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Post by Love Plastic Love on Jan 4, 2015 16:18:26 GMT -5
I swear I saw the commercial featuring this song 4700 times over the holidays. Holy shit they are playing it EVERY commercial break. I am kind of surprised it isn't hanging at least top 200 with that exposure.
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Post by MiniMusic on Jan 4, 2015 16:23:11 GMT -5
So what is the actual deal with Gwen's project right now? Is Spark the Fire gonna be sent for adds this month? They should definitely just scrap this song and start all over.
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Post by foxxden on Jan 4, 2015 16:24:30 GMT -5
I swear I saw the commercial featuring this song 4700 times over the holidays. Holy s**t they are playing it EVERY commercial break. I am kind of surprised it isn't hanging at least top 200 with that exposure. It should be doing better on Itunes without a doubt but don't forget the song leaked online a full two weeks before it was released. Plus it's iTunes release was severely botched the first day and was not made available for everyone until hours after her performance on The Voice and music video was released. I can only imagine how much sales were lost by people who just downloaded it online when they saw it wasn't available to purchase.
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Post by surfy on Jan 4, 2015 18:09:48 GMT -5
I swear I saw the commercial featuring this song 4700 times over the holidays. Holy s**t they are playing it EVERY commercial break. I am kind of surprised it isn't hanging at least top 200 with that exposure. It should be doing better on Itunes without a doubt but don't forget the song leaked online a full two weeks before it was released. Plus it's iTunes release was severely botched the first day and was not made available for everyone until hours after her performance on The Voice and music video was released. I can only imagine how much sales were lost by people who just downloaded it online when they saw it wasn't available to purchase. That doesn't matter! It was in the top 100 after release and quickly fell down and out. No one is buying this song! (Well not enough to amount to anything) You would think after a NYE performance, the song would AT LEAST be in top 200! (All the other performances that night rose on iTunes) Sooooo.....
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Post by musiciscool on Jan 4, 2015 18:49:33 GMT -5
All I can say is "move on to the next official (and way better) single."
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Post by foxxden on Jan 4, 2015 19:13:42 GMT -5
It should be doing better on Itunes without a doubt but don't forget the song leaked online a full two weeks before it was released. Plus it's iTunes release was severely botched the first day and was not made available for everyone until hours after her performance on The Voice and music video was released. I can only imagine how much sales were lost by people who just downloaded it online when they saw it wasn't available to purchase. That doesn't matter! It was in the top 100 after release and quickly fell down and out. No one is buying this song! (Well not enough to amount to anything) You would think after a NYE performance, the song would AT LEAST be in top 200! (All the other performances that night rose on iTunes) Sooooo..... Yes it does matter! Like I explained in my post at the bottom of the previous page "Spark the Fire" was not performed on the iconic Rockin New Years Eve telecast on ABC (previously hosted by Dick Clark, now hosted by Ryan Seacrest). Gwen/Pharrell performed on the NBC version with Carson Daly which is lower rated and a much lower profile gig. Besides most of the songs that rose after being performed on NYE were already Radio hits or are currently rising so it's not an apples to apples comparison. If people don't like the song, that's fine but I don't understand the constant trolling of this thread and exaggeration of expectations.
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Post by surfy on Jan 4, 2015 19:21:47 GMT -5
That doesn't matter! It was in the top 100 after release and quickly fell down and out. No one is buying this song! (Well not enough to amount to anything) You would think after a NYE performance, the song would AT LEAST be in top 200! (All the other performances that night rose on iTunes) Sooooo..... Yes it does matter! Like I explained in my post at the bottom of the previous page "Spark the Fire" was not performed on the iconic Rockin New Years Eve telecast on ABC (previously hosted by Dick Clark, now hosted by Ryan Seacrest). Gwen/Pharrell performed on the NBC version with Carson Daly which is lower rated and a much lower profile gig. Besides most of the songs that rose after being performed on NYE were already Radio hits or are currently rising so it's not an apples to apples comparison. If people don't like the song, that's fine but I don't understand the constant trolling of this thread and exaggeration of expectations. We're not "trolling" though, we're saying the song is dead and it's not connecting (it was performed in front of millions!) and we're saying she needs to move on already.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Jan 4, 2015 19:49:32 GMT -5
I think they will be moving on. I cannot imagine any label in the world giving this song an actual radio push after the chilly reception. They definitely botched stuff regarding its release, but I think if the song was connecting at all it would not be struggling this badly even with a lot of performances and exposure. I am not saying it should be top 10 on Itunes, but it is completely dead right now. So, I am assuming this will never get an official radio release, but not sure what they will do after that? Wait for a No Doubt cd? Record some new songs? Release another song from the cd as the second (third?) single?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2015 19:51:45 GMT -5
It's so weird to me when a song isn't being well received, yet the label keeps pushing it and pushing it and pushing it. It's obvious the public is not into this. Why not shift the promotional opportunities to something else? Makes me nervous that they're less confident about the options they have left...
