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Post by Dielawn on Feb 8, 2015 2:51:50 GMT -5
If the responses in this thread are reflections of how far we are from being able to have a real discussion about race relations....
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Feb 8, 2015 2:59:39 GMT -5
In all honesty, I think the situation has been explained several times already. There might be elements of R&B in some of her songs but for the most part, they were never really promoted to the format and Celine simply isn't an R&B singer. It's not really anything more or less than that. There are elements of rock music in her songs too so why aren't you wondering why she doesn't have a fanbase consisting of white males? I'm not quite sure what it is you're looking for otherwise.
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Post by allow that on Feb 8, 2015 13:47:48 GMT -5
There's also better examples of one-off songs from popular pop artists in the 90's "sounding R&B" and not crossing over. Madonna's "Take A Bow" was much more obviously influenced by R&B (and even had Babyface's vocals prominently heard throughout!) than any of Celine's material. Why would Urban radio play one track from a pop artist in the album-driven 90's when its parent album was all pop? If the artist has no attachment or sense of loyalty to the format?
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Post by Glove Slap on Feb 8, 2015 13:51:17 GMT -5
If the responses in this thread are reflections of how far we are from being able to have a real discussion about race relations.... Indeed. Lyrical extract: Where is the love that lets the sunlight in to start again? The love that sees no color lines?Please never close this thread. Now THIS can be bumped in 5 years and still be funny.
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Post by Oprah on Feb 8, 2015 16:49:36 GMT -5
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Post by Landmarx on Feb 8, 2015 17:46:07 GMT -5
I won't be surprised if this thread is going to be locked after the mods laugh at it Just like the white man to call for an end to a peaceful assembly.
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Post by Luckie Starchild on Feb 8, 2015 19:49:09 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2015 3:05:35 GMT -5
If the responses in this thread are reflections of how far we are from being able to have a real discussion about race relations.... The year is 2015, and the white man is still facing discrimination at the hands of the black community. They have consistently ignored the efforts of R&B(ish) legend Celine Dion-- the injustice!
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Post by #LisaRinna on Feb 9, 2015 6:20:18 GMT -5
I'm SCREAMING @ @antigonerising.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2015 12:12:27 GMT -5
holy crap this thing is still going?
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Feb 9, 2015 12:34:14 GMT -5
holy crap this thing is still going? You know you still getting them "like" notifications... stop acting coy after that character assassination.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2015 12:48:24 GMT -5
holy crap this thing is still going? You know you still getting them "like" notifications... stop acting coy after that character assassination. Oh, I never said that lol! I'll check back for a quote or tag, and my last notification was Mario's tag so that's why I'm in here now. But for most threads like this, I assume the discussion is going to die out after everyone has had their fun (I myself am out of bullets now so I got nothing to add). So if I just see a bunch of "so-and-so liked your post" I don't often click to go back to the thread.
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Post by divasummer on Feb 15, 2015 12:55:58 GMT -5
I was hoping we could have an adult discussion about why songs with R&B styled production didn't happen to crossover and what it was about Celine Dion that didn't appeal to the BLACK (get over it) community. Sigh :'( Fine. If "black" (more specifically, "black American" since you're determined to ignore the Jamaican love) is the game you want to play: 1. Celine is not black. 2. Celine, despite being a fan of and influenced by artists like Aretha and Whitney, did not purposely record music with r&b undertones or try to sing like a "black" (r&b) singer. Her voice was very straightforward power pop and if anything, it lent itself more toward rock along the lines of '80s Heart and Queen. 3. Celine did not appear on "black" tv shows or radio stations to promote her music. 4. Celine can't dance for s**t. No rhythm. None. The woman couldn't find the beat if someone handed her a pair of Dr. Dre's headphones. Again, you're surprised she didn't cross over into the urban format because...? If you're really a member of the black community then you already know how selective we are about who we 'accept' or let in. Hell we almost kicked Usher and Nicki out of the tribe over a handful of dance-pop and they are two of our own. So no, there is seriously no reason to ponder why we didn't accept outsider Celine back in the day. If anything you should be asking the reverse - given how picky and snobbish we are about who we will let in (or allow to stay in), how do a few people manage to squeak through anyway. Now this is without going in on the obvious flaw that is equating r&b solely with the black community, or vice versa. The reason I suggested you alter the title (well besides poking a little fun at allow that and Jazzy) is because there's no rule that says black people only listen to r&b music. Like I said, my sister is a fool for some Celine, and I love her too; last time I checked our birth certificates said we were black. I know plenty of black people who think Celine is great, and none of us would ever consider her r&b. So try not to let your brain explode on this point, but it's entirely possible that 'black community,' 'r&b community,' and 'Celine Dion fans' are more of a Venn diagram than you or Kevin Hart can conceptualize. Was that adult enough for you? Num.3- She did perform on The Arsineo Hall show back in the day Num.4- Celine does have rhythm she's just gawky and awkward as all hell when she dances. LOL
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Post by Kishi KCM on Feb 15, 2015 21:18:41 GMT -5
I was in Jamaica after Titanic released and LORD, "My Heart Will Go On" played SO MUCH! So did "How Do I Live".
