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Post by Caviar on Jun 1, 2016 10:41:46 GMT -5
I'm baffled at everyone's first week predictions considering there's no release date.
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Post by doak on Jun 1, 2016 10:54:33 GMT -5
This is starting to get a litte depressing. I've been a fan since 01, but my stan mode started when I heard Diary (the song). She's been one of my fav's since then. What I don't get is everyone trashed GOF, the song, and it somehow was a very successful song for her worldwide. To see a song so fresh and different for her, yet still her at the same time do so horribly bad this early is mind blowing.
I hate to bring personal lives into my favs music (Kanye included), but I always thought the thing with Swizz would tarnish her image. I honestly thought it would be a slow decline, then you hit us with GOF, which seemed to be highly disliked amongst the Urban music scene. To Urban music listeners it seems more of a 6 year break (Un-Thinkable being her last hit there), plus all the instant negative comments I read on blogs regarding her personal life. Even most of my friends totally turned on her, for the reason above.
I'm still holding out for a slow rise, this song is too good IMO and she's still Alicia Keys, rather people want to ignore her or not.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 12:05:20 GMT -5
I think this all comes down much more to the present commercial viability of R&B music than what Alicia is doing or has done wrong or right. Not only that, but she's been around for over 15 years now. I have no expectations of her being a dominant force in mainstream music at this point. This will likely end up a moderate Urban hit and big Urban AC hit, which is just fine in my opinion.
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Post by vantiboy3 on Jun 1, 2016 12:17:28 GMT -5
It NEEDS to smash. At least on radio. I won't accept anything less.
The album drops end of August, so it has enough time to roll out slow in June/July.
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Post by jtd Thee Stallion on Jun 1, 2016 14:36:46 GMT -5
She needs to perform this at the BET Awards.
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Post by bat1990 on Jun 1, 2016 15:23:23 GMT -5
I swear only people who have been making hits for 10 years or less can make hits anymore. P!nk and Beyoncé seem to be the few exceptions.
In the past, I feel like people could at least get 15 years with solid promotion and solid music.
EDIT: Never mind, I just realized that most artists only have a 10-12 year span of commercial viability and now I feel old thinking about my faves.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 16:58:42 GMT -5
This song is still great, such a shame it is not fairing well at all.
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Post by music89 on Jun 1, 2016 16:59:42 GMT -5
She needs to perform this at the BET Awards. She is performing at the BET Awards. but the song needs to be send to Pop radios.
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Post by music89 on Jun 1, 2016 17:04:40 GMT -5
This is starting to get a litte depressing. I've been a fan since 01, but my stan mode started when I heard Diary (the song). She's been one of my fav's since then. What I don't get is everyone trashed GOF, the song, and it somehow was a very successful song for her worldwide. To see a song so fresh and different for her, yet still her at the same time do so horribly bad this early is mind blowing. I hate to bring personal lives into my favs music (Kanye included), but I always thought the thing with Swizz would tarnish her image. I honestly thought it would be a slow decline, then you hit us with GOF, which seemed to be highly disliked amongst the Urban music scene. To Urban music listeners it seems more of a 6 year break (Un-Thinkable being her last hit there), plus all the instant negative comments I read on blogs regarding her personal life. Even most of my friends totally turned on her, for the reason above. I'm still holding out for a slow rise, this song is too good IMO and she's still Alicia Keys, rather people want to ignore her or not. Ew. Private life should not influence music listener. No One is perfect. I should not listen to D'Angelo then (for example)...
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Post by music89 on Jun 1, 2016 17:06:50 GMT -5
I think now Alicia is just like Usher and Mary J. blige...they were big back in the days but now RnB music aint mainstream anymore so they arent doing big numbers anymore, even if they release great songs.
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Post by music89 on Jun 1, 2016 17:19:32 GMT -5
I swear only people who have been making hits for 10 years or less can make hits anymore. P!nk and Beyoncé seem to be the few exceptions. In the past, I feel like people could at least get 15 years with solid promotion and solid music. EDIT: Never mind, I just realized that most artists only have a 10-12 year span of commercial viability and now I feel old thinking about my faves. Pink is pop so...Beyoncé is Urban/Pop. Also...Beyoncé needs to do commercial music and visual to sell...because when she released a quality album (her best album, "4") she didn't do great numbers.
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Post by music89 on Jun 1, 2016 17:23:41 GMT -5
I'm baffled at everyone's first week predictions considering there's no release date. It looks like the album will be out on August 26. Anyway they are being realistic. I dont think she will do great numbers too. 150-200k would be good LOL. But anyways, trust me, Alicia Keys stans dont even care about album sales that much. First of all i want a GREAT album. Then if it sells good I'm happy.
