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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2015 21:35:29 GMT -5
Why does Luke have to respect the "legends?" I am sorry, but Merle was a cocaine addict who made amazing music. Why is he exempt from being criticized just because he made some great music? Why the uproar that Luke has to honor country music's past? I am not a fan of the comments, but I think I can understand where he is coming from. George Jones drove drunk, had high speed chases as well. Can we not talk about that? I felt like Luke's comments were honest. I am not a fan of everyone who speaks their mind, but I'd rather someone speak the truth then just say the status quo. Not sure how someone saying actual facts can offend people. Many of Luke's comments come off to me as very ignorant. For example, in 2013, when asked why he thought there weren't very many successful female artists on country radio, he said it's because women take so much longer to get all dolled up and ready to go visit radio stations when they go on their radio tours. SourceAt one point, the EW interviewer even said "But why wouldn’t they be able to do that? I’m not following." I don't think anyone is saying that artists like Merle Haggard and George Jones shouldn't be criticized. I'm not reading that in any of the comments here. What I took issue with is the fact that Luke implied that all "outlaw" country artists are like that, that they all do cocaine and are strung out on drugs and lying in gutters. And I'm sorry, but even if that's Luke's honest opinion, it comes across as very uneducated and/or ignorant. He came across as very entitled and condescending. "I’m not an outlaw country singer. I don’t do cocaine and run around. So I’m not going to sing outlaw country." He equates outlaw country singers with doing cocaine and running around. What about all the non-outlaw country artists who have done drugs or cheated before, or who have been caught drinking and driving? Why is this exclusive to an "outlaw" country artist? There's a reason Luke's apologizing. It was not a smart thing to say, and I'm sure he's gotten an earful from his manager/publicist. I just hope that Luke learns from this, and that he learns why what he said was wrong, and I hope he'll be able to change his views. I mean, if he honestly believes that that's what all people who sing "outlaw" country are like, then he's wrong. And if he honestly believes that no contemporary country/pop singer songwriters make poor life decisions (like doing drugs, cheating, etc), then he's wrong. I realize that some outlaw country artists portray a bit of a reckless image, but for Luke to equate poor behavior to outlaw country artists, as if no other types of artists behave poorly or make poor decisions...that's troubling to me.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2015 21:36:41 GMT -5
Who is criticizing his career as not being worth anything though? I mean if he reads Pulse, he might not exactly enjoy a lot of the comments made about his music on here, but in this same post you're pointing out that there's a lot of people out there who do like his music (and it's evidenced by his sales), so then who are all these people criticizing him as worthless? Also, being asked about why you make the kind of music you make seems like a pretty typical run-of-the-mill question to me for any artist, and it doesn't require him to answer by simultaneously tearing down others. He could've just said why he makes the music he does and not why he doesn't make the music he doesn't. Zac Brown and Gary Allan. I love all three artists, but they have made public comments about either Luke himself or general statements. Zac Brown criticized a SONG of Luke's, not his entire career, and even so, the comment was just Brown's displeasure of where the genre is headed. He merely used That's My Kinda Night as an example of the "bro-country" that was taking over the genre (and btw, this controversy was 2 years ago). He never said that Luke's career amounted to nothing, neither did Gary Allan and I don't see where you're getting that from. Gary has stated his displeasure with where the genre is headed to, but I don't remember him ever saying that it was Luke's fault.
