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Post by Cody on Jul 11, 2014 9:57:25 GMT -5
They did sign with a major label for this album release instead of sticking with Epitaph or another indie label so I'd think they're planning to promote this album more than they did more than the last couple of albums. Let's hope so. Even though they were on an indie label before when they did Hurley when they were on Geffen with Raditude they didn't promote anything for that other than a couple of TV appearances and they didn't even do a late night TV appearance for Red either. The biggest artists that Republic Records has now is Florida Georgia Line but I'm pretty doubtful that "Back To The Shack" will become another "Cruise" for Weezer. I had no idea that's who Florida Georgia Line was with, that explains so much: 1. Why they get pop crossovers as well as collab's with rappers 2. Why they have such a "rock" sound to their country music 3. Why I like them so much
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Post by Superundercover on Jul 11, 2014 12:42:32 GMT -5
The album release is set for September 30th! ;)
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Jul 12, 2014 5:21:24 GMT -5
I also enjoy Florida Georgia Line, but I prefer thier original versions of each song. It's such a pity that thier songs only get huge recognition when some x rapper is featured.
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Post by Cody on Jul 12, 2014 7:29:25 GMT -5
Absolutely, the originals are far superior.
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Post by drummerman2009 on Jul 12, 2014 12:43:30 GMT -5
I hope that Rivers doesn't have a song on the album ripping Matt Sharp up since he was the original bassist and he fired him. BTTS also name drops himself and Pat so how would it feel that an autobiographical song would make the charts much less the Hot 100, if so how many have as the only song I know that was autobiographical is Loretta Lynn's "Coal Miner's Daughter". I wouldn't call the garage apartment that they lived in "the shack" as Rivers calls it either.
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Jul 13, 2014 0:29:28 GMT -5
drummerman2009
Interesting you brought that up.
On wikipedia it it says that Ric Ocasek has taken his production jo;b on this project, very seriously, so I'll doubt ther're will be that kinda dissing on that album, unless they sneak it past him?
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Post by drummerman2009 on Jul 13, 2014 9:22:14 GMT -5
Here's the incomplete listing of songs from the album.
"Back to the Shack" "Ain't Got Nobody" "The Waste Land" "Eulogy for a Rock Band" (probably meaning Weezer might disband?) "My Mystery" "Return to Ithaca" (I had to do a search for what Ithaca meant and it is from Homer's "Odyessey")
This is from Wikipedia and it has this to say about the album:
"According to official press release, the album is "organized thematically around three groups of songs"."
"Cuomo described the album as dealing with three main themes: his relationship to others, his relationship to women and his relationship to his father "with a new spin"."
What I gather from this:
His relationship to others: Cuomo treating his group in a controlling way. An apology to the fans for making the last two albums and alienating some of their fans? An apology to Matt Sharp (which I doubt)?
His relationship to women: Until he got married, he fantasized and was/is obsessed with Japanese women.
His relationship to his father: He didn't have much of a relationship with his father as he left when Rivers was 5 years old.
So I don't really know what really to think of it other than the whole album is autobiographical.
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Post by Green Baron on Jul 13, 2014 17:11:02 GMT -5
Alright, Weezer album rating time!
Blue: A- Pinkerton: A- Green: C+ Maladroit: C+ Make Believe: D Red: C+ Raditude: F Hurley: C+
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Post by drummerman2009 on Jul 13, 2014 19:12:28 GMT -5
Several PDs have listed "Back To The Shack" under their Hot Picks selections, which probably means it's the single. They're also on Republic now. I wished that this was done at least 5 to 10 years earlier then maybe it would have made more sense and believable. Instead we have a group whose main touring is now with cruises like in this video and playing to advertisers and to younger people and not the demographic when Blue and Pinkerton came out with those who first purchased it are in their mid 30's to early 40's today. What was the motivation of Rivers wanting to try to be something he wasn't in that he was trying to write to please younger people rather than his own age and hooking up with people like Lil' Wayne, Hayley Williams, Kenny G., Dr. Luke, etc. and him wanting to go "Back to the Shack" so to speak?
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Post by drummerman2009 on Jul 15, 2014 14:57:09 GMT -5
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Post by @DiegoMarcondes_ on Jul 21, 2014 10:28:31 GMT -5
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Post by Cody on Jul 21, 2014 10:30:12 GMT -5
Eh...
This doesn't sound like, not should it be, a big alternative hit.
Just making the top 40 would be a success...and would probably be the most this song deserves.
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Post by Cody on Jul 21, 2014 10:34:44 GMT -5
Interestingly enough, using the link above, it leads into the new Script song, which is pretty good.
