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Post by mellongraig on Mar 19, 2018 9:01:13 GMT -5
Once again, Cumulus decides not to have Bob's outro for the 3rd hour of the rewind show this week. They should be like Premiere and have all the cues (top of hour/end of hour/closing) intact. If they want to keep the voiceover, fine, but it should be done after Bob's outro (except for sponsors/Billboard copyright) and the closing theme music from the time intact. This week's show, they are rewinding to March 15, 1997, which is much closer air date wise than previous weeks. Maybe they will be back in sync from now on, although I still would like to see them rerun 2002-2005 shows again. Here is the chart for the week and to hear songs that have not been heard in a long while: www.billboard.com/charts/country-airplay/1997-03-15
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Post by mellongraig on Mar 19, 2018 9:08:42 GMT -5
Aw man that stinks. I don't get it. I figured the whole "If it's not broke than don't fix it" mentality is a good one CT40 would follow. Instead they fix it amd most people end up pissed off, myself included. Yeah they really fixed it the wrong way there, but they probably did it for financial reasons. Maybe if they improve financially, they may make it available globally like some radio stations do stream wise.
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Post by mellongraig on Mar 26, 2018 15:09:39 GMT -5
New show should be up now on the CT40 site, and is from March 23, 1991. This date is now pretty much in sync when it aired to the affiliates on the weekend. I just wish they would announce exactly what the chart date is from rather than this week in '91...
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Post by mellongraig on Apr 2, 2018 12:03:02 GMT -5
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Post by mellongraig on Apr 9, 2018 11:16:09 GMT -5
The site and the female voiceover still say this week in '94, yet the show heard this week was from April 6, 1996. By this time, the ACC Calendar feature, that was normally anywhere in the show on a semi-regular basis, has been moved to the end of the third hour a few months after the archives ended. In rare cases when there was no calendar salute, another listener request was heard. Here is most of the songs including the songs from #31-40 that missed the rewind feature: www.billboard.com/charts/country-airplay/1996-04-06
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Post by dajross6 on Apr 9, 2018 21:19:08 GMT -5
This particular chart has a few of my all-time favorite songs, probably thanks to being at a time when I really got into country music. Hypnotize the Moon, No News, What Do I Know, If You Loved Me, Blue Clear Sky, Beaches of Cheyenne, I'll Try, My Maria...just a solid chart.
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Post by mellongraig on Apr 16, 2018 8:00:17 GMT -5
Wait, 1996 again this week on the rewind show? Either the show they had planned couldn't remaster in time, or maybe a guest host was offerred which they avoid. At least it is a new show from April 13, 1996 and has most of the songs we heard last week. www.billboard.com/charts/country-airplay/1996-04-13The CT40 site also has been fixed to include the right year rather than this week in '94.
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Post by mellongraig on Apr 23, 2018 11:28:45 GMT -5
They probably should have last week went with 1992 instead of 1996, but better late than never to go with April 18, 1992 as this week's show. Unfortunately Billboard is right now displaying the current chart regardless of what week you go to. Hopefully that will be fixed soon. In the meantime, this will have to do for now (around pages 26-28 the full chart should be there): www.americanradiohistory.com/Archive-Billboard/90s/1992/Billboard-1992-04-18.pdf
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Post by mellongraig on Apr 30, 2018 10:40:11 GMT -5
As the rewind show closes in on its third year, this week's show is from April 24, 1999. What I am seeing pattern wise is that they are ignoring most of the first half of 1990, and all of 2002-2005, which the latter part hasn't been aired since the weekend of 7/2/2016. Here's the chart for that week: www.billboard.com/charts/country-airplay/1999-04-24
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Post by dajross6 on May 6, 2018 21:15:11 GMT -5
I'm guessing ACC Rewind has stats on the years that people listen to, and they will continue to hammer those years to get more clicks for advertisers. Personally I only listen to the shows 1995 and on. And when I do, it's usually 10+ times a week.
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Post by mellongraig on May 7, 2018 12:41:11 GMT -5
I'm guessing ACC Rewind has stats on the years that people listen to, and they will continue to hammer those years to get more clicks for advertisers. Personally I only listen to the shows 1995 and on. And when I do, it's usually 10+ times a week. How about this week from 2001 - May 5, 2001 to be exact. This was a few months after the change from 75 to 60 songs overall. I still would like to see the ones from 2002-2005 reinstated that have yet to be aired since 2016. At least there are Youtube airchecks from those years which does include the first hour, but I don't think ACC Rewind has stats on those (correct me if I am wrong though).
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Post by mellongraig on May 14, 2018 10:44:11 GMT -5
A rare instance where the 2000s years are back to back for the past week and this week, which happens to be from May 13, 2000 in this case. They let the closing theme run pretty much throughout on this week's show (which was changed by 4/22/00 and maybe earlier), in many cases after Bob gives the chart week, it usually cuts off and goes to the female voiceover. Now if they could just do that from now on that would be nice... Here is what the chart looked like for that week: www.billboard.com/charts/country-airplay/2000-05-13
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Post by mellongraig on May 21, 2018 17:44:27 GMT -5
The site now says this week in 1995 and they are going back to May 20, 1995, around the time when the production company changed hands from ABC Watermark to KCCS.