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Post by matty005 on Jul 10, 2015 21:42:33 GMT -5
Zac Brown and Gary Allan. I love all three artists, but they have made public comments about either Luke himself or general statements. Zac Brown criticized a SONG of Luke's, not his entire career, and even so, the comment was just Brown's displeasure of where the genre is headed. He merely used That's My Kinda Night as an example of the "bro-country" that was taking over the genre (and btw, this controversy was 2 years ago). He never said that Luke's career amounted to nothing, neither did Gary Allan and I don't see where you're getting that from. Gary has stated his displeasure with where the genre is headed to, but I don't remember him ever saying that it was Luke's fault. You are right. Obviously no one has criticized his career as not being worth anything. But people (including his peers) have criticized either his songs or the style of music he sings. I feel like he is defending why he sings these songs and I get that part.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2015 21:49:03 GMT -5
Zac Brown criticized a SONG of Luke's, not his entire career, and even so, the comment was just Brown's displeasure of where the genre is headed. He merely used That's My Kinda Night as an example of the "bro-country" that was taking over the genre (and btw, this controversy was 2 years ago). He never said that Luke's career amounted to nothing, neither did Gary Allan and I don't see where you're getting that from. Gary has stated his displeasure with where the genre is headed to, but I don't remember him ever saying that it was Luke's fault. You are right. Obviously no one has criticized his career as not being worth anything. But people (including his peers) have criticized either his songs or the style of music he sings. I feel like he is defending why he sings these songs and I get that part. And that's perfectly fine, I just wish that Luke hadn't used the Outlaw comparison to prove his point, mostly just because it's an inaccurate portrayal of singers such as Willie, Waylon, and Merle. I know he didn't mean to, but he accidently bashed those guys and is catching fire for it now. It's not like Zac Brown didn't take some heat when he criticized Luke two years ago.
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Post by matty005 on Jul 10, 2015 22:02:04 GMT -5
You are right. Obviously no one has criticized his career as not being worth anything. But people (including his peers) have criticized either his songs or the style of music he sings. I feel like he is defending why he sings these songs and I get that part. And that's perfectly fine, I just wish that Luke hadn't used the Outlaw comparison to prove his point, mostly just because it's an inaccurate portrayal of singers such as Willie, Waylon, and Merle. I know he didn't mean to, but he accidently bashed those guys and is catching fire for it now. It's not like Zac Brown didn't take some heat when he criticized Luke two years ago. I get what you're saying, but weren't Merle and Waylon once addicted to coke?
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Jul 10, 2015 22:20:51 GMT -5
Why does Luke have to respect the "legends?" I am sorry, but Merle was a cocaine addict who made amazing music. Why is he exempt from being criticized just because he made some great music? Why the uproar that Luke has to honor country music's past? I am not a fan of the comments, but I think I can understand where he is coming from. George Jones drove drunk, had high speed chases as well. Can we not talk about that? I felt like Luke's comments were honest. I am not a fan of everyone who speaks their mind, but I'd rather someone speak the truth then just say the status quo. Not sure how someone saying actual facts can offend people. How about the actual fact that Luke lumped in Willie Nelson as a "gutter-laying" cocaine addict when there is no basis for thinking Nelson himself ever partook in that particular drug (pot is not cocaine) and when Willie is known to have instituted a road rule about firing anyone in his band who was caught with cocaine? In any event, I think it is callousness of a pretty high order for Luke to talk so casually about Merle and Waylon's cocaine addictions without acknowledging their decisions and efforts to get clean. I understand the argument against whitewashing our legends' personal histories. But if those failings was followed by something redemptive, or at least an effort to get there, it seems only fair to acknowledge that, too. Moreover, if Luke had discussed how Merle and Waylon's life experience translated into some self-critical music that acknowledged the adverse consequences of their actions, then we might be discussing his fair accounting of country music history rather than his seeming ignorance of it. As for why Luke should honor country's music past, well, musically, the three men he spoke about so flippantly helped build the genre with which Luke identifies himself and the market which is making Luke a heck of lot of money these days. So honoring that seems like the polite thing to do, at minimum. Country, much like rock & R&B and unlike pop, is actually built on a lyrical and sonic lineage that gives the music that extends that heritage added depth and meaning. I certainly don't think Luke intended to sound that judgmental. To me, his comments came off as thoughtless and not terribly bright (much like most of his music, as far as I am concerned). But as jhomes87 pointed out, this is not the first time for that. And I totally agree with jhomes87 that his sweeping association of poor life choices exclusively with outlaw country is both misinformed and highly problematic.
