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Post by tae04 on May 24, 2016 12:48:26 GMT -5
Cute song but Alicia's glory days are behind her. I think she can still have another hit though, but it'll have to be an amazing song.
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Post by music89 on May 24, 2016 13:42:17 GMT -5
I expected Urban to be slow to warm up to any new AK song that doesn't have a popular of the moment artist feature on it. When was the last time she had a top 10 airplay single on Urban Mainstream? Was it Unthinkable? Where did GOF peak in terms of Urban mainstream airplay? All those Mother other/Poppy-like songs AND her supposed home wrecker scandal did her a disservice to that format and audience. She's basically a new artist to them. She will have to work really hard to win back Urban. I think this song will end up being a hit (not sure how massive yet), but it's going to take a while. So she may not want to launch the album for another 8-10 weeks, lol. I think Fire We Make did good too. @aliciakeys is the first artist in the billboard Adult R&B chart's history to tally 10 No. 1s with "Fire We Make." btw she lost some "fans" when she released that wack song that is Girl On Fire. I prefer having a good song even if it flops instead of a bad single that becomes a hit tho.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 14:17:23 GMT -5
"Fire We Make" went to #1 at Urban AC but wasn't an Urban hit.
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Post by #LisaRinna on May 24, 2016 16:10:42 GMT -5
Up 38-32 on R&B/Hip-Hop Airplay.
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Post by cjay on May 24, 2016 16:49:25 GMT -5
I expected Urban to be slow to warm up to any new AK song that doesn't have a popular of the moment artist feature on it. When was the last time she had a top 10 airplay single on Urban Mainstream? Was it Unthinkable? Where did GOF peak in terms of Urban mainstream airplay? All those Mother other/Poppy-like songs AND her supposed home wrecker scandal did her a disservice to that format and audience. She's basically a new artist to them. She will have to work really hard to win back Urban. I think this song will end up being a hit (not sure how massive yet), but it's going to take a while. So she may not want to launch the album for another 8-10 weeks, lol. I think Fire We Make did good too. @aliciakeys is the first artist in the billboard Adult R&B chart's history to tally 10 No. 1s with "Fire We Make." btw she lost some "fans" when she released that wack song that is Girl On Fire. I prefer having a good song even if it flops instead of a bad single that becomes a hit tho. I've heard a few people say she lost fans with the "Wack" GOF song. I assuming Urban thought it was wack because pop seemed to like it enough. The song sold 3 million in the US and did fairly well worldwide. So I'm sure that confused Alicia and RCA. Personally, I thought she lost more respect from the SUPPOSED home wrecker scandal.
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Post by SHOOTER on May 24, 2016 17:34:29 GMT -5
#3 most added at Rhythmic (14); 5 more adds at Urban AC; 3 more adds at Urban.
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Post by music89 on May 25, 2016 14:08:28 GMT -5
I think Fire We Make did good too. @aliciakeys is the first artist in the billboard Adult R&B chart's history to tally 10 No. 1s with "Fire We Make." btw she lost some "fans" when she released that wack song that is Girl On Fire. I prefer having a good song even if it flops instead of a bad single that becomes a hit tho. I've heard a few people say she lost fans with the "Wack" GOF song. I assuming Urban thought it was wack because pop seemed to like it enough. The song sold 3 million in the US and did fairly well worldwide. So I'm sure that confused Alicia and RCA. Personally, I thought she lost more respect from the SUPPOSED home wrecker scandal. Well...people who dont like her anymore because of the homewrecker thing are stupid LOL. Even if the story was true (which isnt), people should care about the music, not about her personal life. btw i think she lost more fans because of that wack song.
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Post by Caviar on May 25, 2016 14:46:29 GMT -5
But how can you lose fans over ONE song? She flopped hard with "Doesn't Mean Anything" but came back with "Try Sleeping With A Broken Heart". She could easily do the same this era.
Also as bad as it flopped I stanned HARD for "Brand New Me" after it was released. I was surprised it did as bad as it did as it's one of her better songs this decade.
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Post by music89 on May 25, 2016 16:37:17 GMT -5
But how can you lose fans over ONE song? She flopped hard with "Doesn't Mean Anything" but came back with "Try Sleeping With A Broken Heart". She could easily do the same this era. Also as bad as it flopped I stanned HARD for "Brand New Me" after it was released. I was surprised it did as bad as it did as it's one of her better songs this decade. Mmm you are right. Brand New Me is a good song...but It's not 100% soul. It's pop/soul. Maybe people tought the album was more pop than rnb/soul. A lot of people want every Alicia new album to sound like Songs In A Minor/The Diary. And even if her first two albums are her best albums, artists need to explore and try new sounds. Personally i love old school rnb and soul but i also love "experimental" songs like Try Sleeping With A Broken Heart, Love Is Blind, When It's All Over...
