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Post by drummerman2009 on Jun 20, 2014 17:30:45 GMT -5
Can we please stop suggesting that Kenny is all about island/beach music? When this song makes it into the top 20 it will be his 50th top 20 hit. Out of those 50 songs only about 10 could be put in that category. How forever feels, No shoes, When the sun goes down, Anything but mine, Summertime, Beer in mexico, shiftwork, I'm alive, Pirate flag, and When i see this bar are the only one's with true beach/island references. Everybody wants to go to heaven and Out last night could be thrown in there based on instrumental I suppose. That's 20-25% of his catalog of released singles. How about we now compare that with nostalgia? Don't happen twice, Young, The good stuff, A lot of things different, There goes my life, I go back, Keg in the closet, Never wanted nothin more, Don't blink, Down the road, The boys of fall, Somewhere with you, and now American kids gives us 13. So with an extra category you still only get to 50%. Take someone like Keith Urban who has never really done it for me, I would never be tempted to go in his thread and post something that all he ever sings about is being in love or breaking up, despite that being my perception. Kenny's feel good island/beach vibe is apart of his music. Asking for that to go away is to suggest Toby shouldn't be so political. So I'm asking nicely, can we move on from this obsession we have of generalizing everyone's music down to one unfair category? The picture on the video of the bus on the beach seems to suggest otherwise not to mention the ska and reggae influences which suggests that it's still a beach song. All of the beach songs sound similar. You mentioned Toby Keith and his political songs, how about the obsession he has with trailer parks and red solo cups and drinking that lasted until it got on other people's nerves thus the reason why "Shut Up and Hold On" flopped? At least Keith Urban has different songs about different things and doesn't have to rely on one certain theme over and over again.
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Post by zjames on Jun 20, 2014 17:52:03 GMT -5
I'm really enjoying this. Maybe it's because I have a soft spot for nostalgic songs about one's youth, but this sounds like a perfect summer lead single for Kenny. While the lyrics aren't exactly "intelligent," they evoke interesting and different images that will stand out amongst other country offerings this summer.
Also "A little messed up but we're all alright" will be the lyric of Summer 2014 for us young country fans.
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Post by stevieb1434 on Jun 20, 2014 17:53:32 GMT -5
Can we please stop suggesting that Kenny is all about island/beach music? When this song makes it into the top 20 it will be his 50th top 20 hit. Out of those 50 songs only about 10 could be put in that category. How forever feels, No shoes, When the sun goes down, Anything but mine, Summertime, Beer in mexico, shiftwork, I'm alive, Pirate flag, and When i see this bar are the only one's with true beach/island references. Everybody wants to go to heaven and Out last night could be thrown in there based on instrumental I suppose. That's 20-25% of his catalog of released singles. How about we now compare that with nostalgia? Don't happen twice, Young, The good stuff, A lot of things different, There goes my life, I go back, Keg in the closet, Never wanted nothin more, Don't blink, Down the road, The boys of fall, Somewhere with you, and now American kids gives us 13. So with an extra category you still only get to 50%. Take someone like Keith Urban who has never really done it for me, I would never be tempted to go in his thread and post something that all he ever sings about is being in love or breaking up, despite that being my perception. Kenny's feel good island/beach vibe is apart of his music. Asking for that to go away is to suggest Toby shouldn't be so political. So I'm asking nicely, can we move on from this obsession we have of generalizing everyone's music down to one unfair category? The picture on the video of the bus on the beach seems to suggest otherwise not to mention the ska and reggae influences which suggests that it's still a beach song. All of the beach songs sound similar. You mentioned Toby Keith and his political songs, how about the obsession he has with trailer parks and red solo cups and drinking that lasted until it got on other people's nerves thus the reason why "Shut Up and Hold On" flopped? At least Keith Urban has different songs about different things and doesn't have to rely on one certain theme over and over again. You completely missed the point. Okay let's move American kids from nostalgia to beach/island theme. Where does that leave you with respect to El cerrito place, you and tequila, reality, feel like a rockstar, come over, live a little, ain't back yet, better as a memory, you save me, who you'd be today, the woman with you, big star, what i need to do, you had me from hello, tractor, I lost it, when i close my eyes, me and you, she's got it all, fall in love and the rest of the ones i missed? How do you plan to get all those songs in that one little category or even the extra category I gave you? Wouldn't it just be easier to concede the point?
