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Post by Tylerjamesnerd on Dec 1, 2015 20:06:14 GMT -5
This song recently clicked with me and now I love it. I'm not to fond of the music video, but she is GORGOUS >>>
I hope this continues success for her, as I think it will.
I really want her to release something surprising next, like Choctaw County Affair, though that might put her at a bad spot with radio.
(I like the Sam Hunt Background.)
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Post by 14887fan on Dec 1, 2015 20:13:12 GMT -5
I don't think anything she releases from this album will put her at a bad spot with Country radio. Even the purely pop songs, "Chaser" and "Relapse", are on the same level as "See You Again", and that went #1 on MB.
Having said that, "Dirty Laundry" and 'Choctaw' are obvious single choices (and if they want a pop-friendly hit like something along the lines of "Good Girl" for the spring/summer, they'll come to their senses and put "Relapse" out there [*continues to beat the dead horse*]). But... "Wine After Whiskey", "Do You Think About Me", "What Can I Say?", "Someday When I Stop Loving You", and "I Know You Won't" were also all obvious single choices, too, so take all of that as you wish.
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Post by countrygirl918 on Dec 2, 2015 0:02:17 GMT -5
This era just feels really boring/underwhelming so far. "Smoke Break" and "Heartbeat" are nice songs, but they're not particularly exciting songs (at least to me). They're just kind of... there.
Hopefully singles 3 and 4 pack more of a punch.
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Post by Massikur2 on Dec 2, 2015 0:25:35 GMT -5
It seems to me that Carrie's team has a tendency to pick some of the weaker songs off her albums as singles. In my mind, this trend began with "So Small," and continues through this era in her career. This is particularly problematic because the songs impacting radio don't represent the extent of her catalog or her overall artistry; to a casual listener, she's sassy, overly-sentimental, or a storyteller. However, those familiar with her unreleased tracks have a greater understanding of her aesthetic, and it does vary from the Carrie Underwood you hear on the radio.
That being said, while I agree that "Smoke Break" was a poor choice, I stand behind the decision to release "Heartbeat." It's not spectacularly well-written, but the arrangement and her vocal interpretation are very engaging. Upon first listen, I didn't care for it much, but it's definitely grown on me and I've come to understand its potential as a radio favorite and sales-driver. The preceding single was one of the weakest tracks on the album, so I expect better things ahead. There are some great tracks to choose from ("Dirty Laundry," "Choctaw County Affair," "Chaser," "Relapse"), but remember to give Carrie's co-writes an edge when trying to predict what their next move will be, as they historically have favored her original material.
I think the most glaring single error of the Carnival Ride era was "Flat on the Floor." "I Know You Won't" was repetitive and far too bombastic for radio; it grows old after a few listens.
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Post by bboat11 on Dec 2, 2015 1:17:40 GMT -5
I think the most glaring single error of the Carnival Ride era was "Flat on the Floor." "I Know You Won't" was repetitive and far too bombastic for radio; it grows old after a few listens. For me the glaring omission was "Get Out Of This Town". That song gets stuck in my head all the time, and I love it! I also happened to like "Flat On The Floor", but I feel like it would have been polarizing for listeners who are not fans of her sassy uptempos. I see that one rubbing people the same way that "Undo It" did. In other words, it still would have been a huge hit ;) But maybe not super well-remembered by casual fans. Also, I totally agree with you on "I Know You Won't"... As for your point about Carrie's singles not representing the scope of her career, and that people don't really get to see every aspect of her as an artist unless they listen to her albums, I had never really considered that before! Interesting thoughts indeed... We'll have to see how this album era goes after "Heartbeat". I actually foresee her releasing "Renegade Runaway", which I think a lot of people around here will be upset by because it means Pulse-praised tracks like "Church Bells", "Dirty Laundry", "Choctaw County Affair", "Relapse", and "Chaser" will probably all remain album cuts except for one (or two if we are lucky) of them... Which fits perfectly with the idea that you just proposed.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Dec 2, 2015 1:56:37 GMT -5
Video was a bit uneventful, but I definitely thought it had promise. I loved the gold dress and the wooded setting with the fireflies, but it just... needed more to it to make it more interesting. I think maybe a costume change into a red dress and a different backdrop would've helped, and there definitely should've been a lead actor for her to work off or at least another young couple of actors cast to act out some of the lyrics. Still better and more visually appealing than many of the run-of-the-mill male music videos in the genre though.
