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Post by robenglund on Sept 17, 2015 22:55:58 GMT -5
This has a good chance of making the 40 spot on MB right? House Party will go recurrent, so that should help. I absolutely love this song and hope it does well.
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 17, 2015 23:14:27 GMT -5
This has a good chance of making the 40 spot on MB right? House Party will go recurrent, so that should help. I absolutely love this song and hope it does well. I say it has a reasonable chance. "House Party" is the only song going recurrent in the MB top 40 and yes, Billy's at #41...but Craig Campbell and The Cadillac Three are close behind and Brad is charging up in audience with "Country Nation."
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 20, 2015 11:40:23 GMT -5
It took 15 weeks since going for adds but "Drinkin' Town With A Football Problem" appears to have finally made the MB top 40 this week (at #40). It won't be official, until the recurrent(s) ("House Party") get removed later this afternoon.
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Post by robenglund on Sept 20, 2015 20:52:54 GMT -5
There it is! Officially got the 40 spot on MB :). Hopefully this starts taking off now. Also just heard this song on Sunday Night Football. That should certainly help with the promotion and getting this song out there.
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 20, 2015 21:00:16 GMT -5
Also just heard this song on Sunday Night Football. Haha, I heard it as well. It was only a few seconds but it was nice to hear it while watching the Seahawks and Packers. :)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2015 14:16:27 GMT -5
About time! I wondered why this hadn't had its big break. Now, I hope it doesn't peak at like 37 or so. I assume that the fact it is top 40 now, it can reach a bigger audience, right? So, there will be no excuse for this not going top 10 Am I too optimistic? After all, he has had some number ones before, and the song is so good, it all adds up, this has to reack the top, enough said!
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 25, 2015 14:32:47 GMT -5
About time! I wondered why this hadn't had its big break. Now, I hope it doesn't peak at like 37 or so. I assume that the fact it is top 40 now, it can reach a bigger audience, right? So, there will be no excuse for this not going top 10 Am I too optimistic? After all, he has had some number ones before, and the song is so good, it all adds up, this has to reack the top, enough said! Reaching the MB top 40 will assist Billy with countdown spins, which will start this weekend. However, this song still isn't guaranteed anything. "Drinkin' Town With A Football Problem" has broke even in spins and has lost 55k in total audience this week, so it hasn't taken off. Billy's song has only gained 100k in total MB audience over the past four week and just 400k over the past six weeks. I can see this going either way. It can gradually pick up the pace and reach the top 15 or top 20, or it could sputter out before the top 30.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2015 15:08:33 GMT -5
Ugh, that post just brought me down on my hopes lol So, a little off topic, when a song loses audience, does it mean it is lost cause certain stations stopped playing it? So, that audience cannot be regained? I was reading the Drake White thread for It Feels Good, and the song kept losing audience, yet managed to rise again a litte. I think I will never get the hang of how radio works.
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 25, 2015 15:18:46 GMT -5
Ugh, that post just brought me down on my hopes lol So, a little off topic, when a song loses audience, does it mean it is lost cause certain stations stopped playing it? So, that audience cannot be regained? I was reading the Drake White thread for It Feels Good, and the song kept losing audience, yet managed to rise again a litte. I think I will never get the hang of how radio works. Many songs lose audience in a one day update. The trick is to not have it be a regular occurrence. If a song loses 100k in a one day update, that just means it tallied up 100k less in total audience than it had the previous day. It doesn't mean stations stopped playing it -- perhaps a station did take it out of rotation, but that would depend on if the song is on fumes and the label has pulled promotion, in which case the spin totals on that station decrease. Some stations mean more in the way of audience totals than others. For example, KKBQ in Houston can account for over 1.0 million in audience for a song with 50 spins, whereas the same song with same amount of spins, only accounts for 100-200k in audience on a different, smaller market station. "It Feels Good" lost audience some days but it managed to climb to the 30's based off that being leveled off by its steady gains. You need a large number of days to determine how a song is ultimately performing, and this song unfortunately has had a large amount of days where it has lost a little bit of audience, or have minimal gains from the day before. That's why it could die before it can get going. Only time will tell. It still has a chance to become a moderate hit but the longer it waits, the odds go down.
