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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 16:19:44 GMT -5
I can't help thinking Scotty's re-appearance on yesterday's MB chart was a glitch of some sort because he jumped from outside the top 50 to 49 with a -61 bullet. It's possible, I guess, but not likely. Anyway, Chris Young and Cassadee Pope replaced him in that spot today. I'm thinking that's probably what should have happened in the first place. Anyone who has watched the MB charts over the years knows it would not be unprecedented for them to make a goof like that. The bottom line is Lauren is still out of the top 50. Looks like two songs will go recurrent this week, so hopefully she's not falling back so far that she'll miss the top 50 again. It actually wasn't a glitch on Mediabase's part. What happens is that Mediabase waits until Sunday evening to remove their recurrents for the week. In the rolling update yesterday morning ( see here), Tim McGraw and Cam were still on the chart. But yesterday evening they were sent recurrent, so the songs that were 51 and 52 moved to 49 and 50, respectively. And those songs were "Southern Belle" and "When I'm Gone". And now today, with Sunday's airplay added in, Scotty was pushed back to at least #51, as Chris/Cassadee and Craig both passed him. Over in the Country Mediabase Top 200 thread, you can see the published Mediabase chart from last night, and it goes below #50 (thanks to trebor). As we know, Scotty and Craig were at 49 and 50. From there, it was Mo Pitney at #51, Lauren at #52, Chris/Cassadee at #53, Hank Williams Jr. at #54, Big & Rich at #55, etc. We can't see below #50 in today's update, but we know that Chris/Cassadee jumped 53-49 (aided by the two recurrents) and Craig held at #50, which means Scotty probably fell to #51. Lauren had a pretty flat week, and there simply aren't enough songs going recurrent right now for her to be able to stay in the top 50.
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Post by mikem on Jan 18, 2016 19:46:52 GMT -5
Yup, only one recurrent coming this week. I thought McGraw was still there, but I see he's already gone. Morgan's song is pretty flat, so passing him seems doable. Lauren's song must be worse than flat this week, though.
The reason I thought Scotty's song could be a glitch was that when he fell off the chart Laruen stayed at 50. Obviously, Lauren's song took a downturn and fell back below Scotty. It's frustrating watching the performance of this song, which I think is her most marketable single yet, and the vocal performance is pretty extraordinary. Now, of course, there are other big names coming behind her. Seems there always is.
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Post by sabre14 on Jan 18, 2016 20:00:03 GMT -5
Yup, only one recurrent coming this week. I thought McGraw was still there, but I see he's already gone. Morgan's song is pretty flat, so passing him seems doable. Lauren's song must be worse than flat this week, though. The reason I thought Scotty's song could be a glitch was that when he fell off the chart Laruen stayed at 50. Obviously, Lauren's song took a downturn and fell back below Scotty. It's frustrating watching the performance of this song, which I think is her most marketable single yet, and the vocal performance is pretty extraordinary. Now, of course, there are other big names coming behind her. Seems there always is. Lauren actually only lost 1 spin and 50k in audience this week, whereas Craig lost 14 spins and 100k in audience. Craig though was able to gain more Mediabase points due to some likely bigger market stations giving his song more spins and audience to influence the points system enough to slide into the top 50. The songs from #49-#52 must be extremely close in total points.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 20:12:41 GMT -5
The reason I thought Scotty's song could be a glitch was that when he fell off the chart Laruen stayed at 50. Obviously, Lauren's song took a downturn and fell back below Scotty. Hmmm. I'm not seeing where Lauren stayed at or was at 50 yesterday. The rolling (morning) update for January 17 had Joe Nichols at 49 and Lindsay Ell at 50 (neither Scotty nor Lauren were in the top 50), and then the official published update from last night (which can be seen on AllAccess) had Joe and Lindsay moving up to 47 and 48 (due to the two recurrents), with Scotty at 49 and Craig at 50. This morning's rolling update has Scotty being pushed out of the top 50 by Chris/Cassadee (which means that, since yesterday, Scotty also fell below Craig). The last day I saw Lauren in the top 50 was the 15th. Scotty seems to be done, and Chris/Cassadee will obviously climb pretty quickly, but the others (Joe Nichols, Lindsay Ell, Craig Morgan, and Lauren) are all very close in terms of total points, as sabre14 just pointed out, and none of them is exactly blazing a trail, so it's possible that we'll see them trade spots occasionally over the next few weeks.
