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Post by sabre14 on Jan 24, 2016 23:35:24 GMT -5
"Cold Beer Conversation" retains its bullet on Mediabase this week since it gained 29 net spins from last Sunday. It will lose total points due to the fact that it lost about 600k in audience but the spin gain will suffice for George's bullet. This song also fell three spots but stayed in the top 40, at #40 (leaped by Justin Moore, Kip Moore and Dierks).
This is quite comical. "Cold Beer Conversation" was sent recurrent on the Billboard chart before Christmas, yet it will now be guaranteed to stay on the Mediabase chart until February. It pains me to see such an amusing, yet sad chart run for someone like George Strait but unfortunately, that seems to be his norm these days on the Country music singles charts.
Sorry for the update, Zazie.
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Post by razorback9926 on Jan 25, 2016 12:35:09 GMT -5
Equally comical is that it's up to 998 spins today, only 4 away from its peak of 1,002 spins 5-6 weeks ago. Yet its audience level is still over 1M lower than its peak audience back then. It's hanging around just high enough to prevent a third single from being released yet (I have no real hopes for any George song to ever race up the charts again).
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Post by sabre14 on Jan 27, 2016 12:44:01 GMT -5
The end of this one is about here. "Cold Beer Conversation" lost 38 spins and 300k in audience today, with a net loss of 440k in audience since Sunday. George's song actually had a net gain in spins (7) since Sunday (wouldn't be hilarious if he retained his bullet again from a single digit spin gain?). Most of the audience lost this week is due to KCYY in San Antonio cutting "Cold Beer Conversation's" spins in half.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Feb 1, 2016 21:47:07 GMT -5
MCA is still pushing this according to an ad on Aircheck
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Post by rbundy1987 on Feb 1, 2016 21:54:59 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2016 21:56:37 GMT -5
Why even bother with this song it's lasted way too long on MB and it should just leave it's not going to make anymore progress.
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Post by sabre14 on Feb 1, 2016 22:00:28 GMT -5
I admire the persistence from the label but they can put whatever meaningless stream percentage increase, or research at "two" total stations ad they desire in Aircheck, this one won't be doing anything more. "Cold Beer Conversation" is through.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2016 0:46:45 GMT -5
I admire the persistence from the label but they can put whatever meaningless stream percentage increase, or research at "two" total stations ad they desire in Aircheck, this one won't be doing anything more. "Cold Beer Conversation" is through. I wouldn't say that this song is done. Obviously I don't think it's going top 30, but if the label is still promoting it and if it can get even 1-2 big stations to ramp up its spins, it's probably gonna continue to linger on the cusp of the top 40. That's really all it takes. In terms of its chart peak, yeah, it probably won't be able to reach its previous peak position, but don't be surprised if this lingers around for another few weeks.
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Post by bboat11 on Feb 2, 2016 1:17:01 GMT -5
I say it's time to let this one go. It did quite well for him considering his recent track record with radio. I say the sooner we get the 3rd single out there, the more likely we are to see him get back near the top 30 again. If this song continues to hang in limbo being almost in the top 40 on Mediabase and stupidly not even on the Billboard airplay chart, we are going to see his momentum get smaller very quickly with every passing week, and he honestly can't afford to waste any momentum right now.
Unless there are no plans to release a 3rd single. In that case, I would say CONTINUE PUSHING THIS FOREVERRRRRR!!!!! #1 OR BUST!!!! WHO CARES IF IT TAKES 150 WEEKS!!
