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Post by myeverything on Aug 15, 2016 11:47:03 GMT -5
I'm fine with moving past this single, as much as I love it. At this point though, since it held on for as long as it did I hope it can make it to the top 10. Ready to see what Kip and his team will be doing moving forward. Wish I had gotten the chance to talk to him last week but I did not, it's been a while hence why I'm a little more clueless than usual in the Kip world... sad day!
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Post by bboat11 on Aug 15, 2016 21:51:34 GMT -5
I'm fine with moving past this single, as much as I love it. At this point though, since it held on for as long as it did I hope it can make it to the top 10. Ready to see what Kip and his team will be doing moving forward. Wish I had gotten the chance to talk to him last week but I did not, it's been a while hence why I'm a little more clueless than usual in the Kip world... sad day! Well just imagine how I feel... I have gone 1,221 weeks straight without talking to Kip! It really feels like I have never once talked to a country music star in my entire life!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2016 22:41:32 GMT -5
Oh god.. I would love to meet Kip. I did see him in a very intimate setting a couple years ago though.. One of the best shows I've ever been to.. I was literally 10 feet from Kip.
He pointed me out and made some comment during "reckless" .. Made me very giddy haha.
Anyway .. I love this song and the entire album, but I really want new music from Kip. I love him.
On a related note I have gotten to meet Cam, Easton Corbin and Dean Brody.. That was super cool. I'd love to meet Maren Morris when she comes up here in September.
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Post by bksouthga on Aug 16, 2016 23:25:48 GMT -5
I still enjoy hearing this one when it comes on. The first couple of singles, I didn't like Kip's voice at all but it has really grown on me. I had him lumped in with Brantley Gilbert (who I still don't particularly care for) but now I lump him in with the very raspy Tyler Farr, who has also grown on me.
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Post by robenglund on Aug 17, 2016 13:15:19 GMT -5
I wonder if MCA threw in the white towel. Pretty brutal update today. Nearly on par with "Without A Fight".
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 13:29:31 GMT -5
I wonder if MCA threw in the white towel. Pretty brutal update today. Nearly on par with "Without A Fight". Kip Moore gained 27 spins and nearly 200k in audience so MCA might still be promoting this, but it's quite clear that this won't make it any higher than it has already gotten.
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Post by phil1996 on Aug 17, 2016 13:55:44 GMT -5
They're putting the finishing touches on the new album (via Kips IG)
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Post by robenglund on Aug 17, 2016 14:18:14 GMT -5
I wonder if MCA threw in the white towel. Pretty brutal update today. Nearly on par with "Without A Fight". Kip Moore gained 27 spins and nearly 200k in audience so MCA might still be promoting this, but it's quite clear that this won't make it any higher than it has already gotten. I always wonder where you guys get these numbers from. I'm looking at the 7 day update. You guys must be looking at a daily update. Where do you access that?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 14:19:18 GMT -5
I wonder if MCA threw in the white towel. Pretty brutal update today. Nearly on par with "Without A Fight". As raylatch98 noted, Kip actually gained spins and audience today. Here are the last 7 days for RFY: 08/11: +18 spins, +83k audience 08/12: +2 spins, -158k audience 08/13: -37 spins, +63k audience 08/14: -33 spins, -202k audience 08/15: -19 spins, -14k audience 08/16: -61 spins, +39k audience 08/17: +27 spins, +185k audience So actually today was Kip's best update since August 8, but that's not saying much. This song is hanging by a thread. Kip's 7-day bullet is -104 but that just means that RFY has 104 fewer spins in the last 7 days (11th-17th) than it did the previous 7 days (4th-10th). At this point I don't see any way that this can make the top 10. It got up to #13 on Billboard and I think that will probably end up being its peak. Maybe Kip can hang around for another week or two, but I have to imagine that radio and the label are about to let this one go. I'm just not sure if it will go recurrent this week...so far the signs indicate that it might be able to re-bullet, but it's too early to make any guesses since we're only 2 days into the new Billboard week. ETA: Ha! We were posting at the same time, robenglund. For daily updates, visit this website: kworb.net/radio/You go there and you click on where it says "country". The "spins+" and "audience+" columns are the daily columns, the "bullet" column is the weekly 7-day number. The kworb site is very helpful as it has a link at the top that contains an archive of the daily updates from the last few years.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 14:19:41 GMT -5
Kip Moore gained 27 spins and nearly 200k in audience so MCA might still be promoting this, but it's quite clear that this won't make it any higher than it has already gotten. I always wonder where you guys get these numbers from. I'm looking at the 7 day update. You guys must be looking at a daily update. Where do you access that? Here you go, kworb.net/radio/Just go to the country section
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Post by robenglund on Aug 17, 2016 14:33:28 GMT -5
Thanks raylatch98 and jhomes87 ! Definitely bookmarking that site. Lots of good stuff on there!
