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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2015 0:59:45 GMT -5
Sort of off-topic for a minute, but I don't think this ever got posted in the "Raise 'Em Up" thread. Keith released a video 2 weeks ago for the Fuse track "Come Back To Me" -- obviously it's not a single, but he decided to do the video as a way to show his appreciation to the all the fans, especially those who attended his tour last year.
"Come Back To Me" was written by Brandy Clark, Shane McAnally, and Trevor Rosen. It makes sense that it wasn't a radio single (as it's not exactly 'radio-friendly', unfortunately), but I'm glad that he released a video for it, because it's probably my 2nd favorite track on Fuse, only behind "Somewhere In My Car".
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Post by justme60 on Jun 9, 2015 4:23:14 GMT -5
COME BACK TO ME is also a favorite of mine off of FUSE!
I'm really loving the John's song.....love the lyrics and Keith's voice sounds great as usual.
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Post by samsager3 on Jun 9, 2015 8:56:44 GMT -5
I'm a Keith urban fan and I loved his last album but I don't like this song at all. I don't find it very relatable since I didn't really grow up in the john cougar era and the production just seems odd to me
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Post by rbundy1987 on Jun 9, 2015 9:03:46 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2015 10:29:00 GMT -5
Keith definitely suffers from poor production as everything off his last record was far too heavy for me.
I don't think this one is too bad (actually perhaps better than some of the stuff off Fuse).
What I don't understand is--if these country artists love country music and know that they are catering to country fans who love country music: why is nobody using fiddles, steels, dobros, banjos, real drums anymore? Country is just as much about the music as it is about the lyrics.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Jun 9, 2015 10:37:55 GMT -5
I don't mind this one, but I find the production to be a bit bland and lacking punch here.
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Jun 9, 2015 11:28:53 GMT -5
Wow. I'm sure they will manage to muddy this up with a bunch of over the top noise & nonsense , but this has the potential to be the first urban song to fit my tastes in years.... And just as I suspected.They managed to turn this into just another pop country Keith Urban song. This production just destroyed what sounded like a pretty good song.
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Post by carriekins on Jun 9, 2015 11:44:03 GMT -5
What I don't understand is--if these country artists love country music and know that they are catering to country fans who love country music: why is nobody using fiddles, steels, dobros, banjos, real drums anymore?[/] Country is just as much about the music as it is about the lyrics.Totally off topic here but at his concert Friday, Dierks introduced his banjo/steel guitarist and said "yes folks, they do still exist in country music!" The crowd went nuts. He also has a fiddler. So. There's that. (And I 100% agree with you.)
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Post by justme60 on Jun 9, 2015 12:23:06 GMT -5
What I don't understand is--if these country artists love country music and know that they are catering to country fans who love country music: why is nobody using fiddles, steels, dobros, banjos, real drums anymore?[/] Country is just as much about the music as it is about the lyrics.Totally off topic here but at his concert Friday, Dierks introduced his banjo/steel guitarist and said "yes folks, they do still exist in country music!" The crowd went nuts. He also has a fiddler. So. There's that. (And I 100% agree with you.) Maybe that's why Dierks music struggles to reach younger country fans ( they seem to rule the airwaves now). Those instruments don't exist in pretty much all the country played on CR now or at least not on my country station. I'm just saying. His music is good but doesn't sell like it should or at least that's how it appears. Critical acclaim doesn't always sell like hot cakes. Personally, I love this new song of Keith's. Has great lyrics and I don't think it's over produced and it sure doesn't bother me that I don't hear a steel guitar or fiddle. Poor Keith, he pretty much can't do anything to please most of you. If all music sounded a like, the world would be a pretty dull place. JMO.
