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Post by dm2081 on Mar 12, 2016 18:40:51 GMT -5
At this point I don't think a 4th single would be wise. They're clearly holding on to any momentum left very closely right now, and this will probably need 35 weeks minimum to peak. They should hit the studio and work on something new that will sound a little bigger for lack of better words. I don't see the point of pushing their luck, especially with all the big guns ready to come back to radio (Kenny, Blake, Jason, Jake Owen, etc.).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2016 18:43:37 GMT -5
Oh no a fourth single wouldn't be smart at all. But just imagining hearing "After The Storm Blows Through" on the radio possibly, just
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Post by godjanny on Mar 12, 2016 18:57:36 GMT -5
I don't like poo. There's too much poo in the video, but it's a good song. Oh yeah, and I don't like hornets either.
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Post by sabre14 on Mar 12, 2016 19:48:00 GMT -5
I don't see the point of pushing their luck, especially with all the big guns ready to come back to radio (Kenny, Blake, Jason, Jake Owen, etc.). I'm inclined to agree with you about a fourth single (although I do think we will see one) but I don't really understand this sentence? The big guns you mentioned should all have singles charting over the next 2 months or so and "Shut Up And Fish" will likely still be charting. The big guns will always be there. Artists like Maddie & Tae (which are most artists) take a while for their songs to climb the charts, so they're guaranteed to be competing with the A-list stars on the charts, at any given time. Kenny and Jason have spent some time away but they were there for "Fly" and "Girl In A Country Song." There's plenty to weigh when deciding on another single but being worried about bigger name artists having singles out to radio is not a big enough reason to factor in to the decision. This duo's next lead single will be leaped by the likes of new singles by Kenny, Blake and Jason -- there's just no way around that. The loss of momentum is founded in my eyes as well, if "Shut Up And Fish" should fail to out peak "Fly", but they're not worried about the return of Jason Aldean to Country radio in regards to their fourth single's chances.
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Post by dm2081 on Mar 12, 2016 20:13:24 GMT -5
I don't see the point of pushing their luck, especially with all the big guns ready to come back to radio (Kenny, Blake, Jason, Jake Owen, etc.). I'm inclined to agree with you about a fourth single (although I do think we will see one) but I don't really understand this sentence? The big guns you mentioned should all have singles charting over the next 2 months or so and "Shut Up And Fish" will likely still be charting. The big guns will always be there. Artists like Maddie & Tae (which are most artists) take a while for their songs to climb the charts, so they're guaranteed to be competing with the A-list stars on the charts, at any given time. Kenny and Jason have spent some time away but they were there for "Fly" and "Girl In A Country Song." There's plenty to weigh when deciding on another single but being worried about bigger name artists having singles out to radio is not a big enough reason to factor in to the decision. This duo's next lead single will be leaped by the likes of new singles by Kenny, Blake and Jason -- there's just no way around that. The loss of momentum is founded in my eyes as well, if "Shut Up And Fish" should fail to out peak "Fly", but they're not worried about the return of Jason Aldean to Country radio in regards to their fourth single's chances. Basically what I'm saying is these big stars will usher in lots of excitement (Miranda was another one I forgot about), and it's make it easier for smaller/newer artists to slip through the cracks. With their momentum winding down this era, I can't see a 4th single doing too well. If all of these big artists took a longer time off (or were about to when this single peaks), then maybe I could see the logic of trying a 4th single. It would have a chance to climb the charts a bit before it started getting jumped, instead of drowning out in the 40s like we see many songs do. Maybe I overstated the importance of other big stars on the radio, but I definitely think there's a minor influence there.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2016 20:21:23 GMT -5
