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Post by onebuffalo on Dec 6, 2015 14:45:59 GMT -5
I loved 1986. 52 weeks and 51 #1s.
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Post by sabre14 on Dec 6, 2015 22:00:34 GMT -5
"Heartbeat" makes its top 50 MB debut this week, at #40
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Post by Massikur2 on Dec 7, 2015 0:16:26 GMT -5
Pretty good first-week showing!
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Post by sabre14 on Dec 7, 2015 0:21:12 GMT -5
Pretty good first-week showing! It's first official week was this past week (on Billboard) as it debuted at #41 on the Airplay chart. It should be at least 6-8 spots higher on Billboard Airplay tomorrow evening, than it is this week on Mediabase (#40). Usually it takes a couple weeks for Mediabase's points system to catch up to Billboard's audience.
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Post by Massikur2 on Dec 7, 2015 0:48:16 GMT -5
Pretty good first-week showing! It's first official week was this past week (on Billboard) as it debuted at #41 on the Airplay chart. It should be at least 6-8 spots higher on Billboard Airplay tomorrow evening, than it is this week on Mediabase (#40). Usually it takes a couple weeks for Mediabase's points system to catch up to Billboard's audience. Ah, I see. Well, it's still doing pretty well in my book! I'm sure this one will have no trouble making the top three, hopefully getting in a BB #1.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Dec 7, 2015 11:44:25 GMT -5
I'm tired of being confident about her singles getting that BB #1 at this point, because it should've happened with like at least 3 of the last 5 singles, but I know either way this one is going Top 3 because it's Carrie Underwood and I feel like this'll just be a big hit regardless. I see this one connecting more than "Smoke Break," at least.
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 7, 2015 15:22:22 GMT -5
The statement I made about her ceasing to making videos was clearly hyperbolic Was it literally hyperbolic though? I find it interesting that bboat11 liked this, yet said he/she didn't want things that derail the thread. Why didn't you have a problem with this off topic post? Hypocritical much?
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Post by carriekins on Dec 7, 2015 15:38:56 GMT -5
Was it literally hyperbolic though? I find it interesting that bboat11 liked this, yet said he/she didn't want things that derail the thread. Why didn't you have a problem with this off topic post? Hypocritical much? Because it was funny? Good grief. Calling people out like that isn't particularly funny, though, and could have been done in a PM so as not make other people feel uncomfortable. Just saying. How about no more further derailment?
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Dec 7, 2015 15:40:12 GMT -5
Was it literally hyperbolic though? I find it interesting that bboat11 liked this, yet said he/she didn't want things that derail the thread. Why didn't you have a problem with this off topic post? Hypocritical much? Because that post was fairly obviously intended as a one-off and light-hearted joking reference to something that had taken place earlier in the thread, whereas the original objection was to the lengthier derailments that take place when a person repeatedly misconstrues posts based on semantics and then digs in his or her heels with multiple off-topic posts defending the misconstructions even after the original intent of the posts has been explained. Enough is enough. I'm about at the end of my willingness to treat people here like adults and trust them to work out little spats on their own without staff intervention. So I would strongly advise you to focus any and all subsequent comments on the topic named in the title thread instead of policing fellow posters' behavior.
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Post by sabre14 on Dec 7, 2015 22:09:42 GMT -5
Sony Nashville's Executive VP/Artist Development, Steve Hodges, talked with Billboard about his time so far with Sony Nashville since being hired earlier this year. During the interview, he discussed Carrie Underwood and the potential of doing a "surprise album release" along with how many singles we will get from Storyteller.
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Post by Massikur2 on Dec 7, 2015 23:02:09 GMT -5
Sony Nashville's Executive VP/Artist Development, Steve Hodges, talked with Billboard about his time so far with Sony Nashville since being hired earlier this year. During the interview, he discussed Carrie Underwood and the potential of doing a "surprise album release" along with how many singles we will get from Storyteller. Sweet baby Jesus, I hope that's a very strong "or more!"
Let me have a go at managing Carrie's career. She'd hit #1 with each single and album release, and everyone would be happy.
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Post by onebuffalo on Dec 8, 2015 12:36:24 GMT -5
If they go five deep, Carrie Underwood's next album won't be released until 2017. I will say, from Heartbeat to whatever the fifth single is had better be promoted the right way. I do not want to see Underwood sacrificed so her other labelmates can enjoy #1s.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Dec 8, 2015 12:41:13 GMT -5
She's definitely at a point in her career where they simply cannot plan years in advance. She has a kid who she will inevitably need to be home more for, and she will probably have another kid or two down the road. So I think planning for more singles than usual is a great strategy to cater to this change. They can't rely on Carrie to have albums out every 2.5-3 years, so it makes sense that they'd buy her an extra year or so with one or two more singles than usual.
