reality is that the strategy isn't helping. While I believe FGL might have also been pushing something like "Get Your Shine On" or "Round Here" at country when the "Cruise" remix was released, they were still actively pushing the pop version of Cruise as well (with a video, etc). They also performed it at least once on a big stage together at a time when such a performance was valuable; they never really performed this specific version with DeRulo, and the performance they did have with him (he joined them for the original This is How We Roll, they joined him for his songs) came before this was even shipped to radio and thus before it could make a real impact. If "This is How We Roll" did anything, it put the kibosh on "Drink to that All Night" gaining any sort of steam at pop. We laughed about how bad the song was, but it actually got some early airplay VERY quickly when it came out. Then the TIHWR remix came out, and the Jerrod Niemann song died. Drink To That All Night was [is] great and hit #50 on pop. Unfortunately stations are more willing to play Derulo than Pitbull at the moment, only reason this is the hit and not Niemann's song. That said, at least one of these should hit, they're both excellent. And in such a terrible year for pop music we need some fun refreshing hits. Are you serious... my boy only got one smash hit this era... they dropped Wiggle like a rock without ever giving it a chance I love Jason but Cruise had the better remix and I have always been saying this... the song just isn't as catchy
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2014 10:30:51 GMT -5
they dropped Wiggle like a rock without ever giving it a chance ummmm it made top 10 even though it was the most disliked song via the callout scores. pop radio was pretty generous imo. Anyways, their new song is probably their best and I may have liked it if it weren't for those jarring vocals.
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Post by onefrayedrepublic on Jul 14, 2014 16:09:50 GMT -5
Drink To That All Night was [is] great and hit #50 on pop. Unfortunately stations are more willing to play Derulo than Pitbull at the moment, only reason this is the hit and not Niemann's song. That said, at least one of these should hit, they're both excellent. And in such a terrible year for pop music we need some fun refreshing hits.I don't see how this was such a terrible year for pop music. There's more variety on the charts: lately pop has been way more welcoming of new acts like Charli XCX, Magic!, Nico & Vinz, Sam Smith, Iggy Azalea, Echosmith, Kiesza, etc. I think there's plenty of different sounds for everyone and the music has been of great quality imo. And as for TIHWR and Jerrod's song sounding fresh.... I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. To me, both of this songs sound stale and unoriginal, including the typical verse by the hot rent-a-rapper of the moment, and that is also the reason why I think none of these 2 songs will do nothing. For a country crossover to work on pop radio it has to have that unique sound that sets it apart from the other pop hits, not sound like a redneck parody of a party tune (which to me This Is How We Roll & Drink To That All Night sound like). Take Cruise for example: at the time it did sound fresh and fun. Another example of a unique sound would be If I Die Young by the Band Perry. That said, if one of these songs have to succeed, I'd rather it be FGL's. I just feel like Jerrod is capable of so much better, so his song feels like a bigger insult to me I didn't ask for fresh, I asked for refreshing -- something rejuvenating that can revitalize pop's energy. Timber is still hanging around because no fun other party song has replaced it yet. It's summer, why is pop so downtempo and downbeat? I'll grant that Magic, Sam Smith, Chali XCX are different, but poorly executed novelty adds little to the chart.
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Post by dajire4 on Jul 14, 2014 16:19:58 GMT -5
^hello? Something refreshing has to be fresh. Anyway, by saying pop is being downtempo and downbeat you are just ignoring plenty of songs, whether you like them or not: Summer, Problem, Ain't It Fun, Fancy, Classic, Wiggle, Maps and a long ectecera.
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Post by onefrayedrepublic on Jul 14, 2014 19:36:58 GMT -5
a coke is refreshing but not fresh.
Am I Wrong, Rude, Stay With Me, Latch, Love Runs Out, Come With Me Now... it's a really slow and not particularly cheery summer.
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Post by dajire4 on Jul 15, 2014 3:45:05 GMT -5
a coke is refreshing but not fresh. Am I Wrong, Rude, Stay With Me, Latch, Love Runs Out, Come With Me Now... it's a really slow and not particularly cheery summer. If said coke it's not fresh and has been opened for 2 centuries it won't be refreshing, trust me. And I fail to see how Rude, Come With Me Now or Latch are downtempo just because they don't sound like every other Pitbull track. Anyway, moving on.