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Post by mikem on Jan 18, 2016 20:19:22 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't mean yesterday. Lauren was at 50 for four days last week while Scotty fell off the chart. But, when Lauren also fell out of the Top 50 late in the week, she obviously fell below Scotty since he made it back onto the chart (temporarily, it seems) instead of her.
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Post by hosssulpizio on Jan 18, 2016 21:11:58 GMT -5
The music video was just okay for me. It's very different.
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Post by maine on Jan 19, 2016 13:22:23 GMT -5
Finally checked out her EP and it's really good. The only track I didn't like was "History", which was too overproduced for my liking. All the other songs are top-notch though. Can't wait for her full length.
Also hope this can do well, but it doesn't look all that great. :'(
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Post by bigfan101 on Feb 5, 2016 9:10:22 GMT -5
Guess who is back in the top 50 today with a (small, but lets not be picky) bullet!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 11:39:59 GMT -5
I'm very happy to see this back in the Top 50, and with 4 recurrent songs this week (Thomas, LoCash, Jana Kramer, and Little Big Town) I think Lauren will be able to stay in the Top 50 and probably won't get knocked out until the label is done promoting it, however much longer they keep promoting it remains anybody's guess but hopefully this appearance in the Top 50 will give stations more incentive to play this song. I at least hope!
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Post by sabre14 on Feb 14, 2016 17:19:39 GMT -5
"Next Boyfriend" only gained 8 spins and 120k in audience this week but with the help of three recurrents, Lauren's song moves up five spots to #44 on Mediabase this week.
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Post by Marv on Feb 14, 2016 20:56:51 GMT -5
Well with King George and Craig Morgan also ludicrously confined to the lower echelons of the Mediabase chart alongside this criminally underplayed gem, is anyone else as disgusted as I am about the current state of country radio?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2016 21:04:35 GMT -5
So I have been working on my chart predictions (they'll be here shortly ;) ).
Anyway due to the epic housecleaning (Brothers Osborne, Brad Paisley, Eric Church, Lindsay Ell and Tyler Farr) anyway Lauren will for sure be setting a new peak this week. As she will gain a +5 from all those songs leaving and she might be able too pass Love & Theft so "Next Boyfriend" looks to land in the #42-#43 range if she can pass Love & Theft.
It's not a lot but it does make me happy seeing this song at least semi close to the Top 40. It's a shame this got buried in the fall :| Lauren Alaina is a gem, she has the looks, talent, charisma, and personality for a superstar. It's why I still wish to this day she would have won American Idol (no offense Scotty McCreery fans) I just feel like Lauren Alaina would've had possibly more of a shot.
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Post by M&TSwiftie on Feb 14, 2016 21:14:34 GMT -5
So I have been working on my chart predictions (they'll be here shortly ;) ). Anyway due to the epic housecleaning (Brothers Osborne, Brad Paisley, Eric Church, Lindsay Ell and Tyler Farr) anyway Lauren will for sure be setting a new peak this week. As she will gain a +5 from all those songs leaving and she might be able too pass Love & Theft so "Next Boyfriend" looks to land in the #42-#43 range if she can pass Love & Theft. It's not a lot but it does make me happy seeing this song at least semi close to the Top 40. It's a shame this got buried in the fall :| Lauren Alaina is a gem, she has the looks, talent, charisma, and personality for a superstar. It's why I still wish to this day she would have won American Idol (no offense Scotty McCreery fans) I just feel like Lauren Alaina would've had possibly more of a shot. I agree on that statement too. Plus she wouldn't be struggling. Oh but this song still I hope top 40 then painting pillows is next
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Post by austin on Feb 15, 2016 19:32:42 GMT -5
I am pretty sure she's never going to make it, at least not on the current label. This song had hit potential and if it can't go anywhere she probably can't do much.
The video wasn't bad but the stairwell shots of her along are cringeworthy bad. I wish she broke through with this, her vocals are great.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2016 11:05:07 GMT -5
While "Next Boyfriend" looks to fall back a spot this week to #45 since Eric Church and Dan + Shay made the pass, Next Boyfriend regardless looks to have gained this week 150K in audience and about 30 spins as well this week. Nothing outstanding or even great, but it looks like it's very slowly moving up and making strides.
