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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2015 22:32:48 GMT -5
Coco, Coco, Psychotic Glory-Stealing Bitch has been revealed. Upon Popstop's death, her win condition has been fulfilled.Coco Wins.@spiritanimal What is this like Game # 3 or 4 I won. Two of which i didn't even bat a eyelash. Winning!
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Post by Green Baron on Jun 25, 2015 22:32:53 GMT -5
AZ GREEN ROOM LINK pretty please
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 25, 2015 22:33:22 GMT -5
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Post by surfy on Jun 25, 2015 22:33:22 GMT -5
I was really about to check into an asylum after that shit was pulled.
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Post by popstop on Jun 25, 2015 22:33:38 GMT -5
Well, yeah, it was kind of a no-win situation being converted to scum when Kunt had already been found out.
But seriously, I can't tell you how frustrating it was that not one of you bought the conversion thing when that's exactly how it happened. At least lych me for knowing too much about the twist.
Srsly, if Kunt hadn't abducted me before conversion, mafia probably would have won.
I was town up until N3. And I hope no one ever adds that twist to a mafia game again.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2015 22:33:39 GMT -5
Lame.
Anyway, ok I'm going to be honest but in the nicest possible way: Town played a fucking horrible game. I know y'all won, but that's more because of balance issues (for more information, read the Green Room). Baron, literally no at everything you said to Surf D6 because you and Libra were absolutely not confirmed to be town on revival. Revival roles DO NOT confirm the player's alignment after being revived; town only knows what they were when they died. Of all the players, for the fact that Surf wasn't even here for 50% of the game, he was still the town MVP hands down.
Scum MVP probably goes to Max (who did a phenomenal job with the crap role he got) and popstop, if only because this endgame was the most entertained I think I've ever been outside of a confirmed bastard game. As absolutely beyond frustrating this game was to play regardless of the scum role you got, it was hysterical to watch from the sidelines.
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Post by Mikey on Jun 25, 2015 22:34:18 GMT -5
Best ending ever
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Post by ry4n on Jun 25, 2015 22:34:42 GMT -5
also LIBRA AND GREEN BARON WERE NEVER CONFIRMED VANILLA
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2015 22:35:11 GMT -5
Coco, Coco, Psychotic Glory-Stealing Bitch has been revealed. Upon Popstop's death, her win condition has been fulfilled.Coco Wins.@spiritanimal (2) Only thing needed to be discussed in the green room is why i constantly win
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 25, 2015 22:35:15 GMT -5
Yeah I f**ked up the balance. This game didn't start bastard, and wasn't meant to be bastard, but that's how it ended up.
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Post by Green Baron on Jun 25, 2015 22:35:33 GMT -5
Baron, literally no at everything you said to Surf D6 because you and Libra were absolutely not confirmed to be town on revival. Revival roles DO NOT confirm the player's alignment after being revived; town only knows what they were when they died. Of all the players, for the fact that Surf wasn't even here for 50% of the game, he was still the town MVP hands down. I get that but I was picking on anyone who thought it because I myself knew it wasn't true lol. Probably wasn't the best way to go with it in retrospect
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Post by Green Baron on Jun 25, 2015 22:35:58 GMT -5
Az just green room us please
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Post by surfy on Jun 25, 2015 22:36:12 GMT -5
I think this is the first game that I've actually played a good game (for me personally) I can't speak for the rest of you townies...
Good job Drag for helping out while you could! You helped a lot!!! :)
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 25, 2015 22:37:38 GMT -5
Az just green room us please Links have been posted. It's called reading. You're welcome.
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Post by ry4n on Jun 25, 2015 22:37:39 GMT -5
Az just green room us please
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Post by Libra on Jun 25, 2015 22:40:15 GMT -5
Meanwhile, I'm now 2-0 in games I've played through to the end. In spite of end-of-game fuckery.
