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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jan 27, 2015 11:51:08 GMT -5
Damn, so much negativity for such a feel good song. Let the light in, people. Fun people will get this track. Negative nellies won't e.g. some of y'all. Not liking the track doesn't mean not getting it. There's not much to get with Maroon 5 anymore. They've become bland, and that's if you don't think they were never not bland.
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Post by Keelzit on Jan 27, 2015 13:50:24 GMT -5
Their sound has always been pure pop-rock so their recent material comes as a natural progression so as it fits to current trends. The poster who said that they're the male band equivalent to Katy Perry couldn't be more right but I also don't see how that could mean that they no longer have an identity.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jan 27, 2015 14:01:03 GMT -5
Because with their first few albums, you knew a Maroon 5 song when you heard it without having to look it up. Now, they blend in so well, there's nothing that distinguishes them. Not to mention the abundance of industry co-writers and producers that formulate their entire albums now. I love generic pop as much as any pop music fan but Maroon 5 are an example of a group who sacrificed something decent to become bland.
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Post by Keelzit on Jan 27, 2015 14:06:34 GMT -5
Because with their first few albums, you knew a Maroon 5 song when you heard it without having to look it up. Now, they blend in so well, there's nothing that distinguishes them. Not to mention the abundance of industry co-writers and producers that formulate their entire albums now. I love generic pop as much as any pop music fan but Maroon 5 are an example of a group who sacrificed something decent to become bland. I totally get what you're saying but at the same time I think that 'She Will Be Loved' or even 'This Love' wouldn't feel out of place in their latest album which is by far the poppiest they have ever been.
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Post by surfy on Jan 27, 2015 14:11:46 GMT -5
Because with their first few albums, you knew a Maroon 5 song when you heard it without having to look it up. Now, they blend in so well, there's nothing that distinguishes them. Not to mention the abundance of industry co-writers and producers that formulate their entire albums now. I love generic pop as much as any pop music fan but Maroon 5 are an example of a group who sacrificed something decent to become bland. I totally get what you're saying but at the same time I think that 'She Will Be Loved' or even 'This Love' wouldn't feel out of place in their latest album which is by far the poppiest they have ever been. Really??? I couldn't picture either of those songs on the new album...
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jan 27, 2015 14:24:21 GMT -5
Because with their first few albums, you knew a Maroon 5 song when you heard it without having to look it up. Now, they blend in so well, there's nothing that distinguishes them. Not to mention the abundance of industry co-writers and producers that formulate their entire albums now. I love generic pop as much as any pop music fan but Maroon 5 are an example of a group who sacrificed something decent to become bland. I totally get what you're saying but at the same time I think that 'She Will Be Loved' or even 'This Love' wouldn't feel out of place in their latest album which is by far the poppiest they have ever been. Naw, they'd totally be out of place on it. I suppose if they were re-recorded and remixed, they'd fit but both songs sound too organic to work within this album.
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Post by xykes on Jan 27, 2015 14:35:13 GMT -5
Because with their first few albums, you knew a Maroon 5 song when you heard it without having to look it up. Now, they blend in so well, there's nothing that distinguishes them. Not to mention the abundance of industry co-writers and producers that formulate their entire albums now. I love generic pop as much as any pop music fan but Maroon 5 are an example of a group who sacrificed something decent to become bland. The only real difference between the old songs and the new songs is the production. There's more of an electronic presence than there used to be...but, the tone, subject matter, lyrical content, and feel have not really changed. If something as superficial as production can convince you that a band is "completely different", then that says more about you than them. It means you aren't HEARING the true song. "She Will Be Loved" and "Love Somebody" could easily be brothers. "Shiver", "New Love" (a song on the V album), and "A Little of Your Time" (a song on It Won't Be Soon Before long) are clearly cut from the same cloth. If you can't hear the exact same funky "plinka-plink-plinka-plink" James Valentine guitar that's on the hooks of "This Love", "Misery", and "It Was Always You" then you simply aren't listening. And, of course, as long as Adam Levine sounds like Adam Levine, you aren't going to mistake a Maroon 5 song for anyone else. Ever. Actually, I'd say that combination of James and Adam is the sonic "identity" of Maroon 5. "Animals", for example, sounds exactly like a Maroon 5 song for this reason. If you hear them perform these songs live, it's even more obvious. They can bounce from album to album, and nothing sounds out of place.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jan 27, 2015 16:11:38 GMT -5
You know what? You're right. I am the only person ever who's noticed a shift away from their sound over the years.