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Post by Ling-Ling on Jan 4, 2015 19:53:26 GMT -5
It should be doing better on Itunes without a doubt but don't forget the song leaked online a full two weeks before it was released. Plus it's iTunes release was severely botched the first day and was not made available for everyone until hours after her performance on The Voice and music video was released. I can only imagine how much sales were lost by people who just downloaded it online when they saw it wasn't available to purchase. Really? That's why you think it underperformed? It's not like tens of thousands of people went online to download it illegally after her Voice performance (hell, I doubt even dozens did). In the long run, it doesn't make that big of a difference. Tons of songs leak early, have delayed releases, etc. and still manage to sell. As for none of her performances being on big shows, regardless, all together, millions more people heard the song, in combination with the tens of millions who are seeing the commercial. Still... nothing. It flew right down the charts quicker than it came because it didn't connect and it's not a good song. As for trolling? Nah. It's just hard to turn it's absence of hype, complete non-performance and lack of quality into any kind of positive convo. I understand you're a Gwen fan and everything, just like the rest of us. But can you seriously not see this for the flop it is or is officially going to be when it goes for adds? Regardless of whether you like the song or not... just because we love a song does not make it a single.
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Post by foxxden on Jan 4, 2015 19:55:16 GMT -5
Yes it does matter! Like I explained in my post at the bottom of the previous page "Spark the Fire" was not performed on the iconic Rockin New Years Eve telecast on ABC (previously hosted by Dick Clark, now hosted by Ryan Seacrest). Gwen/Pharrell performed on the NBC version with Carson Daly which is lower rated and a much lower profile gig. Besides most of the songs that rose after being performed on NYE were already Radio hits or are currently rising so it's not an apples to apples comparison. If people don't like the song, that's fine but I don't understand the constant trolling of this thread and exaggeration of expectations. We're not "trolling" though, we're saying the song is dead and it's not connecting (it was performed in front of millions!) and we're saying she needs to move on already. There's nothing to move on from though. The song hasn't even been sent to Radio yet and it's unclear if it ever will. It would be pointless releasing a new song right in the middle of the holiday freeze so Gwen likely performed 'Spark the Fire" a few times on TV in December just to have some promo in the meantime. Now that the holidays are over we'll see what her label will do with her project. It's frustrating of course but constantly posting "omg it's not in the top 200, move on!" in this thread is just as pointless and some people should heed their own advice and "move on" if they don't like the song. ;)
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Post by Au$tin on Jan 4, 2015 22:41:45 GMT -5
Oh, the desperation...
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Post by allow that on Jan 5, 2015 10:45:35 GMT -5
It's so weird to me when a song isn't being well received, yet the label keeps pushing it and pushing it and pushing it. It's obvious the public is not into this. Why not shift the promotional opportunities to something else? Makes me nervous that they're less confident about the options they have left... Agreed. I feel like Gwen is in denial over the song and insisting on standing by it. Stubborn artist syndrome.
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Post by Spidey on Jan 5, 2015 11:08:00 GMT -5
They really need to move on from this song. It is a total flop.
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Post by M1tchD on Jan 5, 2015 11:31:04 GMT -5
So THIS is the terrible song I keep hearing in commercials.
