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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on May 9, 2018 15:40:24 GMT -5
Creative, descriptive songwriting is good. And it's what we should require out of these more pop country sounding tunes. People hate on pop country because some of the songwriting is lazy and undescriptive. It doesn't invoke feelings or emotion or paint a picture. That's the thing though. The details are there, but they don't invoke feelings or emotion in me. To me it comes across as a superstar country-pop singer doing a humble-brag. "Look at me, I'm so cool and big and awesome that MY WIFE has a verified Instagram account! And we can afford to adopt kids from Uganda! LOOK AT ME I'M AWESOME but still a humble little ol' country boy who only has a career because my dad is a big name too". If all pop country writing was like this - i.e. blue checkmark to describe how many fans she has, the Die a Happy Man line, etc - it wouldn't get the bad rep. I hear those lines and I see her instagram account with the blue checkmark, I react when he sings that Die a Happy Man line like woah. Those are good things. Whereas I hear the instagram line and think "Why the hell are you singing about Instagram, that didn't work when Rascal Fats did it."
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Post by thewp on May 9, 2018 15:46:52 GMT -5
I think this is the 3rd or 4th time I’ve seen variations of this same discussion.
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Post by collinkottke on May 9, 2018 15:51:37 GMT -5
That's the thing though. The details are there, but they don't invoke feelings or emotion in me. To me it comes across as a superstar country-pop singer doing a humble-brag. "Look at me, I'm so cool and big and awesome that MY WIFE has a verified Instagram account! And we can afford to adopt kids from Uganda! LOOK AT ME I'M AWESOME but still a humble little ol' country boy who only has a career because my dad is a big name too". Whereas I hear the instagram line and think "Why the hell are you singing about Instagram, that didn't work when Rascal Fats did it." I don't think he's bragging when he talks about adopting a kid from Uganda. They did it because they weren't having success conceiving. His dad has two songs that broke the top 15 on the country charts. Sure, Rhett has written a bunch of hits, but by that logic Tucker Beathard should be a huge superstar, too. I don't think Thomas Rhett and Rascal Flatts are comparable at this point or even where RF was a couple years ago. I'm assuming the Rascal Flatts song you are referring to is 'Payback'.
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Post by Naos on May 9, 2018 16:03:42 GMT -5
I don't think the nepotism is relevant anymore. He surpassed his father's success by leaps and bounds. I also don't see how adding more details is a bad thing. That's part of the reason "Castle on the Hill" by Ed Sheeran was so good.
Thomas probably pointed out Uganda because it isn't his parents' natural born grandchild. "I remember the day, I told my daddy and mamma, you're gonna have a grandkid... From Uganda.". There's a reason the pause is there. It's a biographical song so all these little details make sense. Are you going to complain "Notebook full of bad songs I was writing Never dreamed anyone else would like'em Now they're sitting on a Walmart shelf"
And be like, why did he point out Walmart?
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on May 9, 2018 16:25:31 GMT -5
I don't think he's bragging when he talks about adopting a kid from Uganda. They did it because they weren't having success conceiving. It's the "From Uganda" part that rubs me the wrong way. Why is that detail relevant? Isn't adopting African kids something that only uppity rich people do? Also, the tone of the Instagram line comes across to me as "Ha ha! I'm so popular that MY WIFE has a verified Instagram! And you're not popular! Neither is YOUR wife! Ha ha ha!" I also don't see how adding more details is a bad thing. That's part of the reason "Castle on the Hill" by Ed Sheeran was so good. What the hell does him breaking his leg when he was six have to do with the rest of the song, though? That seems like a totally frivolous detail. Not because of the Walmart part, but because it reads like a humble-brag. "Here I was, just a humble ol' boy writing songs in a notebook and thinking no one will ever write them, because who cares about ego... and now I'm a bigshot superstar who can afford to adopt kids from Uganda because I'm rich, bitch! Look at me! I'm famous! I'm famous! Bow down before me! Mwahahaha!"