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Post by countryfan4life on Jun 20, 2014 17:59:36 GMT -5
I am a huge Kenny fan, but with the exception of songs like El Cerrito Place, You and Tequila, and Somewhere With You, his recent releases have been somewhat underwhelming for me. I'm not crazy over this song right now, which makes me sad. Like some have said the lyrics aren't bad, but the production is just weird, especially the verses. The chorus isn't bad, in fact, if the whole song was more like the chorus I would have a much better felling about it. This will probably grow on me eventually, but I really hope the whole album isn't like this. I want more songs like I Go Back, The Good Stuff, and There Goes My Life.
Why are we comparing Kenny and Luke? I'm a huge Luke fan, but Kenny has been packing out football stadiums for years, and can still do it after taking a year off. Luke has potential to get there someday, because like Kenny, he knows how to put on a show and has a strong connection with his fans, but at this point he's not there yet.
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Post by matty005 on Jun 20, 2014 18:03:33 GMT -5
I'm not sure why people are finding these lyrics to be "intelligent". It's pretty much just a list of cliches about growing up in the US and memories of ones youth. It's not even done creatively in my opinion. I like Kenny as much as others, but I'm not going to give him a free pass on his lyrics when everyone loves to hammer Luke and others. I think they're intelligent because they cleverly name drop songs or lyrics from the 70s/80s/90s while still telling a story.
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Post by zjames on Jun 20, 2014 18:09:11 GMT -5
I am a huge Kenny fan, but with the exception of songs like El Cerrito Place, You and Tequila, and Somewhere With You, his recent releases have been somewhat underwhelming for me. I'm not crazy over this song right now, which makes me sad. Like some have said the lyrics aren't bad, but the production is just weird, especially the verses. The chorus isn't bad, in fact, if the whole song was more like the chorus I would have a much better felling about it. This will probably grow on me eventually, but I really hope the whole album isn't like this. I want more songs like I Go Back, The Good Stuff, and There Goes My Life. Why are we comparing Kenny and Luke? I'm a huge Luke fan, but Kenny has been packing out football stadiums for years, and can still do it after taking a year off. Luke has potential to get there someday, because like Kenny, he knows how to put on a show and has a strong connection with his fans, but at this point he's not there yet. I feel the same way. The chorus is by far the best part of the song. Even though I like this song a decent amount, I desperately want Kenny to release deeper songs like the ones you mentioned. These catchy feel-good songs just won't have the lasting impact that his past classics have.
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Post by stevieb1434 on Jun 20, 2014 18:29:12 GMT -5
I am a huge Kenny fan, but with the exception of songs like El Cerrito Place, You and Tequila, and Somewhere With You, his recent releases have been somewhat underwhelming for me. I'm not crazy over this song right now, which makes me sad. Like some have said the lyrics aren't bad, but the production is just weird, especially the verses. The chorus isn't bad, in fact, if the whole song was more like the chorus I would have a much better felling about it. This will probably grow on me eventually, but I really hope the whole album isn't like this. I want more songs like I Go Back, The Good Stuff, and There Goes My Life. Why are we comparing Kenny and Luke? I'm a huge Luke fan, but Kenny has been packing out football stadiums for years, and can still do it after taking a year off. Luke has potential to get there someday, because like Kenny, he knows how to put on a show and has a strong connection with his fans, but at this point he's not there yet. I'm not sure why people go on threads of people they don't like and insult them and their fans by suggesting someone else is better. I was responding to the original insult. I have nothing against Luke Bryan. I'm not a fan and therefore you won't find me in his threads. However, I won't have someone come in a Kenny thread and suggest Luke is bigger now then Kenny ever was. That deserves to be exposed and ridiculed.