I was actually really surprised that Lauren Alaina performed at CRS last week. I know the label had everybody basically but I still found myself surprised by it. I do wonder with "Next Boyfriend" probably not lasting a whole lot longer (I give it until end of March maybe April at the latest for this song to last as I imagine the label is probably now shooting for a Top 40 finish since it's fairly close to that I think) I wonder if they might release "I'm Doing Fine" it certainly isn't radio friendly but with performing it at CRS that could give radio more incentive to play that song possibly. This is of course all speculation as it remains to be determined how much longer "Next Boyfriend" lasts.
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Post by loveofmusic on Feb 21, 2016 12:31:19 GMT -5
While "Next Boyfriend" looks to fall back a spot this week to #45 since Eric Church and Dan + Shay made the pass, Next Boyfriend regardless looks to have gained this week 150K in audience and about 30 spins as well this week. Nothing outstanding or even great, but it looks like it's very slowly moving up and making strides. I was actually really surprised that Lauren Alaina performed at CRS last week. I know the label had everybody basically but I still found myself surprised by it. I do wonder with "Next Boyfriend" probably not lasting a whole lot longer (I give it until end of March maybe April at the latest for this song to last as I imagine the label is probably now shooting for a Top 40 finish since it's fairly close to that I think) I wonder if they might release "I'm Doing Fine" it certainly isn't radio friendly but with performing it at CRS that could give radio more incentive to play that song possibly. This is of course all speculation as it remains to be determined how much longer "Next Boyfriend" lasts. While "Next Boyfriend" is still climbing, it's not gaining a lot of spins & AI that makes me think it won't last a lot longer on the charts. The label is still trying, but if this single & possibly another single doesn't work I'm worried she would be dropped. She doesn't have the big winning contract from Idol, but runner-ups do have a pretty substantial contract. The label does support her, but I wonder if the contract, low sales (EP's last updated sales were 1,600 sold), not much chart success, etc. will be too much to give her more chances. I hope not, but unfortunately these factors could soon be an issue.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2016 12:48:29 GMT -5
While "Next Boyfriend" looks to fall back a spot this week to #45 since Eric Church and Dan + Shay made the pass, Next Boyfriend regardless looks to have gained this week 150K in audience and about 30 spins as well this week. Nothing outstanding or even great, but it looks like it's very slowly moving up and making strides. I was actually really surprised that Lauren Alaina performed at CRS last week. I know the label had everybody basically but I still found myself surprised by it. I do wonder with "Next Boyfriend" probably not lasting a whole lot longer (I give it until end of March maybe April at the latest for this song to last as I imagine the label is probably now shooting for a Top 40 finish since it's fairly close to that I think) I wonder if they might release "I'm Doing Fine" it certainly isn't radio friendly but with performing it at CRS that could give radio more incentive to play that song possibly. This is of course all speculation as it remains to be determined how much longer "Next Boyfriend" lasts. While "Next Boyfriend" is still climbing, it's not gaining a lot of spins & AI that makes me think it won't last a lot longer on the charts. The label is still trying, but if this single & possibly another single doesn't work I'm worried she would be dropped. She doesn't have the big winning contract from Idol, but runner-ups do have a pretty substantial contract. The label does support her, but I wonder if the contract, low sales (EP's last updated sales were 1,600 sold), not much chart success, etc. will be too much to give her more chances. I hope not, but unfortunately these factors could soon be an issue. Oh no don't get me wrong "Next Boyfriend" at the very most will last a month maybe two months if the label is really determined to ride this one out. The sales are definitely low as a whole since well it's an EP. I think once "Next Boyfriend" does leave the chart Lauren Alaina's fate will be one of two options either A) they'll send one more song out since she did perform for CRS (probably if they do send out another song it'd be released April or May) which I would do "Road Less Traveled" or "Crashing The Boys Club" (that's not on the EP but I imagine they have the studio version ready to go) or B) she'll be dropped from the label. I could see Lauren Alaina doing another Radio tour just for the sake that I feel like she'd be more willing to do that again but it does cost the label money but I imagine she'd be willing to do it again so who knows on that angel. Lauren has to get a hit even a moderately sized hit like a Top 20 to be a long term stay on her label otherwise she's as good as gone. I'd figure with the initial hype (radio tour) and early sales for "Next Boyfriend" (the day it was released on iTunes it was in the Top 20) that Lauren would've had more of a shot. I do think if Lauren Alaina does get dropped by her label she could sign to another label (preferably Black River, Broken Bow or one of those labels) possibly, due to her American Idol background that could help people sign her. Edit; I decided to look up Lauren Alaina label Mercury Nashville and I actually think even if "Next Boyfriend" does leave soon I think they'll get a new song out soon enough cause let's see, Kacey Musgraves probably isn't going to be releasing anything anytime soon, Sugarland won't be anytime soon as Jennifer Nettles "Unlove You" just started it's run and Kristian Bush just signed to Broken Bow, Shania Twain Hahahaha!! She probably doesn't have anything. Easton Corbin is probably done with his album era as they've wasted a lot of time on "Yup. So that leaves Canaan Smith who has "Hole In A Bottle", Billy Currington has his new one and Chris Stapleton is well Chris Stapleton. Then there's Lauren so I could see her having a new song shortly after "Next Boyfriend" is done since no one else has anything immediately out.
