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Post by allow that on Aug 14, 2014 10:58:10 GMT -5
I hope Rihanna doesn't dick us around again and release a really strong first single then bore us with EDM rehash after rehash. I think her Guetta-esque 2010 dancepop days are behind her, but there will definitely be dance tracks on this album. Most likely with house or trap elements included.
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Post by jjose712 on Aug 15, 2014 7:23:25 GMT -5
It wouldn't be better if she waits till september? Taylor Swift is going to release her single in a few days, and the last time two divas released almost the same time things won't go well for one of them. It's quite risky.
Anyway, Diamonds was released at the same time that Die Young and Locked out of heaven. Curiously, the success of the three songs ended being the inverse of itunes reaction in the first week
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Post by kmbgs on Aug 15, 2014 8:55:45 GMT -5
It wouldn't be better if she waits till september? Taylor Swift is going to release her single in a few days, and the last time two divas released almost the same time things won't go well for one of them. It's quite risky. Anyway, Diamonds was released at the same time that Die Young and Locked out of heaven. Curiously, the success of the three songs ended being the inverse of itunes reaction in the first week To me, those were all about equally-sized hits.
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Post by hitseeker. on Aug 15, 2014 9:00:09 GMT -5
Nothing is confirmed that the single is indeed coming in August, but yeah I wouldn't mind if it was released after Taylor's.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2014 11:14:50 GMT -5
If you ever click on my signature, it will lead you here, just so everyone knows. :)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2014 11:16:58 GMT -5
Rihanna Diva is one of the biggest, most important fansites alongisde Rihanna Daily and according to people on ATRL, they have some connections. This could be reliable or not, let's see. I'm not getting my hopes up, though. OMG, I hope it's tomorrow, what a pleasant birthday surprise that would be.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2014 11:28:09 GMT -5
holy shit at me missing this thread rofl I can't wait.
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Post by mrossp24 on Aug 15, 2014 11:41:29 GMT -5
Could you imagine if Rihanna AND Taylor released their new singles on Monday!? The internet would break.
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Post by kmbgs on Aug 15, 2014 12:24:23 GMT -5
I could see Rihanna wanting to go head to head with Taylor, she's probably the only person in the game right now that could actually give Taylor a run for her money re: digital sales. More importantly, she gives no fucks and would cackle regardless.
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Post by hitseeker. on Aug 15, 2014 12:43:42 GMT -5
Rihanna Diva is one of the biggest, most important fansites alongisde Rihanna Daily and according to people on ATRL, they have some connections. This could be reliable or not, let's see. I'm not getting my hopes up, though. OMG, I hope it's tomorrow, what a pleasant birthday surprise that would be. I don't think it's coming tomorrow, unless she pulls a Beyoncé and I don't really see that happening
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Post by jjose712 on Aug 15, 2014 13:26:53 GMT -5
It wouldn't be better if she waits till september? Taylor Swift is going to release her single in a few days, and the last time two divas released almost the same time things won't go well for one of them. It's quite risky. Anyway, Diamonds was released at the same time that Die Young and Locked out of heaven. Curiously, the success of the three songs ended being the inverse of itunes reaction in the first week To me, those were all about equally-sized hits. Locked out of heaven was a lot more weeks at number one, Die young died quite young after the shooting and radio started to drop the song. The first week sales were exactly in the inverse order, and Die Young and Diamond first week at billboard was way higher than Locked out of heaven (wich not not even near top 5 on itunes in its first week, while Die Young was clearly number one). The three songs were big hits, but not equal hits. Anyway the risk of releasing so close to another big star goes beyond the hit becoming big. Applause was a big hit, but it was the sense of underperform in comparision with Roar what made the damage, and some people were labelling Artpop as a flop even before the release of the album. Of course Gaga and Katy has way more in common than Rihanna and Taylor. But Taylor used to have massive sales in the first weeks of her new singles so maybe waiting a couple of weeks could end being good
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Post by jjose712 on Aug 15, 2014 13:30:10 GMT -5
I could see Rihanna wanting to go head to head with Taylor, she's probably the only person in the game right now that could actually give Taylor a run for her money re: digital sales. More importantly, she gives no f**ks and would cackle regardless. In the long run her single could do better (specially if it's a better song), in the first week i don't think she has a chance
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Post by NeRD on Aug 16, 2014 11:16:12 GMT -5
Rihanna is no stranger to going against other big artists.
2010: Only Girl/What's My Name v. Teenage Dream/Firework 2011: S&M/We Found Love v. E.T./Someone Like You 2012: We Found Love/Diamonds v. Sexy and I Know It/Locked Out Of Heaven/Die Young/We Are Never Getting Back Together
Not to mention she went head to head with One Direction, Take That, Nickleback, etc. with her albums.
Point being, if the material is good, she will have success regardless of who is releasing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2014 14:41:19 GMT -5
Releasing the song tomorrow would be a smart strategy imo. Roar was released one day before Applause. Both probably had about equal hype, and Roar preformed so much better.
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Post by jjose712 on Aug 17, 2014 5:32:49 GMT -5
Rihanna is no stranger to going against other big artists. 2010: Only Girl/What's My Name v. Teenage Dream/Firework 2011: S&M/We Found Love v. E.T./Someone Like You 2012: We Found Love/Diamonds v. Sexy and I Know It/Locked Out Of Heaven/Die Young/We Are Never Getting Back Together Not to mention she went head to head with One Direction, Take That, Nickleback, etc. with her albums. Point being, if the material is good, she will have success regardless of who is releasing. We are not talking about the same. One thing is going against a big name (it's almost inevitable) when you release a single, and other very different thing is going against a big name with your first single of the era against another first single of the era of another big name. Only Diamonds/Die Young/Locked out of heaven fit that situation. It's true that Rihanna is probably the singer who less fear flopping singles, not even the first release, she recover from Russian Roulette. But going against someone so big as you can have consecuences. Anyway, it's more dangerous with the albums that with the singles. In the weeks were sales are big generally there are a lot of releases and someone always gets damages (ignored) that weeks
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 17, 2014 7:27:13 GMT -5
Figured we wouldn't get through 2014 without new RiRi, post-Shakira collabo. What took her so long?