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Post by countryfan4life on Jun 20, 2014 19:03:21 GMT -5
I am a huge Kenny fan, but with the exception of songs like El Cerrito Place, You and Tequila, and Somewhere With You, his recent releases have been somewhat underwhelming for me. I'm not crazy over this song right now, which makes me sad. Like some have said the lyrics aren't bad, but the production is just weird, especially the verses. The chorus isn't bad, in fact, if the whole song was more like the chorus I would have a much better felling about it. This will probably grow on me eventually, but I really hope the whole album isn't like this. I want more songs like I Go Back, The Good Stuff, and There Goes My Life. Why are we comparing Kenny and Luke? I'm a huge Luke fan, but Kenny has been packing out football stadiums for years, and can still do it after taking a year off. Luke has potential to get there someday, because like Kenny, he knows how to put on a show and has a strong connection with his fans, but at this point he's not there yet. I'm not sure why people go on threads of people they don't like and insult them and their fans by suggesting someone else is better. I was responding to the original insult. I have nothing against Luke Bryan. I'm not a fan and therefore you won't find me in his threads. However, I won't have someone come in a Kenny thread and suggest Luke is bigger now then Kenny ever was. That deserves to be exposed and ridiculed. I wasn't saying you were wrong, i n fact I was agreeing with you. I don't blame you for saying something.
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Post by liza on Jun 20, 2014 20:59:49 GMT -5
I'm not sure why people are finding these lyrics to be "intelligent". It's pretty much just a list of cliches about growing up in the US and memories of ones youth. It's not even done creatively in my opinion. I like Kenny as much as others, but I'm not going to give him a free pass on his lyrics when everyone loves to hammer Luke and others. I think they're intelligent because they cleverly name drop songs or lyrics from the 70s/80s/90s while still telling a story. That's it - clever.
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Post by justme60 on Jun 20, 2014 21:33:03 GMT -5
Well, Luke is just getting started in a way different time and Kenny has had his day, if this new song is a sign of his new music. The younger fans are all about Luke and will not understand much of this latest song of Kenny's...IMO. Also his vocals are pretty bad on the song, IMO. So dear, don't laugh tooooo hard just yet!! I was laughing at "was Kenny ever that big??" and your hilarious attempt to imply Luke is bigger now then Kenny ever was. So yes dear, I'm still laughing at your silliness. Oh and yes Luke might be bigger on the radio now, but he still doesn't compare to Kenny on touring. When Luke Bryan comes to my town he plays at an area. When Kenny comes he plays at the football stadium. By that standard Luke has some catching up to do. I'd say IMO regarding all this, but it's a matter of record not opinion. Well my daughter and her friends were all big Chesney fans, but now it's Kenny who. Since Luke has come on the scene, they all think Luke sings and entertains so much better than Chesney. And you know what, they don't give a hoot how many entertainer awards Chesney was given. They are all about who the it person is now and that my dear is LUKE! And you know what, I don't give a hoot about Chesney or Luke, so laugh all you want...miss immature. And you need to stop getting so worked up about anything said against Chesney! He's had his day, now let somebody else have theirs. And yes my dear, this is all a matter of record, not opinion. Have a nice day. :)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2014 21:48:38 GMT -5
Ok guys, let's cut it out with the fan wars and the acid tones here. The thread is for discussion of "American Kids". Some tangent discussion is fine but the back-and-forth Kenny vs. Luke (or whoever else) battle is getting a bit out of hand. So, back to "American Kids".
I have to say that I really, really enjoy this. I had to make 3 short commutes today and I heard this one on the radio 5 times (each time I went somewhere and then returned, with the exception of my first commute). I had the radio turned to KNIX which is Phoenix's Clear Channel station. Each time it came on Kenny introduced the song by saying "Hey I'm Kenny Chesney and you're listening to the world premiere of my new song 'American Kids'. Thanks for listening to KNIX". So, obviously KNIX was playing it about once an hour today.
This is a good nostalgic song. I think the lyrics are both clever and amusing, and they are very relatable without being cliche. There are plenty of specific things mentioned in the lyrics, from the car breaking down to the school bus kicking up red dust, the bit about MTV on the RCA, and the second verse about fooling around in the church parking lot. Is it a masterpiece set of lyrics? No, but it paints a vivid picture that could apply to the younger days for many people. It's not "hey, look at this tanned-legged little hottie sittin' on the tailgate of my truck! She didn't have a boyfriend so she climbed on into my jacked-up truck and slid on over next to me as we drove down the dirt road to the party back out in the sticks. A couple drinks later and we were in the bed of my truck..."