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Post by matty005 on Jul 10, 2015 22:26:46 GMT -5
Why does Luke have to respect the "legends?" I am sorry, but Merle was a cocaine addict who made amazing music. Why is he exempt from being criticized just because he made some great music? Why the uproar that Luke has to honor country music's past? I am not a fan of the comments, but I think I can understand where he is coming from. George Jones drove drunk, had high speed chases as well. Can we not talk about that? I felt like Luke's comments were honest. I am not a fan of everyone who speaks their mind, but I'd rather someone speak the truth then just say the status quo. Not sure how someone saying actual facts can offend people. How about the actual fact that Luke lumped in Willie Nelson as a "gutter-laying" cocaine addict when there is no basis for thinking Nelson himself ever partook in that particular drug (pot is not cocaine) and when Willie is known to have instituted a road rule about firing anyone in his band who was caught with cocaine? In any event, I think it is callousness of a pretty high order for Luke to talk so casually about Merle and Waylon's cocaine addictions without acknowledging their decisions and efforts to get clean. I understand the argument against whitewashing our legends' personal histories. But if those failings was followed by something redemptive, or at least an effort to get there, it seems only fair to acknowledge that, too. Moreover, if Luke had discussed how Merle and Waylon's life experience translated into some self-critical music that acknowledged the adverse consequences of their actions, then we might be discussing his fair accounting of country music history rather than his seeming ignorance of it. As for why Luke should honor country's music past, well, musically, the three men he spoke about so flippantly helped build the genre with which Luke identifies himself and the market which is making Luke a heck of lot of money these days. So honoring that seems like the polite thing to do, at minimum. Country, much like rock & R&B and unlike pop, is actually built on a lyrical and sonic lineage that gives the music that extends that lineage added depth and meaning. I certainly don't think Luke intended to sound that judgmental. To me, his comments came off as thoughtless and not terribly bright (much like most of his music, as far as I am concerned). But as jhomes87 pointed out, this is not the first time for that. And I totally agree with jhomes87 that his association of poor life choices exclusively with outlaw country is both misinformed and highly problematic. Please correct me if I am wrong, but weren't those two separate statements? One about if you like Waylon, Willie or Merle buy them. And then another about how he is not outlaw country. And even if he did lump it together, isn't that what was just defended a few posts up from mine? "Gary Allan was criticizing Luke, he was criticizing the type of music he sings."
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Jul 10, 2015 22:33:32 GMT -5
Please correct me if I am wrong, but weren't those two separate statements? One about if you like Waylon, Willie or Merle buy them. And then another about how he is not outlaw country. The two statements were delivered in answer to one question and based on the transitions (Willie/Waylon/Merle to "good old days" to outlaw country to cocaine) appear to have been connected in Luke's mind. And even if he did lump it together, isn't that what was just defended a few posts up from mine? "Gary Allan was criticizing Luke, he was criticizing the type of music he sings." No, it's not the same thing unless Gary Allan specifically singled out artists by name and then flippantly discussed their personal failings and/or illnesses.
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Post by matty005 on Jul 10, 2015 22:52:50 GMT -5
Please correct me if I am wrong, but weren't those two separate statements? One about if you like Waylon, Willie or Merle buy them. And then another about how he is not outlaw country. The two statements were delivered in answer to one question and based on the transitions (Willie/Waylon/Merle to "good old days" to outlaw country to cocaine) appear to have been connected in Luke's mind. And even if he did lump it together, isn't that what was just defended a few posts up from mine? "Gary Allan was criticizing Luke, he was criticizing the type of music he sings." [/quote ]No, it's not the same thing unless Gary Allan specifically singled out artists by name and then flippantly discussed their personal failings and/or illnesses. You make some good points (per usual) but I feel like the bolded, while not exactly the same, is pretty similar.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2015 1:03:38 GMT -5
You guys wonder why I don't give my opinions here and do mainly updates here in the Country forum? The above fight is EXACTLY why.