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Post by Massikur2 on Dec 2, 2015 2:12:52 GMT -5
I think the most glaring single error of the Carnival Ride era was "Flat on the Floor." "I Know You Won't" was repetitive and far too bombastic for radio; it grows old after a few listens. For me the glaring omission was "Get Out Of This Town". That song gets stuck in my head all the time, and I love it! I also happened to like "Flat On The Floor", but I feel like it would have been polarizing for listeners who are not fans of her sassy uptempos. I see that one rubbing people the same way that "Undo It" did. In other words, it still would have been a huge hit ;) But maybe not super well-remembered by casual fans. Also, I totally agree with you on "I Know You Won't"... As for your point about Carrie's singles not representing the scope of her career, and that people don't really get to see every aspect of her as an artist unless they listen to her albums, I had never really considered that before! Interesting thoughts indeed... We'll have to see how this album era goes after "Heartbeat". I actually foresee her releasing "Renegade Runaway", which I think a lot of people around here will be upset by because it means Pulse-praised tracks like "Church Bells", "Dirty Laundry", "Choctaw County Affair", "Relapse", and "Chaser" will probably all remain album cuts except for one (or two if we are lucky) of them... Which fits perfectly with the idea that you just proposed. "Get Out of This Town" was another missed opportunity. Fantastic song, well-written, and a stellar vocal performance to boot. It's always disappointing for me to think about great tracks like that which remain confined to the album, eventually shuffled into the discography as 'just another song' and rarely performed live. Unfortunately, that happens to some of Carrie's best songs--especially the high points of Some Hearts that didn't make the cut at radio. While "Renegade Runaway" has grown on me slightly, I still can't throw support behind it. As far as the 'storytelling' theme is concerned, the narrative is incredibly bland and focuses on description rather than action. We know plenty about the female antagonist, but neither she or the boy make any moves throughout the song. It's not really a story without a course of events or some kind of action taking place. In that way, it's similar to "Cowboy Casanova" and "Good Girl," but with less interesting lyrics (at least for my sensibilities). Melodically, however, it's more appealing than both.
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Post by desertfloods on Dec 2, 2015 3:25:12 GMT -5
The video is up on youtube
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 2, 2015 8:51:52 GMT -5
I think the most glaring single error of the Carnival Ride era was "Flat on the Floor." "I Know You Won't" was repetitive and far too bombastic for radio; it grows old after a few listens. For me the glaring omission was "Get Out Of This Town". That song gets stuck in my head all the time, and I love it! I also happened to like "Flat On The Floor", but I feel like it would have been polarizing for listeners who are not fans of her sassy uptempos. I see that one rubbing people the same way that "Undo It" did. In other words, it still would have been a huge hit ;) But maybe not super well-remembered by casual fans. Also, I totally agree with you on "I Know You Won't"... I think "polarizing" gets a bad rep by people. Why does it matter if something is polarizing? Usually that means for the people who love it, they really love it. Something that is more generally liked (i.e. safe) might have more fans overall, but it doesn't usually have passionate fans. Polarizing songs tend to be ones that are make a true impact (see Girl Crush, The Night the Lights Went Out in Georgia, Save A Horse, etc). I definitely think Carrie's team has been too safe with their singles choices over the years.
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Post by sgtoddball on Dec 2, 2015 12:58:52 GMT -5
This era just feels really boring/underwhelming so far. "Smoke Break" and "Heartbeat" are nice songs, but they're not particularly exciting songs (at least to me). They're just kind of... there. Hopefully singles 3 and 4 pack more of a punch. I agree with you. I know the majority will not agree but I don't think there is a single game-changing song on the entire Album. I have heard all the praise for CCA. I agree it's a solid song but in my mind it still doesn't pack the punch that BHC, BA, JTTW had. Those in my opinion are her signature, career defining songs and nothing on this Album is going to take the place or even add to those and become a signature song. I think DL, and CB are solid as well but while they sound different sonically, they are still thematically to much of the same.