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Post by QuEenOfpoP on Aug 18, 2014 3:00:34 GMT -5
Releasing the song tomorrow would be a smart strategy imo. Roar was released one day before Applause. Both probably had about equal hype, and Roar preformed so much better. Am i like the only person that genuinely enjoyed "Applause" more so than "Roar"? Even my parents were crazy about "Roar" and im just like Blechhh!!! But anyway im curious to see what both Rihanna and Taylor have in store for their next Eras!
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Post by kanimal on Aug 18, 2014 3:04:22 GMT -5
Releasing the song tomorrow would be a smart strategy imo. Roar was released one day before Applause. Both probably had about equal hype, and Roar preformed so much better. Am i like the only person that genuinely enjoyed "Applause" more so than "Roar"? Even my parents were crazy about "Roar" and im just like Blechhh!!! But anyway im curious to see what both Rihanna and Taylor have in store for their next Eras! Even though I didn't think Roar was amazing when it came out, I recognize that it was the perfect realization of every stylistic element Katy had been developing up until that point in her career. It was a PERFECT Katy Perry song. Applause wasn't a terrible song, but it was the opposite - it seemed to strip everything that made her Gaga. It didn't feature any of the weirder, more theatrical elements. It didn't have a very vivid self-empowerment message. It wasn't as much of a dance-jam as some of her earlier work. It just wasn't her.
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Aug 18, 2014 4:01:54 GMT -5
I wish she would retire from singing all together. Her voice is so irritating and she's a weak role model for women....and she ruined Shakira's chance of going top 10 with "Can't Remeber To Forget You"
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Post by cause_for_celebration on Aug 18, 2014 4:49:48 GMT -5
I wish she would retire from singing all together. Her voice is so irritating and she's a weak role model for women....and she ruined Shakira's chance of going top 10 with "Can't Remeber To Forget You" Lol at Rihanna being the cause for the song not hitting top 10. Okay.
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Post by Dreams on Aug 18, 2014 5:23:12 GMT -5
I wish she would retire from singing all together. Her voice is so irritating and she's a weak role model for women....and she ruined Shakira's chance of going top 10 with "Can't Remeber To Forget You" Lol at Rihanna being the cause for the song not hitting top 10. Okay. I know, right? I was rolling my eyes reading his post but when I reached that part especially... BYE!
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Post by jjose712 on Aug 18, 2014 5:47:39 GMT -5
Releasing the song tomorrow would be a smart strategy imo. Roar was released one day before Applause. Both probably had about equal hype, and Roar preformed so much better. Am i like the only person that genuinely enjoyed "Applause" more so than "Roar"? Even my parents were crazy about "Roar" and im just like Blechhh!!! But anyway im curious to see what both Rihanna and Taylor have in store for their next Eras! No you are not the only one. Applause is a decent song, Roar is a poor version of Brave. I totally hate Roar, but it has a really nice video. Of course the plan wasn't release both songs the same week, but Gaga's era was doomed from the beginning, in fact there's a lot of precipitation since the release of Judas, the timing never worked in her favour. Anyway, even with their obvious differences Katy and Gaga are way more similar than Rihanna and Taylor. I think it's more dangerous release against someone who is direct competence
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Post by jjose712 on Aug 18, 2014 5:50:28 GMT -5
I wish she would retire from singing all together. Her voice is so irritating and she's a weak role model for women....and she ruined Shakira's chance of going top 10 with "Can't Remeber To Forget You" Oh come one, let's be serious. I agree that Rihanna is very far from being a role model, but we are talking about Shakira who blatantly say that the lesbo chic of her video was due she doesn't want Piqué to got upset, wich is machism at its finest (and totally absurd because i really doubt he has any problem with her kissing another guys, in fact he doesn't seem to have any problem with kissing another guys himself)
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Post by NeRD on Aug 18, 2014 8:11:37 GMT -5
I wish she would retire from singing all together. Her voice is so irritating and she's a weak role model for women....and she ruined Shakira's chance of going top 10 with "Can't Remeber To Forget You" LOL.
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Aug 18, 2014 8:13:31 GMT -5
I wish she would retire from singing all together. Her voice is so irritating and she's a weak role model for women....and she ruined Shakira's chance of going top 10 with "Can't Remeber To Forget You" Lol, if Rihanna hadn't been in the video for that softcore porn, nobody would have even known it existed.
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Post by hitseeker. on Aug 23, 2014 6:30:47 GMT -5
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Post by velaxti on Aug 24, 2014 5:02:47 GMT -5
I think Rihanna's break might hurt her success tbh. But I hope I'm wrong.
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Post by jjose712 on Aug 24, 2014 6:04:42 GMT -5
I think Rihanna's break might hurt her success tbh. But I hope I'm wrong. What break, she was on the chart non stop for months and months. Overexposure sure will hurt more in the long run than resting a couple of months. Generally if people wait a little they are more eager
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Post by Dreams on Aug 24, 2014 6:38:45 GMT -5
I think Rihanna's break might hurt her success tbh. But I hope I'm wrong. As long as she has a bunch of hot ass singles ready to release, Rihanna will be fine.
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Post by K. on Aug 24, 2014 9:47:40 GMT -5
The only thing the break will do is keep a weak single from doing well by default. If it's good it will smash.
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