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2016 0:34:41 GMT -5
But how can you lose fans over ONE song? She flopped hard with "Doesn't Mean Anything" but came back with "Try Sleeping With A Broken Heart". She could easily do the same this era. Also as bad as it flopped I stanned HARD for "Brand New Me" after it was released. I was surprised it did as bad as it did as it's one of her better songs this decade. Usher gave urban their lives with Climax, followed up with Lemme See as a top 5 urban hit, and STILL got dogged out just because that album had Scream on it. All these urban fans crying that he was doing too much pop but I bet if you asked them to actually name all the pop songs on Looking 4 Myself most of them wouldn't be able to do it because that would have required them to buy the album and listen to it. Meanwhile I was reading a blog comment section the other day - Very Smart Brothas, I think - and there were commenters swearing up and down that Alicia's problem is that she's 'lost,' never had her own musical identity or stuck with one sound and that is why she's currently struggling, when Alicia has probably one of the most consistent musical identities of any artist I can think of...if anything you would think the complaint would be that she hasn't changed up her lane at all (especially that "mother earth" thing someone else alluded to lol). Urban fans these days are just fickle as hell when they want to be. One thing Usher and Alicia have in common (lol pun not intended) is that they have brands based more on their music and not on themselves as a celebrity quantity. So yeah, it's surprisingly very easy to lose fans over one song; when you don't have nearly as many people willing to blindly cape for you, in this current climate that makes it harder to bounce back from a slump, though not impossible. There is the 'homewrecker' thing too, but I think that only affected Alicia in the immediate moment. The GOF era just didn't have any singles that would have fit on urban, but she did more than fine at UAC and the title track did well mostly because of pop. RCA is doing her a disservice by not trying to break her back in on CHR b/c even a little bit of notice there would help out her opening week sales later. And she'd probably have an easier time of it there than she would at urban.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2016 3:01:50 GMT -5
For as big a name as she was/is, Alicia is super low profile. She's kind of like Pink in that when she's not out, she's completely under the radar. Now she's facing a pretty big battle because she's someone who was at their commercial peak over a decade ago, hasn't had a hit that's resonated with her core audience in a half decade and who doesn't have a very strong "celebrity" to fall back on.
I definitely think there's the potential for a big Alicia comeback but it's going to take more than quietly putting out a great single with an extremely understated video.
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Post by vantiboy3 on May 26, 2016 3:49:29 GMT -5
For as big a name as she was/is, Alicia is super low profile. She's kind of like Pink in that when she's not out, she's completely under the radar. Now she's facing a pretty big battle because she's someone who was at their commercial peak over a decade ago, hasn't had a hit that's resonated with her core audience in a half decade and who doesn't have a very strong "celebrity" to fall back on. I definitely think there's the potential for a big Alicia comeback but it's going to take more than quietly putting out a great single with an extremely understated video. I agree. I will add that she is in a completely different music climate/landscape now. She was a huge radio artist back in the day, that is how she was able to sell so many records/albums. Today digital downloads/streaming influences success on any chart. "Girl on Fire" is her only/and first single to have had success on radio/digital and streaming in the current music climate. And that was achieved by a massive promo campaign. Let's not kid ourselves. She worked hard to get that single out there. 4 years ago. Yesterday's update: ALICIA KEYS - In Common: 13.126 (+0.572) ▲
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Post by #LisaRinna on May 26, 2016 8:14:08 GMT -5
Found myself randomly singing this song today :o
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Post by vantiboy3 on May 26, 2016 8:28:02 GMT -5
URBAN
33 28 ALICIA KEYS In Common 968 723 245 5.222
+27 Spins -24 Bullet +0.076 Audience
URBAN AC
15 13 ALICIA KEYS In Common 779 505 274 5.236
+1 Position +80 Spins +46 Bullet +0.597 Audience
RHYTHMIC
51 47 ALICIA KEYS In Common 349 269 80 2.619
+27 Spins +16 Bullet +0.190 Audience
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Post by tamed09 on May 26, 2016 8:59:00 GMT -5
For as big a name as she was/is, Alicia is super low profile. She's kind of like Pink in that when she's not out, she's completely under the radar. Now she's facing a pretty big battle because she's someone who was at their commercial peak over a decade ago, hasn't had a hit that's resonated with her core audience in a half decade and who doesn't have a very strong "celebrity" to fall back on. THIS
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Post by vantiboy3 on May 26, 2016 11:44:02 GMT -5
ALICIA KEYS - In Common: 14.192 (+ 1.066)
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Post by vantiboy3 on May 26, 2016 12:17:59 GMT -5
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Post by steevy on May 29, 2016 12:07:33 GMT -5
I can't believe that she didn't break the hot 100 with her 1st single.. one month after the release and with all that promo..
wow.. Maybe i am wrong, and i don't want to hurt any alicia fans.. because she used to be one of my faves. But i think that this song isn't the type of songthat her core fanbase is expecting from her now.