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Post by dm2081 on Jul 11, 2015 1:20:34 GMT -5
For the record, while I don't agree with Luke or believed he should have said what he did, I also find it funny that everyone just expects him to be okay with his music being simply labeled "party music" about trucks, beer, and women, but when he does the same thing by labeling certain artists to a few stereotypes (in this case the Outlaw country sub-genre), everyone gets bent out of shape about it. There seems to be a double standard that exists from so-called "music critics", and that's why we get quotes like this one from Luke or a few years back when Blake Shelton said "this ain't your grandpa's country" or however he put it.
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Post by sbp17 on Jul 11, 2015 1:50:13 GMT -5
You guys wonder why I don't give my opinions here and do mainly updates here in the Country forum? The above fight is EXACTLY why. You think this is a fight? There have been passionate opinions from both sides but no one has made it personal about fellow posters and the back and forth has been mostly civil. I actually think the discussion has been good and it has been interesting reading the different sides. It's an example of why I like the country forum so much.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2015 1:56:38 GMT -5
For the record, while I don't agree with Luke or believed he should have said what he did, I also find it funny that everyone just expects him to be okay with his music being simply labeled "party music" about trucks, beer, and women, but when he does the same thing by labeling certain artists to a few stereotypes (in this case the Outlaw country sub-genre), everyone gets bent out of shape about it. There seems to be a double standard that exists from so-called "music critics", and that's why we get quotes like this one from Luke or a few years back when Blake Shelton said "this ain't your grandpa's country" or however he put it. Personally, I don't have an issue with some people stereotyping genres or sub-genres of music. It's pretty natural to stereotype things. What I take issue with is how Luke implied that ALL "outlaw" country artists do cocaine, run around, and lie around in the gutter strung out on drugs. Go back and read his reply--there's no way around it. He equated being an "outlaw" country artist to doing cocaine/drugs, running around, etc. He was extremely careless with his choice of words and how he framed his reply, and it just furthers my belief that Luke has really bizarre and/or uneducated opinions on some things. You guys wonder why I don't give my opinions here and do mainly updates here in the Country forum? The above fight is EXACTLY why. I wouldn't say that this is a fight, lol. It's only natural for some disagreement to occur when there's debate/discussion, wouldn't you say? And really, as someone who's been on staff for quite some time, I have to say that I think the country forum is one of the most 'well-behaved' (for lack of a better phrase) parts of Pulse. Most people get along quite well, and things run pretty darn smoothly here. If others feel differently, here's the advice that I typically give: if you see something you think violates board rules, then report it, and staff will take a look at it. I come to Pulse to discuss songs and the charts, and I love doing that, but I think it's somewhat healthy for some more in-depth discussion from time to time, even if it gets somewhat heated. If it crosses the line, the staff will deal with it, but I don't see anything wrong with the recent discussion in this thread.
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Post by tim on Jul 11, 2015 10:23:51 GMT -5
^ jhomes87 sums up my sentiments regarding the discussion above. This is exactly the reason I enjoy this board so much...there has been plenty of good discussion going on in this thread since yesterday and I'm enjoying reading everyone's thoughts and opinions. It's a healthy discussion to have, whether you agree or disagree with Luke's comments.
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Post by 14887fan on Jul 11, 2015 10:43:16 GMT -5
Not sure how I feel about his comments, but I think he just made poor generalizations that are now biting him in the butt. Now more than ever, people in the spotlight have to be careful with their word choices. I don't think he meant to directly dis those that sing 'outlaw Country,' but that's definitely how it came off, and I don't find his apology to be all that sincere, especially since he opened it up on Twitter with "I gave a great interview I'm proud of" (or something to that extent -- I'm on mobile Safari and am too lazy to switch gears to find the exact quote). That's...not really setting the apology/clarification up for much sincerity if you're going to stick by every word. Context is everything. If he's actually throwing a dagger at those artists, then he deserves the uproar. If it was just a quote taken out of its intention, which is what I think happened, then that's forgivable -- to me, at least. He's just got to work on his communication skills. Even as an ACM host, he stumbles over lines and jokes all the time, and his delivery is lukewarm (don't go there with the puns) at best.
There've been much worse and more direct things said about artists/things by other artists in the past, both in and out of this genre. This'll blow over before Kill the Lights promo begins.