Storylines such as that are the reasons why I despise bro-country. "American Kids" is a breath of fresh air to me. It sounds different and yet it's still very much within Kenny's ballpark.
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Post by matty005 on Jun 20, 2014 21:49:54 GMT -5
I was laughing at "was Kenny ever that big??" and your hilarious attempt to imply Luke is bigger now then Kenny ever was. So yes dear, I'm still laughing at your silliness. Oh and yes Luke might be bigger on the radio now, but he still doesn't compare to Kenny on touring. When Luke Bryan comes to my town he plays at an area. When Kenny comes he plays at the football stadium. By that standard Luke has some catching up to do. I'd say IMO regarding all this, but it's a matter of record not opinion. Well my daughter and her friends were all big Chesney fans, but now it's Kenny who. Since Luke has come on the scene, they all think Luke sings and entertains so much better than Chesney. And you know what, they don't give a hoot how many entertainer awards Chesney was given. They are all about who the it person is now and that my dear is LUKE! And you know what, I don't give a hoot about Chesney or Luke, so laugh all you want...miss immature. And you need to stop getting so worked up about anything said against Chesney! He's had his day, now let somebody else have theirs. And yes my dear, this is all a matter of record, not opinion. Have a nice day. :) Yeah that is how popularity works. In a few years it will be Luke who? You're comparing them liking Luke now compared to how they like Kenny now. If you want to be fair you have to compare them at their peaks.
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Post by Fanofctrymusic on Jun 21, 2014 3:28:40 GMT -5
Country No.1 Justin Moore Lettin' The Night Roll +97388 Kenny Chesney American Kids
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2014 3:38:05 GMT -5
Wow, 9.7 million in audience in a single day. That would put this song at #29 if it were on Monday's Billboard chart. I actually think a #29 debut for this coming Monday is quite likely...no top 30 songs are likely to go recurrent, and an audience around 11-12 million or so would slot Kenny in above Parmalee and Frankie Ballard but probably just behind Miranda/Carrie and Eric.
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Post by rbundy1987 on Jun 21, 2014 9:09:58 GMT -5
Wow, 9.7 million in audience in a single day. That would put this song at #29 if it were on Monday's Billboard chart. I actually think a #29 debut for this coming Monday is quite likely...no top 30 songs are likely to go recurrent, and an audience around 11-12 million or so would slot Kenny in above Parmalee and Frankie Ballard but probably just behind Miranda/Carrie and Eric. Ya, watch next Saturday when it's on it's 8th day and losing tons of spins and audience and dropping several spots. Gotta love Clear Channel because it only makes you fall hard on that 8th day on the chart then you have to recover or try to recover ;)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2014 17:18:17 GMT -5
Obviously I'm not defending Clear Channel's "practices" here but I think Kenny is a big enough name that he'll recover more easily than most others who get the CC deal. Plus, this going out on a Friday should help a bit. Little Big Town's CC deal was a bit odd because they aren't a huge A-list artist at radio yet. I didn't think "Day Drinking" would go up quite as fast as, say, a brand new Kenny song (or Jason, Blake, etc), so it doesn't come as a surprise to me that LBT had a really rough 8th day update. Kenny will obviously have a negative one but he may be able to cancel it out with big gains on the other days next week.
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Post by sbp17 on Jun 21, 2014 20:51:53 GMT -5
I find this strangely appealing, particularly the chorus. Quite infectious. A refreshing style and sound from what's on country radio at the moment.
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Post by Marv on Jun 21, 2014 20:58:40 GMT -5
The trusty analysis of Jhomes87 is spot-on as usual for the very simple reason that there is no way that this song will wind up being DOA at country radio upon release a la 'We Are Never Getting Back Together', which essentially went nowhere after a very splashy debut following a full week of saturation airplay, never made the top 15 @ CA/Mediabase, and necessitated the rush-release of 'Begin Again' at least three months ahead of schedule.
Late-in-the-week releases of singles by format superstars starting with 'Never Wanted Nothing More' and 'Good Girl', both of which streaked straight to #1, were definitely on the mind of the execs at Kenny's label when they were cultivating their launch plans for this; I believe that Brad Paisley has utilized a similar strategy for at least two of his singles of the past three years to avoid a second week collapse in spins, which late-week releases essentially eliminates.
