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Post by bksouthga on Sept 15, 2015 17:51:59 GMT -5
I'm not sure why people have chosen this song to draw their "line in the sand" when it comes to what radio stations could or should play. As I sit here listening to my terrestrial radio station, I'm thinking that probably the majority, not the minority, is non-traditional country, Or perhaps not country at all.so I think that to vilify this song in particular is a bit disingenuous. I will reserve my more scathing critiques for those less talented and creative then ZBB or Sam Hunt.
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Post by bboat11 on Sept 15, 2015 19:02:33 GMT -5
I'm not sure why people have chosen this song to draw their "line in the sand" when it comes to what radio stations could or should play. As I sit here listening to my terrestrial radio station, I'm thinking that probably the majority, not the minority, is non-traditional country, Or perhaps not country at all.so I think that to vilify this song in particular is a bit disingenuous. I will reserve my more scathing critiques for those less talented and creative then ZBB or Sam Hunt. I completely agree with you. This song is not really country, but to be honest, it quickly might be becoming my favorite song ZBB has ever released... I will never complain about hearing this on the radio, because the genre is going through an identity crisis anyway, and they are going to play non-country music anyway, so when they play really GOOD non-country music it is definitely the lesser of two evils! Alongside the other songs in the flurry of non-country singles to hit radio lately, such as "JohnJohnJohnJohnJohnJohnJohn", "Crash And Burn", "Real Life", etc., this song sounds to me like a real breath of fresh air.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 21:25:43 GMT -5
To the people who are complaining about posters complaining about this song....Pulse is NOT a fan board, and anyone is allowed to express their opinion. As for this song, I like its sound as a Pop song, but even as a song the lyrics are pretty dang lazy, especially from these guys. Overall I give it a C+, but as a country song I give it a D-
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Post by bksouthga on Sept 15, 2015 22:16:38 GMT -5
To the people who are complaining about posters complaining about this song....Pulse is NOT a fan board, and anyone is allowed to express their opinion. As for this song, I like its sound as a Pop song, but even as a song the lyrics are pretty dang lazy, especially from these guys. Overall I give it a C+, but as a country song I give it a D- If you think that I am posting as a mere "fan" you are sadly mistaken. As far as I understand Pulse is NEITHER a fan board NOR a hater board. I think I am entitled to express dissent with the level of vitriol that has been put on here towards this particular song. I hope that people find my posts and point of view enlightening and that it might even give them pause to reconsider their thoughts. I am willing to do that. It seems like it might be a bit skewed towards longtime members. One of my very first posts on this forum mentioned that I used to detest Kenny Chesney and his music. I was immediately questioned on that. Detest? Yes I did and I'm over it now. So I am merely pointing out that I don't understand why this song and not so many others that are so far from traditional country. If you have any thoughts that I should consider I would welcome that. If not, then maybe I don't understand the purpose of this forum.
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Post by bboat11 on Sept 15, 2015 22:55:38 GMT -5
To the people who are complaining about posters complaining about this song....Pulse is NOT a fan board, and anyone is allowed to express their opinion. As for this song, I like its sound as a Pop song, but even as a song the lyrics are pretty dang lazy, especially from these guys. Overall I give it a C+, but as a country song I give it a D- Nobody is inhibiting anybody else from having an opinion here. I am simply saying that to me this song sounds like a step up compared to other songs that have been criticized as not-country lately. That does not mean that I am trying to discredit anyone else's dislike for the song, and it does not seem to me that that was bksouthga's intention either... Neither of us said anything suggesting that other posters need to change their opinions...
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Post by matty005 on Sept 16, 2015 6:27:30 GMT -5
To the people who are complaining about posters complaining about this song....Pulse is NOT a fan board, and anyone is allowed to express their opinion. As for this song, I like its sound as a Pop song, but even as a song the lyrics are pretty dang lazy, especially from these guys. Overall I give it a C+, but as a country song I give it a D- If you think that I am posting as a mere "fan" you are sadly mistaken. As far as I understand Pulse is NEITHER a fan board NOR a hater board. I think I am entitled to express dissent with the level of vitriol that has been put on here towards this particular song. I hope that people find my posts and point of view enlightening and that it might even give them pause to reconsider their thoughts. I am willing to do that. It seems like it might be a bit skewed towards longtime members. One of my very first posts on this forum mentioned that I used to detest Kenny Chesney and his music. I was immediately questioned on that. Detest? Yes I did and I'm over it now. So I am merely pointing out that I don't understand why this song and not so many others that are so far from traditional country. If you have any thoughts that I should consider I would welcome that. If not, then maybe I don't understand the purpose of this forum. I enjoy your posting quite a bit, but the reason I asked was I was generally confused. Detest is such a strong word to use for a musician who has done you no harm. What words would you use to describe murderers and rapists, etc, if you are using the word "detest" to talk about a singer who performs songs you don't like? That was the point I was making.
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Post by bksouthga on Sept 16, 2015 7:04:51 GMT -5
I have no desire to place limitations on my vocabulary, even if I sometimes venture into the realm of hyperbole.