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Post by allow that on Oct 21, 2015 17:00:21 GMT -5
I keep getting notifications that a post was liked in this thread and getting false hopes that this thread was bumped. But it wasn't! Until NOW. Ha!
So anyway last month I visited walked by the church in Montreal where Celine got married. I saw a black person there. The influence!
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Post by Waveyβ¨οΈ on Oct 22, 2015 9:57:49 GMT -5
I keep getting notifications that a post was liked in this thread and getting false hopes that this thread was bumped. But it wasn't! Until NOW. Ha! So anyway last month I visited walked by the church in Montreal where Celine got married. I saw a black person there. The influence! HOLLERING.
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Post by Glove Slap on Apr 27, 2018 8:23:06 GMT -5
I saw a Black woman on the subway listening to the Slaying Into You album (and yes, it was the album and not one track) yesterday. Donny, Mike, Jeff, Joe Budden, manlyfingers, and the woke police aren't going to shame these powerful Black women away from their CΓ©line!
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Apr 27, 2018 9:37:18 GMT -5
We started Black History Month off right 3 years ago!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2018 9:39:08 GMT -5
Please never close this thread. Now THIS can be bumped in 5 years and still be funny. We should always bump this thread at least once a year to commemorate its beauty
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2018 16:50:25 GMT -5
I read this again at least once a month. I never knew Celine was huge in Jamaica probably the greatest thing I've ever learned from Pulse.
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Post by π―π² lucy88 π―π² on Apr 27, 2018 17:40:10 GMT -5
Jamaicans (West Indians, really) LOVE Celine Dion. Google it. My family is from Jamaica and I find that to be very true. My dad loves Celine Dion's music.
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Post by Luckie Starchild on May 27, 2019 5:54:18 GMT -5
My family is from Jamaica and I find that to be very true. My dad loves Celine Dion's music. Your dad has great taste!
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Post by Mylo13 π on May 27, 2019 6:03:15 GMT -5
Welp lol
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Post by π―π² lucy88 π―π² on May 27, 2019 8:45:19 GMT -5
My family is from Jamaica and I find that to be very true. My dad loves Celine Dion's music. Your dad has great taste! Thank you! π
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Post by divasummer on May 27, 2019 10:06:23 GMT -5
OH MY GOD This is worse than the Bon Appetit Katy performances I don't think Celine seriously thinks she's giving it and is just having fun. lol Go Celine! I think she looked cute. lol Can't a girl just have a little fun.
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Post by rainie on May 29, 2019 18:50:01 GMT -5
next up: why is Andy Grammar not more popular amongst the black community?
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Post by Dielawn on Jul 10, 2019 1:20:47 GMT -5
next up: why is Andy Grammar not more popular amongst the black community? He doesn't do music that could be mistaken for R&B
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Post by Au$tin on Jul 10, 2019 1:37:57 GMT -5
next up: why is Andy Grammar not more popular amongst the black community? He doesn't do music that could be mistaken for R&B Have you heard Honey, I'm Good?
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Post by Dielawn on Jul 10, 2019 1:41:53 GMT -5
He doesn't do music that could be mistaken for R&B Have you heard Honey, I'm Good? ππ The most Hot AC song ever made
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jul 10, 2019 6:27:10 GMT -5
next up: why is Andy Grammar not more popular amongst the black community? He doesn't do music that could be mistaken for R&B So Iβm doing a consensus and maybe you can help. Do you think only black people listen to R&B? Do you suppose all black people listens to R&B? Do you think there is a black person somewhere who doesnβt listen to R&B or nah?
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