I'm inclined to agree with you about a fourth single (although I do think we will see one) but I don't really understand this sentence? The big guns you mentioned should all have singles charting over the next 2 months or so and "Shut Up And Fish" will likely still be charting. The big guns will always be there. Artists like Maddie & Tae (which are most artists) take a while for their songs to climb the charts, so they're guaranteed to be competing with the A-list stars on the charts, at any given time. Kenny and Jason have spent some time away but they were there for "Fly" and "Girl In A Country Song." There's plenty to weigh when deciding on another single but being worried about bigger name artists having singles out to radio is not a big enough reason to factor in to the decision. This duo's next lead single will be leaped by the likes of new singles by Kenny, Blake and Jason -- there's just no way around that. The loss of momentum is founded in my eyes as well, if "Shut Up And Fish" should fail to out peak "Fly", but they're not worried about the return of Jason Aldean to Country radio in regards to their fourth single's chances. Basically what I'm saying is these big stars will usher in lots of excitement ( Miranda was another one I forgot about), and it's make it easier for smaller/newer artists to slip through the cracks. With their momentum winding down this era, I can't see a 4th single doing too well. If all of these big artists took a longer time off (or were about to when this single peaks), then maybe I could see the logic of trying a 4th single. It would have a chance to climb the charts a bit before it started getting jumped, instead of drowning out in the 40s like we see many songs do. Maybe I overstated the importance of other big stars on the radio, but I definitely think there's a minor influence there. Wow It's been a long time since Miranda has released a new song hasn't it. Does anyone have any news on a new single (sorry for de-railing the thread in advance but I'm growing impatient). Maddie & Tae do have a lot of goodwill with radio so a 4th song could do well enough, I think it all depends on if "Shut Up & Fish" can become a #1 song.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 12, 2016 21:02:34 GMT -5
I disagree that they should opt out of a fourth single. By the time this one peaks, it'll probably be a little before or right about where the album will be reaching the 1-year old mark and I doubt they have been working on new music or have intentions to seriously in the near future. It took forever for Start Here to get out there and I'd be a bit surprised if they moved on after "Shut Up and Fish" and even with their momentum waning, I think a fourth single could still certainly go at least Top 20 after this one hits (likely) a Top 10 peak at least, and do less harm than having a long break for them.
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Post by wonderstruck on Mar 12, 2016 21:19:41 GMT -5
I disagree that they should opt out of a fourth single. By the time this one peaks, it'll probably be a little before or right about where the album will be reaching the 1-year old mark and I doubt they have been working on new music or have intentions to seriously in the near future. It took forever for Start Here to get out there and I'd be a bit surprised if they moved on after "Shut Up and Fish" and even with their momentum waning, I think a fourth single could still certainly go at least Top 20 after this one hits (likely) a Top 10 peak at least, and do less harm than having a long break for them. They posted this 6 weeks ago. :) http://instagram.com/p/BBDbNtuIZhU
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 12, 2016 21:37:16 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing that, wonderstruck. Still, I'm sure it's very early in the process and it took them a long time to finish and release their debut album, so I'm not expecting their sophomore record to be coming out all that soon and I'd definitely like to see them release another single from their first project before moving on, especially if there's gonna be a bit of a gap. I'd hate to see them do a rush-job of a second album just to get it out there sooner.
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Post by someguy on Mar 12, 2016 22:56:43 GMT -5
I wish this was moving more quickly at radio. I thought it would fly up the charts, so I'm a little surprised at how slow the climb has been thus far. I still expect it to outpeak "Fly" (and hopefully challenge for #1), but I have to say I'm a little surprised at its radio performance.
I do expect a fourth single from them as well (assuming this makes the top 10). As much as I like some of the remaining uptempos ("Sierra" especially), something like "After The Storm Blows Through" or my personal favourite "Downside Of Growing Up" would be a nice change of pace for them.
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Post by zjames on Mar 12, 2016 23:06:41 GMT -5
If they do go for a fourth single (which I think they will), "No Place Like You" always struck me as a no-brainer if they want to go the safe route. But I'm all for "After The Storm Blows Through" getting released.
I'm also a little disappointed by "Shut Up And Fish"'s performance. I didn't expect it to fly up the charts, but I thought the sales would be better. I'll hope for sales to improve as the weather warms up, but I don't know how much that really makes a difference. I just hope for at least a chart performance on par with "Fly".