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Post by collinkottke on May 9, 2018 16:36:55 GMT -5
I don't think he's bragging when he talks about adopting a kid from Uganda. They did it because they weren't having success conceiving. It's the "From Uganda" part that rubs me the wrong way. Why is that detail relevant? Isn't adopting African kids something that only uppity rich people do? Also, the tone of the Instagram line comes across to me as "Ha ha! I'm so popular that MY WIFE has a verified Instagram! And you're not popular! Neither is YOUR wife! Ha ha ha!" I also don't see how adding more details is a bad thing. That's part of the reason "Castle on the Hill" by Ed Sheeran was so good. What the hell does him breaking his leg when he was six have to do with the rest of the song, though? That seems like a totally frivolous detail. I don't think of adopting from Uganda as an uppity thing to do. Sure, it's expensive, but I think that's the reason most people don't do it. I'd hope that more people would adopt if the price tag wasn't so much. I personally don't take the Instagram line that way. I think he's showing his amazement in how much his life has changed to the point that it has also brought his wife second-hand popularity. I think it's more matter of fact than bragging. We aren't going to agree on this song and that's the beauty of art! 'Castle on the Hill' needs the six years old line to help set up that he was younger then. If he just said he broke his leg, it's a much different story at 24 than it is at six. Ed is trying to paint the picture of innocence and running around and such as a child.
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Post by Naos on May 9, 2018 16:46:54 GMT -5
It's the "From Uganda" part that rubs me the wrong way. Why is that detail relevant? Isn't adopting African kids something that only uppity rich people do? Also, the tone of the Instagram line comes across to me as "Ha ha! I'm so popular that MY WIFE has a verified Instagram! And you're not popular! Neither is YOUR wife! Ha ha ha!" I also don't see how adding more details is a bad thing. That's part of the reason "Castle on the Hill" by Ed Sheeran was so good. What the hell does him breaking his leg when he was six have to do with the rest of the song, though? That seems like a totally frivolous detail. Not because of the Walmart part, but because it reads like a humble-brag. "Here I was, just a humble ol' boy writing songs in a notebook and thinking no one will ever write them, because who cares about ego... and now I'm a bigshot superstar who can afford to adopt kids from Uganda because I'm rich, bitch! Look at me! I'm famous! I'm famous! Bow down before me! Mwahahaha!" You seem to be trying to find evil so much that you're reaching. If you didn't know anything, he's actually a pretty nice guy, so I don't see why there would be any malicious intent. Adopting a kid from the impoverished continent of Africa is bad now? He gave her a life way better than she could've had in Uganda. It's not like he adopted her just because he could. He and Lauren wanted a kid, and they were having trouble. The part about writing is just kinda to show how far he's come. Despite his background, you still have to work. Without connections to the industry, it's all luck. Hell, even with connections, it takes luck. A lot of musicians have connections, especially family. And even if part of the song was about being rich... I see nothing wrong with that inherently. I feel like if this was written by an artist who just got signed, you wouldn't care. Are you also upset with "Sixteen" because he pointed out how he has songs on the radio?
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on May 9, 2018 16:58:14 GMT -5
You seem to be trying to find evil so much that you're reaching. If you didn't know anything, he's actually a pretty nice guy, so I don't see why there would be any malicious intent. Adopting a kid from the impoverished continent of Africa is bad now? He gave her a life way better than she could've had in Uganda. The part about writing is just kinda to show how far he's come. Despite his background, you still have to work. Without connections to the industry, it's all luck. Hell, even with connections, it takes luck. A lot of musicians have connections, especially family. And even if part of the song was about being rich... I see nothing wrong with that inherently. I feel like if this was written by an artist who just got signed, you wouldn't care. It doesn't matter who the artist is. New or established. The whole song reeks of humble-bragging to me. Like he's going out of his way to rub in our faces how famous he is now: "Look at me, I wrote songs in college like every other aspiring singer ever, and now I'm selling billions of albums! I may be saying that I never dreamed about being such a big hit-maker, but that's a total lie -- all I wanted was to be the richest country singer ever." "Look at me, I didn't think I'd have a woman, but now my wife is so famous that she has a verified Instagram account! Because that's important somehow. Maybe my scrotum will get its own verified Instagram account sometime too, because I'm that goddamn famous!" "Look at me, I got rich as hell because I wrote a dopey song about my wife, and despite it being a total Ed Sheeran ripoff, it was my biggest hit ever!" "Look at me, we're both so loaded that we adopted a kid from Uganda even though my wife was clearly fertile enough to get knocked up twice!" I hate it when people brag about how famous they are. And that's all this song is: it's just him bragging about all the cool shit that made him a superstar. Where's the humility? The down-to-earth relatability? I bet literally no one listening to this song has adopted a kid from Uganda, so they can't relate to that line.
