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Post by felipe on Jun 7, 2018 7:08:03 GMT -5
I realize I should backtrack a bit on my original comment for it was made in a bit of haste and impulse. A couple of you have brought up the issue of Kanye (and other artists') mental health, and I have considered that with him a lot and because so, have been able to realize that his behavior and views he is espousing might not be completely genuine, so I can cut him some slack for that (a statement such as "slavery was a choice" is of course completely irrational and could not have been said by someone in a balanced state of mind). However, as Naos10 brought up, have mental illness does not completely excuse one from living with the consequences of their speech and behavior. I guess it's a matter of degree, Kanye's views seem to be on the extreme side, yet he does seem to be seriously mentally ill, maybe even seriously psychotic, so he probably belongs more in treatment than on a performing stage. But in actuality, I was only really a moderate fan of his when he used to have more mainstream radio hits in the 2000s, so I wouldn't buy or listen to his music now anyways. Isn't that sad? Kanye is not hurting anyone, but you don't like the things he says so you think he should stop working and making his music since "he doesn't belong on a stage." For instance, I am assuming that at least some of the defenders of Kanye here voted for Trump or are at least conservative, so would you guys have any trouble supporting and listening to an artist who has very publicly and openly wholeheartedly endorsed and given massive campaign contributions to Hillary Clinton (assuming it was a time when she was still running for office)? Didn't most artists support Clinton? I'm pretty sure most people who voted for Trump still listen to Havana or whatever and don't give a damn that the artist has criticized Trump (save for a few extreme exceptions surely). I don't think anybody was like "Oh, my not going to watch the new Avengers movie because those actors supported Hillary."
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Post by Gary on Jun 7, 2018 7:12:18 GMT -5
I wish all the people who do this well but...I have never sat down and started to listen to a song and say to myself "oops...this one is on this weeks political boycott list..better shut it off"
That being said, a lot of the rap that is out now where they swear every third word and put it to music, I probably wouldn't listen to much anyway - not because of off stage behavior but because of the music itself
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Post by tinawina on Jun 7, 2018 9:57:03 GMT -5
Funny that these people are responding to the ones who are acting superior for boycotting Kanye. So? No one should be doing it. I personally would listen to several R Kelly songs even today, Gary Glitter too. Happen to like the music. I respect and admire people for taking a stand on political issues when it comes to boycotting one piece of music or another, because one artist or another made the news for negative reasons. However, I choose not to do that. Yeah thats cool. For me, I'm... I guess the word is pragmatic? I think of things in terms of "when I buy/stream this, I'm helping this person make money or helping them keep their status or influence." So when I see how R Kelly uses his money and influence to prey on young girls I just can't do anything that helps him in practical terms.. you know? Especially over some songs. It's not like my life will end if I dont listen to R Kelly songs. There's a lot of enoyable music out there and nobody is so essentail that I have to make myself ignore teen girl sex slaves. .
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Post by Gary on Jun 7, 2018 10:18:58 GMT -5
The difference lies in this
When I buy/stream something, I am doing it because I want to.
I get $1.29 of personal entertainment value if I buy and/or getting use out of a $9.99 streaming subscription
For me, it stops there.
For the record I have not bought any R Kelly songs in years. Most of my collection comes from when he was at his peak in the 90s and 00s. No interest in just throwing all that out.
However, let's look at it a different way, R Kelly will see a fraction of a penny from each stream and a few pennies on the dollar for each download. If there is a mini-boycott of R. Kelly songs, how much of a drop in income will he really see.
If there is a movement to boycott an artist for questionable behavior such as at Spotify that would have a bigger impact but then you get into the controversy of who decides what is questionable behavior? Music consumers should make up their own minds, just as you & I have.
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Post by kingofpain on Jun 7, 2018 17:43:08 GMT -5
True, it’s not like Chris Pratt’s career has been effected by being a Trump supporter.
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Post by fhas on Jun 7, 2018 17:55:59 GMT -5
STREAMING SONGS: TELL ME SOMETHING G.O.O.D.