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Post by travelrocks24 on Mar 13, 2016 11:18:13 GMT -5
This song finally made the Sirius Highway countdown at #27 this week. I swear, this song has been out at least six months, Radio Disney Country has been playing it if that tells you anything. It's been out less than 4.5 months, but I agree - I thought this song was going to be HUGE. It still could be a decent sized hit, but not nearly as big as I was thinking/hoping. Wow.....felt much longer, Radio Disney Country premiered in mid November, so yeah, 4 1/2 months sounds about right. I think the title is pretty funny myself.
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Post by wonderstruck on Mar 13, 2016 15:32:00 GMT -5
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Post by M&TSwiftie on Mar 13, 2016 15:39:51 GMT -5
i think next should be "downside of growing up , no place like you, or after the storm blows through if that's the case
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 15:50:50 GMT -5
i think next should be "downside of growing up , no place like you, or after the storm blows through if that's the case I saw on Twitter, that Maddie said "Downside Of Growing Up" is her favorite on the album she replied to a fan on Twitter. I'm hoping it's either that or "After The Storm Blows Thru".
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 13, 2016 18:34:38 GMT -5
Really anything on the album could be a single besides "After the Storm Blows Through," which I'm sure they'd never even try with because it would bomb. I also personally don't quite get the appeal of that one... I think it may just be my least favorite on the record (it's definitely at least between that and "Right Here, Right Now." Neither do much for me).
"Downside of Growing Up" would be an interesting choice; I could see it doing alright and at least making the Top 20, which would be a good goal for them at that point. I'd personally rather see either "Waitin' on a Plane" or "No Place Like You" for the final single though, especially 'Plane.' They've said before that song would always get the best response when they used to play their music on street corners and it's another pretty catchy radio-friendly song. Plus, it'd just be glorious to hear that epic steel guitar instrumental bridge on the radio.
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Post by bigfan101 on Mar 13, 2016 20:02:47 GMT -5
I think after this (which I still think will be a top 10 or better), the choice should be No Place Like You. Although I LOVE Waitin On A Plane, After the Storm Blows Through and Downside, they are three songs in and haven't really released a relationship style song. No Place Like You is there most listened to song that hasn't been a single on Spotify and YouTube as well.
However, if Shut Up & Fish peaks around June, Downside might be an interesting play for graduation/wedding season.
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Post by M&TSwiftie on Mar 13, 2016 20:28:23 GMT -5
I think after this (which I still think will be a top 10 or better), the choice should be No Place Like You. Although I LOVE Waitin On A Plane, After the Storm Blows Through and Downside, they are three songs in and haven't really released a relationship style song. No Place Like You is there most listened to song that hasn't been a single on Spotify and YouTube as well. However, if Shut Up & Fish peaks around June, Downside might be an interesting play for graduation/wedding season. I think downside should be next especially with me graduating high school soon that song I have on repeat right now. It definitely would be perfect for the later time this year
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 20:30:54 GMT -5
I am here for "Downside of Growing Up" being the final single. Having it released closer to the graduation period in June could help it. As for "Shut Up and Fish", I hope it makes the top 10 at least. It's my favorite from them.
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Post by matty005 on Mar 13, 2016 20:33:56 GMT -5
I am here for "Downside of Growing Up" being the final single. Having it released closer to the graduation period in June could help it. As for "Shut Up and Fish", I hope it makes the top 10 at least. It's my favorite from them. If it was released in June, it may not peak until the class of 2017 is graduating.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 20:42:28 GMT -5
I am here for "Downside of Growing Up" being the final single. Having it released closer to the graduation period in June could help it. As for "Shut Up and Fish", I hope it makes the top 10 at least. It's my favorite from them. If it was released in June, it may not peak until the class of 2017 is graduating. True but if it was released say in late May, it might get a nice start on the charts.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 13, 2016 20:46:48 GMT -5
Yeah, the peak of this song would actually coincide with prime graduation/wedding season more so than their next single would, so I think that potential window of opportunity has closed. Now I do think "Downside of Growing Up" certainly has potential as a single, but it won't be because of the timing of its release (it would most likely be hitting its stride late this year/early 2017 if "Fish" indeed peaks this summer). If it was released in June, it may not peak until the class of 2017 is graduating. True but if it was released say in late May, it might get a nice start on the charts. This one will still be charting then (I'd wage a guess it'll be around the middle of the Top 20), unless the bottom completely falls out on this one in the next month, which I don't foresee happening.