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Post by collinkottke on May 9, 2018 17:08:39 GMT -5
You seem to be trying to find evil so much that you're reaching. If you didn't know anything, he's actually a pretty nice guy, so I don't see why there would be any malicious intent. Adopting a kid from the impoverished continent of Africa is bad now? He gave her a life way better than she could've had in Uganda. The part about writing is just kinda to show how far he's come. Despite his background, you still have to work. Without connections to the industry, it's all luck. Hell, even with connections, it takes luck. A lot of musicians have connections, especially family. And even if part of the song was about being rich... I see nothing wrong with that inherently. I feel like if this was written by an artist who just got signed, you wouldn't care. It doesn't matter who the artist is. New or established. The whole song reeks of humble-bragging to me. Like he's going out of his way to rub in our faces how famous he is now: "Look at me, I wrote songs in college like every other aspiring singer ever, and now I'm selling billions of albums! I may be saying that I never dreamed about being such a big hit-maker, but that's a total lie -- all I wanted was to be the richest country singer ever." "Look at me, I didn't think I'd have a woman, but now my wife is so famous that she has a verified Instagram account! Because that's important somehow. Maybe my scrotum will get its own verified Instagram account sometime too, because I'm that goddamn famous!" "Look at me, I got rich as hell because I wrote a dopey song about my wife, and despite it being a total Ed Sheeran ripoff, it was my biggest hit ever!" "Look at me, we're both so loaded that we adopted a kid from Uganda even though my wife was clearly fertile enough to get knocked up twice!" I hate it when people brag about how famous they are. And that's all this song is: it's just him bragging about all the cool s**t that made him a superstar. Where's the humility? The down-to-earth relatability? I bet literally no one listening to this song has adopted a kid from Uganda, so they can't relate to that line. The part of the song that is relatable is the chorus. The song is about how life changes and how it is funny how much life changes for everyone. The verses are his personal experiences of said changes. The song is relatable and personal all at the same time. I'm done now talking about this song now, though. It was fun, but now you're bringing up his scrotum and how clearly his wife was fertile (because we all clearly know just how fertile someone is by seeing her pictures on her verified Instagram)... what the heck.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on May 9, 2018 17:12:03 GMT -5
The song is relatable and personal all at the same time. Yes, because it's totally relatable. Everyone who's heard this song has a wife with a verified Instagram account and is selling their own albums at Walmart, right?
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Post by collinkottke on May 9, 2018 17:14:16 GMT -5
The song is relatable and personal all at the same time. Yes, because it's totally relatable. Everyone who's heard this song has a wife with a verified Instagram account and is selling their own albums at Walmart, right? If you're gonna quote me at least quote the part where I explain that sentence. Again, The part of the song that is relatable is the chorus. The song is about how life changes and how it is funny how much life changes for everyone. The verses are his personal experiences of said changes. The song is relatable and personal all at the same time.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on May 9, 2018 17:23:31 GMT -5
Yes, because it's totally relatable. Everyone who's heard this song has a wife with a verified Instagram account and is selling their own albums at Walmart, right? If you're gonna quote me at least quote the part where I explain that sentence. Again, The part of the song that is relatable is the chorus. The song is about how life changes and how it is funny how much life changes for everyone. The verses are his personal experiences of said changes. The song is relatable and personal all at the same time. So the chorus is relatable but the verses aren't. This ties into the problem I've had with alternative country, where a lot of writers seem so wrapped up in being "personal" in a way that precludes relatability. I have the same problem with "white guy with guitar" types like Ed Sheeran or Jason Mraz, or even a lot of Jewel's stuff. They get so busy gazing at their navels that they forget to put in much for the listener to relate to, other than hanging it on some vague platitude like "life changes". Yes, life changes. Thanks so much for that stunning observation, Captain Obvious. If I were writing the song, it'd probably include the fact that I didn't even have so much as a job at McDonald's until I was 27, that my dad finally moved back up to Oscoda to come and visit me before he died, or that I won a Mazda on Wheel of Fortune. But none of the listeners of such a song have been through that, so they can't relate, now can they?