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Jun 9, 2015 12:47:36 GMT -5
Totally off topic here but at his concert Friday, Dierks introduced his banjo/steel guitarist and said "yes folks, they do still exist in country music!" The crowd went nuts. He also has a fiddler. So. There's that. (And I 100% agree with you.) Maybe that's why Dierks music struggles to reach younger country fans ( they seem to rule the airwaves now). Those instruments don't exist in pretty much all the country played on CR now or at least not on my country station. I'm just saying. His music is good but doesn't sell like it should or at least that's how it appears. Critical acclaim doesn't always sell like hot cakes. Personally, I love this new song of Keith's. Has great lyrics and I don't think it's over produced and it sure doesn't bother me that I don't hear a steel guitar or fiddle. Poor Keith, he pretty much can't do anything to please most of you. If all music sounded a like, the world would be a pretty dull place. JMO. Yes. Yes , because if all the music played on country radio sounded the same it would be a dull place... *blinks*
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Post by dm2081 on Jun 9, 2015 13:00:38 GMT -5
Totally off topic here but at his concert Friday, Dierks introduced his banjo/steel guitarist and said "yes folks, they do still exist in country music!" The crowd went nuts. He also has a fiddler. So. There's that. (And I 100% agree with you.) Maybe that's why Dierks music struggles to reach younger country fans ( they seem to rule the airwaves now). Those instruments don't exist in pretty much all the country played on CR now or at least not on my country station. I'm just saying. His music is good but doesn't sell like it should or at least that's how it appears. Critical acclaim doesn't always sell like hot cakes. Personally, I love this new song of Keith's. Has great lyrics and I don't think it's over produced and it sure doesn't bother me that I don't hear a steel guitar or fiddle. Poor Keith, he pretty much can't do anything to please most of you. If all music sounded a like, the world would be a pretty dull place. JMO. Except that "Drunk On A Place" was one of the biggest selling songs of last year, and "I Hold On" sold very well too. So yes these more country sounding songs can still sell.
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 9, 2015 13:06:53 GMT -5
Before I clicked play, I was hoping for almost anything but a funky, groovy, soulful style of production with this track...
I really enjoy the lyrics here but the studio version just doesn't really suit the lyrics, for me anyway. I wish Keith showcased his vocals and guitar playing more here but they went for groovy and laid back, which I don't mind in general, but I didn't desire to hear that from the live version I heard from CRS.
I'll give it time to grow on me though.
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Post by slowmo on Jun 9, 2015 13:21:50 GMT -5
I like this quite a bit although I could've done without the added crowd noise in the last 1:20 of the song.
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Post by Wave. on Jun 9, 2015 13:27:39 GMT -5
I came in to say this is a jam. The title alone gave me interest.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jun 9, 2015 15:45:16 GMT -5
Do you think that John Mellencamp ever dreamed that he would be the subject of a possible future #1 Country song? Ask Jack and Diane!
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Post by justme60 on Jun 9, 2015 19:00:34 GMT -5
Maybe that's why Dierks music struggles to reach younger country fans ( they seem to rule the airwaves now). Those instruments don't exist in pretty much all the country played on CR now or at least not on my country station. I'm just saying. His music is good but doesn't sell like it should or at least that's how it appears. Critical acclaim doesn't always sell like hot cakes. Personally, I love this new song of Keith's. Has great lyrics and I don't think it's over produced and it sure doesn't bother me that I don't hear a steel guitar or fiddle. Poor Keith, he pretty much can't do anything to please most of you. If all music sounded a like, the world would be a pretty dull place. JMO. Except that "Drunk On A Place" was one of the biggest selling songs of last year, and "I Hold On" sold very well too. So yes these more country sounding songs can still sell. Yeah, but what songs sold more than Dierks, and Keith for that matter too?? Bet you there are no steel guitars and fiddles in those songs.
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Post by justme60 on Jun 9, 2015 19:10:55 GMT -5
Maybe that's why Dierks music struggles to reach younger country fans ( they seem to rule the airwaves now). Those instruments don't exist in pretty much all the country played on CR now or at least not on my country station. I'm just saying. His music is good but doesn't sell like it should or at least that's how it appears. Critical acclaim doesn't always sell like hot cakes. Personally, I love this new song of Keith's. Has great lyrics and I don't think it's over produced and it sure doesn't bother me that I don't hear a steel guitar or fiddle. Poor Keith, he pretty much can't do anything to please most of you. If all music sounded a like, the world would be a pretty dull place. JMO. Yes. Yes , because if all the music played on country radio sounded the same it would be a dull place... *blinks* Mr. Lumpy, do you have eye problems or was it something I said??
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2015 19:45:28 GMT -5
Yes. Yes , because if all the music played on country radio sounded the same it would be a dull place... *blinks* Mr. Lumpy, do you have eye problems or was it something I said?? I'll answer..... You said that country radio shouldn't play the same type of music all the time, when in fact the biggest complaint of country fans for the past 3 years or so has been the rise of bro-country, known for its bland lyrics of partying and hooking up and generic rock/pop melodies. Now that that trend is dying, we are now seeing a new trend of "R&B Country", or "Metropolitan", where people are making total pop songs with maybe 5-10 percent of it being country. And just like with bro-country, Metropolitan is seeing it's many copycat artists trying to replicate the sound that's popular right now in order to remain relevant. What Lumpy is trying to say is that country radio is already a dull, actually scary place because more and more songs/artists artists are shifting towards this age of "the less country, the better".