Lol wouldn't it be funny if it did turn around and peak at #1, but it was a Mediabase-only #1 because Billboard continued to refuse to re-chart it?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2016 1:23:53 GMT -5
Unless there are no plans to release a 3rd single. I'm not sure if I see them releasing another single. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they treat this the same way they treated Alan Jackson's Angels and Alcohol album...lead single barely scrapes the bottom of the chart (MCA is pretending that this was the lead single, not "Let It Go"), and then nothing gets released after that. I mean, they could send another song to radio, but I'm pretty sure we all know it'll do even less than CBC did. So they might just be thinking "Why not just keep this title track floating around out there for a bit longer?" [shrugs]
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Post by sabre14 on Feb 2, 2016 6:06:44 GMT -5
I admire the persistence from the label but they can put whatever meaningless stream percentage increase, or research at "two" total stations ad they desire in Aircheck, this one won't be doing anything more. "Cold Beer Conversation" is through. I wouldn't say that this song is done. Obviously I don't think it's going top 30, but if the label is still promoting it and if it can get even 1-2 big stations to ramp up its spins, it's probably gonna continue to linger on the cusp of the top 40. That's really all it takes. In terms of its chart peak, yeah, it probably won't be able to reach its previous peak position, but don't be surprised if this lingers around for another few weeks. The big station or two helps but it's not enough to offset the other 90 some odd stations that are not helping this one and are either not converting it or decreasing its spins, which is why George has been staying flat or losing spins. 1/3rd of the spin leaders for "Cold Beer Conversation" has decreased its spins over the past seven days and KAJA for example (which MCA pointed out with its research in the Aircheck ad) only gave George 18 total spins last week, resulting in 120k of its audience -- I only see that staying the same at best. I wouldn't be surprised if George's last Mediabase chart week is this upcoming week. He did lose 253 points after all, along with nearly 2.0 million in audience. The spin totals are the only chance of re-bulleting and even that's a large task with this single.
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Post by sabre14 on Feb 4, 2016 14:07:47 GMT -5
"Cold Beer Conversation" is done. George has lost 125 spins since Sunday and over 80 spins the past three days. He's also lost 500k in total audience this week. This Sunday should be its last Mediabase chart appearance.
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Post by Zazie on Feb 4, 2016 22:29:46 GMT -5
"Cold Beer Conversation" is done. George has lost 125 spins since Sunday and over 80 spins the past three days. He's also lost 500k in total audience this week. This Sunday should be its last Mediabase chart appearance. Thanks for chronicling this song's staggering two-steps-forward and three-steps-back chart run. I'm hoping for a third single but I wouldn't be surprised if that doesn't happen. I hope he'll still get 100+ stations to spin his next lead single, another outcome that can't be guaranteed.
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Post by Marv on Feb 5, 2016 6:28:01 GMT -5
The bro-country gridlock/mindset claims yet another victim---can't say that many of us didn't see this coming several weeks ago.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 17:19:22 GMT -5
The bro-country gridlock/mindset claims yet another victim---can't say that many of us didn't see this coming several weeks ago. I really don't think that's the main issue here. I love George and this sounds like a radio hit, but the fact that it wasn't probably has very little to do with bro-country (There really isn't a lot of what I'd call bro-country singles out there right now anyway). Most artists are lucky to have 10-15 good years at radio. A select few or a group of superstars might have 15-20 years of big radio hits. George is in his 60's now and his career has lasted nearly 35 years now. Radio wasn't going to play him forever. The fact that they were still playing him in 2000 and 2005 was impressive. Many artists that came onto the scene in the 90's and early 00's aren't even getting played anymore. And it goes beyond George's age, too. He's at the point where the people that work in radio now are not the same people that were there 30 years ago, most weren't there 20 years ago, and a lot weren't there 10 years ago, either. I'm sure that the people that work for radio now have tremendous respect for George and I'm sure that most are big fans of his music, but the fact is that the vast majority of radio folks today were not the ones that helped turn George into a superstar over the past few decades. They weren't "along for the ride". Today, pretty much every artist (especially the new ones) is expected to go on a radio tour, or if they're playing a concert nearby, they're expected to invite influential radio folks to hang out backstage. George isn't touring anymore and he's certainly not out there visiting radio stations, either. I hate that it's like that (it should be about the quality of the music, not about which artist logged the most hours hanging out with radio folks), but I don't foresee it changing anytime in the near future. It's why an artist like Kacey Musgraves isn't likely to have much radio success (because she's not out there "hanging out" with radio programmers like all artists are expected to do).
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Post by bksouthga on Feb 6, 2016 0:38:33 GMT -5
I would venture to say there are only two 90s artists who are still forces to be reckoned with on the charts, and that's Kenny Chesney and Tim McGraw. And they are still cranking them out. Unless you count Brad Paisley and Keith Urban, who released albums in 99, although they didn't really hit their stride until 2000 (yes I know Brad had a couple of hits in 99). But they are the next two for sure.