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Post by lady𝓐fan on May 9, 2018 17:32:12 GMT -5
If you're gonna quote me at least quote the part where I explain that sentence. Again, The part of the song that is relatable is the chorus. The song is about how life changes and how it is funny how much life changes for everyone. The verses are his personal experiences of said changes. The song is relatable and personal all at the same time. So the chorus is relatable but the verses aren't. This ties into the problem I've had with alternative country, where a lot of writers seem so wrapped up in being "personal" in a way that precludes relatability. I have the same problem with "white guy with guitar" types like Ed Sheeran or Jason Mraz, or even a lot of Jewel's stuff. They get so busy gazing at their navels that they forget to put in much for the listener to relate to, other than hanging it on some vague platitude like "life changes". Yes, life changes. Thanks so much for that stunning observation, Captain Obvious. If I were writing the song, it'd probably include the fact that I didn't even have so much as a job at McDonald's until I was 27, that my dad finally moved back up to Oscoda to come and visit me before he died, or that I won a Mazda on Wheel of Fortune. But none of the listeners of such a song have been through that, so they can't relate, now can they? Sorry if this sounds brash, but I think this has more to do with your dislike of Thomas Rhett than the actual song. All he’s doing is telling the story of his life, and if that story includes seeing his album on a shelf in Walmart or adopting a kid from Uganda, so be it.
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Post by Naos on May 9, 2018 17:34:07 GMT -5
You seem to be trying to find evil so much that you're reaching. If you didn't know anything, he's actually a pretty nice guy, so I don't see why there would be any malicious intent. Adopting a kid from the impoverished continent of Africa is bad now? He gave her a life way better than she could've had in Uganda. The part about writing is just kinda to show how far he's come. Despite his background, you still have to work. Without connections to the industry, it's all luck. Hell, even with connections, it takes luck. A lot of musicians have connections, especially family. And even if part of the song was about being rich... I see nothing wrong with that inherently. I feel like if this was written by an artist who just got signed, you wouldn't care. It doesn't matter who the artist is. New or established. The whole song reeks of humble-bragging to me. Like he's going out of his way to rub in our faces how famous he is now: "Look at me, I wrote songs in college like every other aspiring singer ever, and now I'm selling billions of albums! I may be saying that I never dreamed about being such a big hit-maker, but that's a total lie -- all I wanted was to be the richest country singer ever." "Look at me, I didn't think I'd have a woman, but now my wife is so famous that she has a verified Instagram account! Because that's important somehow. Maybe my scrotum will get its own verified Instagram account sometime too, because I'm that goddamn famous!" "Look at me, I got rich as hell because I wrote a dopey song about my wife, and despite it being a total Ed Sheeran ripoff, it was my biggest hit ever!" "Look at me, we're both so loaded that we adopted a kid from Uganda even though my wife was clearly fertile enough to get knocked up twice!" I hate it when people brag about how famous they are. And that's all this song is: it's just him bragging about all the cool s**t that made him a superstar. Where's the humility? The down-to-earth relatability? I bet literally no one listening to this song has adopted a kid from Uganda, so they can't relate to that line. And you're looking to try to find something to attack about the track (or just Thomas Rhett in general). When did Lauren get knocked up twice? They only have two kids to my knolwedge, and one is adopted. Considering they were having trouble conceiving, it's possible of them does have fertility issues. A lot of people can relate to the song, because they likely have gone through similar experiences. Married young, achieving your dreams, having kids, how quickly life can change. He didn't even think about music till college I believe, or late high school. There wasn't much bragging here. By your logic, anyone who talks about their success in a song would just be bragging. People write music about their experiences, so I don't see the issue with writing about his life like he did on this song. You still seem to be reaching. Sorry if this sounds brash, but I think this has more to do with your dislike of Thomas Rhett than the actual song. All he’s doing is telling the story of his life, and if that story includes seeing his album on a shelf in Walmart or adopting a kid from Uganda, so be it. Funny you mention this, because I used to hate him with a passion (I essentially saw him as everything wrong with modern country), and here I am defending him today. I even grew to like some of his older songs I used to not like at all.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2018 18:51:53 GMT -5
I guess I missed the part where Thomas presented the song as a song we all can relate to. He hasn't done that, and there are tons of songs that are completely unrelatable to most of us. Is that a fault in the songs themselves? No. He decided to sing about his life, and if his life includes those things, it's only natural to include those details. For all we know, those details you find annoying, might be stuff that Thomas thinks are personal top himself.