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Post by Massikur2 on Dec 2, 2015 13:10:16 GMT -5
This era just feels really boring/underwhelming so far. "Smoke Break" and "Heartbeat" are nice songs, but they're not particularly exciting songs (at least to me). They're just kind of... there. Hopefully singles 3 and 4 pack more of a punch. I agree with you. I know the majority will not agree but I don't think there is a single game-changing song on the entire Album. I have heard all the praise for CCA. I agree it's a solid song but in my mind it still doesn't pack the punch that BHC, BA, JTTW had. Those in my opinion are her signature, career defining songs and nothing on this Album is going to take the place or even add to those and become a signature song. I think DL, and CB are solid as well but while they sound different sonically, they are still thematically to much of the same. "Choctaw County Affair" is one of the most well-written, engaging songs Carrie has recorded to date. Lyrically, it surpasses both "Before He Cheats" and "Jesus, Take the Wheel," but is firmly rooted in the tradition of storytelling, which may limit a listener's emotional response because it isn't wholly relatable. The aforementioned tracks deal with themes of revenge and faith, something that can more easily connect with a wider audience. When I first heard "CCA," I was reminded of Bobbi Gentry/Reba's "The Night the Lights When Out in Georgia," which is an incredible song that draws the listener in purely through narrative. Because Carrie favors strong narrative pieces, she shines on this track. It is the album's "game-changing" song.
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Post by brinkeronline on Dec 2, 2015 13:30:13 GMT -5
Maybe Sony is starting this era off with more laid back singles to help even out the sales throughout the year? The first few weeks were going to be promoted more heavily anyway, so put the more 'exciting' singles at the back end to boost sales into later 2016?
Maybe I'm just making up reasons that the first two single are less epic.
Just a note: I love Heartbeat!
I want Church Bells on the radio SO BAD!
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Post by sgtoddball on Dec 2, 2015 14:35:49 GMT -5
I agree with you. I know the majority will not agree but I don't think there is a single game-changing song on the entire Album. I have heard all the praise for CCA. I agree it's a solid song but in my mind it still doesn't pack the punch that BHC, BA, JTTW had. Those in my opinion are her signature, career defining songs and nothing on this Album is going to take the place or even add to those and become a signature song. I think DL, and CB are solid as well but while they sound different sonically, they are still thematically to much of the same. "Choctaw County Affair" is one of the most well-written, engaging songs Carrie has recorded to date. Lyrically, it surpasses both "Before He Cheats" and "Jesus, Take the Wheel," but is firmly rooted in the tradition of storytelling, which may limit a listener's emotional response because it isn't wholly relatable. The aforementioned tracks deal with themes of revenge and faith, something that can more easily connect with a wider audience. When I first heard "CCA," I was reminded of Bobbi Gentry/Reba's "The Night the Lights When Out in Georgia," which is an incredible song that draws the listener in purely through narrative. Because Carrie favors strong narrative pieces, she shines on this track. It is the album's "game-changing" song. I agree it's a well written song. Is it a game-changing song that will define her career like the others I mentioned? I don't think so. It's just my opinion though. Very rarely do Artists ever have a song out-do the one/ones that made them a household name. While I believe CCA is the gem on this Album, I don't believe it's Carrie Underwood's Career Defining song.
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Post by Massikur2 on Dec 2, 2015 14:36:45 GMT -5
During the Carnival Ride era, that idea was heavily suggested after "So Small" was released. While not an awful song by any means, there were stronger songs on the album that could have certainly been better lead singles. The prevailing notion was that Carrie was so successful coming off of Some Hearts that radio would openly receive whatever she sent their way, and listeners would head out in droves to buy the album (which was correct, as CR's first-week sales were the best of her career). By virtue of such, they didn't need to release a strong single because the interest from all pertinent parties was already there.