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Post by Marv on Nov 7, 2015 8:24:07 GMT -5
Count me among those of us who are REALLY infuriated that this terrific tune isn-t moving up the charts, but as long as Luke, Jason, FGL and to a lesser extent Blake continue to receive excessive preferential treatment as it relates to priority airplay, then many other artists including B+ artists including Billy & Dierks will continue to face tough sledding in gaining any traction on the charts not to mention 30+ week long chart runs over and over again.
Granted Billy's label is used to this state of the format as is Craig Morgan's, but it still frustrates me like craxy that their tunes don't move quicker on the charts, and their respective promotion teams are undoubtedly extremely exasperated as well.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Nov 8, 2015 14:08:59 GMT -5
Mercury really feels like they've had a rough go with Billy. I mean, wasn't "We Are Tonight" his slowest climb to #1? And he's been around HOW long now?
Granted, they haven't really had a flagship artist for years. Every time they seem to get something going, it fizzles out. Mark Wills, Sugarland, Kacey Musgraves…
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 8, 2015 14:29:46 GMT -5
Mercury really feels like they've had a rough go with Billy. I mean, wasn't "We Are Tonight" his slowest climb to #1? And he's been around HOW long now? Granted, they haven't really had a flagship artist for years. Every time they seem to get something going, it fizzles out. Mark Wills, Sugarland, Kacey Musgraves… Mark Wills and Sugarland's time in radio's sunshine lasted much, much longer than Kacey's (one top 10 single), lol. Kacey has terrific sales and critical acclaim for someone who's virtually ignored by radio, too; so Mercury is probably not completely heartbroken by her lack of traction at mainstream radio. I don't think one ultra slow chart run that may result in a less than desirable peak means they've had a rough go with Billy. Yeah, his song's take forever and a day to climb the charts but I think they're doing as well as they can with him. "Drinkin' Town With A Football Problem" just missed the MB top 30 this week, as "Break On Me" leaped it this morning. Billy had a pretty solid week in gains though as he gained 800k in total audience on MB, which is really good for this one. "Drinkin' Town's" chart run has been the essence of slow, though. Football season is nearing the end, except for the NFL and I just can't see this one being able to hit the top 10 since it has burned up so many weeks in the 40's and 30's, with horrible sales. I mean, I guess it could happen but right now, that's still a pretty big if.
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Post by matty005 on Nov 8, 2015 14:39:45 GMT -5
Mercury really feels like they've had a rough go with Billy. I mean, wasn't "We Are Tonight" his slowest climb to #1? And he's been around HOW long now? Granted, they haven't really had a flagship artist for years. Every time they seem to get something going, it fizzles out. Mark Wills, Sugarland, Kacey Musgraves… Mark Wills and Sugarland's time in radio's sunshine lasted much, much longer than Kacey's (one top 10 single), lol. Kacey has terrific sales and critical acclaim for someone who's virtually ignored by radio, too; so Mercury is probably not completely heartbroken by her lack of traction at mainstream radio. I don't think one ultra slow chart run that may result in a less than desirable peak means they've had a rough go with Billy. Yeah, his song's take forever and a day to climb the charts but I think they're doing as well as they can with him. "Drinkin' Town With A Football Problem" just missed the MB top 30 this week, at "Break On Me" leaped it this morning. Billy had a pretty solid week in gains though as he gained 800k in total audience on MB, which is really good for this one. "Drinkin' Town's" chart run has been the essence of slow, though. Football season is nearing the end, except for the NFL and I just can't see this one being able to hit the top 10 since it has burned up so many weeks in the 40's and 30's, with horrible sales. I mean, I guess it could happen but right now, that's still a pretty big if. Good points since this song is really geared towards HS football, but college football still has another 2 months to go as well.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 8, 2015 14:45:20 GMT -5
Mark Wills and Sugarland's time in radio's sunshine lasted much, much longer than Kacey's (one top 10 single), lol. Kacey has terrific sales and critical acclaim for someone who's virtually ignored by radio, too; so Mercury is probably not completely heartbroken by her lack of traction at mainstream radio. I don't think one ultra slow chart run that may result in a less than desirable peak means they've had a rough go with Billy. Yeah, his song's take forever and a day to climb the charts but I think they're doing as well as they can with him. "Drinkin' Town With A Football Problem" just missed the MB top 30 this week, at "Break On Me" leaped it this morning. Billy had a pretty solid week in gains though as he gained 800k in total audience on MB, which is really good for this one. "Drinkin' Town's" chart run has been the essence of slow, though. Football season is nearing the end, except for the NFL and I just can't see this one being able to hit the top 10 since it has burned up so many weeks in the 40's and 30's, with horrible sales. I mean, I guess it could happen but right now, that's still a pretty big if. Good points since this song is really geared towards HS football, but college football still has another 2 months to go as well. Yeah, but one of those two months will be dedicated to Bowl season -- which I guess still counts, even though most of the games are money grabbing, meaningless games that happen in the middle of a weekday, with a name like Papa John's, Meineke Car Care, Go Daddy.com bowl. I'm a little bitter I guess, since it would have been picture perfect for this to be cracking the top 10 right now.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2015 11:20:54 GMT -5
I loved this song but it appears to be done. Such a shame, just didn't connect...much like "Blue Bandana".