You definitely have an issue with Thomas, so, I guess I'll take this discussion with a few grains of salt lol
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on May 9, 2018 19:25:27 GMT -5
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on May 9, 2018 19:57:36 GMT -5
Ten Pound Hammer the real problem I see time and time again when it comes to songs you accuse as being un-relatable is you simply lack the ability to empathize with anybody. There are literally hundreds of songs that describe things I haven't ever done, nor will, and yet I can perfectly relate to them because I can put myself in their shoes. "Look at me, we're both so loaded that we adopted a kid from Uganda even though my wife was clearly fertile enough to get knocked up twice!" This quoted part literally made me feel ill. They've been very open about how they had trouble conceiving a child and for many many people having a child is one of life's most fulfilling moments. You mocking them over a song you don't like is low.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on May 9, 2018 20:03:11 GMT -5
Okay to address some points here:
I never hated Thomas as a person. He hasn't called anyone a retard like Chase Rice. He hasn't acted like a dick as far as I can tell.
What I hate is when people brag about all the cool crap they can do now that they're rich and famous. What should I even be thinking when he boasts about having an adopted kid from Uganda? That has literally no bearing on anything else in the world and is totally irrelevant to anyone who isn't Thomas Rhett. Same with the Instagram thing.
Why should any listener care about those details? The particular ones chosen have absolutely no bearing on anything.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on May 9, 2018 20:07:41 GMT -5
Okay to address some points here: I never hated Thomas as a person. He hasn't called anyone a retard like Chase Rice. He hasn't acted like a dick as far as I can tell. What I hate is when people brag about all the cool crap they can do now that they're rich and famous. What should I even be thinking when he boasts about having an adopted kid from Uganda? That has literally no bearing on anything else in the world and is totally irrelevant to anyone who isn't Thomas Rhett. Same with the Instagram thing. Why should any listener care about those details? The particular ones chosen have absolutely no bearing on anything. He's not BOASTING he's just telling a story. And honestly I think him mentioning where his child comes from is not only a nice detail but an important one. I can see it as honouring where she's coming from.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on May 9, 2018 20:09:32 GMT -5
Ten Pound Hammer the real problem I see time and time again when it comes to songs you accuse as being un-relatable is you simply lack the ability to empathize with anybody. There are literally hundreds of songs that describe things I haven't ever done, nor will, and yet I can perfectly relate to them because I can put myself in their shoes. Does your wife have a verified instagram account? What part of this song do you relate to? Again, why should I or anyone else care that the freaking kid is from Uganda?