Eight years later, I think they could be utilizing this (implied) strategy again. Carrie doesn't need to campaign for spins at country radio; she's one of few darlings that benefit from heavy airplay. She has a strong fanbase that will purchase whatever she puts out, so long as her material remains proportionate to her talent. Following the massively well-received singles from Blown Away and the greatest hits collection, she's in a position where she can maintain radio's attention by releasing songs that exceed the predecessors in quality. I think things will be just fine.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Dec 2, 2015 15:26:47 GMT -5
I'm all for setting a high standard, but the way terms like "game-changing" and "career-defining" are being thrown around here has me simultaneously thinking about unreasonably high expectations and about whether we so take what Carrie and the songwriters who have written for/with her have done for granted that we think it's normal to measure her album success by whether it includes a "game changer" and a "career definer." Let's not forget that many would argue that "Something in the Water" joined Carrie's set of "career definers" just last year. Lucky artists get one career-defining smash. In Carrie's case, we're talking three, maybe four career-definers from four studio albums plus a greatest hits set, and I'm excluding Carrie's performance of "How Great Thou Art" with Vince Gill. Storyteller will not be anything approaching a failure if it doesn't generate a "game changer" or a "career definer." This is not me writing off the possibility that "Choctaw County Affair" could be such a thing, because it very well may be my favorite thing Carrie's ever done. I have no idea how it would impact if given a chance as a single, but I don't think it makes sense to hang the "game changer"/"career definer" albatross around its neck right now, whether for purposes of hype or anti-hype. In the Listening Party thread for Storyteller, a few people talked about Storyteller being their favorite Carrie album with the possible exception of Carnival Ride. I bring that up because Carnival Ride was a really big success critically, commercially and in terms of industry acclaim without generating a career-defining/game-changing single ("I Told You So" was an important moment, but perhaps not defining). Without writing off the possibility of a future Storyteller single joining Carrie's list of signature songs, I think that Storyteller is a deep enough album to do the same.
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Post by sgtoddball on Dec 2, 2015 16:11:04 GMT -5
I think Carrie's own fans create those expectations whether fair or not. All you have to do is follow twitter and this board to get that impression. Not to derail this single thread further, I think this is a nice change of pace for Carrie and will sound pleasant on radio this time of year.
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Dec 3, 2015 16:32:00 GMT -5
The video really disappointed me, I was expecting better. However, this should easily make the top 3 on Country Airplay.
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Post by Massikur2 on Dec 4, 2015 23:59:36 GMT -5
I think the music video is fine. Truth be told, I'm far more concerned with the quality of music Carrie produces and the thoughtfulness she puts into her live performances. Having purchased every single thing she's released since her American Idol days with good faith that her albums and assorted singles will deliver (and all but one has), she could completely cease filming videos and I wouldn't notice.
It took me over a year to watch the videos for "Blown Away," "Two Black Cadillacs," and "See You Again." I watched them in succession, in fact. Conversely, I've purchased each of her albums on the days they were released, typically on the strength of a single song (which half the time, I didn't like very much in comparison to the rest of the album). With all due respect to Carrie and her team, she'll never release something iconic like Michael Jackson's "Thriller." And who has, really? Think about it.
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 5, 2015 0:10:05 GMT -5
With all due respect to Carrie and her team, she'll never release something iconic like Michael Jackson's "Thriller." And who has, really? Think about it. Did someone mention "Thriller" and I missed it? It just seems like a random statement otherwise. I don't think anyone expects Carrie or another artist to have a "Thriller" moment. Having said that, though, videos are still an important part of promotion in music. Music videos still get millions of views (and some hundreds of millions and even billions) and help songs not only on the charts because those views count for the charts, but they give the song and artist exposure. It's fine if you don't pay much attention to videos, but that doesn't mean videos are meaningless. And Carrie never having a video with the impact of "Thriller" doesn't mean she shouldn't make videos. Carrie probably won't ever have a song that has the global impact of, say, "I Will Always Love You," but that doesn't mean she should stop recording songs.
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Post by Massikur2 on Dec 5, 2015 0:23:38 GMT -5
With all due respect to Carrie and her team, she'll never release something iconic like Michael Jackson's "Thriller." And who has, really? Think about it. Did someone mention "Thriller" and I missed it? It just seems like a random statement otherwise. I don't think anyone expects Carrie or another artist to have a "Thriller" moment. Having said that, though, videos are still an important part of promotion in music. Music videos still get millions of views (and some hundreds of millions and even billions) and help songs not only on the charts because those views count for the charts, but they give the song and artist exposure. It's fine if you don't pay much attention to videos, but that doesn't mean videos are meaningless. And Carrie never having a video with the impact of "Thriller" doesn't mean she shouldn't make videos. Carrie probably won't ever have a song that has the global impact of, say, "I Will Always Love You," but that doesn't mean she should stop recording songs. You know who brought up "Thriller?" I did. Because it's relevant when discussing impactful music videos because it's the premier music video. The statement I made about her ceasing to making videos was clearly hyperbolic; that's not an expectation, nor should she by any means. What I'm explaining is that there's very little need to form odd attachments to a music video--she has so many, in five years this one will be lost in the shuffle along with the rest. Fans aren't going to be deterred by a "disappointing" video, and it's not like country radio will stop playing the single because a few people on a message board arbitrarily assert that it's not up to snuff. It's a music video. In a few months, she'll release another. Content is what's important, and luckily Storyteller is a solid collection. Run along now before I use the 'L' word on you.