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Post by matty005 on Sept 16, 2015 9:25:09 GMT -5
I have no desire to place limitations on my vocabulary, even if I sometimes venture into the realm of hyperbole. Finding a better word to describe the situation you're feeling is not limiting your vocabulary. In fact, it would be expanding it.
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Post by rsmatto on Sept 16, 2015 10:15:01 GMT -5
I know people who "detest" stuff all the time matty005. Humanity is prone to hyperbole. It's ok for someone to detest an artist's music. It may sound like vitriol or horrible to you but "detesting" something is just one way of saying dislike something quite a bit.
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Post by matty005 on Sept 16, 2015 10:38:09 GMT -5
I know people who "detest" stuff all the time matty005. Humanity is prone to hyperbole. It's ok for someone to detest an artist's music. It may sound like vitriol or horrible to you but "detesting" something is just one way of saying dislike something quite a bit. Thanks Matt. The poster above detested his music and Kenny himself. I wasn't saying they couldn't or anything, I was just genuinely curious what a celebrity could possibly do to a person that would make the detest them. I didn't mean any harm by it.
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Post by rsmatto on Sept 16, 2015 11:51:03 GMT -5
I know people who "detest" stuff all the time matty005. Humanity is prone to hyperbole. It's ok for someone to detest an artist's music. It may sound like vitriol or horrible to you but "detesting" something is just one way of saying dislike something quite a bit. Thanks Matt. The poster above detested his music and Kenny himself. I wasn't saying they couldn't or anything, I was just genuinely curious what a celebrity could possibly do to a person that would make the detest them. I didn't mean any harm by it. Again, people do that all the time, just like people detest this song for whatever reason and maybe they'll detest Zac Brown Band going forward or Florida Georgia Line or any other band that makes music they don't like or Chase Rice for offensive tweets.
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Post by zjames on Sept 16, 2015 18:02:01 GMT -5
Sigh. :(
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Post by dm2081 on Sept 16, 2015 18:53:50 GMT -5
Releasing "Dress Blues" and "Wildfire" or "Castaway" will make up for them releasing this 3rd (in my opinion. But following it up with "Tomorrow Never Comes" or "Mango Tree" to country radio will really irritate me.
I'm torn on this. If I'm being perfectly honest, Jeckyl & Hyde is tied for my favorite album if the year, along with Pageant Naterial. So I won't be that upset if they stay with that sort of mixture on the next album. But I'd be lying if I said a part of me didn't miss the Zac a Brown Band from the first two albums. At the very least I'm just thankful the music they're making is good, regardless of the genre.
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Post by robenglund on Sept 16, 2015 21:22:28 GMT -5
At the very least I'm just thankful the music they're making is good, regardless of the genre. Amen to that.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2015 6:21:12 GMT -5
So Zac likes EDM (fine) and he enjoys making it (awesome) and he wants to put out some EDM songs on his next album (also fine) so that more people can find interest in his music and his band (no problem). So to do that he is releasing a song that he all but admitted was not country to country radio to try to springboard into a new fanbase (not okay). Loss of respect from me, not that he cares.
It doesn't really matter much because radio is becoming less and less used, and I'd imagine that trend is magnified with country radio. Hell, I know at least 5 people who actively listened to country radio 3 years ago who don't anymore. I'd have to imagine that's becoming a nationwide trend at this point.
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Post by maine on Sept 17, 2015 10:24:14 GMT -5
So Zac likes EDM (fine) and he enjoys making it (awesome) and he wants to put out some EDM songs on his next album (also fine) so that more people can find interest in his music and his band (no problem). So to do that he is releasing a song that he all but admitted was not country to country radio to try to springboard into a new fanbase (not okay). Loss of respect from me, not that he cares.This is extremely contradicting.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2015 11:31:51 GMT -5
So Zac likes EDM (fine) and he enjoys making it (awesome) and he wants to put out some EDM songs on his next album (also fine) so that more people can find interest in his music and his band (no problem). So to do that he is releasing a song that he all but admitted was not country to country radio to try to springboard into a new fanbase (not okay). Loss of respect from me, not that he cares.This is extremely contradicting. I think what Nick means is that it's ok to EXPAND your fanbase (first part), and honestly, I feel they did that on Uncaged, but it's not OK to try and gather a whole new fanbase who probably wasn't into your earlier stuff, as by doing this, you somewhat alienate your core fan base. This in turn doesn't EXPAND a fanbase, it just attracts a whole new one. (Forgive me if I'm wrong with your interpretation Nick)
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Post by bboat11 on Sept 17, 2015 11:39:09 GMT -5
He was also saying that it is fine for Zac to be experimenting with music that he enjoys making, and expanding his fan base in the process, but he should not say that it is straight-up EDM music and then release it to Country radio anyway. That's an insult to the genre.