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Post by ant on Dec 8, 2015 13:08:58 GMT -5
If they go five deep, Carrie Underwood's next album won't be released until 2017. I will say, from Heartbeat to whatever the fifth single is had better be promoted the right way. I do not want to see Underwood sacrificed so her other labelmates can enjoy #1s. Considering we are on the 2nd single, "4 or more" would mean this album could potentially have 6-7+ singles. I wouldn't expect more than 7 though. Luke's last album had 7, and since Carrie is a bigger star I feel like she deserves the same treatment. This could also mean that "Relapse" has more of a chance of a single release!
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Post by onebuffalo on Dec 8, 2015 13:16:12 GMT -5
If they go five deep, Carrie Underwood's next album won't be released until 2017. I will say, from Heartbeat to whatever the fifth single is had better be promoted the right way. I do not want to see Underwood sacrificed so her other labelmates can enjoy #1s. Considering we are on the 2nd single, "4 or more" would mean this album could potentially have 6-7+ singles. I wouldn't expect more than 7 though. Luke's last album had 7, and since Carrie is a bigger star I feel like she deserves the same treatment. This could also mean that "Relapse" has more of a chance of a single release! The only Arista album that seen six singles was Alan Jackson's Everything I Love. Carrie Underwood has not seen a sixth single release yet. That may change due to the reception of Storyteller.
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Post by dm2081 on Dec 8, 2015 13:35:31 GMT -5
If they go five deep, Carrie Underwood's next album won't be released until 2017. I will say, from Heartbeat to whatever the fifth single is had better be promoted the right way. I do not want to see Underwood sacrificed so her other labelmates can enjoy #1s. Considering we are on the 2nd single, "4 or more" would mean this album could potentially have 6-7+ singles. I wouldn't expect more than 7 though. Luke's last album had 7, and since Carrie is a bigger star I feel like she deserves the same treatment. This could also mean that "Relapse" has more of a chance of a single release! Luke's last album had 6 singles. Carrie is certainly not a bigger star at radio at the moment either.
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Post by Massikur2 on Dec 8, 2015 15:11:22 GMT -5
Considering we are on the 2nd single, "4 or more" would mean this album could potentially have 6-7+ singles. I wouldn't expect more than 7 though. Luke's last album had 7, and since Carrie is a bigger star I feel like she deserves the same treatment. This could also mean that "Relapse" has more of a chance of a single release! Luke's last album had 6 singles. Carrie is certainly not a bigger star at radio at the moment either. If Carrie had the 'benefit' of being born male, they'd be on equal footing. There's a clear gender bias; rest assured it's not the quality of content.
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Post by matty005 on Dec 8, 2015 15:41:52 GMT -5
Luke's last album had 6 singles. Carrie is certainly not a bigger star at radio at the moment either. If Carrie had the 'benefit' of being born male, they'd be on equal footing. There's a clear gender bias; rest assured it's not the quality of content. The born male argument is not even an argument. It's a ridiculous statement. There is a gender bias in country radio. Luckily for us Carrie fans, she's immune to it.
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Post by sbp17 on Dec 8, 2015 16:13:33 GMT -5
There is a gender bias in country radio. Luckily for us Carrie fans, she's immune to it. Being successful in the face of a bias does not mean one is immune to it. I'm not getting into the debate over whether Luke or Carrie is more successful and to what extent a gender bias plays into that but Carrie is not immune to the gender bias at country radio.
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Post by matty005 on Dec 8, 2015 16:26:23 GMT -5
There is a gender bias in country radio. Luckily for us Carrie fans, she's immune to it. Being successful in the face of a bias does not mean one is immune to it. I'm not getting into the debate over whether Luke or Carrie is more successful and to what extent a gender bias plays into that but Carrie is not immune to the gender bias at country radio. She's not immune to it? She is probably the most successful artist on country radio in the last 10 years. She doesn't have a song that misses the top 3. No artist has that kind of success for as long as Carrie has. In fact, is it even close? I get people bitching and moaning about Carrie not winning awards, but complaining about Carrie on country radio is ludicrous.
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Post by dm2081 on Dec 8, 2015 16:53:11 GMT -5
Luke's last album had 6 singles. Carrie is certainly not a bigger star at radio at the moment either. If Carrie had the 'benefit' of being born male, they'd be on equal footing. There's a clear gender bias; rest assured it's not the quality of content. I could also make an argument that if Luke had been on American Idol he would be even bigger. Nobody is denying Carrie is a legend, but at the moment radio is more infatuated with Luke Bryan than any other artist, and its not even really debatable.
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Post by 14887fan on Dec 8, 2015 19:56:50 GMT -5
A few things... -Radio is not at fault for any gender bias in CU's career. Any mishaps that happened, as we've seen with her last 5 singles, were by the hands of her label. As Matt said, she has the strongest airplay streak out of any artist this century, in both Country and probably across other formats, too. -Luke Bryan is currently the biggest star of the format. That's not up for debate. Underwood is the biggest female. That's not up for debate, either. Both of their sales are huge; overall, they absolutely cream the rest of their peers in that department. What currently puts Bryan above Underwood is his touring numbers, as well as his appeal to the female crowd. -Underwood being born male or Bryan being born female or Underwood or Bryan transitioning wouldn't make anything different. The gender biases at Country radio just don't apply to these two. Underwood is the *only* woman in Country music today that has never had to worry about underperforming at radio. Not even Miranda Lambert can say the same anymore. -Luke Bryan wouldn't make the Top 12 of American Idol.
