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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 23:28:02 GMT -5
I'm one of the few here who really enjoys this one, but I'm not surprised that it's been quite polarizing.
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Post by :) KUFan on Aug 18, 2015 11:58:35 GMT -5
I'm one of the few here who really enjoys this one, but I'm not surprised that it's been quite polarizing. I actually enjoy this song for what it is...not a country sounding song but very catchy. The fact is...this song shouldn't be on country radio but that doesn't mean the song is catchy and has a good message. I feel the same way with "Crash and Burn." It's very catchy and I like the lyrics as well although I think a different artist should've been singing the song and the production is a little much.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Aug 19, 2015 1:43:31 GMT -5
Growing on me.
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Post by sabre14 on Aug 21, 2015 12:27:25 GMT -5
I wonder what plans RCA/Sony has for a release date on Jake's upcoming album? The reason I ask is because "Real Life" has stalled. Jake's gained just 13 total spins and 150k in audience so far this week, after barely keeping his bullet on MB this past week (just 188k in audience gained).
This song is just too grating on far too many listeners to be testing well, so I'm not surprised its had it's struggles in the teens (where polarizing songs go to die -- "1994", "Little Red Wagon").
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Post by carriekins on Aug 21, 2015 12:36:03 GMT -5
Apparently according to a video on his Facebook (that I have admittedly not watched), he mentioned re-recording a "more country" version of this. I don't know anything more about it, but a friend mentioned it yesterday and I thought it was interesting and possibly timely based on its current struggles at radio.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 12:42:30 GMT -5
Apparently according to a video on his Facebook (that I have admittedly not watched), he mentioned re-recording a "more country" version of this. I don't know anything more about it, but a friend mentioned it yesterday and I thought it was interesting and possibly timely based on its current struggles at radio. It was his "response to people who claim it's not country" by singing live with a bunch of guys. Nothing sounded more or less country about it. I almost wonder, though, (not that I think they are re-recording the song) if he is going to take a look at the other songs for the album and re-tweak them after seeing the response to "Real Life" (much like I think Tim McGraw must have done after "Lookin' for That Girl"). That's the only explanation I could have for us not knowing anything about a release date. Up until a few weeks ago, this was looking poised to continue its march up the charts.
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Post by sabre14 on Aug 21, 2015 12:49:09 GMT -5
he mentioned re-recording a "more country" version of this. They would need to overhaul the production, instrumentation and vocal arrangement. In other words, completely change the song to something entirely different.
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Post by matty005 on Aug 21, 2015 13:17:20 GMT -5
Apparently according to a video on his Facebook (that I have admittedly not watched), he mentioned re-recording a "more country" version of this. I don't know anything more about it, but a friend mentioned it yesterday and I thought it was interesting and possibly timely based on its current struggles at radio. It was his "response to people who claim it's not country" by singing live with a bunch of guys. Nothing sounded more or less country about it. I almost wonder, though, (not that I think they are re-recording the song) if he is going to take a look at the other songs for the album and re-tweak them after seeing the response to "Real Life" ( much like I think Tim McGraw must have done after "Lookin' for That Girl"). That's the only explanation I could have for us not knowing anything about a release date. Up until a few weeks ago, this was looking poised to continue its march up the charts. I don't think Tim did that all. I just think the lead single was a dud. I don't recall any delays with his album which would for sure happen if he had to tweak things up.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 14:03:32 GMT -5
It was his "response to people who claim it's not country" by singing live with a bunch of guys. Nothing sounded more or less country about it. I almost wonder, though, (not that I think they are re-recording the song) if he is going to take a look at the other songs for the album and re-tweak them after seeing the response to "Real Life" ( much like I think Tim McGraw must have done after "Lookin' for That Girl"). That's the only explanation I could have for us not knowing anything about a release date. Up until a few weeks ago, this was looking poised to continue its march up the charts. I don't think Tim did that all. I just think the lead single was a dud. I don't recall any delays with his album which would for sure happen if he had to tweak things up. I agree but it probably wouldn't take long to tweak production and switch out some cuts. Maybe. I just think it was odd that A) they pulled "Lookin' for That Girl" in the middle of its chart run and B) no songs on the album sounded ANYTHING like that one. Almost as if they pretend it never happened.
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Post by dm2081 on Aug 21, 2015 14:50:33 GMT -5
Apparently according to a video on his Facebook (that I have admittedly not watched), he mentioned re-recording a "more country" version of this. I don't know anything more about it, but a friend mentioned it yesterday and I thought it was interesting and possibly timely based on its current struggles at radio. I went and watched this video after you mentioned it here, and you can hear a REALLY country version of "Real Life" in the background, but I couldn't make out too much. There was heavy use of the harmonica on it and it sounded like a totally different song. I'm not sure if it's something country radio would play though to be honest, but I need to hear much better audio before making any judgments.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 15:19:20 GMT -5
^^my bad, I completely watched the wrong video or the wrong part of the video.
They WERE mixing a country version. And it sounded way better. I'd bet they release it on the album as an extra track (or to radio stations who don't want to play the current version).
Why bother working on that unless you are going to release it or you are re-thinking the "sound" of the new album? Either way, I hope to hear the full version.