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Post by layne on Jul 11, 2015 11:36:47 GMT -5
His comments make me feel like he really isn't that comfortable in what he's recording. If you believe in your music/product there really is no need to defend it just let the songs speak for themselves with sales/success. He comes across as a guy that knows deep down that this song in particular is garbage and he feels the need to justify it by pointing out flaws of others. I used to be a fan of Luke until his last album but now I hope he sabotages his own career with crappy singles and dumb comments.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2015 13:54:00 GMT -5
His comments make me feel like he really isn't that comfortable in what he's recording. If you believe in your music/product there really is no need to defend it just let the songs speak for themselves with sales/success. He comes across as a guy that knows deep down that this song in particular is garbage and he feels the need to justify it by pointing out flaws of others. I used to be a fan of Luke until his last album but now I hope he sabotages his own career with crappy singles and dumb comments. This is interesting and mostly I would have disagreed, but go watch the Chase Rice video in the "Gonna Wanna Tonight" thread and that's basically what he was saying. Guess it could be true in this case too.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Jul 12, 2015 15:06:54 GMT -5
I don't think he thought his comments through and didn't think they would be offensive in anyway, but there in lies the problem for me. The term "Outlaw" is referring to how the artist took control of their career and did things differently from the way Music Row wanted them to do. It had nothing to do with the lyrical content of the songs* Luke doesn't know the history of the Outlaw Movement and shouldn't be using the term if he doesn't know it's meaning. Willie had no association with cocaine and Merle had less than half a year association with it and little of his music had to do with it. Honestly Johnny Cash would've probably been a better fit for his point.
Aside from using the wrong artists and not understanding what the term even means he doesn't realize we all have heard his album tracks that go outside of his definition of his music.
"I like to hunt, fish, ride around on my farm, build a big bonfire and drink some beers—and that’s what I sing about. It’s what I know."
If that's all he knows about then where did "Tackle Box", "Good Directions", "The Car In Front Of Me", "Do I", & "You Don't Know Jack" come from? He's shown he's more than capable of writing songs outside his self-defined limits. In the same interview he even says the first song he wrote was for church and yet religion doesn't make it into his topics he knows about. Neither does his children, wife or family which has had it's fair share of tragic incidences. If he wasn't so limited in his current output then him calling out the legends wouldn't have been as offensive to me, it would've just been ignorant.
*Well it did but more in an "I'm going to sing about what I want" kind of way not the specific content.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2015 17:20:03 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of Luke's comments, but I think a big part of the problem here is that Luke expressed himself in a way that caused him to probably become extremely frustrated, and therefore he put his foot in his mouth, when it really could have been avoided with a simple, and to the point response.
Artists have to be extremely careful in terms of everything they say and do, and it doesn't help when the media gets carried away with every little remark, anyway.
If he had just said "yeah, I'm my own artist, and I get tried of the comparisons," as opposed to TRYING to make his point and making disparaging generalizations in the process, this whole thing could have easily been avoided.
I'm not a HUGE fan of traditional Country, but I wholeheartedly think that Luke's comments were disrespectful, and he should respect the legends that paved the way for him.
Just because Luke Bryan and Merle Haggard don't make the same kind of Country doesn't mean that Luke should go around stereotyping him (or artists like him), as raging, homeless drug addicts.
It's funny how so many male artists have gotten frustrated over generalizations about bro Country, yet they can easily be caught doing the very same thing.
Frankly, Luke seems to have a narrow way of expressing his thoughts in most interviews; I'm not surprised that his comments would come off as stereotypical and limited in terns of prospective. Hell, he basically stereotyped HIMSELF as the type of artist who sings about beer, trucks, girls, etc. I would think that an artist who takes his career so seriously would be a bit more cognizant of how he comes off as an individual and artist.
Like it or not, the artists he dissed had a huge hand in Country music's history, and just because (some) of them got mixed up in things HE has never experienced does not make him any better than them in any capacity.