Had a one-night stay in the MB top 30 but has an ugly bullet today. Similar omen as "Blue Bandana" last week.
I imagine they'll go with "It Don't Hurt Like it Used To" fairly quickly, as I believe Billy really likes that one (wrote it himself) and he probably wanted it released as the second single. Hoping they don't release that FGL nonsense "Summer Forever" but I wouldn't be completely surprised. Only thing is that Mercury has been leaning traditional lately.
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Post by dm2081 on Nov 16, 2015 12:17:12 GMT -5
I don't think they're done pushing this one yet, the update was terrible. For the record, I fully support "Nowhere Town" as the next single, I love that song.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 16, 2015 13:00:29 GMT -5
Billy's lost some spins the past two weeks but he's gained 1.2 million in total audience over that time frame. I agree that I don't see this one becoming a big hit but they haven't given up promotion just yet.
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 18, 2015 12:47:06 GMT -5
Well, today's update confirmed what I hoped wasn't the case: some stations seem to have pulled this from rotation yesterday as "Drinkin' Town" lost 55 spins and over 400k in audience today, which signals that this one is finished.
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Post by robenglund on Nov 18, 2015 13:39:37 GMT -5
NOOOOOOOO :'( . When I first heard this way back when I thought it had #1 written all over it.
Bring on "It Don't Hurt Like It Used To".
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Post by tim on Nov 18, 2015 13:57:35 GMT -5
I'm baffled and and stumped as to why this song didn't connect. I too thought this was a hit, but with this and "Blue Bandana" fizzling out I'm sure that leaves labels scratching their heads wondering exactly what country radio wants in today's market. It's all gotten to be quite fickle.
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Post by dm2081 on Nov 18, 2015 14:32:46 GMT -5
I think this song just didn't have a strong enough hook or catchy chorus. While I enjoy the song, I think the average listener might not have found this one to be particularly memorable. I never though it would peak this low though, pretty surprising to see from someone as established as Billy. Hopefully he can rebound with the 3rd single.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2015 14:54:35 GMT -5
Well, I mean it did sound like a country song out of the 2000's and we can't have that on today's airwaves because of evolution....and stuff
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Post by phil1996 on Nov 18, 2015 15:12:07 GMT -5
"It Don't Hurt Like It Used To" is right up radios alley. I will be very surprised if that wasn't a big hit.
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Post by Marv on Nov 18, 2015 17:30:49 GMT -5
It's pretty simple folks---the four most played artists of 2014 and 2015 at country radio (Luke, Jason, FGL and Blake) continue to hog the airplay charts regardless of the merit and quality of their songs, which leaves table scraps for everybody else as it relates to chart performance and spins, with Billy C's latest super-enjoyable tune being the latest 'victim'.
Granted, the number of 30+ week long chart runs has skyrocketed in recent years, but that's due more to a slew of overly cautious MDs and PDs who absolutely positively won't add a song to their playlists while simultaneously launching it with substantial out of the box airplay (30-35+ spins).
