allow that
Diamond Member
Fall into the atlas
Joined: November 2005
Posts: 14,788
|
Post by allow that on Jul 20, 2015 13:09:12 GMT -5
I doubt they're promoting this song since Sam's collaboration with Disclosure is soon to be released. That's Disclosure's song though. One has nothing to do with the other.
|
|
crazyfun1
New Member
Joined: October 2003
Posts: 474
|
Post by crazyfun1 on Jul 20, 2015 14:45:35 GMT -5
I'm a little surprised of the daily talk shows haven't had him on to perform LIC.. At least Ellen.
|
|
|
Post by suttonplace on Jul 20, 2015 18:31:43 GMT -5
I'm a little surprised of the daily talk shows haven't had him on to perform LIC.. At least Ellen. maybe because he had vocal cord surgery and hasn't been able to perform for two months (or whatever?); you can't book tv promo performances when you can't talk or sing
|
|
crazyfun1
New Member
Joined: October 2003
Posts: 474
|
Post by crazyfun1 on Jul 21, 2015 4:46:42 GMT -5
He's back and touring now.
|
|
pnobelysk
Diamond Member
Joined: November 2009
Posts: 10,115
|
Post by pnobelysk on Jul 21, 2015 21:53:45 GMT -5
I'm a little surprised of the daily talk shows haven't had him on to perform LIC.. At least Ellen. Pretty sure Ellen is on break until Septmber ...
|
|
david079
New Member
Joined: June 2013
Posts: 13
|
Post by david079 on Jul 22, 2015 14:54:48 GMT -5
#108 on us itunes. This can be a hit if sam promotes it.
|
|
crazyfun1
New Member
Joined: October 2003
Posts: 474
|
Post by crazyfun1 on Jul 22, 2015 19:28:35 GMT -5
According to his Facebook page he's having vocal issues again. His show for tomorrow night had been postponed.
|
|
downsouth
New Member
Joined: January 2012
Posts: 248
|
Post by downsouth on Jul 22, 2015 21:04:48 GMT -5
He cancels a lot of shows. He sang in Tampa last night and seemed fine except his sunburn. Going forward, I'd be hesitant to buy a ticket if he keeps this up. Lots of singers have vocal surgery. Tove Lo had it recently. He seems to have more issues even after surgery. Makes me wonder if there is more going on.
|
|
crazyfun1
New Member
Joined: October 2003
Posts: 474
|
Post by crazyfun1 on Jul 23, 2015 9:17:24 GMT -5
I will cross my fingers that his show in St Louis next week is a GO since I have tickets to it. If not I'll go if he reschedules. I'm thinking more is going on with him or his voice than his team is saying or they're booking him too much after his surgery.
|
|
jjose712
4x Platinum Member
Joined: October 2012
Posts: 4,372
|
Post by jjose712 on Jul 23, 2015 9:34:27 GMT -5
In my opinion he needs to go to vocal training, he has a big voice, it seems he has control over it but if the technique is not the best he could damage his voice.
He lost a lot of weight in too little time, and i know he likes the change, but lost of weight is way better if it's gradual.
Anyway, he won't be the first artist that has to deal with a tour with vocal problems. His team needs to be careful with the schedule of the tour and give him time to rest the voice.
This week, awful updates again (even with 15 new adds), frankly at this time it's impossible to know if the song will rise and be a hit or will flop. It needs a little more audience to have an impact on sales, and AC and Hot AC are not helping at all
|
|
david079
New Member
Joined: June 2013
Posts: 13
|
Post by david079 on Jul 23, 2015 9:46:15 GMT -5
r]This week, awful updates again (even with 15 new adds), frankly at this time it's impossible to know if the song will rise and be a hit or will flop. It needs a little more audience to have an impact on sales, and AC and Hot AC are not helping at all i don't think it even has a chance of being a hit if he doesn't lift a finger to promote it. He did a video for it but that was already 8 months ago.
