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Post by Elusive Chanteuse on Sept 7, 2016 17:22:06 GMT -5
I know I might've repeated this several times but what Black River really should do (along push for 2 weeks at #1) is to work this over to HAC. They seriously cannot not see the potential for this to crossover. Peter Pan is one of the biggest Country female hits in awhile, and needless to say, and it's also very Pop. So what are they waiting for? It's clear as a sunny day, tbh.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Sept 7, 2016 17:57:46 GMT -5
I know I might've repeated this several times but what Black River really should do (along push for 2 weeks at #1) is to work this over to HAC. They seriously cannot not see the potential for this to crossover. Peter Pan is one of the biggest Country female hits in awhile, and needless to say, and it's also very Pop. So what are they waiting for? It's clear as a sunny day, tbh. The only issue is that they'll have to partner with a promotional team or major label that works songs to HAC since Black River is an independent that only has ties to country radio. It's not impossible to strike up a deal like this (Big Machine has done this for Taylor and TBP), but it's definitely harder to get this idea rolling than if it were say Carrie Underwood and Sony NY could just promote it instead of Sony Nashville. I do hope this happens though as I agree this could be a big multi-format hit.
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Post by robenglund on Sept 7, 2016 19:01:13 GMT -5
I have no idea where she is in her next album process. Is she just gathering songs or is she recording? Kelsea started recording for her sophomore album in July. Ah okay. I guess it makes sense to release "Yeah Boy" then since she just started recording and doesn't have enough songs to choose what the lead single will be.
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 7, 2016 19:21:05 GMT -5
Kelsea started recording for her sophomore album in July. Ah okay. I guess it makes sense to release "Yeah Boy" then since she just started recording and doesn't have enough songs to choose what the lead single will be. Or they could've survived off recurrent play from "Peter Pan" -- have the duet with Jason Aldean be the bridge when that is released to radio at the end of the year (according to a good source from Windmills) -- and come back with a lead single in early 2017. I too see why they feel the need to go with one more single, though. Kelsea's red hot with radio and the song is another safe, fluffy choice for programmers.
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Post by robenglund on Sept 7, 2016 19:35:03 GMT -5
Ah okay. I guess it makes sense to release "Yeah Boy" then since she just started recording and doesn't have enough songs to choose what the lead single will be. Or they could've survived off recurrent play from "Peter Pan" -- have the duet with Jason Aldean be the bridge when that is released to radio at the end of the year (according to a good source from Windmills) -- and come back with a lead single in early 2017. I too see why they feel the need to go with one more single, though. Kelsea's red hot with radio and the song is another safe, fluffy choice for programmers. Your first paragraph/sentence... I completely agree. I saw the Tweet from Windmills as well. Since she's hot with programmers, it's a win-win scenario. She can't lose. If "Yeah Boy" doesn't do well, then she still is on the radio with a current single a la "First Time Again". Since it's Jason Aldean, "First Time Again" will certainly be a huge hit. If "Yeah Boy" does well, then she still has "First Time Again".
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Post by .indulgecountry on Sept 7, 2016 20:38:44 GMT -5
I just realized that her duet with Jason Aldean is "First Time Again" and her debut album was The First Time. It would be kinda funny if they re-issued the album as The First Time Again and threw that song on there as a bonus track, lol.
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Post by Spidey on Sept 9, 2016 17:33:43 GMT -5
This song currently has 8,957 spins on Mediabase. What is the highest spin peak on country radio?
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 9, 2016 17:40:33 GMT -5
This song currently has 8,957 spins on Mediabase. What is the highest spin peak on country radio? I believe it's "Somewhere On A Beach" with 8975 spins on an official published chart; 9108 as the record on any given day.
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Post by hosssulpizio on Sept 9, 2016 17:45:52 GMT -5
I'm wondering if that "Graveyard" song from RaeLynn's debut album is the same one that Kelsea will be incuding on her sophomore album.
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Post by onebuffalo on Sept 10, 2016 9:18:53 GMT -5
Another 9000 spins artist:
2 1 KELSEA BALLERINI Peter Pan 9026 8472 554 61.494
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Post by bigfan101 on Sept 10, 2016 9:20:03 GMT -5
This is gonna have to have a serious spin loss to lose out on week 2. She is 1500 spins ahead of Dierks right now.