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Post by rjz on Jun 9, 2015 19:51:44 GMT -5
I'm a huge Keith fan and was looking forward to this. I heard it once on the way to work and not too thrilled with the production. Hope it will grow on me, but it sounded too noisy and nondescript in melody.
I'm sure I'll buy his album though, I always do :)
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Post by dm2081 on Jun 9, 2015 19:58:53 GMT -5
Except that "Drunk On A Place" was one of the biggest selling songs of last year, and "I Hold On" sold very well too. So yes these more country sounding songs can still sell. Yeah, but what songs sold more than Dierks, and Keith for that matter too?? Bet you there are no steel guitars and fiddles in those songs. Well not many country songs sold better than "Drunk On A Plane" did. "Dirt" probably sold better and it featured a steel guitar pretty heavily. If you're referring to Pop songs, than yes they will always sell better than most Country singles. "Homegrown" is one of the biggest songs of the year (probably 3rd behind "Take Your Time" and "Girl Crush), and it features fiddle. Sure some songs that lean towards Pop might sell really well, but let's not act like a solid country sounding song can't sell well.
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Post by ethanhunt on Jun 9, 2015 21:25:32 GMT -5
Yeah, I'll just stick with the live version from CRS its MUCH BETTER than the studio version
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Post by liza on Jun 10, 2015 0:34:45 GMT -5
Wow. I'm sure they will manage to muddy this up with a bunch of over the top noise & nonsense , but this has the potential to be the first urban song to fit my tastes in years.... And just as I suspected.They managed to turn this into just another pop country Keith Urban song. This production just destroyed what sounded like a pretty good song. I'm curious to know what you think is country about this song?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2015 3:38:55 GMT -5
Country No.1 Kenny Chesney w/ Grace Potter Wild Child +74060 Keith Urban John Cougar, John Deere, John 3:16
7.406 million after 1 day at radio -- that would have put Keith at #31 on Monday's Billboard chart. But obviously he'll finish with more than 7.4 mil. I'm curious to see if this one can gain enough in the next 5 days to manage a top 25 debut, or perhaps even close to the top 20. It should definitely finish ahead of Cole Swindell, Reba, and Chase Rice, but Kip (#27, had 10.4 mil on Monday) and everyone ahead of him might be a bit tougher to catch.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2015 6:05:32 GMT -5
I can't wait to hear the remixed version of this with Josh Thompson. They can call it "We're About John Wayne, Johnny Cash, John Deere, John Cougar, John 3:16"!
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Jun 10, 2015 8:45:54 GMT -5
Yes. Yes , because if all the music played on country radio sounded the same it would be a dull place... *blinks* Mr. Lumpy, do you have eye problems or was it something I said?? If you can't see the irony in that statement, I don't really have anyway to convey it better. And just as I suspected.They managed to turn this into just another pop country Keith Urban song. This production just destroyed what sounded like a pretty good song. I'm curious to know what you think is country about this song? With the official release , hardly anything. But the live acoustic version at the top of page one almost sounds like a completely different song. All of the charm that version conveyed is all but crushed by the tempo & heavy handed production . Which is to be expected (by me anyways) as Ive found Urban almost unlistenable since "Love, Pain & the Whole Crazy Thing" due to his knack for over production.