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Jan 27, 2015 16:31:18 GMT -5
It's not a matter of being a "negative Nellie", it's just that the song should have been titled 'Benadryl' or something instead because it's just so boring and makes me wanna zzzzzzz. I love M5 but this is so bland to me.
That being said, totally get why it's going to be another big hit for them.
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Post by Hurricane Lee on Jan 27, 2015 17:35:02 GMT -5
Haven't gotten around to this video yet but did they ever claim that these were real weddings?
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Post by slamina on Jan 27, 2015 18:18:49 GMT -5
If the masses eat up their music like they are doing with this song, then I don't see why they would stop. It seems to be what radio PDs and music purchasers want from them. If you find it boring or bland, that's unfortunate but that seems to be the minority opinion at this point.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jan 27, 2015 18:22:47 GMT -5
If the masses eat up their music like they are doing with this song, then I don't see why they would stop. It seems to be what radio PDs and music purchasers want from them. If you find it boring or bland, that's unfortunate but that seems to be the minority opinion at this point. I don't disagree with you one bit for your first bit. If it works and gives them hit after hit, they've no reason to stop. For the second bit, about the minority opinion, I don't agree with as much. There's a ton of politics and stuff behind the scenes that help certain acts along the way. Obviously this is a very basic statement and probably an unfounded one to make but I don't think it's as simple as "the majority love their sound."
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Post by surfy on Jan 27, 2015 18:26:23 GMT -5
Sure they have huge hits, but their sound is very generic and bland... but it works for them!
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Post by slamina on Jan 27, 2015 18:31:45 GMT -5
The majority loves their sound is a very broad statement. It would be difficult to defend or refute. I do believe there is some valid evidence, however, that the majority doesn't find this song bland. Pop radio is embracing it with open arms and the audience seems to be responding favorably based on the strong sales. If you compare its performance thus far to say that of "Birthday" which never broke the top ten on iTunes, I think the general public seems to like this song more than they would an average boring/bland song. Just my opinion. :)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2015 18:57:02 GMT -5
The majority loves their sound is a very broad statement. It would be difficult to defend or refute. I do believe there is some valid evidence, however, that the majority doesn't find this song bland. Pop radio is embracing it with open arms and the audience seems to be responding favorably based on the strong sales. If you compare its performance thus far to say that of "Birthday" which never broke the top ten on iTunes, I think the general public seems to like this song more than they would an average boring/bland song. Just my opinion. :) Generally, the general public eats up anything that they can enjoy for a little while, though. Sales/popularity have as much to do with visibility and striking while the iron is hot as any other factor (s) at play. Personally, I enjoyed M5 more when they started out; now they're throwing out carbon copies of their own past work, and (for now) it's sticking. The Voice really did wonders for their momentum, but I think they've become too bland because they've got to keep the gravy train rolling for as long as possible.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jan 27, 2015 19:06:21 GMT -5
I do believe there is some valid evidence, however, that the majority doesn't find this song bland. I would argue the exact opposite actually. Pop radio, as a whole, is meant to be bland in some ways. There's a reason why polarizing songs don't usually do well on radio a lot of the time because of the risk of losing listeners. Therefore, in order to play it safe, the songs do tend to have to fit within a certain dynamic. It has to sound 'nice' but it shouldn't stand out because, especially for people who have the radio on in the background like in offices or stores, once the radio is noticed, there's a risk of having it switched or turned off.
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Post by xykes on Jan 27, 2015 20:40:07 GMT -5
You know what? You're right. I am the only person ever who's noticed a shift away from their sound over the years. Well, we all know if a lot of people think something, it must be true. I mean, the horizon looks flat. Yup, must be flat. No need to investigate THAT further...