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Post by Mr. Thonk Eyes on Mar 13, 2016 21:26:42 GMT -5
Unfortunately, "Shut Up and Fish" lost its bullet on Mediabase today. We'll see if M&T can turn back around and climb any higher, or if their song is truly done.
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Post by sabre14 on Mar 13, 2016 21:28:13 GMT -5
Unfortunately, "Shut Up and Fish" lost its bullet on Mediabase today. We'll see if M&T can turn back around and climb any higher, or if their song is truly done. Their still pushing it. Its not done.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 21:32:11 GMT -5
I'm just curious, does anyone know the research for this song. Is it testing well.
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Post by Mr. Thonk Eyes on Mar 13, 2016 21:33:01 GMT -5
Unfortunately, "Shut Up and Fish" lost its bullet on Mediabase today. We'll see if M&T can turn back around and climb any higher, or if their song is truly done. Their still pushing it. Its not done. I know that, but I think the negative bullet is a sign that radio isn't really interested in giving it more play, which is why I mentioned it. Then again, with how the country airplay charts have been working for a while now, "Shut Up and Fish" likely will continue to rise and my orginal post was just me over thinking things. *Shrug* EDIT: raylatch98 As for your question, according to this survey: www.mmr247.com/mmrweb/call/callout.asp?Sort=P&Archived=1&FORMAT=C1&SEX=3&AGE=3&GRC=C&TestDate=3%2F11%2F2016&newPage=Show+Report"Shut Up and Fish" is not testing well at all. 4th highest negative and 3rd lowest positive.
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Post by sabre14 on Mar 13, 2016 21:38:51 GMT -5
Their still pushing it. Its not done. I know that, but I think the negative bullet is a sign that radio isn't really interested in giving it more play, which is why I mentioned it. Then again, with how the country airplay charts have been working for a while now, "Shut Up and Fish" likely will continue to rise and my orginal post was just me over thinking things. *Shrugs* "Shut Up And Fish" gained 1.4 million in Mediabase audience last week. One bad week is not a big enough sample size to determine a song has stalled out (radio unwillingness to give it heavier rotation). If this song continues to have modest gains the next 2-3 weeks, then yes, radio has likely decided it has gone about as far as it'll allow (see the chart run of "Real Life" or "Freestyle" as prime examples of that scenario). I understand the frustrations with not only this song, but others who are having some tough troubles lately but Country radio is a marathon, not a sprint. The new releases from Blake, Luke and Eric aren't helping either. I don't think this will be a huge hit or anything but just some patience to see what will ultimately happen with this one.
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Post by someguy on Mar 15, 2016 9:17:30 GMT -5
This had another rough update today. I don't think that the song can afford too many more of them. I'll be shocked if this ends up missing the top 20, but who knows at this point.
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Post by mus1cr0w on Mar 20, 2016 14:18:40 GMT -5
This one is getting pounded. Any chance it goes recurrent?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2016 14:23:53 GMT -5
This one is getting pounded. Any chance it goes recurrent? MR Not this week since its under 20 weeks, however Maddie & Tae have to re-bullet next week or otherwise they'll go recurrent on BB and MB. Here's how I would have done the singie releases 1. Girl In A Country Song 2. Sierra (sorry Fly was a mistake and I feel like Sierra would've kept people interested) 3. Downside Of Growing Up 4. Shut Up & Fish
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