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 10, 2016 12:17:17 GMT -5
This song currently has 8,957 spins on Mediabase. What is the highest spin peak on country radio? I believe it's "Somewhere On A Beach" with 8975 spins on an official published chart; 9108 as the record on any given day.Want to correct this. The record for a published chart is 9053 for "Snapback" (didn't reach #1). The record for a #1 song is 9014 by "Somewhere On A Beach." The 9108 is still the single say record ("Somewhere On A Beach'). Kelsea sits at 9026 spins today. If she increases at least 28 spins tomorrow, she'll have the record for spins on a published Mediabase chart.
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Post by Mr. Thonk Eyes on Sept 10, 2016 12:19:37 GMT -5
This is gonna have to have a serious spin loss to lose out on week 2. She is 1500 spins ahead of Dierks right now. That might be how it would've worked out in the old days 10-12 years ago, but in today's climate, a push for Dierks along with Kelsea's label pulling promotion would probably be enough to give him the top spot. Not saying Black River will pull promotion after this week, bit it is possible. I'm with those who want to see this get a second week though.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Sept 10, 2016 12:56:38 GMT -5
Black River could definitely keep her losses down enough to secure a second week (she obviously won't still be gaining, ofc.), because Dierks is still pretty far back and there's no reason to expect radio to start dropping this one the way they did "Dibs" after it hit #1 because this one is just a huge smash, so I can see it having a much slower loss of spins... especially if her label puts in the work on keeping that a minimum.
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Post by cufan7 on Sept 11, 2016 1:54:18 GMT -5
How are callouts on this one?
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Post by austin on Sept 11, 2016 9:11:05 GMT -5
I am so happy this was such a mega hit. It was one of the 3 or 4 best singles sent to radio this year, and performed as such. Nice to see a great song do as well as it should have.
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Post by josh on Sept 11, 2016 10:46:57 GMT -5
Anyone have a link to video of Kelsea performing Brown Eyes Blue at ACM honors? Can't find it on YouTube. Thanks.
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 11, 2016 10:52:25 GMT -5
How are callouts on this one? Does it really matter now? lol It went #1. :) It tested okay to decently on Mediabase's callout but pretty poorly on Bullseye.
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Post by cufan7 on Sept 11, 2016 11:18:58 GMT -5
How are callouts on this one? Does it really matter now? lol It went #1. :) It tested okay to decently on Mediabase's callout but pretty poorly on Bullseye. Doesn't really matter - just curious how the average listener at radio liked this song as I was never confident it would be received well. So glad it got #1. Easily one of the best songs this year.
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Post by travelrocks24 on Sept 12, 2016 5:36:20 GMT -5
I am glad this went to #1, it seems hardly any solo female artists make it to #1 now a days.
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Post by onebuffalo on Sept 12, 2016 10:04:13 GMT -5
Final MediaBase numbers: 2 1 KELSEA BALLERINI Peter Pan 9040 8561 479 61.607 I was right about the September part. I was wrong about the 30 week part. Peter Pan, #1 in its 26th week on the chart: A four week improvement in getting Dibs to top the chart. Dibs did so in 34 weeks whereas Love Me Like You Mean It took 38 weeks. Peter Pan should take 30 weeks, hitting the top (hopefully) in September.
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Post by fridayteenage on Sept 12, 2016 11:29:31 GMT -5
I am glad this went to #1, it seems hardly any solo female artists make it to #1 now a days. I know this site doesn't like the chart, but it looks poised to be the 4th female-led song to top Hot Country Songs since the rule change in 2012, after a Taylor a Miranda and a Carrie.