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Post by maine on Sept 17, 2015 11:57:58 GMT -5
This is extremely contradicting. I think what Nick means is that it's ok to EXPAND your fanbase (first part), and honestly, I feel they did that on Uncaged, but it's not OK to try and gather a whole new fanbase who probably wasn't into your earlier stuff, as by doing this, you somewhat alienate your core fan base. This in turn doesn't EXPAND a fanbase, it just attracts a whole new one. (Forgive me if I'm wrong with your interpretation Nick) That's better wording. I don't think one song alienates a fan base considering most of the album is still country. I think the whole album brought in new fans (like myself, though I did like them before), while also keeping touch with their old fans.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2015 12:03:27 GMT -5
Basically, thanks guys. If he wants to make more rock, make a rock song and send it to rock radio. Simple. He did that twice.
If he wants to make more EDM, make an EDM song and send it to pop or HAC. Why could he do with "Heavy is the Head" and "Junkyard" what he can't do with "Beautiful Drug"?
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Post by .indulgecountry on Sept 17, 2015 18:23:16 GMT -5
Off-topic but seeing this conversation just now makes me realize we have way too many Nicks on this forum, lol.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2015 12:40:13 GMT -5
Heard this on the radio and it WAS the CD version, I think as most of us expected.
By the second chorus my girlfriend was legitimately flabbergasted.
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Post by dm2081 on Oct 2, 2015 17:24:17 GMT -5
For those interested, here is Avicii's new song featuring Zac Brown on vocals. Has a similar feel to "Beautiful Drug", so I figured I'd post it in this thread.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2015 19:51:49 GMT -5
I'm not sure why people have chosen this song to draw their "line in the sand" when it comes to what radio stations could or should play. As I sit here listening to my terrestrial radio station, I'm thinking that probably the majority, not the minority, is non-traditional country, Or perhaps not country at all.so I think that to vilify this song in particular is a bit disingenuous. I will reserve my more scathing critiques for those less talented and creative then ZBB or Sam Hunt. The "Country vs. not Country" discussion has been happening for decades; I think the strong reaction has more to do with the fact that every mainstream Country act is changing their sound, and almost no artists are sticking with what made them Country in the first place. Granted, ZBB has an advantage because they've never labeled themselves as Country (and therefore experimentation might be easier to swallow), but again, just because ZBB released it doesn't mean "Beautiful Drug" is Country (or that some people can't be upset by its choice as a single). Frankly, it seems ironic that Zach says the band doesn't want to abandon Country (and that they made an album with some Country music), yet this is the type of song they chose to release. If the goal was simply to expand their sound but appease their Country fans with a few Country songs, then why release this at all? I think ZZB is great, but this song is not Country in any way, shape, or form, and I actually think it's pretty cliche and weak lyrically, too. I've found ZBB's blend of styles to be refreshing, but this is the first song from them that just doesn't feel genuine to me. At all. Just because ZBB is arguably more talented than most of their contemporaries doesn't/shouldn't mean they're exempt from criticism, or that people have to enjoy it because it's not by Sam Hunt, or another artist someone else might deem as inferior artistically.
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Post by bksouthga on Oct 2, 2015 21:52:47 GMT -5
Just because ZBB is arguably more talented than most of their contemporaries doesn't/shouldn't mean they're exempt from criticism, or that people have to enjoy it because it's not by Sam Hunt, or another artist someone else might deem as inferior artistically. Please note that I mentioned ZBB and Sam Hunt in the same sentence. Together. I really like Sam and whether or not the "gatekeepers" or "Puritans" or whatever I decide to call them at time think that it's country, I respect him as an artist and respect his creativity.
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Post by SoMuchToSay on Oct 5, 2015 21:25:54 GMT -5
This song was instantly my favorite song from the moment I first listened to the album. It gives me a very "I Gotta Feeling" vibe. At the same time, as much as I like the song, I was shocked when I heard it on a COUNTRY station for the first time yesterday. Great song, but I would hardly consider this a country song. It makes "Live Forever" and "Dibs" sound like classic honky-tonk songs.
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Post by phil1996 on Oct 5, 2015 21:36:59 GMT -5
Country or not, I really enjoy this. Infectious beat. I imagine this is gonna be pretty big.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Oct 5, 2015 23:28:42 GMT -5
It gives me a very "I Gotta Feeling" vibe. So you think it's just the same line over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over for what feels like 16 hours? I keep forgetting, what kind of night did the Black Eyed Peas feel like it was gonna be again? They really weren't clear on that issue. Maybe they should've said another 8 or 9 billion times, because I just didn't get it in the first 8 billion.
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Post by joey2002 on Oct 6, 2015 0:05:13 GMT -5
Is there seriously no radio edit for this?
It would be so easy to make it more "country" sounding.
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Post by SoMuchToSay on Oct 6, 2015 10:18:58 GMT -5
It gives me a very "I Gotta Feeling" vibe. So you think it's just the same line over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over for what feels like 16 hours? I keep forgetting, what kind of night did the Black Eyed Peas feel like it was gonna be again? They really weren't clear on that issue. Maybe they should've said another 8 or 9 billion times, because I just didn't get it in the first 8 billion. Not lyrically, just the production when it picks up.
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