I think this whole thing just reinforces the point that there's way too much of a divide between legends and newcomers, and artists need to learn how to convey themselves better if they don't want to be caught in situations like this.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Jul 12, 2015 22:10:28 GMT -5
For the record, while I don't agree with Luke or believed he should have said what he did, I also find it funny that everyone just expects him to be okay with his music being simply labeled "party music" about trucks, beer, and women, but when he does the same thing by labeling certain artists to a few stereotypes (in this case the Outlaw country sub-genre), everyone gets bent out of shape about it. There seems to be a double standard that exists from so-called "music critics", and that's why we get quotes like this one from Luke or a few years back when Blake Shelton said "this ain't your grandpa's country" or however he put it. I disagree that there's a double standard at work here. There's a difference between labeling music based on lyrics, sound & production and labeling people based on presumed behavior. Luke's music has been subject to the former, but Luke is now being criticized in large part for doing the latter. He didn't just say that outlaw country music was about "laying in the gutter, strung up on drugs," he said that singing outlaw country meant "do[ing] cocaine" and that he "didn't want to do that." An ignorant statement for the reasons that Kanenrá:ke discussed above, but also a pretty judgmental one (if only because he didn't think it through to consider how that cast his supposed musical heroes). To put it another way, the functional equivalent of Luke's comment would have been if, instead of declaring "That's My Kind of Night" the worst song he had ever heard, Zac Brown had said, "I'm not a bro. I don't sit around ogling women half my age and acting like they have no worth beyond the skin they show, and I don't spend my life partying on tailgates pretending like there isn't a bigger world out there. I like to sing about family and honor the sacrifice of the military. That's what I know."
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2015 7:25:12 GMT -5
Rebounds to #34 on the Hot 100 this week as well as goes up to #8 on the Country Airplay chart.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Jul 16, 2015 12:41:19 GMT -5
Fun with mondegreens:
Knock knock knock goes the diesel / if you really wanna see the beautiful weasels
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Post by :) KUFan on Jul 16, 2015 23:05:46 GMT -5
You can now pre-order "Kill The Lights" on iTunes: itun.es/us/yv-S8In doing so, you'll receive "Strip it Down."
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Post by samsager3 on Jul 17, 2015 7:48:17 GMT -5
Strip it down feels like it could have fit right in on his last album without a problem. Seems as though this album will have a similar flow. I like the first two songs on it but I can't wait to hear the duet I wish that had been released instead. As far as song strip it down is good but doesn't feel like a Luke Bryan single unless he goes 7-8 songs deep again. It does have a slow romantic feel to it though so idk.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 8:16:34 GMT -5
Strip it down feels like it could have fit right in on his last album without a problem. Seems as though this album will have a similar flow. I like the first two songs on it but I can't wait to hear the duet I wish that had been released instead. As far as song strip it down is good but doesn't feel like a Luke Bryan single unless he goes 7-8 songs deep again. It does have a slow romantic feel to it though so idk. Agree. As far as "sounding more country than Crash My Party"...I don't buy it yet. Just because that song talks about boots and belt buckles don't mean squat. Go listen to his I'll Stay Me album. That's what I'm looking for. The raging fiddle and the stripped down vocals. The cynic in me is hoping that every song on the album after "Strip it Down" indeed does strip it down. Also, I don't want to hear any garbage about how Luke is going through "artist evolution" from albums like his I'll Stay Me. That's complete BS. Every artist who experiences "evolution" simply gets rid of their steel guitarist, their fiddle player, and makes their drummer play a pad. Want to hear a COUNTRY version of "Kick the Dust Up" from Luke? Go listen to "Over the River" from his first album. Same content. WAY better storytelling. WAY better instrumentals. WAY better production (or lack thereof). WAY better song.