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Post by elementd5 on May 29, 2016 14:44:26 GMT -5
I can't believe that she didn't break the hot 100 with her 1st single.. one month after the release and with all that promo.. wow.. Maybe i am wrong, and i don't want to hurt any alicia fans.. because she used to be one of my faves. But i think that this song isn't the type of songthat her core fanbase is expecting from her now. I don't really think that's it, per se. Maybe we should/could expect an initial first week or so boast because of her name, but there's only four Urban/R&B-ish artists in the entire Top 150 songs on iTunes (Beyoncé, Rihanna, Jeremih, and the Weekend and I wouldn't really call any of them R&B specifically). The streaming stats are pretty similar. And it's been that way, for the most part, for years now. Just a few, here & there. There has to be a different measure of "success."
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Post by DJ General on May 29, 2016 17:13:15 GMT -5
Alicia is very hit/miss for me, but this song is fantastic. I really thought Urban and Rhythmic would be supporting her regardless just because it is a powerful song for the format. I too am SHOCKED after multiple high profile appearances she couldn't even gt a Hot 100 position, Wow
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Post by Envoirment on May 29, 2016 17:19:54 GMT -5
Not surprised the song hasn't debuted on the Hot 100. It has very low airplay and streaming. Streaming has become a massive part of the Hot 100 in recent years and without it, even with decent sales it's hard to get on the Hot 100. Hopefully this'll be a slow burner and end up doing well on Rhythmic/Urban/Urban AC, perhaps even crossing over to Chr/Pop.
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Post by Aaron on May 30, 2016 12:34:41 GMT -5
Hopefully One Dance's success on pop will lead her label to push this to that format.
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Post by vantiboy3 on May 31, 2016 1:44:31 GMT -5
#12 Urban AC
#22 Urban
#44 Rhythmic
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Post by music89 on May 31, 2016 15:39:25 GMT -5
This song is flopping because it has low airplay and because nowadays only a few people care about R&B/Soul artists.
She needs to perform this song everywhere to see it doing weel on the charts.
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Post by cjay on May 31, 2016 20:13:47 GMT -5
well urban radio begged her to lead off with a R&B song. she served a really good one up this time around and R&B radio didn't even show up. Hope this song is not done though.
Given that she has received the cold shoulder from Urban radio I'm really scared for her opening Numbers. Not even sure if she will get 75k.
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Post by Caviar on May 31, 2016 20:18:57 GMT -5
There's no way she'd do less than 100k.
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Post by cjay on May 31, 2016 20:28:53 GMT -5
Well is love to believe that. She did 159k with GOF and I thought there was no way she's do less than 300k in November. So I don't know. Trust me I'm not wishing for that low number. It's just so different these days and with no radio hit it makes it hard. I'm also starting to think her base fans are a bit fickle (in general), lol.
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Post by music89 on Jun 1, 2016 7:20:58 GMT -5
She will not do great numbers...i think the new album will end up selling like the last one.
For the second single she needs to release one of those new songs off the new album that have old school hip-hop beats. Like She Dont Really Care. It sounds DOPE!
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Post by Queen of Insomnia. on Jun 1, 2016 9:32:23 GMT -5
Imo she'll open w/ 68-80k If she opens w/ more than that I'd really be impressed.
I like Alicia. I think In Common is a step in the right direction, but at the same time I'm not surprised it didn't debut on BB Hot 100.
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Post by Dreams on Jun 1, 2016 10:39:00 GMT -5
It's just astounding why this is such a brutal flop. I really can't wrap my head around it: 1) it's incredibly fresh, 2) it's catchy, 3) it's an ALICIA freakin' KEYS lead single - if it were by Ciara I would get its flopping (and I'm not throwing shade, as I love Ciara).
This couldn't even get into the lower parts of the Hot 100 and that's after a video and an SNL performance. I honestly don't know what she should do with it or what to release next. Perhaps another track with Drake? I won't be surprised if the new LP debuts with her lowest opening total yet, either.
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