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Post by popstop on Jun 25, 2015 22:41:24 GMT -5
Also, LMAO that Kunt said he visited me on D4 and no one saw that as a red flag. And then no town person remembered it for D5 and D6
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2015 22:43:21 GMT -5
Baron, literally no at everything you said to Surf D6 because you and Libra were absolutely not confirmed to be town on revival. Revival roles DO NOT confirm the player's alignment after being revived; town only knows what they were when they died. Of all the players, for the fact that Surf wasn't even here for 50% of the game, he was still the town MVP hands down. I get that but I was picking on anyone who thought it because I myself knew it wasn't true lol. Probably wasn't the best way to go with it in retrospect I get that, but I wanted to punch you for calling his move stupid. It literally wasn't when you think about it. He tracked Libra and confirmed that, with a kill submitted, Libra is vanilla. That doesn't exactly clear you, but it makes you look much better in light of that. Surf also knew he was town, so that left popstop. It's just amazing to me that y'all managed to lynch him correctly but for the absolute worst possible reasons imaginable that actually contradicted your own theories but somehow worked out in your favor anyway. -- Also, I love how Libra was the one to point out that I basically told everyone I visited popstop D4 and then... never brought it up again. Granted, that looked bad b/c Az didn't tell Surf I visited popstop when he tracked me (still don't agree with that) but still, I f**ked up SO BAD and nobody even bothered to look into that further.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2015 22:43:34 GMT -5
Also, LMAO that Kunt said he visited me on D4 and no one saw that as a red flag. And then no town person remembered it for D5 and D6 SERIOUSLY. I wasn't lying though, I really did think Surf had said I visited you when he said he'd tracked me and mentioned it when he exposed me. I was really confused by the fact that he didn't mention me visiting you.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 25, 2015 22:43:47 GMT -5
Also, LMAO that Kunt said he visited me on D4 and no one saw that as a red flag. And then no town person remembered it for D5 and D6 It just feeds back into what Kunt was saying about Town being stupid. It was just dumb luck that their assumptions pointed them in the right direction. Also, #F**kBalance
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Post by Libra on Jun 25, 2015 22:49:52 GMT -5
Can we maybe all just agree that we all f**ked up this game? Town, Scum, even Az... well actually Cynthia was amazing with how she blended in. Her only downfall is that she didn't make it till the end.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 25, 2015 22:51:31 GMT -5
That was another thing that was my fault. I researched old games to find where roles were used for role PM's. The version of JOAT I used had Watch/Track/Stun/Kill but I should have given her a 1-S Bulletproof.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2015 22:52:55 GMT -5
Can we maybe all just agree that we all f**ked up this game? Town, Scum, even Az... well actually Cynthia was amazing. Her only downfall is that she didn't make it till the end. I'm the only scum that f**ked up though? popstop made a pretty solid play with what little he had to work with. It's amazing he even survived D5 at all. Max may have been suspicious for the entire game, but that was actually by design of our strategy and had you and Baron not been revived (which was total bulls**t) scum had a pretty good shot once popstop was converted. Hell, he was ready to off himself with fair reason to do so. My teammates were great this game lmao.
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Post by popstop on Jun 25, 2015 22:57:19 GMT -5
Thanks, Kunt. I tried. I thought I had some pretty solid arguments. It was kind of a thankless position to be in, but I did enjoy fucking with Surf. :)
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Post by Libra on Jun 25, 2015 23:00:23 GMT -5
@touch, had GB or myself changed upon coming back, we should have been told, yes? Only exception being if Az was being a Bastard Mod and withholding that from us.
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Post by Green Baron on Jun 25, 2015 23:00:24 GMT -5
What would Stun do for Cynthia tho
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Post by surfy on Jun 25, 2015 23:00:53 GMT -5
I don't think I fucked up... Except for not noticing Kunt's post about visiting Pop... I must've been busy/not paying attention, can someone quote that post for me?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2015 23:06:37 GMT -5
Having just read 32 pages of garbage (skipped over the first few pages as usual petty convos) I have to say AZ was a amazing moderator! He managed to put together a great game at somehow even tho you guys played horribly! he found a way to swing it out of the ballpark with the closing number. AZ for breakthrough!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2015 23:06:30 GMT -5
@touch, had GB or myself changed upon coming back, we should have been told, yes? Only exception being if Az was being a Bastard Mod and withholding that from us. Yes, but that's not my point. If you had changed alignments, why on earth would you tell town that? You'd just be lynched. Obviously, you'd still say that you came back as the same alignment to avoid suspicion. The point was that, logically, town should have questioned your alignment and Surf wasn't wrong for doing so. He didn't know what you two were brought back as regardless of whether or not the two of you did, because he doesn't have access to your Role PMs or the Infirmary. To cite a reference, the only other game we saw revivals was in josh's Election 2016 Mafia. Kurt and Cynthia were revived as "werewolves and mummies" as scum, but told everyone that they had been revived as vanilla. They also won.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jun 25, 2015 23:06:39 GMT -5
But seriously, I can't tell you how frustrating it was that not one of you bought the conversion thing when that's exactly how it happened. At least lych me for knowing too much about the twist. And I can't tell you how frustrated I was that everyone was sticking to the idea that just because Libra and Baron returned, doesn't mean they were automatically still town. It doesn't make sense to have one's alignment confirmed by a mod upon entry or re-entry into the game. If I were in it, regardless of whether I was town or scum, I would have argued that point right into the dead horse.
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