'Good Girl' debuted at #30 @ Billboard and #37 at Country Aircheck/Mediabase after also being sent to radio very early on a Friday morning, although KAJA & KEEY were among the handful of stations which jumped the gun the night before with a total of 24 spins among them.
Similar debuts for 'American Kids' at both trades wouldn't surprise me under any circumstances; when the format's third most played artist releases a new single, country radio is going to jump all over it very aggressively, in spite of the spotty performances of his most recent singles of the past couple of years since 'Come Over' hit #1 in August of 2012.
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Post by Fanofctrymusic on Jun 22, 2014 3:30:08 GMT -5
Country No.1 Justin Moore Lettin' The Night Roll +115864 Kenny Chesney American Kids
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Post by onebuffalo on Jun 23, 2014 10:30:54 GMT -5
Debuts at #31 at MediaBase with 12 million audience impressions. Debuts at #27 at Billboard.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jun 25, 2014 16:27:55 GMT -5
#7 digital single with 40,000 downloads.
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Post by 14887fan on Jun 25, 2014 16:43:49 GMT -5
I just can't get into this at all. I find everything about it to be completely lame and unoriginal, from its lyrics all the way to its production. I find Chesney's voice to be absolutely grating, too. Very rarely have I been able to find myself able to support a single release of his throughout his entire career. The last one I loved was "El Cerrito Place," and I honestly don't know what the last single before ECP was by him that I loved because he's just such a mediocre artist to me.
Not discrediting his talent or celebrity at all, but I just think he's overrated and don't think this song brings any sort of improvement to his catalog.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2014 18:09:53 GMT -5
So obviously this got the Clear Channel debut last Friday, but even with that, "American Kids" is just on fire. Even new Luke and Blake songs don't climb this fast.
06/21: +1022 spins, +10.291 million in audience (CC debut) 06/22: +197 spins, +2.045 million 06/23: +166 spins, +1.732 million 06/24: +263 spins, +2.551 million 06/25: +334 spins, +3.099 million
A 5-day bullet of 1982 spins...wow. This is on pace to have perhaps a 2500 bullet (or more) after its first 7 days of airplay. I wonder if Columbia is pushing this extra hard, considering that a couple of his last few singles didn't peak very high? (I think it's safe to assume that they'd like Kenny to remain one of the biggest forces at radio)
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Post by onebuffalo on Jun 25, 2014 18:20:53 GMT -5
So obviously this got the Clear Channel debut last Friday, but even with that, "American Kids" is just on fire. Even new Luke and Blake songs don't climb this fast. 06/21: +1022 spins, +10.291 million in audience (CC debut) 06/22: +197 spins, +2.045 million 06/23: +166 spins, +1.732 million 06/24: +263 spins, +2.551 million 06/25: +334 spins, +3.099 million A 5-day bullet of 1982 spins...wow. This is on pace to have perhaps a 2500 bullet (or more) after its first 7 days of airplay. I wonder if Columbia is pushing this extra hard, considering that a couple of his last few singles didn't peak very high? (I think it's safe to assume that they'd like Kenny to remain one of the biggest forces at radio) Considering Kenny Chesney has twenty-two chart topping hits, I would expect to see him move up on the list of those artists with the most #1s. Maybe even a top ten placing (it would require him to get another four more). I know it's early in the chart week, but after the #27 debut you correctly predicted, where will American Kids land next week?