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on May 9, 2018 20:19:53 GMT -5
Ten Pound Hammer the real problem I see time and time again when it comes to songs you accuse as being un-relatable is you simply lack the ability to empathize with anybody. There are literally hundreds of songs that describe things I haven't ever done, nor will, and yet I can perfectly relate to them because I can put myself in their shoes. Does your wife have a verified instagram account? What part of this song do you relate to? Again, why should I or anyone else care that the freaking kid is from Uganda? Well considering I'm gay and unmarried no I don't have a wife and can't relate to it directly. However I do know how it feels to be happy for a someone I love so when I hear that line I just apply that same feeling to it. Again it's empathy, something you seemingly can't grasp. I'll just repost this regarding his kid being from Uganda: "He's not BOASTING he's just telling a story. And honestly I think him mentioning where his child comes from is not only a nice detail but an important one. I can see it as honouring where she's coming from." I guess it's just me but it's nice to know that Thomas and his wife aren't going to just wipe away their child's heritage.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on May 9, 2018 20:20:14 GMT -5
The Uganda line is imperative for the entire point of the 3rd verse. The whole premise of the song is "ain't it funny how life changes". They couldn't get pregnant, so they chose to adopt, but then they got pregnant anyway so now they have two under two! If you take out the part about Uganda, it doesn't make any sense because it sounds like Thomas is telling his parents they're pregnant, when they're actually adopting.
And I don't find this song "braggy" in the slightest. This is very personal to Thomas, but he is using his life to show that its crazy how fast life can change; when you think you have a plan, it can get changed for the better in the blink of an eye - this is SUPER relatable. Literally everyone can relate to this. He just uses his own life to show that, and its in an adorable way. Thomas (and his wife Lauren) do an incredible job at fan engagement. The "And now she got her own set of fans. She got a blue check mark by her Instagram. And I wrote a little song about holding her hand and now everybody wanna die happy now" is my favorite part of the song and is used, again not to brag but to show that they went from being a cute little elementary school crush to them both being huge stars and that's how much life changed for them!
Sure, this song is very specific to Thomas' life and that'll turn some people off from it, but Thomas' fans EAT THIS SONG UP. You should have heard people at his show when he sang this. I saw him in October, 6 weeks after his album dropped and you would think this was a multi-week #1 already the way the audience sang along with this one. On the contrary of finding this song braggy, I find that it humanizes Thomas a little bit. It makes him sound like a normal guy who somehow stumbled into success, love, and luck.
Love this, love Thomas, and I can't wait for this to be another #1 for him. He's such a nice, humble guy and he deserves all the success he's had.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2018 20:21:09 GMT -5
As I mentioned before, why are you so obsessed about songs being relatable to you? I seriously don't think you'd go on a song thread and spill this nonsense, if the song was for example, Angry All The Time by Tim McGraw. Chances are you haven't experienced violence or just plain anger from a partner. So you tell me, would you go to that thread and say "This is so unrelatable, why is he singing about something we don't care?". Surprise, singers write about their lives, not about yours. If we remove your need for the song to be relatable to you, we still have the boasting issue. Imagine you win the lottery. I assume that would make you happy, and either in a song or in an interview (if you were famous) I assume you would want to share your happy news. And for what? For all your fans to attack you and tell you how unrelatable your song is? Very few people win the lottery, and your happiness would only bring you hate cause your song sounds like you're boasting about it. Get a grip, you don't like the song or the lyrics? Just move on, it's that easy.
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Post by Naos on May 9, 2018 20:46:50 GMT -5
This discussion had me thinking. Can we not relate to or emphathize with any character from a film or video game? It's a similar principle. Just because we don't go through what they go through (sometimes we know we never will), doesn't mean we can't feel happy or sad for them in that instance and put ourselves in their shoes. With Thomas Rhett, "Marry Me" is a good example of that. He didn't go through that, and I'm sure a lot of fans never did, but the message resonated with a lot of people. You can also relate it to similar experiences. Or project yourself onto the song if you have to.
But, can no one just sing about the dreams they achieved anymore? Can they not talk about it? It's not like Thomas said "I have these and you don't!".