Most of the full chart list this week can be found on this link below:
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Post by mellongraig on May 28, 2018 12:24:39 GMT -5
I noticed that on KBZU's schedule, it airs the rewind show twice, one of the rare stations to do it.
Anyway, this week's rewind show for Memorial Day weekend is a regular show from May 23, 1998. I wonder if there will be more stations to pick up the rewind show, just like around this time when AT40 usually airs a bonus show to get new stations subscribing, and airing the show. That, and here is the chart for that week included:
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Post by mellongraig on Jun 4, 2018 10:26:16 GMT -5
They changed the streaming player on the website again (and all Cumulus owned stations), but it still doesn't work outside the US as usual. Maybe they should have a TuneGenie site for each so we could actually listen in again...
Anyway, May 29, 1993 is the show for this week despite entering June, although earlier in the year they were about a week to a week and a half out of sync. Now they are back to about where they were before pre-2018 wise.
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Post by mellongraig on Jun 11, 2018 10:59:23 GMT -5
This week, June 7, 1997 is featured where the top song of the week ended up being the #1 song of the year. Maybe they will run that on the year-end special coming up, but here is the chart list for this week:
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Post by classiccountryfan on Jun 11, 2018 15:04:22 GMT -5
There were two versions of the same song on the June 7 chart. The Raybon Brothers’ version of Butterfly Kisses eventually reached the Top 40 on the country chart and the Top 25 of the Hot 100. The best known version of the song, by Bob Carlisle, fell short of the Country Top 40 and failed to make the Hot 100 due to chart rules at the time (it was an airplay smash but was never released commercially as a single, which was a requirement for the Hot 100 in those days). A third version, by Jeff Carson, also made the country chart below the Top 40. If I recall correctly all three versions were on the country chart simultaneously at one point (the chart had 75 positions at that time).
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Post by mellongraig on Jun 18, 2018 12:03:35 GMT -5
Wow, interesting to know that all three hit the chart simultaneously, just like the old days of Billboard. In the old days of the charts (at least the Hot 100 and prior), there would be multiple versions of the same songs recorded by different artists. To see that feat in the 90s is rare, and there were also instances in the latter half of the 90s where songs from an album that had huge commerical success would get unsolicited airplay.
Anyway, this week they are going back earlier in the 90s to June 15, 1991. It seems like 1990 has been skipped for most of the first half because apparently they didn't go to CD until sometime this month, which is why they need to convert the ones prior to June 1990 and remaster it. The earliest we have seen them air in the series is June 23, 1990.
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Post by dajross6 on Jun 18, 2018 14:26:53 GMT -5
Wow, interesting to know that all three hit the chart simultaneously, just like the old days of Billboard. In the old days of the charts (at least the Hot 100 and prior), there would be multiple versions of the same songs recorded by different artists. To see that feat in the 90s is rare, and there were also instances in the latter half of the 90s where songs from an album that had huge commerical success would get unsolicited airplay.
I suspect this was the reason they truncated the chart from 75 to 60. There were songs spending nearly enough time to go recurrent in the lower reaches of the chart before being chosen as a radio single. In the 90s it was very rare to have a song spend 30+ weeks on the chart, so when a brand new radio single already had 20+ weeks charted, it didn't make a lot of sense to the average listener. Plus, as mellongraig says, it isn't too interesting (nor accurate) to think that Tim McGraw had 10 of the top 75 songs in a given week. On album release week, many artists would have 5 or 6 songs chart based on radio stations simply spinning curious album tracks. It's better now.
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Post by classiccountryfan on Jun 18, 2018 19:36:18 GMT -5
I believe it was even more common earlier, but from listening to old episodes of American Top 40 on Sirius/XM I know of three times in the early 70s that multiple versions of the same song were in the Top 40 of the Hot 100 at the same time. I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing (In Perfect Harmony) was originally a popular Coca Cola commercial jingle, and when radio stations indicated an interest in the song both the British group The New Seekers and a studio group called the Hillside Singers (a reference to the commercial being filmed on a mountain) recorded a longer version of the song without mentioning Coca Cola. Both versions were in the Top 40 at the same time. The soundtrack version of I Don’t Know How to Love Him (from Jesus Christ Superstar), by Yvonne Elliman, and a version by Helen Reddy, were in the Top 40 simultaneously. And three versions of the Theme from Love Story (the instrumental from the soundtrack, another instrumental version by Henry Mancini, and a vocal version by Andy Willisma) were in the Top 40 at the same time. Years later, when it had become very rare, there were two versions of the same song BY THE SAME ARTIST in the Top 20 simultaneously. The 1960s classic Unchained Melody by the Righteous Brothers was included in the movie Ghost and found new popularity. However, licensing issues prevented it from being released as a cassette or CD single (only the original 45 RPM was available), so they recorded a new version on a different label. Based on chart rules of the time the two versions charted separately and both were in the Top 20 at the same time (the original version driven by airplay and the new version based on sales).