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Post by onebuffalo on Sept 12, 2016 11:45:17 GMT -5
I am glad this went to #1, it seems hardly any solo female artists make it to #1 now a days. I know this site doesn't like the chart, but it looks poised to be the 4th female-led song to top Hot Country Songs since the rule change in 2012, after a Taylor a Miranda and a Carrie. I hope you're right. Before tonight's chart comes out, here's a comparison between Peter Pan and H.O.L.Y.: Hot Country Songs: H.O.L.Y.-#1 Peter Pan-#2 Airplay: H.O.L.Y.-recurrent Peter Pan-#2 Sales: H.O.L.Y.-#5 Peter Pan-#8 Streaming: H.O.L.Y.-#1 Peter Pan-#2
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Post by onebuffalo on Sept 12, 2016 12:00:00 GMT -5
Kelsea has about a 5k advantage in sales and about double the airplay. Sales-wise, H.O.L.Y. is doing better than Peter Pan. Florida Georgia Line sold 19,000 last week, pushing total sales to 1.5 million. Kelsea Ballerini moved 17,000 and has 432,000 in total sales. Of course, she is cleaning up on the airplay chart. She has 48 million in audience impressions while they have 22 million.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2016 12:25:43 GMT -5
This is gonna have to have a serious spin loss to lose out on week 2. She is 1500 spins ahead of Dierks right now. Yeah, but there was a swing of more than 250 spins between them today alone, and Kelsea's losses are likely to be bigger as the week progresses, whereas Dierks' gains will probably grow. You do the math...7 days with a swing of at least 250 spins per day would mean Dierks would gain 1750 spins on Kelsea...which means he's already on pace to finish ahead of her (spins-wise, at least). The audience swing between the two of them in today's update was over 1.6 million (Kelsea lost 875k, Dierks gained just over 800k). That puts Dierks on pace to gain more than 11 million on Kelsea, and right now he trails her by by only 8.4 mil on Mediabase. Of course, it's dangerous to project things based on only one day of data, but again, typically songs that have peaked will lose more per day on Thursdays, Fridays, Saturdays, etc. than they do on Mondays, and Kelsea already saw a pretty big drop today. Black River could definitely keep her losses down enough to secure a second week (she obviously won't still be gaining, ofc.), because Dierks is still pretty far back and there's no reason to expect radio to start dropping this one the way they did "Dibs" after it hit #1 because this one is just a huge smash, so I can see it having a much slower loss of spins... especially if her label puts in the work on keeping that a minimum. This certainly won't fall as fast as "Dibs", but as I noted above, it's already falling fast enough that I'm doubting its chances of a 2nd week on top, especially given that Capitol made it clear they'd be pushing for #1 this week for "Different For Girls", which, IMO, has been on par with "Peter Pan" as far as big hits go. But I was never among those of you who thought this would get 2 weeks at #1 anyway... I don't think this will get 2 weeks at #1. ;) I think Dierks will pass Kelsea sometime over the weekend, in time to be #1 on Sunday's Mediabase chart and #1 on next week Monday's Billboard chart. I'd like it for "Peter Pan" to stay on top (I don't care for DFG) but I just don't think it's gonna happen.
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Post by sabre14 on Sept 12, 2016 12:31:30 GMT -5
I don't think radio stations were all that enthusiastic about "Peter Pan" staying near 9000 spins airplay levels for another week anyway. It's tough for a female artist with a song that's been in heavy rotation for the past few weeks to stay at that airplay again, for a second week, and I'm sure radio made it known they wanted it to be a one week and finished type of deal (the most common, lol). Capitol requested max spins last week and even though they were far behind, they were gunning to be #1 by the 18th/19th.
Kelsea has made it publicly known to stations that "Yeah Boy" will be on their desk shortly, so it looks like the plan was 1 week at #1 from the start.
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Post by straitouttanashville on Sept 12, 2016 13:36:00 GMT -5
If/when "Peter Pan" hits #1 on Billboard won't this be the 1st time in chart history a female artist has 3 straight #1's to start her career that were all written by that female artist, in this case Kelsea? I believe I read that somewhere, if thats is in fact true that is a huge deal, giving that she is technically an independent artist.
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Post by onebuffalo on Sept 12, 2016 13:43:38 GMT -5
If/when "Peter Pan" hits #1 on Billboard won't this be the 1st time in chart history a female artist has 3 straight #1's to start her career that were all written by that female artist, in this case Kelsea? I believe I read that somewhere, if thats is in fact true that is a huge deal, giving that she is technically an independent artist. Good catch. Seeing since ALL songs were written or co-written by Kelsea Ballerini, she is certainly making a lot of history here. Take that, Taylor Swift.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Sept 12, 2016 14:22:56 GMT -5
If/when "Peter Pan" hits #1 on Billboard won't this be the 1st time in chart history a female artist has 3 straight #1's to start her career that were all written by that female artist, in this case Kelsea? I believe I read that somewhere, if thats is in fact true that is a huge deal, giving that she is technically an independent artist. Yep. The only other woman to start her (solo) career with 3 #1s is Wynonna Judd, and she didn't have any co-writing credits on any of her's. I wish this one could've gotten a second week at the top because this is definitely a huge hit, but everything about Kelsea's trajectory thus far is monumental so I can certainly live with it. I'm so happy she's had such great success so far. :)
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Post by fridayteenage on Sept 12, 2016 18:42:16 GMT -5
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