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Post by bigfan101 on Feb 24, 2016 9:20:09 GMT -5
Nice update today, which gives me hope this could still make the top 40! jhomes87 and sabre14, what is the record for number of weeks on the chart before cracking the top 40?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2016 9:30:10 GMT -5
Nice update today, which gives me hope this could still make the top 40! jhomes87 and sabre14 , what is the record for number of weeks on the chart before cracking the top 40? The reason why this song had a nice update today is primarily cause KKBQ is bumping up "Next Boyfriend" rotation as it's up 10 spins from last week. If that station which is one of the top stations for the country pannel can continue to rise "Next Boyfriend" in rotation Lauren should have a great chance of reaching the Top 40 within the next couple of weeks (probably more of a chance of BB). Based on last years chart I think Mo Pitney "Country" may have spent a long time outside the Top 40. But I'm not entirely sure so no one quote me that'd be my guess. I am still stubbornly hoping this can still somehow take off, I know it's unrealistic to expect it to at this point but I hope somehow Lauren Alaina can be a star.
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Post by sabre14 on Feb 24, 2016 12:12:31 GMT -5
jhomes87 and sabre14 , what is the record for number of weeks on the chart before cracking the top 40? Haven't gone back to do a full run down but I do know "When It Rains" by Eli Young Band took 25 weeks to crack the Billboard top 40 (non-consecutive). Nice update today, which gives me hope this could still make the top 40! jhomes87 and sabre14 , what is the record for number of weeks on the chart before cracking the top 40? The reason why this song had a nice update today is primarily cause KKBQ is bumping up "Next Boyfriend" rotation as it's up 10 spins from last week. If that station which is one of the top stations for the country pannel can continue to rise "Next Boyfriend" in rotation Lauren should have a great chance of reaching the Top 40 within the next couple of weeks (probably more of a chance of BB). KKBQ in Houston contributed 35-37k of "Next Boyfriend's" audience today (of the nearly 100k gained) -- over one third. Lauren's song is still seeing gains on most stations spinning her song, so I definitely think this one can get to the top 40 but since it's 20 weeks old, the clock is ticking on this one becoming anything other than a top 40 single -- which is something Lauren's done a few times.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2016 9:03:04 GMT -5
Wow! :O Lauren Alaina was pretty close to go recurrent on Billboard in case anyone didn't noticed. Lauren Alaina turned out to gain 10 spins and gained .002 in audience, Ouch! Just that was close!! If there is some good news for Lauren Alaina this week is that she picked up 5 adds this week (none of them give a ton of audience except one, WLHK). So the label is still promoting this and it did get a decent amount of adds so there is still potential for a Top 40 finish (probably not happening this week however). Hopefully Lauren can somehow find a way into the Top 40 but the clock is ticking on her to get there or anywhere higher.
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Post by maine on Mar 1, 2016 10:43:12 GMT -5
I guess you say this has had amazing longevity for a song that hasn't even made it past #44 (on Mediabase).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2016 10:55:28 GMT -5
I guess you say this has had amazing longevity for a song that hasn't even made it past #44 (on Mediabase). Correction it's peak on Mediabase so far is #43 (it'll probably go down as that too).