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Post by bjer127 on Jun 10, 2015 8:50:31 GMT -5
Mr. Lumpy, do you have eye problems or was it something I said?? If you can't see the irony in that statement, I don't really have anyway to convey it better. I'm curious to know what you think is country about this song? With the official release , hardly anything. But the live acoustic version at the top of page one almost sounds like a completely different song. All of the charm that version conveyed is all but crushed by the tempo & heavy handed production . Which is to be expected (by be anyways) as Ive found Urban almost unlistenable since "Love, Pain & the Whole Crazy Thing" due to his knack for over production. I agree with all the sentiments here. From reading the lyrics a few weeks ago, I was for once kind of syked for a new Keith Urban song. I thought to myself "wow, whats happening to me". But nonetheless, the studio version just ruined it. I couldn't help but thinking of anyone else had recorded this, it probably could have been a great COUNTRY song. It's almost like he took a country song and made a pop cover of it, but there never was a country song! LOL. Dare I say maybe even Luke could have made this sound better I'm not saying the song is horrible, but the potential was there to be SO much better
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Post by justme60 on Jun 10, 2015 12:57:07 GMT -5
Mr. Lumpy, do you have eye problems or was it something I said?? I'll answer..... You said that country radio shouldn't play the same type of music all the time, when in fact the biggest complaint of country fans for the past 3 years or so has been the rise of bro-country, known for its bland lyrics of partying and hooking up and generic rock/pop melodies. Now that that trend is dying, we are now seeing a new trend of "R&B Country", or "Metropolitan", where people are making total pop songs with maybe 5-10 percent of it being country. And just like with bro-country, Metropolitan is seeing it's many copycat artists trying to replicate the sound that's popular right now in order to remain relevant. What Lumpy is trying to say is that country radio is already a dull, actually scary place because more and more songs/artists artists are shifting towards this age of "the less country, the better". Geez Zack....I said all that??? I must have been typing in my sleep. I just don't recall me saying or typing any of that. I don't know enough about music to suggest that. You guys took my statement and assumed something entirely different than what I meant. But hell, think what you want. Just don't like to hear my guy Keith put down because he doesn't use those country sounding instruments. Go put on a Dierks song and get to feeling better and get off my back. Everything in life is changing, so sometimes, like it or not, you may have to change with it!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2015 13:26:22 GMT -5
This is alright. I feel like it had the potential to be fantastic, but it missed the mark.
As for the "Country" argument, Keith has never exactly been a traditionalist, and I don't see anything wrong with that, as long as the music is up to par.
My issue with Keith the last few years boils down to the fact that, despite his talent, he has become comfortable with churning out the same songs that are virtually indistinguishable, honestly.
Granted, he's far from the only artist guilty of this, but he's one I find especially frustrating because unlike most of his male peers, he's capable of so much better.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2015 13:47:40 GMT -5
I'll answer..... You said that country radio shouldn't play the same type of music all the time, when in fact the biggest complaint of country fans for the past 3 years or so has been the rise of bro-country, known for its bland lyrics of partying and hooking up and generic rock/pop melodies. Now that that trend is dying, we are now seeing a new trend of "R&B Country", or "Metropolitan", where people are making total pop songs with maybe 5-10 percent of it being country. And just like with bro-country, Metropolitan is seeing it's many copycat artists trying to replicate the sound that's popular right now in order to remain relevant. What Lumpy is trying to say is that country radio is already a dull, actually scary place because more and more songs/artists artists are shifting towards this age of "the less country, the better". Geez Zack....I said all that??? I must have been typing in my sleep. I just don't recall me saying or typing any of that. I don't know enough about music to suggest that. You guys took my statement and assumed something entirely different than what I meant. But hell, think what you want. Just don't like to hear my guy Keith put down because he doesn't use those country sounding instruments. Go put on a Dierks song and get to feeling better and get off my back. Everything in life is changing, so sometimes, like it or not, you may have to change with it! No.....you said that "if all music sounded the same, the world would be a dull place". My post was basically explaining what Lumpy was trying to say with his post. If you actually read my post, you'd see that the thoughts are thoughts that Lumpy and I share, not you. With me so far? And hey this is a messaging board, people are free to express their opinions on music, good or bad. You may not agree with the opinions at hand, but that doesn't mean that people aren't allowed to explain why they like/dislike a song. As for the rest of your sarcastic, assanine reply, no one is attacking you, so I see no reason to "get off your back", I (and others) was simply responding to you. No one is specifically attacking Keith either, someone just made an observation as to how many songs on the radio today don't use the essential instruments that made country what it is today. Now I see no reason to further this conversation but if you wish, we may continue via PM. otherwise, let's quit derailing the thread.
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Post by kw9461 on Jun 10, 2015 21:13:28 GMT -5
Somewhere, I think a really good song exists, but man is that production dreadful. It's so out of touch with the song that Keith almost sounds off key. This had the potential to be this summer's American Kids, it's damn catchy, but like this I just don't see it. I haven't loved much of Keith's since Defying Gravity (loved Cop Car though), and now I fear he's been lost to the dark side. Keith needs to make a live or acoustic version available for sale, I might be interested in that.
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