|
|
crazyfun1
New Member
Joined: October 2003
Posts: 474
|
Post by crazyfun1 on Jul 23, 2015 10:58:01 GMT -5
In my opinion he needs to go to vocal training, he has a big voice, it seems he has control over it but if the technique is not the best he could damage his voice. He lost a lot of weight in too little time, and i know he likes the change, but lost of weight is way better if it's gradual. Anyway, he won't be the first artist that has to deal with a tour with vocal problems. His team needs to be careful with the schedule of the tour and give him time to rest the voice. This week, awful updates again (even with 15 new adds), frankly at this time it's impossible to know if the song will rise and be a hit or will flop. It needs a little more audience to have an impact on sales, and AC and Hot AC are not helping at all I'm not sure how much he practices using his vocals when he's not touring or in general. It seems like he's still very young and doesn't know exactly what's going on. About his weight loss...it took my friend over a year to lose 50 LBS...not months..that's pretty unhealthy and can do more harm than good. I'm not even if Sam team or label know WTF they're doing with him. Also seeing that he's trying to be healthy....both of his sisters smoke..even though they put on a healthy front..they're on Instagram with him....so if he's around or exposed to that it's horrible for his voice esp since he just had surgery
|
|
divasummer
9x Platinum Member
Joined: November 2011
Posts: 9,780
|
Post by divasummer on Jul 23, 2015 16:50:56 GMT -5
I know medicine and vocal surgery's have advanced alot but maybe his didn't work out as well as planned? I have no clue because I don't follow him much besides for his music. Or Maybe he needed more time to recover or like others have said work with a vocal coach more. (which I have no clue if he does or does not)
|
|
jjose712
4x Platinum Member
Joined: October 2012
Posts: 4,372
|
Post by jjose712 on Jul 24, 2015 9:20:27 GMT -5
r]This week, awful updates again (even with 15 new adds), frankly at this time it's impossible to know if the song will rise and be a hit or will flop. It needs a little more audience to have an impact on sales, and AC and Hot AC are not helping at all i don't think it even has a chance of being a hit if he doesn't lift a finger to promote it. He did a video for it but that was already 8 months ago. Yes, that's a thing his team need to improve for the next era. He is not a visual artist, but videos carry sales and streams anyway, and he needs to schedule the videos well to let them give the maximum effect. That never happened this era, in some cases because the song was released first in Uk, in other because he released the video way before the song being a single. And it would be a pity if they left the song flop (apart of thw akward chart peaks of his singles 2-5-8-99) sometimes artist just don't promote their last singles and generally it's better if you end the era with a high note. Of course there's a big chance of him releasing a collaboration (with Disclosure for sure) or even more before the release of the second album, so probably it won't matter that much for his career how like i can charts (but given the song it's his non ballad it would be better ir he does well, because the label could push too much ballads and he could became an AC singer). The album continues selling, so probably it will be very good buzz for his next era anyway
|
|
Glove Slap
Administrator
Sweetheart
Downloading ༺༒༻ Possibilities
Joined: January 2007
Posts: 29,480
Staff
|
Post by Glove Slap on Jul 24, 2015 10:05:00 GMT -5
The struggle is so real for this right now.
|
|
crazyfun1
New Member
Joined: October 2003
Posts: 474
|
Post by crazyfun1 on Jul 25, 2015 12:04:17 GMT -5
i don't think it even has a chance of being a hit if he doesn't lift a finger to promote it. He did a video for it but that was already 8 months ago. Yes, that's a thing his team need to improve for the next era. He is not a visual artist, but videos carry sales and streams anyway, and he needs to schedule the videos well to let them give the maximum effect. That never happened this era, in some cases because the song was released first in Uk, in other because he released the video way before the song being a single. And it would be a pity if they left the song flop (apart of thw akward chart peaks of his singles 2-5-8-99) sometimes artist just don't promote their last singles and generally it's better if you end the era with a high note. Of course there's a big chance of him releasing a collaboration (with Disclosure for sure) or even more before the release of the second album, so probably it won't matter that much for his career how like i can charts (but given the song it's his non ballad it would be better ir he does well, because the label could push too much ballads and he could became an AC singer). The album continues selling, so probably it will be very good buzz for his next era anyway Maybe Sam needs Ed Sheerens team :O
|
|
jjose712
4x Platinum Member
Joined: October 2012
Posts: 4,372
|
Post by jjose712 on Jul 25, 2015 13:12:42 GMT -5
Yes, that's a thing his team need to improve for the next era. He is not a visual artist, but videos carry sales and streams anyway, and he needs to schedule the videos well to let them give the maximum effect. That never happened this era, in some cases because the song was released first in Uk, in other because he released the video way before the song being a single. And it would be a pity if they left the song flop (apart of thw akward chart peaks of his singles 2-5-8-99) sometimes artist just don't promote their last singles and generally it's better if you end the era with a high note. Of course there's a big chance of him releasing a collaboration (with Disclosure for sure) or even more before the release of the second album, so probably it won't matter that much for his career how like i can charts (but given the song it's his non ballad it would be better ir he does well, because the label could push too much ballads and he could became an AC singer). The album continues selling, so probably it will be very good buzz for his next era anyway Maybe Sam needs Ed Sheerens team :O The truth is Ed had a way tougher path till he became a top singer in the USA. + was really big in UK, he had several top 10 hits there, but he had to do a lot of promo in small places and colleges to break into the market. The A team was a sizable hit (it took months to go there), Lego house did decent on pop but barely top 50 on the hot 100, and you need me, i don't need you flopped hard. Even his duet with Taylor Swift was a medium hit (i think if that song was released today would be an smash). But he built a fanbase and the reception of his second album was really great. Sam had a way easier route to stardom in the USA, he barely needed a tv performance. And with less singles he had more top 10 hits than Ed. I don't think Sam's team is not promoting him the right way, he had good promotion for all his previous singles. His illness afected the promo of Lay me down, and he couldn't do promo for LIC (at least till now). Anyway, LIC could be one of those cases that everybody think the song will be an smash when they listen it, but when it's released it won't do remotely as well as everybody expected. Fortunately for him his previous singles were successful enough to radio given this a try (and erratic try, but a try anyway), i think if the song start to climb reacting to the gains in audience it could end being a sizable hit, unfortunately the erratic chart run it's not something exclusive of pop, and the song lost its bullet on Hot Ac and AC (well on AC it regained the bullet), and it's less appropiate for the Urban AC market where the other singles did really well
|
|
david079
New Member
Joined: June 2013
Posts: 13
|
Post by david079 on Jul 29, 2015 11:05:08 GMT -5
#92 on itunes. This deserves to be such a smash. If only he would promote it a little bit...
|
|
jjose712
4x Platinum Member
Joined: October 2012
Posts: 4,372
|
Post by jjose712 on Aug 12, 2015 9:23:08 GMT -5
And just when the song dies on airplay starts to climb on itunes, awful timing for sure
|
|