Obviously the fact that Love Like Crazy wound up #1 for the year at Billboard a few years ago thanks to spending 45+ weeks on the chart is certainly very fresh in the minds of all of us on this board as well as the Billboard chartaholics, and enduring only two bulletless weeks on the Mediabase chart during its extraordinary chart run.
However, once the second time that happened when the song lost its bullet and remained at #8 during its chart run essentially told his promo team that they're weren't going to get to #1 and that it would be best for everybody at his label to continue to promote the song and 'take what they could get' as it related to continuing to support it before pulling the plug when it reached #3 as they told Lon Helton in 2011 after LLC went recurrent.
Fast forward to 2015, and 'Drinking Class' took the same slowwwwwww and downright lazy route up the charts although it eventually rose to #1 as opposed to LLC, and would have wound up #1 for the year at Mediabase were it not for the 'Energizer Bunny' recurrent routine (going and going and going....) which 'Homegrown' pulled off this year while in the process coming within less than 300 spins of receiving 10,000+ spins per month as a recurrent for a staggering 8 straight months after peaking in March, and which FINALLY overtook 'Drinking Class' last month in spins for the year.
This is definitely one of my very favorite songs on the radio right now and has been for three solid months so I'm very disappointed that it didn't become a smash, and his CD is terrific, so I'm definitely looking forward to his next single.
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Post by dm2081 on Nov 18, 2015 18:08:38 GMT -5
It's pretty simple folks---the four most played artists of 2014 and 2015 at country radio (Luke, Jason, FGL and Blake) continue to hog the airplay charts regardless of the merit and quality of their songs, which leaves table scraps for everybody else as it relates to chart performance and spins, with Billy C's latest super-enjoyable tune being the latest 'victim'. Don't forget Carrie Underwood, who gets top 5 airplay no matter what she releases!!! She and the others need to quit hogging the damn charts!
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Post by bboat11 on Nov 18, 2015 18:30:39 GMT -5
It's pretty simple folks---the four most played artists of 2014 and 2015 at country radio (Luke, Jason, FGL and Blake) continue to hog the airplay charts regardless of the merit and quality of their songs, which leaves table scraps for everybody else as it relates to chart performance and spins, with Billy C's latest super-enjoyable tune being the latest 'victim'. Don't forget Carrie Underwood, who gets top 5 airplay no matter what she releases!!! She and the others need to quit hogging the damn charts! I always feel like the A-list males receive more airplay than Carrie does... But maybe that is because she has been pretty quiet the past couple years. Seriously though, there are WAY too many songs taking up chart space these days... I wonder what it will take to fix that problem. All the veteran acts are just about phased out except Tim, Kenny, and Brad... Edit: I suppose after them, Blake would just about be the next in line for "veteran" status!
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Post by Marv on Nov 21, 2015 0:37:14 GMT -5
Any idea when his next single will be released?
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Post by sabre14 on Nov 21, 2015 0:40:58 GMT -5
Any idea when his next single will be released? No word yet. When the second single has that much of a disappointing chart run, there's no guarantee that their will be a third single. I still say we will get one more single from Summer Forever though since it was just recently released and a January add date will be the most likely release date.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Nov 21, 2015 1:13:28 GMT -5
It's pretty simple folks---the four most played artists of 2014 and 2015 at country radio (Luke, Jason, FGL and Blake) continue to hog the airplay charts regardless of the merit and quality of their songs, which leaves table scraps for everybody else as it relates to chart performance and spins, with Billy C's latest super-enjoyable tune being the latest 'victim'. Don't forget Carrie Underwood, who gets top 5 airplay no matter what she releases!!! She and the others need to quit hogging the damn charts! Lol, you tried it.
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Post by Marv on Nov 27, 2015 6:29:27 GMT -5
Well when the annual Mediabase year-end chart wrapup covering all formats and typically running some 35-40 pages comes out on or around December 14th, Carrie will undoubtedly finish among the year's ten most played artists alongside the 'Big Four' previously mentioned alongside Keith, Tim, Kenny and two others.
Of course if merit REALLY mattered at country radio, those top 10 airplay rankings would radically different, and this wonderful tune would be heading for the penthouse as were previous slow-climbing smashes of his, since for me at least it's a much better tune than lots of the bro-country stuff of the past few years and screams originality thanks to the folks who penned it.
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