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Post by DJ General on Jun 1, 2016 17:34:43 GMT -5
Not surprised the song hasn't debuted on the Hot 100. It has very low airplay and streaming. Streaming has become a massive part of the Hot 100 in recent years and without it, even with decent sales it's hard to get on the Hot 100. Hopefully this'll be a slow burner and end up doing well on Rhythmic/Urban/Urban AC, perhaps even crossing over to Chr/Pop. I get the actual reason why it isn't charting. What I was saying is that I never thought a well promoted lead single from R&B staple (using loosely) Alicia would get the shaft like this. It's truly shocking. It's not like she has been over saturated or this is a weak outing from her.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 19:01:56 GMT -5
There are only a handful of what I would consider "traditional R&B songs" charting at Urban radio right now (Alicia, Ro James, and Maxwell are the only ones in my opinion), and Alicia's track is the highest ranked. I think they had two options with her here: A.) Release some ratchet song that would maybe grace the Top 10 but further alienate her base, or B.) Do what they did and cater to her base at the expense of a mainstream Urban hit. I think they made the right choice. She's not going to be gaining many new fans at this point in her career. More important to gain back the ones who were alienated by her in the past few years to further cement her legacy.
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Post by music89 on Jun 2, 2016 5:03:05 GMT -5
There are only a handful of what I would consider "traditional R&B songs" charting at Urban radio right now (Alicia, Ro James, and Maxwell are the only ones in my opinion), and Alicia's track is the highest ranked. I think they had two options with her here: A.) Release some ratchet song that would maybe grace the Top 10 but further alienate her base, or B.) Do what they did and cater to her base at the expense of a mainstream Urban hit. I think they made the right choice. She's not going to be gaining many new fans at this point in her career. More important to gain back the ones who were alienated by her in the past few years to further cement her legacy. Totally agree with everything you wrote!
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jun 2, 2016 15:47:42 GMT -5
Up 32-26 on R&B/Hip-Hop Airplay.
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Post by jtd Thee Stallion on Jun 3, 2016 10:28:03 GMT -5
Radio updates have not been that good..
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Post by music89 on Jun 3, 2016 12:05:15 GMT -5
Radio updates have not been that good.. This. How is it suppose to smash if radios dont support it?! They play a lot of wack songs...smh
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Post by vantiboy3 on Jun 4, 2016 1:21:58 GMT -5
The Graham Norton Show performance:
UK Itunes: #28 United Kingdom (+115)
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Post by vantiboy3 on Jun 5, 2016 14:28:04 GMT -5
Urban AC: #12 (+1) ALICIA KEYS In Common - 920 +40 6.166 +33 spins +0 bullet +0.327 million audience
Urban: #21 (+1) ALICIA KEYS In Common - 1202 +133 5.945 +60 spins +25 bullet +0.277 million audience
Rhythmic: #42 (+1) ALICIA KEYS In Common - 515 +106 2.886 +17 spins -8 bullet +0.278 million audience
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Post by vantiboy3 on Jun 6, 2016 10:57:08 GMT -5
Yesterday's update: 05/06 ALICIA KEYS - In Common: 16.586 (+1.009)
Today's update:
06/06 ALICIA KEYS - In Common: 17.371 (+0.785)
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Post by vantiboy3 on Jun 7, 2016 10:46:20 GMT -5
ALICIA KEYS - In Common: 17.926 (+0.555)
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Post by cjay on Jun 7, 2016 19:41:33 GMT -5
Slow and steady! Keep rising!!!
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Post by allow that on Jun 9, 2016 2:36:37 GMT -5
Been hearing it tons in Italy!
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jun 9, 2016 9:09:40 GMT -5
Been hearing it tons in Italy! Yeah it's on the radio a lot. You're here in the motherland?
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Post by vantiboy3 on Jun 10, 2016 8:19:44 GMT -5
ALICIA KEYS - In Common: 18.854 (+0.871)
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Post by Rican@ on Jun 10, 2016 8:27:41 GMT -5
This doing well for a R&B song. If it continues, it will be a hit. Top 10 on urban AC now
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Post by vantiboy3 on Jun 10, 2016 10:20:19 GMT -5
I will be massively heartbroken if this song doesn't blow up very soon. So unfair that such a great song is being ignored by radio.
She (and RCA) better not release another single right now.
The majority of stations have added it to their long lists yet they seem to take their time to add it to their daily playlist.
Still have faith though.
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Post by stunnedout on Jun 10, 2016 11:23:03 GMT -5
She should've put Drake on it.
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Post by music89 on Jun 11, 2016 9:12:05 GMT -5
I will be massively heartbroken if this song doesn't blow up very soon. So unfair that such a great song is being ignored by radio. She (and RCA) better not release another single right now. The majority of stations have added it to their long lists yet they seem to take their time to add it to their daily playlist. Still have faith though. Yes...although i want new music i hope they will not release a new single soon. If the album will be released at the end of August i think they can release a new single 3 weeks before the album release.
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