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Post by bboat11 on Dec 5, 2015 2:08:07 GMT -5
I think the music video is fine. Truth be told, I'm far more concerned with the quality of music Carrie produces and the thoughtfulness she puts into her live performances. Having purchased every single thing she's released since her American Idol days with good faith that her albums and assorted singles will deliver (and all but one has), she could completely cease filming videos and I wouldn't notice.
It took me over a year to watch the videos for "Blown Away," "Two Black Cadillacs," and "See You Again." I watched them in succession, in fact. Conversely, I've purchased each of her albums on the days they were released, typically on the strength of a single song (which half the time, I didn't like very much in comparison to the rest of the album). With all due respect to Carrie and her team, she'll never release something iconic like Michael Jackson's "Thriller." And who has, really? Think about it. Jenglisbe, I think you missed the point of Massikur's post. She never once said that videos are "meaningless", just that as an individual they do not matter as much to her as purchasing albums and singles. She says Carrie COULD stop releasing videos and she would not notice, which is a perfectly valid personal statement telling us how she tends to consume her music. Such a statement is not worth questioning as if she is wrong, because it is completely based on individual preference. And in such a statement, there was never once any sort of suggestion that Carrie SHOULD stop releasing music videos... Massikur is not attempting to speak for anyone else... Accordingly, what she says should not be refuted as if she is somehow trying to make some wild claim that nobody on Earth ever watches Carrie's music videos. Also, there was never any sort of insinuation that Carrie should stop recording songs. To bring that up is to prove that you completely blew Massikur's post out of proportion, whether that was intentional or unintentional. You are reacting as if Massikur is trashing on Carrie, when all she did was express that she personally does not watch music videos very much. Anybody who has read any posts on the last couple of pages would know that trashing on Carrie is the last thing Massikur is about to do... Now, I just want to say, personally I find it aggravating that this thread continues to be derailed by silly things like being hypercritical of individual statements that people make about their personal opinions. This is the exact same sort of situation as the "literally" argument from a few days ago. Singling individuals out and taking their opinions out of context is at the roots a form of bullying, and it should definitely be considered trolling. This is supposed to be a welcome place, and nobody should feel as if they cannot tell us that they care about purchasing music more than they care about watching music videos because their personal preference is going to be misconstrued and shot down. And I can guarantee that I am not the only one who shares that opinion. tl;dr - I just don't like the hypercritical negativity that is happening a lot around here. It is a waste of everyone's time. Now, this thread is for talking about "Heartbeat". Not dissecting whether someone is wrong because they don't care whether the song has a good video or not. Let's keep it that way, please!
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Post by .indulgecountry on Dec 5, 2015 3:37:48 GMT -5
The statement I made about her ceasing to making videos was clearly hyperbolic Was it literally hyperbolic though?
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Post by elementd5 on Dec 5, 2015 7:22:08 GMT -5
But the music video is content, too. It's a visual representation of Carrie and her music. And I agree, it's a pretty bland music video. As a fan of the song, I was disappointed by it, because it had so much potential to be better. As a fan of Carrie, it makes me ponder "why would she put out such a horrible video? Maybe music videos, or at least this one, didn't matter to her either, cause she surely had time (budget?) to make a better one." But to each his/her own.
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Post by 14887fan on Dec 5, 2015 9:33:46 GMT -5
I think they're using "Heartbeat"'s crossover appeal as a way of selling her and her image to international markets. She just got back from her third visit to London within 3 months, and she performed at both the Apple Music Festival and The X Factor, both of which are huge performance slots for any artist over there. So, maybe they were thinking "minimalist video with pretty images and Carrie looking pretty and the background images being pretty and everything is pretty" in exchange for more focus on pushing her image and sound to new audiences.