From what I recall reading at the time I believe reducing the number of songs charting based on unsolicited airplay was the main reason for cutting the chart from 75 to 60. Garth Brooks in particular frequently had multiple songs charting as album cuts during the peak of his popularity. His song The River, which eventually hit #1 as the fifth single from Roping the Wind, spent many weeks on the chart before becoming a single.
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Post by mellongraig on Jun 25, 2018 10:38:59 GMT -5
I think SoundScan was also part of the reason we started seeing changes to the charts as well given the fact the audience was much larger than anticipated.
Meanwhile, June 25, 1994 is this week's show, and sadly they cut off Bob's closing for the chart week. At least the aircheck remains intact that does include the first hour. Just wished they would make the first hour available, if at least optional to the affiliates...
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Post by classiccountryfan on Jun 25, 2018 19:25:21 GMT -5
I believe SoundScan was the main reason country albums suddenly started charting much higher on the Billboard 200 than previously. I also suspect it impacted country singles charting on the Hot 100. I don't think it would have had an impact on the country singles chart since that has been based exclusively on airplay at least since the change to the BDS airplay monitoring system. At that time songs became eligible to chart even if not available as retail singles (in fact, shortly after the change in methodology the title of the chart was changed from Hot Country Singles to Hot Country Singles & Tracks). I suspect that songs had been receiving unsolicited airplay prior to that time but just weren't eligible to chart under previous rules.
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Post by mellongraig on Jul 2, 2018 11:10:01 GMT -5
And then by the end of 1998, we saw a lot of country songs on the Hot 100 but most of them peak in the bottom half because of another methodology change. Still is today...
Meanwhile, a new show from June 29, 1996 is available now to listen to.
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Post by classiccountryfan on Jul 3, 2018 11:52:02 GMT -5
I remember two changes in chart methodology that affected country songs in the Hot 100, although I don't recall whether they were both implemented at the same time. One change I know took place in 1998. Up to that time songs had to have a retail single available to be eligible for the Hot 100. It was becoming much more common for record companies to promote songs to radio without a retail release due to concerns that availability of singles harmed album sales. As a result airplay became more of a factor and sales less of a factor, and it was possible for songs to place very high in the Hot 100 based on airplay alone with no sales whatsoever, if chart policy would allow that. Therefore the requirement of a retail single was eliminated. I remember the first chart under the new policy included a few airplay only hits in the Top 10, including Shania Twain's From This Moment On. The other change was that Billboard started including airplay on country stations toward the Hot 100. Previously country airplay did not count, so it was very difficult for country songs to place in the Hot 100 without crossover play on pop stations (such as Shania Twain, Faith Hill, and Tim McGraw for example). With the change songs with significant country airplay were frequently able to reach the lower portions of the Hot 100. It was still difficult to get very high without crossover airplay, but at least they were able to chart.
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Post by mellongraig on Jul 9, 2018 11:02:34 GMT -5
Today they now consist of sales (physical/digital), radio airplay, and streaming combined, and they release a new chart week on Tuesdays (just a few days prior to the chart week ending date now).
Meanwhile, new show is now available on the CT40 website, as July 7, 1990 is featured (just after they converted to CD).
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Post by mellongraig on Jul 16, 2018 10:30:08 GMT -5
July 18, 1992 is now up and this is the first time in a long while that they have gone ahead by more than a few days chart wise in sync. Unfortunately they also cut the closing credits again this week while last week, they kept a little in by announcing the chart date and then cut it off. I'd rather see them do it like Premiere does for the AT40 shows, but they don't have the remaster capability yet as all aired shows to date are CD quality.
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Post by classiccountryfan on Jul 16, 2018 17:53:35 GMT -5
I remember those days. There was a time where Take It Like a Man (Michelle Wright) and She Took It Like a Man (Confederate Railroad) were in the Top 40 at the same time. By the week featured here She Took It Like a Man was on the way down and had fallen out of the Top 40.
I noticed that the chart archives on the Billboard web site now show the entire chart, not just the Top 60. I think that change was just in the past day or so. Similarly, the Hot Country Songs archives now show the entire 100 positions for the period where the chart was 100 songs deep (prior to the monitored airplay era, when the chart was cut to 75 positions). Previously only the Top 50 was shown.
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Post by mellongraig on Jul 23, 2018 15:44:02 GMT -5
They've done that before briefly too before going back to 60, hopefully this time it will be a permanent change...
Meanwhile, the last full year to feature 75 positions was 2000, and that's what year they are rewinding to this week, July 22, 2000 to be exact. Very slow turnover on the songs by then...
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Post by mellongraig on Jul 30, 2018 11:19:37 GMT -5
While I am still waiting for them to air 2002-2005 shows again since July 2016, here is one from July 28, 2001 that they rewinded to this weekend. Here's what the full chart looked like (60 songs this time):
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Post by mellongraig on Aug 6, 2018 15:19:30 GMT -5
A new show from August 7, 1999 is now up on the website, however in the past few weeks including this week after the #1 song, they cut Bob's signoff and credits. Do they even have enough room to fit it in? They should probably cut or trim down some of the commercials a bit to fit the closing in.
Oh well, here is the chart for that week:
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