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Post by Libra on Jan 31, 2016 0:02:27 GMT -5
I thought Codex was a comparison cop when Kunt revealed what his role was because of the whole voting for Cynthia and Zebra. I thought he compared both and the response indicated the two weren't aligned, therefore one must be scum. I don't get why he kept going back to Zebra. Clearly we didn't want to find out either. :) I caught this, conversely Max caught on to you having a protective role, Kunt.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2016 0:03:17 GMT -5
lmao I swear pop is using every picture EXCEPT the picture that is in my pm box just to fuck with me. (no it's not a nude pic but why did I not win most likely to receive his nudes again?)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2016 0:04:32 GMT -5
I thought Codex was a comparison cop when Kunt revealed what his role was because of the whole voting for Cynthia and Zebra. I thought he compared both and the response indicated the two weren't aligned, therefore one must be scum. I don't get why he kept going back to Zebra. Clearly we didn't want to find out either. :) I caught this, conversely Max caught on to you having a protective role, Kunt. So I read, which I was hoping y'all wouldn't but that was an excellent read on Max's part to do so. I know someone was role blocking me by Zebra's death, but I assumed strongman when Codex died.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jan 31, 2016 0:04:47 GMT -5
I know Kunt and Cynthia are humble and don't think they're as good as we make them out to be but let's be real, we all agree they're two of the most observant players in this game. If I could successfully pull the wool over both their eyes for this long, I'd be beaming with pride. Yeah. Just hand that MVP over here pls.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2016 0:06:14 GMT -5
Stacey played a great first game by the way. Really strong, although it is a fault of town's for not pressuring you.
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Post by bigfan101 on Jan 31, 2016 0:07:49 GMT -5
Ahhh, oops.
My bad all. Second consecutive game I have caused the final lynch for mafia to win. Maybe I should stick to the green room.
And I switched to Cynthia, when it was clear the vote wasn't gonna go to Max. Kunt might have switched but who was gonna be the fourth?
And I voted because I missed that everyone has unvoted so it must be okay.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jan 31, 2016 0:08:03 GMT -5
Stacey played a great first game by the way. Really strong, although it is a fault of town's for not pressuring you. Yeah, he really did. We were concerned that everyone kept pointing out the coaching theory because we legit weren't. I think it was you who said the things he was pointing out couldn't really be taught so that definitely helped. lol
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Post by Libra on Jan 31, 2016 0:08:33 GMT -5
But also yes me going in on Cynthia is what sent us on a downward spiral so I'm not MVP here. no one is MVP. not for town anyway; we were all awful (except for Az and Liucci, who were not even around for longer than a day and thus did not get an opportunity to f**k up). for scum, I guess Stacey just for playing so well to be first-time scum. It's hard to give out MVP for mafia since they literally just had to ride out town being stupid. we even fell into the Libra lynch by accident tbh. i know for me just the fact that i didn't read back singlehandedly killed me; my attention span and available time were both woefully short. but i was hoping that my flip would force the remaining town players to reevaluate everything they thought about the game - if you spent the whole time thinking i was scum and then you see i'm wrong, what else might you be wrong about? unfortunately that did not pan out. I would definitely say that our win was a team effort. I left Max + Stacey plenty to work with when I exited and laid out a cover for said exit...but the fact is, I still exited. I didn't handle the transition back to scum-play the best, and it became noticeable. So they had to carry the rest. Despite a good number of tells, they did. :) Oh, and yeah Town's ineptitude played a part as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2016 0:09:14 GMT -5
Yeah, no one should blame bigfan for not moving back to Cynthia. Cynthia wouldn't have voted for him and Surf was MIA. It was really Cynthia or bust that day.
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Post by popstop on Jan 31, 2016 0:10:14 GMT -5
I felt like Max left a number of clues and enough that he did get some heat, but not enough. Even if Max had been lynched, I'm not sure Stacey would have been caught.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jan 31, 2016 0:12:42 GMT -5
I felt like Max left a number of clues and enough that he did get some heat, but not enough. Even if Max had been lynched, I'm not sure Stacey would have been caught. I expected to be the next lynched so when that happened, Stacey would have went into Day 5 with bigfan and surf, in hopes that one of them would target the other and Stacey would just hammer. There was a backup. And #yes @ Libra. You guys were a great scum team!
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Post by bigfan101 on Jan 31, 2016 0:13:05 GMT -5
Also, I am completely frustrated with this game. Everytime I have played I have been town, but every time on day one I have fought for my life even though I have played differently each time. Any suggestions for the future?