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Post by sabre14 on Aug 17, 2016 14:36:50 GMT -5
Thanks raylatch98 and jhomes87 ! Definitely bookmarking that site. Lots of good stuff on there! That site is the most important one for radio chart watching. Once in a great while the site goes down or doesn't get updated (at least for an entire morning) and I feel naked, lol.
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Post by carriekins on Aug 17, 2016 14:38:04 GMT -5
Thanks raylatch98 and jhomes87 ! Definitely bookmarking that site. Lots of good stuff on there! That site is the most important one for radio chart watching. Once in a great while the site goes down or doesn't get updated (at least for an entire morning) and I feel naked, lol. My life has no meaning on those mornings. ;)
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Post by myeverything on Aug 18, 2016 9:24:56 GMT -5
Still wishing they'd put out another single from this album (and they still may, but not so confident in that at this point). It just has so many other great songs on it that'll never see the light of day. They 100% did the same thing with "Up All Night" too. I don't know why Kip's team (sure, Kip too, but this one's mostly his team) feel the need to let go of these albums so soon.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 9:37:04 GMT -5
Still wishing they'd put out another single from this album (and they still may, but not so confident in that at this point). It just has so many other great songs on it that'll never see the light of day. They 100% did the same thing with "Up All Night" too. I don't know why Kip's team (sure, Kip too, but this one's mostly his team) feel the need to let go of these albums so soon. There is no way they will release another single (heck I think that's why radio has held on to this song as long as they have). I will say this you can only expect 2-3 singles for someone of Kip Moore's position in country music l. Kip Moore is a B to C lister so you can only expect 2-3 singles. Also when you add in the fact that Kip Moore likes to make new music quickly, I am not shocked that Kip will move on to another album. "Running For You" is probably done now if today's update is any indication Kip lost 59 spins and 124k in audience. Assuming Kip Moore begins plunging he'll be going recurrent this week on BB and the following week on MB.
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Post by phil1996 on Aug 18, 2016 10:44:23 GMT -5
For someone who didn't have much momentum at all before this single, I'd say this was a decent success. Might have a bit of momentum now with a new single, which with the album due out in early 2017 could come real soon.
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Post by sabre14 on Aug 18, 2016 12:05:47 GMT -5
Still wishing they'd put out another single from this album (and they still may, but not so confident in that at this point). It just has so many other great songs on it that'll never see the light of day. They 100% did the same thing with "Up All Night" too. I don't know why Kip's team (sure, Kip too, but this one's mostly his team) feel the need to let go of these albums so soon. It's a tough spot for sure but the label sunk a massive amount of money into "Running For You" and "I'm To Blame" the past year and a half; sure a third single is unlikely to be released off Wild Ones but it takes a lot for a label to believe in an artist this much to promote two songs to radio for 18 months (the second being promoted for 10 months). I guess they could've pulled the plug on "Running For You" back when it was slugging through the 30's or 20's and put out another single but that probably would've yielded another 30's or 20's peak and both songs ("Running For You" and the third single) would've disappeared without many listeners realizing they were singles. Keeping "Running For You" alive this song and having it on the cusp of the top 10 exposes this song and Kip in general to a great deal of listeners with airplay this high and that's really what labels are sinking all their money into, in cases like "Running For You." Kip's momentum is not the same as it was during Up All Night but right now, MCA is doing all they can and what the think is best for Kip and his radio prospects.
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Post by sabre14 on Aug 19, 2016 12:12:16 GMT -5
Still wishing they'd put out another single from this album (and they still may, but not so confident in that at this point). It just has so many other great songs on it that'll never see the light of day. They 100% did the same thing with "Up All Night" too. I don't know why Kip's team (sure, Kip too, but this one's mostly his team) feel the need to let go of these albums so soon. "Running For You" is probably done now if today's update is any indication Kip lost 59 spins and 124k in audience. Assuming Kip Moore begins plunging he'll be going recurrent this week on BB and the following week on MB. "Running For You" is finished (losses of over 100 spins the past two days). It will go recurrent on Billboard this Monday but it won't go recurrent on Mediabase until September 4th, since Kip had his bullet on the August 14th finalized MB chart (peak of #11).
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Post by myeverything on Aug 19, 2016 18:21:04 GMT -5
I know we talk mostly about charts and radio success here, but there are a lot of other aspects included in "being an artist" - this is just one aspect of many and I think people tend to forget that sometimes. And I definitely don't consider Kip a "C-lister" artist by any means... minimal recent radio success or not.
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Post by onebuffalo on Aug 20, 2016 8:36:49 GMT -5
I know we talk mostly about charts and radio success here, but there are a lot of other aspects included in "being an artist" - this is just one aspect of many and I think people tend to forget that sometimes. And I definitely don't consider Kip a "C-lister" artist by any means... minimal recent radio success or not. Well, if Wild Ones contained three top tens like Up All Night, I would have moved Kip Moore to the b-list of country artists.