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Post by sabre14 on Aug 27, 2015 12:03:07 GMT -5
If this song can't rally soon, RCA will need to release another single to get Jake's album out since we do not have a release date yet. "Real Life" lost 17 spins and 70k in audience today and has gained just 60 spins and 800k in total audience the past three weeks on MB. 12 of the top 20 spin leaders for this song have decreased its spins the past 7 days and if a song is testing very poorly that would make sense since stations usually don't like converting songs to heavier rotation if they're getting enough negative feedback.
This song was only released less than 12 weeks ago, so other than the sales, the youth of this song is an ally but I still doubt this gets any higher than the top 15.
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Post by kml567 on Aug 29, 2015 8:09:54 GMT -5
I wonder what plans RCA/Sony has for a release date on Jake's upcoming album? When can we expect to hear your new album in its entirety? "I pretty much finished my record already. So, I'd assume that it'd be out around the first of the new year. That's all I can say for the moment." - Jake Owen from today.com Q&A Looks like January 2016 to avoid the stiff competition during the holiday season.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 8:19:22 GMT -5
This one was moving pretty quickly up the charts until it stalled in the teens, so something seems a bit fishy. Normally if it were moving up that quickly they would make a projection when the song would get near the top and pick a release date (especially if the album is already finished).
My guess is that they got enough negative feedback to worry about the song's chances (and they were correct).
The real question is--what do they do now? "Real Life" isn't getting any higher...in fact, it seems to drop a spot every week. If they trash it now, they can get a new single out but they would legitimately have to do it now if they wanted it to get up by the beginning of the year. They're in a tough spot, which they should have expected by taking an artist with an existing fanbase and making his music sound like a Sublime rap remake with an overproduced steel guitar.
I actually like the song enough for what it is. If they are legitimately working on a country version, I say all bets are off at this point. Take that country version, ship it out to whoever wants to play that "radio edit" and count the spins for both and see how high you can get the song before the first of the year.
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Post by sabre14 on Aug 29, 2015 10:19:48 GMT -5
I wonder what plans RCA/Sony has for a release date on Jake's upcoming album? When can we expect to hear your new album in its entirety? "I pretty much finished my record already. So, I'd assume that it'd be out around the first of the new year. That's all I can say for the moment." - Jake Owen from today.com Q&A Looks like January 2016 to avoid the stiff competition during the holiday season. Looks to me like they know "Real Life" isn't getting much higher and plan to have another single out in time to hopefully reach the top 10 by the time the album drops.
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Post by H. on Aug 29, 2015 10:28:27 GMT -5
Didn't this happen with "Days Of Gold"?
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Post by sabre14 on Aug 29, 2015 11:10:21 GMT -5
Didn't this happen with "Days Of Gold"? "Days Of Gold" did miss the top 10 but it got the album out. "Real Life" won't get this album out.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 15:01:22 GMT -5
Didn't this happen with "Days Of Gold"? "Days Of Gold" did miss the top 10 but it got the album out. "Real Life" won't get this album out. It could. And by that I mean, "Real Life" has done about as well as "Days Of Gold" did, so I don't see why Sony hasn't lined up a release date. Well, actually, the reason why is because the leadership change, because I know Jake was almost done with the album already before Gary Overton had even left. The problem (for Jake) is that the new Sony executives aren't just going to continue down the path that Overton was on...they have different ideas (one example being the switch with Tyler Farr's single) and so it's only natural for priorities to shift a bit. They've probably heard all of Jake's music and are wondering why "Real Life" was selected as the single. My guess is that the idea for the potential remix (more country-sounding one) of "Real Life" came from Goodman/Robold/Hodges. The new Sony executives are working on a release schedule for ALL of the Sony artists, so it's going to take some time for them to get everybody slotted in (this goes for singles and albums). That's why we don't have a release date for Jake's album yet, and why it probably won't make it out until after the New Year. We don't have a release date for Chris Young's album either, although I'd bet that one gets out this fall.
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Post by sabre14 on Aug 31, 2015 15:53:28 GMT -5
I would bet on RCA getting another single from Jake out pretty soon as "Real Life" won't be doing anything more than what it has accomplished (it lost 250k in audience today). jhomes87 brought up the release date being after the new year, which I agree with. I could see a single shipping in September or October and the album being released in Q1. It's a shame for Jake's fans that they will have to wait a little longer for an album but this song's polarizing nature causing it to stall, plus the change in Sony leadership and having another agenda in mind is to blame.
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 13, 2015 13:42:35 GMT -5
Judging by this song's update today and the struggles this one has faced, I wouldn't be surprised if RCA/Sony officially pulls the plug on "Real Life" this week. Jake's album will be getting a Q1 of 2016 release, so perhaps the new brass at Sony Nashville have gotten a song selected as the next single to release by the fall in hopes for better fortune. I can assure you that his next single won't be nearly as polarizing, lol.
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Post by someguy on Sept 21, 2015 20:57:08 GMT -5
This manages to hang on to its bullet for another week, so it's safe for two more weeks on the chart at least. I agree that it's likely not going to go much further, though it has hung on for awhile at this point. Today's update wasn't very good. It has recovered from worse, but I'm thinking that the end is near.