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Post by popstop on Jan 31, 2016 0:16:49 GMT -5
lmao I swear pop is using every picture EXCEPT the picture that is in my pm box just to f**k with me. (no it's not a nude pic but why did I not win most likely to receive his nudes again?) Hehe, well josh was on that PM too. :)
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jan 31, 2016 0:17:09 GMT -5
From the green room: @jb23241 said: " 1). Why would Kunt, as a town member, dare bring up something like Codex being a cop unless he's a doctor and has the ability to protect him?" That's what gave it away for me. Well, that's what made me think he likely had something to protect Codex with, otherwise he wouldn't have brought it up. Az Paynter: " Wait. Max made a BIG slip-up. He quotes a Liucci post and says "The Hammer falls, Mikey is out, Twilight is in effect."
Liucci didn't hammer. STACEY DID. Kunt has no excuse for not picking this up because he was on me for putting Mikey at L-1. He's probably put that thought out of his head since I was NK'd but if he sticks with it and double-checks to see that Stacey hammered Mikey then Max should get caught out in his lie." That was meant to be a chronological story depicting Liucci's comments before (his vote on Mikey) and after the hammer because I was trying to draw attention to his comment about hoping Mikey wasn't a power role despite being one of the last to vote for him. lol. popstop: " Whatever. Max is all about showing his ass.
Mafia Slut is perfect for him. :kii:" :kii:
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Post by Libra on Jan 31, 2016 0:18:00 GMT -5
Also, I am completely frustrated with this game. Everytime I have played I have been town, but every time on day one I have fought for my life even though I have played differently each time. Any suggestions for the future? It's continually a learning process. You'll have to dig through the Green Room to find it, but it was noted how your reads of Max and Stacey were right, you just weren't convincing enough. That does not mean staying stubborn - but if it seems like no one's even paying attention, restate your case.
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Post by popstop on Jan 31, 2016 0:30:32 GMT -5
My other advice would be to go through some previous Mafia (they really are entertaining) and read it without looking at the green room so you can kind of try to guess what some tells are.
You actually had better instincts than most of town, bigfan. But you didn't have a lot of conviction.
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Post by bigfan101 on Jan 31, 2016 0:34:19 GMT -5
Also, I am completely frustrated with this game. Everytime I have played I have been town, but every time on day one I have fought for my life even though I have played differently each time. Any suggestions for the future? It's continually a learning process. You'll have to dig through the Green Room to find it, but it was noted how your reads of Max and Stacey were right, you just weren't convincing enough. That does not mean staying stubborn - but if it seems like no one's even paying attention, restate your case. It seems like I need to learn how to type better and find a way for people to believe me. As people have said, my instincts have been right several times in the past two games but I am always fighting early so then I'm on the defensive and I feel like no one believes me. My reasoning or something, but like with the Stacey vote. No one would believe me and then people were later using it to say I was scum. Then with the Max vote, I couldn't get enough votes and I knew a no-lynch wasn't good. So I went through what I thought was best. But then the new day came, and I f-d up. For that my bad.
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Post by bigfan101 on Jan 31, 2016 0:36:01 GMT -5
My other advice would be to go through some previous Mafia (they really are entertaining) and read it without looking at the green room so you can kind of try to guess what some tells are. You actually had better instincts than most of town, bigfan. But you didn't have a lot of conviction. Yeah, I just wanted someone to say oh yeah that could be it, but instead every idea was not good enough or not feasibile, so I felt like there was nothing I could do. I was never going to get the votes for Stacey on D2 or Max on D3.
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Post by surfy on Jan 31, 2016 0:36:36 GMT -5
Man... my thought process was really on point just before the quick lynch. Fuuuuuck. I didn't think Kunt was necessarily scum, but I did think it was planned that he remain in and that it was noticed that Zebra was booted rather than town's biggest help.
I also kept wondering why Mike kept asking about D1 Liucci. I probably should've caught up on that sooner.
I figured one of bigfan/stacey was scum, but after posting that first one, I realized that bigfan would've been the single worst scum teammate if that was true, hence me switching to suspecting Stacey.
(Also, IDK how I didn't pick up we were in LYLO)
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jan 31, 2016 0:44:53 GMT -5
Why does Az think I played so terribly? lmao! I'm noticing a few slip-ups now from reading the green room but the way Az is talking, I shouldn't have even played at all I was so terrible. Ok. lol
And Surf, I kept asking about Liucci because it was the only thing I really had to grab ahold of that I thought could be seen as legitimately questionable, but I also knew nobody else would really jump on your bandwagon so I figured you'd be kept around and serve as my own distraction while everyone else was looking elsewhere. lol. sorry.