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Post by samsager3 on Jul 17, 2015 10:06:11 GMT -5
Strip it down feels like it could have fit right in on his last album without a problem. Seems as though this album will have a similar flow. I like the first two songs on it but I can't wait to hear the duet I wish that had been released instead. As far as song strip it down is good but doesn't feel like a Luke Bryan single unless he goes 7-8 songs deep again. It does have a slow romantic feel to it though so idk. Agree. As far as "sounding more country than Crash My Party"...I don't buy it yet. Just because that song talks about boots and belt buckles don't mean squat. Go listen to his I'll Stay Me album. That's what I'm looking for. The raging fiddle and the stripped down vocals. The cynic in me is hoping that every song on the album after "Strip it Down" indeed does strip it down. Also, I don't want to hear any garbage about how Luke is going through "artist evolution" from albums like his I'll Stay Me. That's complete BS. Every artist who experiences "evolution" simply gets rid of their steel guitarist, their fiddle player, and makes their drummer play a pad. Want to hear a COUNTRY version of "Kick the Dust Up" from Luke? Go listen to "Over the River" from his first album. Same content. WAY better storytelling. WAY better instrumentals. WAY better production (or lack thereof). WAY better song. You were apparently replying to me but what you said didn't really make sense with my comments maybe it's just the way I took it. You said I said it was more country than his last album but what I actually said it would fit right in with his last album which I did like by the way. And I have listened to ill stay me I love that album but the sad truth is he's a megastar now and needs to play more of what radio wants to hear and a whole album like that form him at this point isn't going to happen.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 10:11:22 GMT -5
Agree. As far as "sounding more country than Crash My Party"...I don't buy it yet. Just because that song talks about boots and belt buckles don't mean squat. Go listen to his I'll Stay Me album. That's what I'm looking for. The raging fiddle and the stripped down vocals. The cynic in me is hoping that every song on the album after "Strip it Down" indeed does strip it down. Also, I don't want to hear any garbage about how Luke is going through "artist evolution" from albums like his I'll Stay Me. That's complete BS. Every artist who experiences "evolution" simply gets rid of their steel guitarist, their fiddle player, and makes their drummer play a pad. Want to hear a COUNTRY version of "Kick the Dust Up" from Luke? Go listen to "Over the River" from his first album. Same content. WAY better storytelling. WAY better instrumentals. WAY better production (or lack thereof). WAY better song. You were apparently replying to me but what you said didn't really make sense with my comments maybe it's just the way I took it. You said I said it was more country than his last album but what I actually said it would fit right in with his last album which I did like by the way. And I have listened to ill stay me I love that album but the sad truth is he's a megastar now and needs to play more of what radio wants to hear and a whole album like that form him at this point isn't going to happen. No if he's a mega-star he should use his star power to release quality true country songs. Not this bonehead garbage. I really am only looking forward to the I presume duet with Karen Fairchild. I feel like since Luke's the biggest name in country music he should make at least a little better material than what he's been dolling out at us lately.
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rsmatto
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Post by rsmatto on Jul 17, 2015 10:12:20 GMT -5
I've heard from friends at the label that the album is very much more like the first two albums from Luke's career, sonic wise.
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samsager3
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Post by samsager3 on Jul 17, 2015 10:15:10 GMT -5
You were apparently replying to me but what you said didn't really make sense with my comments maybe it's just the way I took it. You said I said it was more country than his last album but what I actually said it would fit right in with his last album which I did like by the way. And I have listened to ill stay me I love that album but the sad truth is he's a megastar now and needs to play more of what radio wants to hear and a whole album like that form him at this point isn't going to happen. No if he's a mega-star he should use his star power to release quality true country songs. Not this bonehead garbage. I really am only looking forward to the I presume duet with Karen Fairchild. I feel like since Luke's the biggest name in country music he should make at least a little better material than what he's been dolling out at us lately. What you consider garbage might be quality to some of us. But I'm not here to argue. What I'm saying is if he released I'll stay me now it would completely derail his megastar status it happens look what happened to brad paislely when he released wheelhouse and look what happened to lady antebellum when they tried to experiment it does not work. Once someone reaches his status they know what radio and fans expect and they aren't gonna risk their career to change that.
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Kat5Kind
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Post by Kat5Kind on Jul 17, 2015 10:23:34 GMT -5
Good Lord, y'all are cynical. If Luke says this album will be better, I'm gonna believe him until proven otherwise.
Also- KTDU sounds better in a live setting than it does on the radio.
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