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Post by surfy on Jan 27, 2015 20:47:37 GMT -5
You know what? You're right. I am the only person ever who's noticed a shift away from their sound over the years. Well, we all know if a lot of people think something, it must be true. I mean, the horizon looks flat. Yup, must be flat. No need to investigate THAT further... Irrelevant point. If a lot of people are hearing a change in sound, 9/10 times there is an actual change of sound happening. :o This isn't like a rumor or Hollywood gossip, this is the evolution of a band's sound... nothing to investigate there.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Jan 27, 2015 20:56:48 GMT -5
I mean, there is a pretty clear and direct shift in their music in the last two cds specifically. Even the band admits that-Adam basically said they were going shamelessly straightforward pop because their old sound doesn't sell anymore. It hasn't been a complete and utter change like someone going from rap to rock or something, but it has definitely been a shift. But, it is a shift that works because the general public that listens to the radio (or the people who come up with programming) generally tend to like generic and bland. Pop music is like comfort food where most want something they have literally already heard. That is why 300 Dr. Luke songs that sounded identical hit #1 (or top 5) in the last 3-4 years. That is why this is roaring up the charts besides being a song that we basically already heard in the last year released by someone else. Now, occasionally something different connects and the "sound" people want changes every few years-there are always outliers that manage to sneak in. But ultimately they are a SMART band because they know that being wildly successful right now for them as a band means releasing pretty generic and bland songs at times. I don't judge them for it.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jan 27, 2015 21:37:45 GMT -5
Yeah, I mean, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying they "sold out" or anything like that. I'd probably have done the same as them if I were Adam Levine. I'm simply commenting that on a personal level, I don't care for their material as much as I used to and I do hear that a lot from people who used to like them before, but clearly their music fits in with pop radio so kudos to them for getting success 10+ years after their debut. It's rare.
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Post by Green Baron on Jan 27, 2015 22:00:37 GMT -5
No, they sold out.
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Post by slamina on Jan 27, 2015 22:54:36 GMT -5
Well they're as popular as ever so I doubt they care if people think they sold out tbh. As long as they keep the pop jams coming I'm good.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jan 28, 2015 0:03:55 GMT -5
You sign a record deal, you've sold out.
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Post by Green Baron on Jan 28, 2015 0:12:29 GMT -5
You sign a record deal, you've sold out. Not true. Many bands can sign major label deals without changing their sound drastically to appeal to a wider audience.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jan 28, 2015 0:25:41 GMT -5
You sign a record deal, you've sold out. Not true. Many bands can sign major label deals without changing their sound drastically to appeal to a wider audience. Nothing wrong with wanting to appeal to a wide audience. An artist can only do the same thing so long before they themselves get bored of it. Plus, in today's industry, you kind of have to do what you can to even survive financially. I've no qualms with artists who "sell out" and I absolutely detest the term 'sell out'.
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Post by Green Baron on Jan 28, 2015 0:34:54 GMT -5
Not true. Many bands can sign major label deals without changing their sound drastically to appeal to a wider audience. Nothing wrong with wanting to appeal to a wide audience. An artist can only do the same thing so long before they themselves get bored of it. Plus, in today's industry, you kind of have to do what you can to even survive financially. I've no qualms with artists who "sell out" and I absolutely detest the term 'sell out'. When their sound becomes different than the one you like, then that's where the term comes in if the artist is doing it to become more pop-friendly. It's a matter of personal preference. If you like your Maroon 5 ultra-poppified, then good for you.
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Post by surfy on Jan 28, 2015 0:36:14 GMT -5
The question should be does Maroon 5 like the music they make? If so, they aren't sell outs.
Btw I hate that term too...
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jan 28, 2015 0:57:42 GMT -5
When their sound becomes different than the one you like, then that's where the term comes in if the artist is doing it to become more pop-friendly. It's a matter of personal preference. If you like your Maroon 5 ultra-poppified, then good for you. "You" as in the band themselves or "you" as in me/you? Because if they like the sound, it's their prerogative. Nothing wrong with going ultra-pop if you want. I would. I love pop music!
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Post by Az Paynter on Jan 28, 2015 6:48:55 GMT -5
POP: 26 21 MAROON 5 Sugar 4572 2393 2179 29.024
+324 Spins +54 Bullet +1.752 Audience
HOT AC: 24 17 MAROON 5 Sugar 2236 1209 1027 14.576
+112 Spins +3 Bullet +0.850 Audience
AC: 146 33 MAROON 5 Sugar 70 2 68 0.201
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Post by pnobelysk on Jan 28, 2015 22:45:18 GMT -5
New peak of 6 on the hot 100 this week
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