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Post by Green Baron on Jul 21, 2014 10:35:50 GMT -5
I was never a big Weezer fan, and this song sucks, but please at least make it to the top 10...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 10:41:57 GMT -5
may do worse than Memories
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Post by drummerman2009 on Jul 21, 2014 10:42:30 GMT -5
I was never a big Weezer fan, and this song sucks. Fixed it for you. I hope this flops myself. Haven't been a total fan since Rad and Hurley except for the first singles off of both and they started to run their Memories tours into the ground and started playing casinos and for advertisers and for their hundred fans. I will buy Lady Antebellum's "747" on September 30th instead of this garbage Ric Ocasuck or not.
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Post by Green Baron on Jul 21, 2014 10:42:36 GMT -5
Memories did bad only because it was released too soon.
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Post by drummerman2009 on Jul 21, 2014 10:47:07 GMT -5
Memories did bad only because it was released too soon. Memories did poorly on account it was an autobiographical song same with BTTS. If this flops we may see Weezer end up disbanding or just playing tours for the money (which they are)
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Post by Green Baron on Jul 21, 2014 10:48:26 GMT -5
Memories did bad only because it was released too soon. Memories did poorly on account it was an autobiographical song same with BTTS. If this flops we may see Weezer end up disbanding or just playing tours for the money (which they are) Memories was released literally the week after the third single to Raditude peaked on radio. In fact, I think its release prohibited "Tripping Down the Freeway" from doing better.
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Post by drummerman2009 on Jul 21, 2014 10:53:25 GMT -5
I noticed the same old same old with the lyrics of Memories and Back to the Shack.
"Memories makes me wanna go back there, back there."
"Back to the shack, back to the shack, back to the shack."
Coindinence? I think not. Just shows how shallow Rivers' writing has become.
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Post by drummerman2009 on Jul 21, 2014 12:06:33 GMT -5
I do have a couple of questions.
Why would Rivers call the garage apartment that they recorded the demos of Blue and the place they lived in the early 1990s pre-Weezer "the shack"? Granted that the apartment is not Buckingham Palace but it wasn't a shack by no means.
And why would Brian Bell and Scott Shriner sing about something that they never really experienced and Brian only briefly and Scott never did? And I'm still waiting for the song that rips apart Matt Sharp which could be on this new album.
Lyrically, what do you get from the song?
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Post by Pipa on Jul 21, 2014 12:10:32 GMT -5
Listening to new Weezer songs these days are like watching new Simpsons episodes.
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Post by The Music Man on Jul 21, 2014 12:24:15 GMT -5
I like the vibe of the song, but these lyrics aren't gonna cut it.
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Post by American Idiot on Jul 21, 2014 12:41:13 GMT -5
Listening to new Weezer songs these days are like watching new Simpsons episodes. This exactly. The creativity seems like it's gone. I love The Simpsons, but wish it would end already on a good note with the success it has had over its career. Same with Weezer if they're going to re-hash the same songs over and over. I do like the way it sounds, but as for the lyrics, it's very repetitive everything we've heard over the last decade.
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Post by drummerman2009 on Jul 21, 2014 12:52:24 GMT -5
If BTTS is an apology from Rivers to the fans for alienating them when Raditude and Hurley was released I don't see it working in fact it's making it worse rather than better. People have moved on from them with groups like Imagine Dragons and Bastille among many other groups taking their places and are more now to other singers too. A major drawback is that the guys in Weezer are in their mid 40s and most of the newer groups are in their mid 20s to early 30s tops. I can say that The Offspring may now be a better group than Weezer because they don't rehash songs like Weezer does and I think Dexter and Noodles are better songwriters than Rivers.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 12:54:36 GMT -5
If BTTS is an apology from Rivers to the fans for alienating them when Raditude and Hurley was released I don't see it working in fact it's making it worse rather than better. People have moved on from them with groups like Imagine Dragons and Bastille among many other groups taking their places and are more now to other singers too. A major drawback is that the guys in Weezer are in their mid 40s and most of the newer groups are in their mid 20s to early 30s tops. I can say that The Offspring may now be a better group than Weezer because they don't rehash songs like Weezer does and I think Dexter and Noodles are better songwriters than Rivers. WE GET IT
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Post by Web on Jul 21, 2014 14:21:27 GMT -5
Wow this is pretty bad. Those lyrics are rough to get through and the instrumentation is pretty forgettable. Lyrics are way too self-referential and the hook isn't catchy.
I think it's safe to say Weezer's successful days on Alt radio are behind them at this point. Kind of a shame, I was hoping for something better.
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Post by Superundercover on Jul 21, 2014 14:27:21 GMT -5
At least I like it!
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Post by Brian Battler on Jul 21, 2014 14:34:03 GMT -5
Very gudi
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Post by drummerman2009 on Jul 21, 2014 14:37:11 GMT -5
When will we know in advance on how BTTS is doing on radio and on Mediabase?
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