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Post by omgomgimbackagain on Jan 5, 2015 12:14:48 GMT -5
We're not "trolling" though, we're saying the song is dead and it's not connecting (it was performed in front of millions!) and we're saying she needs to move on already. There's nothing to move on from though. The song hasn't even been sent to Radio yet and it's unclear if it ever will. It would be pointless releasing a new song right in the middle of the holiday freeze so Gwen likely performed 'Spark the Fire" a few times on TV in December just to have some promo in the meantime. Now that the holidays are over we'll see what her label will do with her project. It's frustrating of course but constantly posting "omg it's not in the top 200, move on!" in this thread is just as pointless and some people should heed their own advice and "move on" if they don't like the song. ;) Couldn't agree more! I'm kinda tired of people who constantly moan about it being a flop and that she should move on, but the big question is: Have you actually bought the song at all? Sometimes I doubt they have... That said, you can't just give up on a song you released a month ago. At least she can say she tried. No need to drag her down. Just sit and wait to see her next move.
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Post by surfy on Jan 5, 2015 12:28:01 GMT -5
There's nothing to move on from though. The song hasn't even been sent to Radio yet and it's unclear if it ever will. It would be pointless releasing a new song right in the middle of the holiday freeze so Gwen likely performed 'Spark the Fire" a few times on TV in December just to have some promo in the meantime. Now that the holidays are over we'll see what her label will do with her project. It's frustrating of course but constantly posting "omg it's not in the top 200, move on!" in this thread is just as pointless and some people should heed their own advice and "move on" if they don't like the song. ;) Couldn't agree more! I'm kinda tired of people who constantly moan about it being a flop and that she should move on, but the big question is: Have you actually bought the song at all? Sometimes I doubt they have... That said, you can't just give up on a song you released a month ago. At least she can say she tried. No need to drag her down. Just sit and wait to see her next move. Umm we didn't buy the song because it's bad. And we're not dragging Gwen, were dragging this song, we want her to move to a new better song because we want her to succeed!!!
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Post by omgomgimbackagain on Jan 5, 2015 12:41:55 GMT -5
^ No, you don't want her to succeed. And you're not a real fan. Because if that was the case you'd still support her. Don't be surprised if her new album will be scrapped cause of the lukewarm reception of her recent singles. People like to moan, but at the end of the day they don't support the artist they supposedly love (yeah right lol). So don't expect them to succeed 90% of the time. Cause it won't happen. I just think it's stupid to tell her to move on when you haven't even bought her single. BUT I bet you sneakily got it illegally and still listen to it on occasion. Shame on you.
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Post by allow that on Jan 5, 2015 12:42:56 GMT -5
Blind standom at its best. Setting their own fave up for failure by foolishly supporting a DOA track instead of rallying for something better that will give them a chance to succeed. We've read this story how many times now on Pulse? Smh.
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Post by Au$tin on Jan 5, 2015 12:43:47 GMT -5
^ No, you don't want her to succeed. And you're not a real fan. Because if that was the case you'd still support her. Don't be surprised if her new album will be scrapped cause of the lukewarm reception of her recent singles. People like to moan, but at the end of the day they don't support the artist they supposedly love (yeah right lol). So don't expect them to succeed 90% of the time. Cause it won't happen. I just think it's stupid to tell her to move on when you haven't even bought her single. BUT I bet you sneakily got it illegally and still listen to it on occasion. Shame on you. This may be the dumbest argument I've ever seen. There's a difference between being a fan and being blind. A fan will support an artist, yes, but a blind fan follows them in support no matter what they do. Supporting a song that is obviously going nowhere is being a blind fan. A fan would want their artist to succeed, and by moving on to a new, better single that is likely to be a hit is better than supporting a song that's obviously a massive flop that's clicking with few people. And, no, I did not download this song illegally because I do not like the song because the song is bad. Shame on you for assuming something idiotic like that. I'll have you know that I own both of Gwen's albums and legally purchased "Baby Don't Lie." Why? Because they're good. Why didn't I get this song? Because it's bad. Why do I want her to move on? Not because I dislike the song, but because it's obviously not doing a single thing anywhere despite countless televised performances and a commercial airing very often containing the song. They're just continuing to waste money by trying to make this song become a hit. From a business standpoint, it makes no sense to continue to support this song. They should move on to a new single that has a better chance of clicking with audiences.