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Post by jjose712 on Jul 15, 2014 9:48:30 GMT -5
Drink To That All Night was [is] great and hit #50 on pop. Unfortunately stations are more willing to play Derulo than Pitbull at the moment, only reason this is the hit and not Niemann's song. That said, at least one of these should hit, they're both excellent. And in such a terrible year for pop music we need some fun refreshing hits. Are you serious... my boy only got one smash hit this era... they dropped Wiggle like a rock without ever giving it a chance I love Jason but Cruise had the better remix and I have always been saying this... the song just isn't as catchy Totally false. The other side was a top 5 pop and top 20 on billboard, way better than any of Derulo's singles in the previous era. Talk Dirty is his biggest hit in years, and Wiggle sales are fantastic (specially for something so bad, i really like Jason but the song is awful beyond belief). Trumpets is going to be a smash for sure. Derulo is right now the hottest male artist on radio with difference (only Sam Smith is getting that kind of attention, but they are playing totally different leagues)
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Post by castrobabytiger on Jul 15, 2014 15:02:29 GMT -5
Are you serious... my boy only got one smash hit this era... they dropped Wiggle like a rock without ever giving it a chance I love Jason but Cruise had the better remix and I have always been saying this... the song just isn't as catchy Totally false. The other side was a top 5 pop and top 20 on billboard, way better than any of Derulo's singles in the previous era. Talk Dirty is his biggest hit in years, and Wiggle sales are fantastic (specially for something so bad, i really like Jason but the song is awful beyond belief). Trumpets is going to be a smash for sure. Derulo is right now the hottest male artist on radio with difference (only Sam Smith is getting that kind of attention, but they are playing totally different leagues) Pop radio loves Jason (they always play his songs)...but he doesnt realky have a following on any other formats What I was referring to was that Talk Dirty was the only song since Ridin Solo to really do some damage P.S Im like the biggest JD fan...so it was no shade
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Post by jjose712 on Jul 15, 2014 15:16:59 GMT -5
I think Jason is way bigger right now than Nelly was when he teamed with FGL on Cruise. Jason is the kind of singer who usually fades after a couple of successful songs (and we have Taio Cruz or Jay Sean to prove it), but unless others he has some staying power. The other side was maybe not a smash but it was way bigger than any from his last era, and Wiggle really sold well, the problem is that is a very polarizing song (and i understand why) so radio ended dropping it. But he has three top 10 pop songs and one top 20 from this era, and i think he will get a successful fifth single. In my opinion he is in his best moment
The problem here is in my opinion that Cruise had a lot more crossover potential. This is how we roll was big on country, but doesn't suit on pop that much, and that doesn't change even if Madonna do a collaboration.
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Post by onefrayedrepublic on Jul 15, 2014 19:00:41 GMT -5
a coke is refreshing but not fresh. Am I Wrong, Rude, Stay With Me, Latch, Love Runs Out, Come With Me Now... it's a really slow and not particularly cheery summer. If said coke it's not fresh and has been opened for 2 centuries it won't be refreshing, trust me. And I fail to see how Rude, Come With Me Now or Latch are downtempo just because they don't sound like every other Pitbull track. Anyway, moving on. Come With Me Now isn't downtempo, sure, but it doesn't exactly have that warm summery relaxing at the beach vibe. In fact it's rather dark. I quite like it, but I wouldn't think of it as a summer song in any way.
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Post by pnobelysk on Jul 16, 2014 0:36:58 GMT -5
I think Jason is way bigger right now than Nelly was when he teamed with FGL on Cruise. Jason is the kind of singer who usually fades after a couple of successful songs (and we have Taio Cruz or Jay Sean to prove it), but unless others he has some staying power. The other side was maybe not a smash but it was way bigger than any from his last era, and Wiggle really sold well, the problem is that is a very polarizing song (and i understand why) so radio ended dropping it. But he has three top 10 pop songs and one top 20 from this era, and i think he will get a successful fifth single. In my opinion he is in his best moment The problem here is in my opinion that Cruise had a lot more crossover potential. This is how we roll was big on country, but doesn't suit on pop that much, and that doesn't change even if Madonna do a collaboration. It girl and don't wanna go home were about the same sized hits as the other side if not bigger
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Post by dajire4 on Jul 16, 2014 8:23:48 GMT -5
If said coke it's not fresh and has been opened for 2 centuries it won't be refreshing, trust me. And I fail to see how Rude, Come With Me Now or Latch are downtempo just because they don't sound like every other Pitbull track. Anyway, moving on. Come With Me Now isn't downtempo, sure, but it doesn't exactly have that warm summery relaxing at the beach vibe. In fact it's rather dark. I quite like it, but I wouldn't think of it as a summer song in any way. This I will agree with ;)
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