Idk. Trying to make sense of a bland video, but I've quickly snapped into my senses and realized that it's not the end of the world, and Sony will surely get this the #2 peak it deserves.
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Post by Future Captain on Dec 5, 2015 9:51:54 GMT -5
Meh, the video could've been better. LTG's MV is a nice one, but SB and now this one is totally bland.
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Post by krud489 on Dec 5, 2015 14:00:27 GMT -5
This will easily go Top 5 and hopefully all the way to #1. The question will be which labelmates will she be sacrificed for this time around? Will they stall the natural climb when she blasts into the Top 10? As a Carrie fan, I'm proud of her chart history. Its truly remarkable, but could be even better if it wasn't for Sony's bad decisions
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Post by Massikur2 on Dec 5, 2015 19:16:11 GMT -5
Very general question: when did such overt chart manipulation begin? I don't recall this being a major factor during the Some Hearts, Carnival Ride, and Play On eras. Admittedly, I am rather out of the loop concerning the charts and am getting back into it, but I definitely don't recall having such discussions five-six years ago and earlier.
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Post by bboat11 on Dec 5, 2015 19:23:21 GMT -5
Very general question: when did such overt chart manipulation begin? I don't recall this being a major factor during the Some Hearts, Carnival Ride, and Play On eras. Admittedly, I am rather out of the loop concerning the charts and am getting back into it, but I definitely don't recall having such discussions five-six years ago and earlier. I don't know much about the charts myself other than from what I have read around here. But I do know that one of the first blatant examples of manipulation was Reba hitting #1 with "Somebody" back in 2004. But otherwise, I do not remember it being a regular thing until about 2012 or so, around the time of George's big 60-for-60 push to get "Give It All We Got Tonight" to #1 by his 60th birthday. I remember at that time it was starting to become common enough that nobody was surprised, but I do not remember it being so blatant that almost every song is getting manipulated like it is today. However, like I said, other people will be able to tell you more specifics than I can!
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Post by Massikur2 on Dec 5, 2015 19:35:27 GMT -5
Very general question: when did such overt chart manipulation begin? I don't recall this being a major factor during the Some Hearts, Carnival Ride, and Play On eras. Admittedly, I am rather out of the loop concerning the charts and am getting back into it, but I definitely don't recall having such discussions five-six years ago and earlier. I don't know much about the charts myself other than from what I have read around here. But I do know that one of the first blatant examples of manipulation was Reba hitting #1 with "Somebody" back in 2004. But otherwise, I do not remember it being a regular thing until about 2012 or so, around the time of George's big 60-for-60 push to get "Give It All We Got Tonight" to #1 by his 60th birthday. I remember at that time it was starting to become common enough that nobody was surprised, but I do not remember it being so blatant that almost every song is getting manipulated like it is today. However, like I said, other people will be able to tell you more specifics than I can! That sheds some light on the issue. I do recall that people were up-in-arms when Garth Brooks debuted at #1 with "More than a Memory" in 2008, and chart manipulation was not only suspected, but practically self-evident. I just don't remember it being an issue in connection with Carrie.
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Post by sabre14 on Dec 5, 2015 20:12:40 GMT -5
Chart manipulation has been around for years with labels and country radio but it really didn't become a huge issue until the past 5-6 years or so. Billboard changed its Hot Country Songs chart rule to only audience, instead of spins, because of MCA/UMG making a mockery out of the chart to force Reba to #1 in the summer of 2004. "Somebody" was a Billboard only #1, as it did not hit #1 on Radio & Records.
10-15 years ago, you would regularly see 3-4-5-6 week #1 singles, as many songs had to settle for #2-#5 peaks. In 2005 for example, there were only 19 #1 singles on Billboard and 22 on both R&R and Billboard. Compare that to 2015, where we've seen 35 #1 Billboard singles so far and 45 overall...and the year isn't even over yet!
Manipulation has been around for quite some time but it has gotten out of hand the past few years. Unfortunately country radio goes right along with it as they do not care in any sort of "integrity" with the charts and are fine with helping out their friends at these labels and promotion departments.
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