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Post by popstop on Jan 31, 2016 0:46:53 GMT -5
Yeah but see that was an example of something we thought was odd that should have been pointed out. Libra was at L-1, and here you are saying oh hey - look at SURF without even addressing the L-1 situation.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2016 0:49:17 GMT -5
Oh yeah, I was so in a rush to off myself on D3 that I didn't even point this out, but the reason I unvoted for myself briefly was b/c I wanted to see what scum would do when they realized that both Zebra and I were at L-2. I kind of figured they were trying to hold off on being the hammer, but also that given two options they would rather see me gone than Zebra. Of course it was also obvious at this point that I was likely going to self-hammer if put back at L-1, so whoever did so would hopefully stand out. I wish I had used the twilight time to explain my thought process there (and for that matter, pay attention to who was the person to do it) because it would have immediately pointed back to Stacey - he was the hammer three days in a row, essentially, and that should have jumped out at people. Also, I am completely frustrated with this game. Everytime I have played I have been town, but every time on day one I have fought for my life even though I have played differently each time. Any suggestions for the future? 1. No more "purposely empty posts" thing because it's just too easy for people to think it's a scum tell and for actual scum to hide behind it. 2. Be more authoritative/aggressive when voicing your thoughts and don't cave in so easily to what another player with a loud voice is saying. Oddly enough in the green room everyone noted that you probably had the best instincts of anyone in the game, but that you were being ignored because you didn't get your thoughts out very well. Coco felt you and Surf are kind of wishy-washy and too easy to sway and I think this perception also leads to you being kind of glossed over instead of being taken seriously. 3. Don't beat yourself up over the final vote too badly because the other two town players made the exact same mistake and there was no way for you to know that wasn't okay. But for future games always be aware of numbers and when town is possibly reaching LYLO or MYLO territory. In those situations you should never vote immediately because scum will jump on a wrong vote as soon as possible. I'm genuinely surprised that Kunt made such a blunder b/c he is usually the type to know better. 3a. With that point in mind if you're in a game where someone else makes that mistake, it more than likely points to them being an absent-minded town. Shout at them to unvote ASAP.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jan 31, 2016 0:50:56 GMT -5
Yeah but see that was an example of something we thought was odd that should have been pointed out. Libra was at L-1, and here you are saying oh hey - look at SURF without even addressing the L-1 situation. Yeah, that's definitely funny to read about from an outside perspective. I think my point was that we hadn't considered everything yet because one person has gone completely unquestioned, but yeah, that definitely should have been questioned at the start of the next day. popstopWow! I meant to ensure all the actions were sent in earlier the night before because I was curious to see if you would have started the next day shortly after, thereby suggesting there may not be any more power roles. Of course, I always waited until the last minute... That's why sticking to schedules can be important. The Green Room is more entertaining than the game lol Az PaynterYeah, ok. That's easy to say when you know all the information and have hindsight to back you up.
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Post by popstop on Jan 31, 2016 1:33:04 GMT -5
Well, I didn't start the time deliberately to throw you off. But I know it was awhile after everyone had submitted and the first moment I had, so I was hoping it would throw you two off.
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Post by Libra on Jan 31, 2016 1:38:48 GMT -5
Well, I didn't start the time deliberately to throw you off. But I know it was awhile after everyone had submitted and the first moment I had, so I was hoping it would throw you two off. The bias is/was real! (2). And Devil Marlena Nylund note the gif I replied to Az with. ;)
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jan 31, 2016 1:42:07 GMT -5
Well, I didn't start the time deliberately to throw you off. But I know it was awhile after everyone had submitted and the first moment I had, so I was hoping it would throw you two off. The bias is/was real! (2). And Devil Marlena Nylund note the gif I replied to Az with. ;) lmao! yas bittach!
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Post by KanenrΓ‘:ke on Jan 31, 2016 2:16:36 GMT -5
My body aches with pain but my mind is soothed from the delicious delicious victory!
Seriously this fucking sickness sucks but I just read the green room and I'm so happy in my mind!
Also can't sleep. :(
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Post by Albie on Jan 31, 2016 7:19:52 GMT -5
Omg not again! LYLO bigfan LYLO! Oh well.
I was really hoping town could get on the same page given time but you guys seemed checked out at this point.
Congrats scum!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2016 7:55:39 GMT -5
Gah! How frustrating it is to root on town, lol.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2016 8:35:38 GMT -5
Yay, mafia deserved to win given how poorly town played
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