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Post by surfy on Jan 5, 2015 12:46:03 GMT -5
^ No, you don't want her to succeed. And you're not a real fan. Because if that was the case you'd still support her. Don't be surprised if her new album will be scrapped cause of the lukewarm reception of her recent singles. People like to moan, but at the end of the day they don't support the artist they supposedly love (yeah right lol). So don't expect them to succeed 90% of the time. Cause it won't happen. I just think it's stupid to tell her to move on when you haven't even bought her single. BUT I bet you sneakily got it illegally and still listen to it on occasion. Shame on you. WOAH WOAH WHOAH WOAH! I can be a fan of someone and not support a crappy song, I don't reward trash. I do moan because I know she can do better, and I liked "Baby Don't Lie" and I was upset she moved on from it, so DO NOT tell me that I should be shamed for not liking a song by an artist I am actually a fan of. And no, I listened to it on Spotify LEGALLY. Stop talking shit about people you don't know, please.
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Post by allow that on Jan 5, 2015 12:51:05 GMT -5
DO NOT tell me that I should be shamed for not liking a song by an artist I am actually a fan of. And no, I listened to it on Spotify LEGALLY. Stop talking s**t about people you don't know, please. surfy and omgomgimbackagain rn:
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Post by kanimal on Jan 5, 2015 12:52:13 GMT -5
^ No, you don't want her to succeed. And you're not a real fan. Because if that was the case you'd still support her. Don't be surprised if her new album will be scrapped cause of the lukewarm reception of her recent singles. People like to moan, but at the end of the day they don't support the artist they supposedly love (yeah right lol). So don't expect them to succeed 90% of the time. Cause it won't happen. I just think it's stupid to tell her to move on when you haven't even bought her single. BUT I bet you sneakily got it illegally and still listen to it on occasion. Shame on you. Wouldn't the reason someone wants an artist to move on from a given single often be the same reason that person didn't buy the single?
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Post by omgomgimbackagain on Jan 5, 2015 12:56:32 GMT -5
Well, it's trash for you. Not her best single ever, but it's a catchy tune. I'm actually very pleased she's been promoting this song cause she believes in it and it represents where she's at right now. I also find it funny when most people said they wanted Gwen's sound back and that BDL was so generic (which I agree. It doesn't represent her), but once she releases a song that sounds VERY Gwen they moan about it. lol Have you actually listened to her music catalogue at all? Go back to your dear Ariana. She's the kind of artist that can release a turd that people will still buy it, no matter what.
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Post by allow that on Jan 5, 2015 13:00:05 GMT -5
I'm actually very pleased she's been promoting this song cause it represents where she's at right now. Well that's the root cause of the problem then. A "Hollaback Girl" sequel in 2015. Quick, everyone grab their time machine.
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Post by omgomgimbackagain on Jan 5, 2015 13:02:44 GMT -5
I'm actually very pleased she's been promoting this song cause it represents where she's at right now. Well that's the root cause of the problem then. A "Hollaback Girl" sequel in 2015. Quick, everyone grab their time machine. Your point? How many artists have tracks with similar sound? I see STF more like a nostalgic track but at the same time it has a modern feel.
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Post by josh on Jan 5, 2015 13:12:12 GMT -5
I would like to take this chance to say goodbye because your arguing and trolling will lead you to being banned very shortly. It was fun?
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Post by omgomgimbackagain on Jan 5, 2015 13:15:07 GMT -5
I would like to take this chance to say goodbye because your arguing and trolling will lead you to being banned very shortly. It was fun? Banned for telling you that you're all deluded people who will only buy a single if it's successful? Actually I've read posts from people saying that they were waiting for Baby Don't Lie to smash to see if it's worth buying. lol Keep buying the shit that is in the top 20 then. You're doing it right. I'm done here.
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Post by josh on Jan 5, 2015 13:16:47 GMT -5
Bye!
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Jan 5, 2015 13:22:15 GMT -5
Objectively speaking and as a big Gwen fan for musically and as an overall artist, I was blown away that they let a radio hit stall - BDL hit top 20 and certainly could have gone higher with some type of push. Artists in 40s have rare chance to get on Pop radio Gwen and Fergie did it at same time. If they had really "gone for it" with BDL, it would have made future releases easier to get acceptance at radio. This song has done nothing for me and I've tried many times. Gwen did say she hoped for both solo release and ND in 2015, so there is more music. It will just be harder without the easy platform (TV) to get attention.
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