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Post by myeverything on Aug 22, 2016 13:55:13 GMT -5
But what I'm saying is that there is MORE to being an "A-lister," "B-lister," and "C-lister" artist besides JUST radio airplay/chart success. Just because Kip isn't putting out #1 after #1 right now, doesn't mean he isn't at a certain level or status.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 15:23:19 GMT -5
But what I'm saying is that there is MORE to being an "A-lister," "B-lister," and "C-lister" artist besides JUST radio airplay/chart success. Just because Kip isn't putting out #1 after #1 right now, doesn't mean he isn't at a certain level or status. But it's hard to argue since neither of his 2 singles off Wild Ones sold well at all. Yes he pulls in good concert numbers, but his last 4 singles haven't sold well at all and the album saw a real significant dropoff after its released. Everyone has different terms for what B lister and C lister means.
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Post by myeverything on Aug 23, 2016 9:17:27 GMT -5
But what I'm saying is that there is MORE to being an "A-lister," "B-lister," and "C-lister" artist besides JUST radio airplay/chart success. Just because Kip isn't putting out #1 after #1 right now, doesn't mean he isn't at a certain level or status. But it's hard to argue since neither of his 2 singles off Wild Ones sold well at all. Yes he pulls in good concert numbers, but his last 4 singles haven't sold well at all and the album saw a real significant dropoff after its released. Everyone has different terms for what B lister and C lister means. Yep - exactly, and thank the lord for that. And I'm not trying to "argue," unlike you. That's my whole point.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2016 9:20:38 GMT -5
But it's hard to argue since neither of his 2 singles off Wild Ones sold well at all. Yes he pulls in good concert numbers, but his last 4 singles haven't sold well at all and the album saw a real significant dropoff after its released. Everyone has different terms for what B lister and C lister means. Yep - exactly, and thank the lord for that. And I'm not trying to "argue," unlike you. That's my whole point. I wasn't trying to argue. I was just explaining why I don't think Kip Moore is that much of a B lister.
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Post by onebuffalo on Aug 23, 2016 10:17:31 GMT -5
But it's hard to argue since neither of his 2 singles off Wild Ones sold well at all. Yes he pulls in good concert numbers, but his last 4 singles haven't sold well at all and the album saw a real significant dropoff after its released. Everyone has different terms for what B lister and C lister means. Yep - exactly, and thank the lord for that. And I'm not trying to "argue," unlike you. That's my whole point. The tale of the tape. This is what Kip Moore's discography looks like since his first top ten. Ready? 1. Somethin' 'Bout A Truck-2012-#1-double platinum 2. Beer Money-2013-#3-gold 3. Hey Pretty Girl-2013-#2-platinum 4. Young Love-2014-#22 5. Dirt Road-2014-#44 6. I'm To Blame-2015-#20 7. Running For You-2016-#13 Despite the fact that the two Wild Ones singles made top twenty, they have not been certified at least gold at this time. The previous two singles (not even on an album) did not reach that plateau.
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Post by myeverything on Aug 24, 2016 9:10:55 GMT -5
...Didn't his first 3 singles all go to number one...
By the way.... new single next month and new album in March!!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2016 9:26:53 GMT -5
...Didn't his first 3 singles all go to number one... By the way.... new single next month and new album in March!!! Technically his 2nd through 4th singles went to #1 (only one on BB with that being "Something About A Truck" while "Beer Money" and "Hey Pretty Girl" were MB only #1s) but once again everyone forgets about in my opinion his best single "Mary Was The Marrying Kind" which will far and away will probably go down as my favorite Kip Moore song. The reason why its hard to argue Kip Moore as a b lister is he hasn't been in the Top 10 radio wise for 3 years now. That's a long time for an act. Their is also a boatload of artists competing for airplay and unless your a hyped up newcomer or a format star (or On the verge of being a star) your singles can just easily get lost in the shuffle and your back to square one. Kip Moore lucked out with how well "I'm To Blame" and "Running For You" did, especially since neither song sold really well at all. I hope Kip the best, but I wouldn't be shocked if the next leadoff single dies out in the 30s or something like that (since Kip Moore chart runs take forever I do think if they plan the album that far down the leadoff single will probably be Top 40 to Top 30ish).
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Post by phil1996 on Aug 24, 2016 9:36:49 GMT -5
He's performing on the Stephen Colbert show tonight. Interesting timing considering Running For You just peaked. Maybe a new single?
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Post by .indulgecountry on Aug 24, 2016 10:17:53 GMT -5
Kip Moore isn't a current A-lister, and that's really the only 'list' that you can safely place anybody on. Arguing in circles about whether he's a B-lister or a C-lister or w/e is irrelevant and arbitrary. The only question that you should ask yourself is "Is Artist X on the A-list?" and then if the answer is no, that's all there is to it. Either you're an A-lister (Jason, Blake, Luke, Carrie, etc.) or you're not: breaking it down into further categories is virtually impossible.
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Post by slowmo on Aug 24, 2016 10:49:28 GMT -5
He's performing on the Stephen Colbert show tonight. Interesting timing considering Running For You just peaked. Maybe a new single?
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