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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 18:00:46 GMT -5
Two recent polls, "Who is the Best Diva Ever???!!!" and the much shadier "True Divas", asked us to vote for the best-- or at the very least, our favorite-- musical divas that we've all come to know and love. Except the ones we don't know or care to. Anyway, both polls bothered to exclude the Britney Spears; singer, songwriter, dancer, producer, actress, model, fashion designer, perfume mogul, reality TV star, certified living legend, and single mother of two. No doubt, her modest nature has left her expansive portfolio a mystery to many; but to the point: is Britney Spears a Diva? Feel free to elaborate on your answer. -- Further reading: di·va (ˈdēvə/)
noun
- a famous female opera singer.
"your average opera isn't over till the diva trills her high notes"
- a famous female singer of popular music.
"a pop diva"
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 18:09:13 GMT -5
Yes.
Her charisma, success and longevity earns her a spot in my book, and I'm no fan of hers.
I can see why she wasn't included in the other polls, but to each their own. :)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 18:14:34 GMT -5
The two most recent polls were factors, but another part of why I posed this question was that there were past debates on what defines a "diva" and if Britney (specifically) ever actually did fit the bill.
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Post by surfy on Jul 28, 2014 18:20:22 GMT -5
Um... why is this a question? Of course she is! She IS Britney. When you say Britney, no one has to wonder who you're talking about. They just know. (As they should!) And with that definition, Pulse needs to rethink it's idea of a "true diva" then  |
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Post by Glove Slap on Jul 28, 2014 18:27:05 GMT -5
Yes.
Despite what other people might think, in the public consciousness, a contemporary "diva" (non-opera singer) is a famous female singer. That's it. Most people don't specifically care about glory notes and runs. They're not meant to lead a Baptist revival, they just have to carry a tune. She fits.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2014 9:28:01 GMT -5
Yes, duh.
She should have been included.
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Post by Dalliance on Jul 29, 2014 12:22:42 GMT -5
The definition of the word continues to be diluted so she is one yes.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2014 12:29:31 GMT -5
Um... why is this a question? Of course she is! She IS Britney. When you say Britney, no one has to wonder who you're talking about. They just know. (As they should!) And with that definition, Pulse needs to rethink it's idea of a "true diva" then  Was going to post something similar, but just read this so VOILÀ, Frankie has spoken. Hehe |
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Post by dbhmr on Jul 29, 2014 12:48:55 GMT -5
I suppose I can see the ambiguity. There's the VH1 definition of "Diva" with a capital D--the celebrated class of women with big, powerful, cherished voices; and there's the insinuation of being high-maintenance and haughty that often accompanies the term. Britney certainly doesn't fit the former, and as for the latter, I could see it because she's sort of a glamazon, but I think she's maintained her trailer park roots and "I just wanna be with my kids and Starbucks" persona enough to ward off that perception.
But, for Websters and, more importantly, Pulse, she most definitely qualifies.
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Post by Caviar on Jul 29, 2014 13:47:15 GMT -5
It's now all about becoming a chanteuse now.
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Jul 29, 2014 14:40:16 GMT -5
It's now all about becoming a chanteuse now.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2014 15:31:37 GMT -5
It's now all about becoming a chanteuse now. An elusive one ;) |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2014 15:44:14 GMT -5
The definition of the word continues to be diluted so she is one yes. I would argue that the term has become more exclusive as a result of being diluted. |
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Post by sbp17 on Jul 29, 2014 16:32:04 GMT -5
The definition of the word continues to be diluted so she is one yes. I would argue that the term has become more exclusive as a result of being diluted. If the definition has evolved from a female with a big, powerful voice to a female vocalist of popular music, wouldn't that make it more inclusive (vice exclusive) because more singers would fit that definition? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2014 16:50:20 GMT -5
I would argue that the term has become more exclusive as a result of being diluted. If the definition has evolved from a female with a big, powerful voice to a female vocalist of popular music, wouldn't that make it more inclusive (vice exclusive) because more singers would fit that definition? No, because in musical pop culture a diva has always been a singwr of pop music with particular talent. Where it got diluted-- and ultimately exclusive-- was when people began blurring the lines of what it meant to be a "pop diva" with it's original definition of an opera singer with a big voice; something that has nothing to do with the pop culture equivalent, because duh. Obviously, diva could mean something different now than it did. It's up for debate. I'm not trying to say that the term taking an exclusive turn is necessarily a bad thing either. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2014 16:53:11 GMT -5
If Britney isn't a diva, then who is?
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Post by Mack on Jul 29, 2014 16:56:11 GMT -5
No. She's a female pop singer, but other than that, nothing about her screams "diva."
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Post by Ling-Ling on Jul 29, 2014 20:24:54 GMT -5
Based on today's criteria? Yeah, she is. She's a famous, iconic female singer.
But personally, she hasn't given me diva in years. When I hear the word "diva," I think of a powerful woman in control of her life and career. She hasn't been that in almost a decade. She lacks confidence, can barely articulate a thought in an interview, is a shell of her former self onstage and isn't even in control of her personal life or finances. I'm patiently waiting for her to get it back.
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Post by Tylerjamesnerd on Jul 29, 2014 21:24:00 GMT -5
Yep shes a diva
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Post by Zeebz on Jul 30, 2014 0:05:31 GMT -5
She is a diva. She fits the definition and is just an iconic star. By every means she is.
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Jul 30, 2014 9:12:08 GMT -5
If Britney isn't a diva, then who is?  |
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Post by Dalliance on Jul 31, 2014 15:39:18 GMT -5
I think she could be iconic without being a diva. She just doesn't give me "diva" teas. Never has.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Aug 2, 2014 5:39:45 GMT -5
I guess..
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Post by K. on Aug 2, 2014 7:15:30 GMT -5
Yes. I think diva in the pop context has two meanings:
1. amazing belty singer (e.g. Whitney, Mariah, Celine)
2. fierce singer with a lot of drama (e.g. Britney, Gaga, Madonna, etc.)
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