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Post by countrygirl918 on Dec 8, 2015 20:57:45 GMT -5
I'm not believing this album is getting more than 4 singles until it happens. It seemed obvious that Blown Away would get a 5th single and that didn't happen, so despite what her label says now I am going to wait and see before I get excited.
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Post by Massikur2 on Dec 8, 2015 21:57:07 GMT -5
I'm realizing there are some interpretive issues on this message board. The "'benefit' of being born male" statement was indicative of something else--essentially, I was saying that if she were male, gender would not play into the equation as strongly. Nothing about "transitioning" or anything silly like that.
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Post by popbox on Dec 8, 2015 22:00:42 GMT -5
Every single one of her albums has warranted more than 5 releases, and they've yet to go more than 4 except once. So I don't see how it gets anymore than 5. All of Blown Away could've been released to success and we'd still be in that era.
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Post by Massikur2 on Dec 8, 2015 22:18:42 GMT -5
My list of dream singles for the Storyteller era:
"Relapse" "Dirty Laundry" "Choctaw County Affair"
Alternatives to any of those: "Chaser" "Church Bells"
Although part of me has the sinking feeling that they'll try to release "What I Never Knew I Always Wanted" at some point because it was one of the pre-release tracks. While I enjoy it and really appreciate the production and vocals, I don't think it's well-suited for radio. Moreover, the lyrics are rather bland--more so than "Heartbeat," even (I can get past generic imagery, but the 'hole/soul' rhyme makes me cringe). The strength of the track is Carrie's obvious emotional attachment, which guides an otherwise unremarkable song towards being a bit more memorable.
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Post by desertfloods on Dec 8, 2015 22:18:42 GMT -5
Well, now that I consider the possibility that we won't get the next album within the usual timeframe, I hope the reason they release two non hard-hitting singles back to back is because they plan to have more singles this era. So they are saving the smashes to carry the album sales through a longer period. Or maybe I am just talking gibberish. A few things... - Radio is not at fault for any gender bias in CU's career. Any mishaps that happened, as we've seen with her last 5 singles, were by the hands of her label. As Matt said, she has the strongest airplay streak out of any artist this century, in both Country and probably across other formats, too. -Luke Bryan is currently the biggest star of the format. That's not up for debate. Underwood is the biggest female. That's not up for debate, either. Both of their sales are huge; overall, they absolutely cream the rest of their peers in that department. What currently puts Bryan above Underwood is his touring numbers, as well as his appeal to the female crowd. -Underwood being born male or Bryan being born female or Underwood or Bryan transitioning wouldn't make anything different. The gender biases at Country radio just don't apply to these two. Underwood is the *only* woman in Country music today that has never had to worry about underperforming at radio. Not even Miranda Lambert can say the same anymore. -Luke Bryan wouldn't make the Top 12 of American Idol. That is all. #TRUTH
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Post by Massikur2 on Dec 8, 2015 22:20:53 GMT -5
I think it's fairly obvious that her career will be a bit different now that she's a mother and has more personal obligations, so it would make sense that the lull between albums be longer as well. I'm a bit surprised she's doing such an extensive tour--it's quite ambitious and shows her priorities of not only representing the album well, but also keeping herself relevant until she can begin crafting the next album. We'll see what the next few years bring.
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Post by bboat11 on Dec 8, 2015 22:47:17 GMT -5
I honestly don't believe that Carrie needs to take any "longer" to make an album now that she is a mother. I will use Martina as an example ("Of course he will," they all say). She has 3 kids, and it has always been super clear where her priorities lie (mother first, career second). Yet she has had new music out basically every 2 years for the last 23 years. Of course, the difference is that Martina started having kids earlier than Carrie, so she has built her career around them, whereas Carrie became a global superstar first. But the point is, it is possible for a female musician to maintain a career and a family at the same time. Many do it and are still quite successful.
Recording albums is the easy part if you have young children; you just spend little chunks of time in the studio every few days, and you should easily be able to get an album out in 2 years. The hard part is touring in support of those albums... I could definitely understand if Carrie scaled back on the touring in the near future. But I sincerely hope we don't have to wait longer for new music every time now... I mean, we already had to wait 3+ years the last time; how can it get any longer than that??!!
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Post by Massikur2 on Dec 8, 2015 22:51:49 GMT -5
But I sincerely hope we don't have to wait longer for new music every time now... I mean, we already had to wait 3+ years the last time; how can it get any longer than that??!! We've been waiting for Faith to release an album of new material for TEN YEARS! It can get much worse.
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