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 25, 2014 18:26:00 GMT -5
So obviously this got the Clear Channel debut last Friday, but even with that, "American Kids" is just on fire. Even new Luke and Blake songs don't climb this fast. 06/21: +1022 spins, +10.291 million in audience (CC debut) 06/22: +197 spins, +2.045 million 06/23: +166 spins, +1.732 million 06/24: +263 spins, +2.551 million 06/25: +334 spins, +3.099 million A 5-day bullet of 1982 spins...wow. This is on pace to have perhaps a 2500 bullet (or more) after its first 7 days of airplay. I wonder if Columbia is pushing this extra hard, considering that a couple of his last few singles didn't peak very high? (I think it's safe to assume that they'd like Kenny to remain one of the biggest forces at radio) I've actually wondered when Kenny's massive success at country radio would slow down, and the past two years it clearly has with "Feel Like A Rockstar" (#11), "Come Over" (#1), "El Cerrito Place" (#10), "Pirate Flag" (#3), and "When I See This Bar" (#14). One big hit and another top 5 but definitely the most underwhelming chart peaks he's had in a while. I'm sure that Columbia has been planning this return for Kenny for some time. 20 million in audience already on MB and it hasn't even been at radio a full week yet, which Kenny Chesney or not is very hard to do in 2014. I think the Friday debut for this song was a great strategy (and one that I'm sure others will emulate due to the successful peaks of those who've done it) along with Kenny being away for so long from country radio. I'm anxious to see what the future singles off this album holds and if Kenny is planning to reach the success he had with his albums like When The Sun Goes Down, The Road And The Radio, and Poets And Pirates: Just Who I Am. There's quite more star contenders right now than there were back then, but I think you're right in assuming that Columbia is fully on board to make Kenny one of the biggest forces at radio once again if these first 5 days of "American Kids" is any indication.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jun 25, 2014 18:31:36 GMT -5
Well, if it climbs twenty a la Sam Hunt, Kenny Chesney will be at #7. I know that's not going to happen!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2014 18:50:58 GMT -5
Well, if it climbs twenty a la Sam Hunt, Kenny Chesney will be at #7. I know that's not going to happen! No, that won't happen. Sam Hunt 'only' needed to gain 6 million to move up those 20 spots, because songs in the bottom half of the chart have much less audience than in the top half. If Kenny were to gain 6 million this week, he might move up 6 or 7 spots. Let's not forget, though, that come Saturday morning, "American Kids" will take a huge hit. It will probably lose 7-8 million in the Saturday morning update (that's what we call the 8th day effect). But if Kenny can average a gain of 2 million for the other 6 days of the week (and he's already had updates of +2.5 mil and +3.1 mil on the first 2 days of the new Billboard week), that would add up to +12 million. And then subtracting the 7-8 million that he'll lose in the Saturday update would still leave "American Kids" with a net gain of 4-5 million for the week. The Sunday and Monday morning updates will be a bit lower as well since he gained a combined 3.7 million on the Sun/Mon updates this past weekend, but even so, AK should still see some pretty big gains this weekend as well. It's harder to guess how many positions this will move on the next chart, though, since I'm not yet sure if Luke Bryan and Craig Campbell will be going recurrent. Miranda Lambert and Brett Eldredge are obviously heading to recurrent-land (with Brett's top 10 spot almost certainly going to The Band Perry), but I need to see bigger spin drops for "Play It Again" and bigger audience/spin drops for "Keep Them Kisses Comin'" for me to get a clearer picture as to whether they'll go recurrent (we'd need both Lee and Brad to gain enough spins to knock both Luke and Craig to recurrent-land). George Strait is another one that's teetering on the edge of recurrent-land. So there is plenty of room to move up but it's just too early in the week to pinpoint where Kenny will land, given all the variables (what will the weekend look like for Kenny, who will all go recurrent, etc) we're dealing with this time around.
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Post by someguy on Jun 25, 2014 19:32:58 GMT -5
I like this better and better the more I hear it. It fits in with what gets played on the radio in 2014, but not in an embarrassing way. To me, Kenny still sounds appropriate singing this song as a 40-something, rather than trying to sound like he's 20 years younger. This is probably my favourite lead single of his since "Everybody Wants To Go To Heaven", maybe even since "Never Wanted Nothing More". I'm glad it's taking off so well - I thought it would take off, but it's exceeding my expectations at this point.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2014 21:01:54 GMT -5
I'm not typically a Kenny fan, but this is pretty good. I really like the production, and he sounds good. I don't find the lyrics to be anything special, but I suppose if you want to stack 'em up against Luke and Blake, well...that's not asking for much Anyway, I'd give this a "B" overall, and it's nice to hear an artist stick to something they're good at, rather than trying to fit in with current sounds.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jun 26, 2014 10:16:24 GMT -5
#17 debut on the mongrel chart.
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