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Post by maine on Mar 1, 2016 10:57:11 GMT -5
I guess you say this has had amazing longevity for a song that hasn't even made it past #44 (on Mediabase). Correction it's peak on Mediabase so far is #43 (it'll probably go down as that too). According to Kworb, its peak is #44. I do agree that it likely won't pass that, and if it does, only by a little.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2016 11:02:15 GMT -5
Correction it's peak on Mediabase so far is #43 (it'll probably go down as that too). According to Kworb, its peak is #44. I do agree that it likely won't pass that, and if it does, only by a little. Actually it's #43 because this last Sunday Lauren was at #45 and then by the end of Sunday Night they sent two songs ahead of Lauren Alaina recurrent (Brad Paisley and Easton Corbin) so theoretically her peak is #43. I doubt she can get Top 40 on BB or MB as Lauren right now on Billboard is at #46, so she will need a lot of luck and a lot of songs to start falling for "Next Boyfriend" to have a chance. I just hope they release "Road Less Traveled" as a single once "Next Boyfriend" is done.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2016 16:32:40 GMT -5
Wow! :O Lauren Alaina was pretty close to go recurrent on Billboard in case anyone didn't noticed. Lauren Alaina turned out to gain 10 spins and gained .002 in audience, Ouch! Just that was close!! Lauren wasn't very close to going recurrent last night. Sure, "Next Boyfriend" has spent 21 weeks on the chart so one bad week could send her recurrent, but if she had lost her bullet on last night's chart, she would have been much more likely (99%) to get a grace week than to go recurrent. She'd need to have a pretty bad week in order for Billboard to send her recurrent. My guess is that Lauren would have stayed on unless she lost more than 400k. Billboard is much more likely to give her a grace week so long as the song doesn't start to plummet.
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Post by travelrocks24 on Mar 1, 2016 19:56:20 GMT -5
I listen to Renegade Radio Nashville a lot at work and at least once a day, I would hear this song, but I haven't heard it in a week. Now, that could mean it is played after I am done with work (I work an early to mid afternoon shift) but it is odd that I haven't heard it.
I take it the recurrent chart is the primary/major markets?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2016 20:10:28 GMT -5
I take it the recurrent chart is the primary/major markets? When it comes to chart-watching, the term "recurrent" is used to describe a song that has fallen off the charts. For example, if you look at the latest Billboard chart, there is a "Recurrents" section on page 8. These are songs that are still getting a lot of airplay (many are still top 20 in overall airplay) but because they have already peaked, they are moved off the Country Airplay chart (which only shows current songs) and moved to recurrent status. The Billboard Country Airplay chart and the Country Aircheck/Mediabase chart are the two main charts that reflect the biggest markets. There are 151 stations whose airplay contributes to the Billboard chart, and 157 for Mediabase (most stations report to both Billboard and Mediabase, but there are a few Billboard-only stations and a few Mediabase-only stations). Generally, airplay from stations that are in a market size ranging from 1-130 will count on the main Billboard and Mediabase charts. The biggest market (rank #1) is of course New York City, and Los Angeles is #2, Chicago #3, and so on and so forth. Billboard publishes a secondary chart, called Billboard Country Indicator, that reflects airplay at smaller market stations. The Country Aircheck/Mediabase smaller market chart is called the Activator chart. Hopefully I didn't lose you anywhere! If you have any chart-related questions, you can always PM me, too. :)
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Post by travelrocks24 on Mar 2, 2016 6:36:11 GMT -5
Thanks, that does help.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2016 20:54:13 GMT -5
"Next Boyfriend" has to re-bullet this next week as Lauren Alaina lost her bullet pretty easily this week. What helps Lauren is she has 6 adds this week as reported by Country Aircheck (what 6 they are I don't know, hopefully something like KSCS in Dallas which could really help).
This song, won't last much longer, I do hope though that like what they did with Clare Dunn is that UMG releases another song off Lauren's EP (preferably "Road Less Traveled"). It'll be a shame if this the last song from Lauren.
Also, I saw on Lauren Alaina's Twitter (no I don't have a Twitter account), that Lauren recently performed a show with Carrie Underwood. That must've been an interesting show to attend.
If this can somehow, find its way into the Top 40 that'd be great but I have a lot of doubts.
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