All that said, George's career has been nothing short of remarkable. How many artists can release a 4-disc box set and then turn right around and make arguably the best album of their career right after (Blue Clear Sky)? How many #1s has he had post box set?
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Post by onebuffalo on Feb 6, 2016 10:40:01 GMT -5
I would venture to say there are only two 90s artists who are still forces to be reckoned with on the charts, and that's Kenny Chesney and Tim McGraw. And they are still cranking them out. Unless you count Brad Paisley and Keith Urban, who released albums in 99, although they didn't really hit their stride until 2000 (yes I know Brad had a couple of hits in 99). But they are the next two for sure. All that said, George's career has been nothing short of remarkable. How many artists can release a 4-disc box set and then turn right around and make arguably the best album of their career right after (Blue Clear Sky)? How many #1s has he had post box set? George Strait's #1s post 1995: 29. Blue Clear Sky-1996 30. Carried Away-1996 31. One Night At A Time-1997 32. Carrying Your Love With Me-1997 33. Round About Way-1998 34. I Just Want To Dance With You-1998 35. Write This Down-1999 36. The Best Day-2000 37. Living And Living Well-2002 38. She'll Leave You With A Smile-2002 39. I Hate Everything-2004 40. She Let Herself Go-2006 41. Give It Away-2006 42. It Just Comes Natural-2007 43. I Saw God Today-2008 44. River Of Love-2009
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Post by sabre14 on Feb 6, 2016 15:19:36 GMT -5
I would venture to say there are only two 90s artists who are still forces to be reckoned with on the charts, and that's Kenny Chesney and Tim McGraw. And they are still cranking them out. Unless you count Brad Paisley and Keith Urban, who released albums in 99, although they didn't really hit their stride until 2000 (yes I know Brad had a couple of hits in 99). But they are the next two for sure. All that said, George's career has been nothing short of remarkable. How many artists can release a 4-disc box set and then turn right around and make arguably the best album of their career right after (Blue Clear Sky)? How many #1s has he had post box set? I would venture to say there are only two 90s artists who are still forces to be reckoned with on the charts, and that's Kenny Chesney and Tim McGraw. And they are still cranking them out. Unless you count Brad Paisley and Keith Urban, who released albums in 99, although they didn't really hit their stride until 2000 (yes I know Brad had a couple of hits in 99). But they are the next two for sure. All that said, George's career has been nothing short of remarkable. How many artists can release a 4-disc box set and then turn right around and make arguably the best album of their career right after (Blue Clear Sky)? How many #1s has he had post box set? George Strait's #1s post 1995: 29. Blue Clear Sky-1996 30. Carried Away-1996 31. One Night At A Time-1997 32. Carrying Your Love With Me-1997 33. Round About Way-1998 34. I Just Want To Dance With You-1998 35. Write This Down-1999 36. The Best Day-2000 37. Living And Living Well-2002 38. She'll Leave You With A Smile-2002 39. I Hate Everything-2004 40. She Let Herself Go-2006 41. Give It Away-2006 42. It Just Comes Natural-2007 43. I Saw God Today-2008 44. River Of Love-2009 R&R/MB only #1's for George since "Blue Clear Sky." "I Can Still Make Cheyenne" - 1996 "Today My World Slipped Away" - 1997 "True" - 1998 "Wrapped" - 2007 "Here For A Good Time" - 2011 "Love's Gonna Make It Alright" - 2012 "Give It All We Got Tonight" - 2013
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Post by dajross6 on Feb 7, 2016 17:51:33 GMT -5
I'd put George's 1996-1998 against anyone else's three year period (Tim McGraw also had a great period at the same time) in terms of chart positions and how the songs have held up.
Blue Clear Sky-1996 Carried Away-1996 I Can Still Make Cheyenne-1996 One Night At A Time-1997 Carrying Your Love With Me-1997 Today My World Slipped Away-1997 Round About Way-1998 I Just Want To Dance With You-1998 True-1998
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