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 21, 2015 21:11:49 GMT -5
This manages to hang on to its bullet for another week, so it's safe for two more weeks on the chart at least. I agree that it's likely not going to go much further, though it has hung on for awhile at this point. Today's update wasn't very good. It has recovered from worse, but I'm thinking that the end is near. I'm fully expecting RCA to cut the chord on this very soon, probably this week (if they haven't already). "Real Life" lost 40 spins and well over 300k in audience and even though they've managed some decent updates lately, the bulk of Jake's updates have been bad. There's no reason to keep this one going at this point since it isn't getting his album out and radio is just not keen on converting this anymore than they already have. I would't be surprised to see the bottom fall out in the coming days.
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Post by mdouty on Sept 22, 2015 15:38:23 GMT -5
It appears that they're still pushing this, even if it is the last push they make.
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 22, 2015 16:00:43 GMT -5
"^ Lol, I know that's a standard, every day ad but seriously, this song has been in the "Top 20" on MB since July 19th...it hasn't really done much of anything since. They're also using the term "growing" pretty loosely. "Real Life" has lost 20 total spins over the past six weeks and has only increased 1.3 million in audience over that time frame. Radio has seen the testing and they will not convert this song, no matter what RCA does. Its spent far too long in the 16-20 range (over two months). They really have to let this one go and live to fight another day, with a brand new, less polarizing song and God willing...one that bears some resemblance to country music.
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 24, 2015 9:16:55 GMT -5
"Real Life" is just about done. It lost 34 spins and over 300k in audience today and has lost over 100 spins and over 800k in audience this week.
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Post by dm2081 on Sept 26, 2015 8:52:33 GMT -5
Is it safe to say that Jake' next choice for single might be the most important one he's ever had to make? If he's ever going to be the A-list star that some think he can be (myself included), he's going to have to strike gold with his next single. Another single failing to reach the top 10 could really harpoon any momentum he has left. Radio seems like they're still eager to play his music, judging by how quickly "Real Life" rose up the charts, do I'm hoping that goodwill will still be there for his next single. He's going to need something that's safe but still sounds organic and refreshing at the same time, such as "Homegrown" or "I'm Comin' Over". Hopefully he can deliver because I'm more than ready for a new Jake Owen album.
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 26, 2015 12:31:59 GMT -5
Is it safe to say that Jake' next choice for single might be the most important one he's ever had to make? If he's ever going to be the A-list star that some think he can be (myself included), he's going to have to strike gold with his next single. Another single failing to reach the top 10 could really harpoon any momentum he has left. Radio seems like they're still eager to play his music, judging by how quickly "Real Life" rose up the charts, do I'm hoping that goodwill will still be there for his next single. He's going to need something that's safe but still sounds organic and refreshing at the same time, such as "Homegrown" or "I'm Comin' Over". Hopefully he can deliver because I'm more than ready for a new Jake Owen album. I agree that its important to release something safe but refreshing (Randy Goodman will make sure that the next single is the opposite of "Real Life") but to me the most important single release of Jake's career so far was "Barefoot Blue Jean Night". Without that song, who knows what happens to Jake's career with Sony. That song is definitely the song that did the most for him in terms of success. As long as the song is a radio-friendly track, I'm not too worried about how radio will react since I think he's a big enough, young enough artist with a strong enough label to withstand the polarizing nature and under performance of "Real Life." "Real Life" as I expected, had the plug pulled on it by RCA Nashville this week as its now lost 233 spins and over 1.7 million in audience this week. It did have a bullet on last week's chart, so this one won't go recurrent on MB until October 4th.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Sept 26, 2015 12:43:28 GMT -5
I still just think it's weird that Jake Owen was poised to become pretty big after striking gold with the Barefoot Blue Jean Night album and singles, and then... he threw away all that momentum with several questionable single releases. "What We Ain't Got" is the only great thing he's put out since that album of 4 #1's and it was not very radio friendly, though I think he could've made it a bigger hit than it was if he had retained his momentum. He just needs to get back to what made radio really like him and (for the most part) just stick with it.
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Post by ashton11 on Oct 6, 2015 12:15:37 GMT -5
www.courant.com/entertainment/music/hc-jake-owen-foxwoods-mashantucket-1008-20151005-story.htmlHere's a great interview recently from Jake. As someone mentioned on here already but he mentions the recent change in management and that he has went back to the studio to do more songs. New single in January(which I think is too long of a wait) and album drop early next year(March or April). So I think Jake has gotten the short end of the stick in this situation. A lot was resting on "Real Life"
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Post by md1340 on Oct 6, 2015 20:16:28 GMT -5
he mentioned re-recording a "more country" version of this. They would need to overhaul the production, instrumentation and vocal arrangement. In other words, completely change the song to something entirely different. And remove the implied "s" word from the first verse. There are more radio stations than you might think who passed on the song just for that reason. The version serviced to radio had the word edited out, but only partially, such that it left no doubt what was supposed to be there. It might as well have been left in altogether, because the "edit" did not do its job.
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