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Post by .indulgecountry on May 9, 2018 23:24:04 GMT -5
I literally don't even like this one at all as I expressed earlier in the thread, but MY. GOD. I feel like rooting for this song now after reading these asinine excuses for why it's not a good song. Mess.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on May 10, 2018 0:42:40 GMT -5
He's not BOASTING he's just telling a story. And honestly I think him mentioning where his child comes from is not only a nice detail but an important one. I can see it as honouring where she's coming from. Then why does he put such emphasis on it? He emphasizes the word "Uganda" and puts a beat before it, throwing the song out of time just to draw attention to "HEY EVERYONE! I ADOPTED A KID FROM UGANDA!!! ISN'T THAT AMAZING?!?" Well considering I'm gay and unmarried no I don't have a wife and can't relate to it directly. However I do know how it feels to be happy for a someone I love so when I hear that line I just apply that same feeling to it. Again it's empathy, something you seemingly can't grasp. How do you empathize with a woman whom you know only because she's riding her more famous husband's coattails? when you think you have a plan, it can get changed for the better in the blink of an eye - this is SUPER relatable. Literally everyone can relate to this.Bullshit. "And I wrote a little song about holding her hand and now everybody wanna die happy now" is my favorite part of the song and is used, again not to brag but to show that they went from being a cute little elementary school crush to them both being huge stars and that's how much life changed for them! Granted, some of that may be because I don't like "Die a Happy Man" either. Was it really his dream, as he sang in "Die a Happy Man", to "build a mansion in Georgia"? I don't think he even has the resources to do that now. It makes him sound like a normal guy who somehow stumbled into success, love, and luck. only has a career because his dad was a big-shot writer. FTFY. We all know no label would have given TR a chance at all if it weren't for his dad writing about 50% of the chart in the past decade. As I mentioned before, why are you so obsessed about songs being relatable to you? It's more like "how is this relatable to anyone who isn't Thomas Rhett"? It's not like Thomas said "I have these and you don't!". With the smug tone the song has, he might as well be.
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Post by .indulgecountry on May 10, 2018 0:56:32 GMT -5
*a whole bunch of nonsense*
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Post by Naos on May 10, 2018 1:28:29 GMT -5
FTFY. We all know no label would have given TR a chance at all if it weren't for his dad writing about 50% of the chart in the past decade. With the smug tone the song has, he might as well be. Or you know... The label thought he was marketable? Rhett Akins' charting career was pretty forgettable, so it's not like being the son gave much attention from the listeners. And what smug tone? There's no smug tone at all. And the pointing out of Uganda... Why not? Would you rather him make a song generic as possible so it appeals to everybody? Do you want Bo Burnham's "Repeat Stuff" played straight? You seem to have this anti-Thomas Rhett agenda.
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Post by bboat11 on May 10, 2018 1:39:30 GMT -5
Ten Pound Hammer the real problem I see time and time again when it comes to songs you accuse as being un-relatable is you simply lack the ability to empathize with anybody. There are literally hundreds of songs that describe things I haven't ever done, nor will, and yet I can perfectly relate to them because I can put myself in their shoes. Does your wife have a verified instagram account? What part of this song do you relate to?Again, why should I or anyone else care that the freaking kid is from Uganda? But why do you have to literally experience something to be able to relate to it? I can relate to and enjoy the love story in "Check Yes Or No" even though I didn't personally have a 3rd grade crush. I can relate to the character in "Dirty Girl" even though Terri Clark has never whispered "What you really need's a 3/16ths" in my ear. I can relate to the character in "I'm Alright" even though I have never literally stumbled across an old friend wearing a 3-piece suit and told him he'd better grab a chair and a couple of beers. I can relate to Sara Evans even though I am not schizophrenic. I can empathize with the daughter in "Concrete Angel" despite the fact that I have never been literally beaten to death by my parents... I don't think anybody or especially you is supposed to care that the child is from Uganda. But it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that the whole Uganda lyric is necessary to make the verse make sense, as Zaclord so eloquently explained. Sure, maybe the verse is sloppily put together and should have been rearranged so that the Uganda lyric didn't have to be a thing, but tbh I don't think you are actually looking for any sort of proactive discussion here about ways to make the song better. Which can mean only one thing:
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Post by SHOOTER on May 10, 2018 2:00:18 GMT -5
I don’t care for this song at all but I must say the eloquence and mental fortitude you all possess to contend with the obvious troll infestation in here is to be commended!
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