Kanye West's songs fill the upper reaches of this week's Streaming Songs Chart like a giant herd of wild mustangs galloping across the Wyoming landscape. Or something. In any case, tracks from the seven-song G.O.O.D./Def Jam set Ye make up the entirety of the Top 5 and seven of the Top 10, because that's as much of the Top 10 as was possible. What's more, UMG—which enjoys a 72% marketshare overall—has every song in the Top 10, 14 of the Top 15 and 17 of the Top 20. Sony has a 15% share and WMG 13%. More stats: Ye becomes the 11th-ranking album of all time in terms of single-week streams from one album, with a projected 192m overall, and seventh-ranked artist in that grouping (behind Post Malone, Drake, Kendrick Lamar, J.Cole, Migos and Cardi B). But since he put only seven tracks on Ye, he has a higher per-track average than anybody in this prestigious company, at 27.4m.
What's the top-ranking song that isn't hip-hop? Maroon 5's "Girls Like You" (222/Interscope) at #18 and 11.3m streams, though that track does feature the estimable Cardi. hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=312162
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Post by felipe on Jun 7, 2018 18:52:42 GMT -5
More stats: Ye becomes the 11th-ranking album of all time in terms of single-week streams from one album, with a projected 192m overall, and seventh-ranked artist in that grouping (behind Post Malone, Drake, Kendrick Lamar, J.Cole, Migos and Cardi B). But since he put only seven tracks on Ye, he has a higher per-track average than anybody in this prestigious company, at 27.4m.
Wow!
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Post by 85la on Jun 8, 2018 1:37:18 GMT -5
I realize I should backtrack a bit on my original comment for it was made in a bit of haste and impulse. A couple of you have brought up the issue of Kanye (and other artists') mental health, and I have considered that with him a lot and because so, have been able to realize that his behavior and views he is espousing might not be completely genuine, so I can cut him some slack for that (a statement such as "slavery was a choice" is of course completely irrational and could not have been said by someone in a balanced state of mind). However, as Naos10 brought up, have mental illness does not completely excuse one from living with the consequences of their speech and behavior. I guess it's a matter of degree, Kanye's views seem to be on the extreme side, yet he does seem to be seriously mentally ill, maybe even seriously psychotic, so he probably belongs more in treatment than on a performing stage. But in actuality, I was only really a moderate fan of his when he used to have more mainstream radio hits in the 2000s, so I wouldn't buy or listen to his music now anyways. Isn't that sad? Kanye is not hurting anyone, but you don't like the things he says so you think he should stop working and making his music since "he doesn't belong on a stage." You are completely misconstruing what I was saying. I am saying he should probably be in treatment and not on the stage not because I disagree with the things he said but because he is mentally ill (which has been confirmed publicly; he has been open about the fact he has bipolar disorder, and about a year and a half ago he was hospitalized), and the celebrity lifestyle seems to be taking a very strong toll on him. Going through successful treatment would enable him to live a more balanced, healthy life to continue being the well-respected, creative artist that he is and to put out (what the public thinks is, I myself not so much anymore) good music. What I was saying about the "slavery was a choice" comment was that a statement so extreme as that is likely not a rational, well-thought out view of his, but rather a result and a sign of his extreme mental instability, which is one of the reasons why he should seek more intensive treatment. But can I ask you, do you not have any problems with that statement, whether it is a rational, well-thought out view or a sign of mental instability?
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jun 8, 2018 17:12:46 GMT -5
Kanye West zooms to #1 on this week's HITS Top 50 chart with his seven-song Ye (G.O.O.D./Def Jam), scoring 210k+ all in.
This weighty chart bow follows a newsy phase of Wyoming listening parties, scandalous soundbites and full-on biz buzz. We've also learned that Kanye has become the seventh-ranked artist ever for first-week streams from a single album and had the eighth-biggest first week in total streams.
What about the rest of the chart, you ask? Keep your damn pants on.
Republic's Post Malone falls just short of another six-figure week with 99k, good for #2 for the platinum beerbongs and bentleys.
The new dispatch from Loma Vista/Concord's goth-rock conceptualists Ghost bows at #3 with 60k, while Luke Combs has a deluxe bump (jumping #42-4 and doing 53k) with the refurbished This One's for You Too (River House/Columbia Nashville), becoming the chart's biggest gainer by a mile.
Father John Misty has the only other non-Kanye debut in the Top 20, as his Sub Pop collection God's Favorite Customer makes hipsters swoon to the tune of nearly 26k, good for #17.
222/Interscope's Maroon 5 returns with a #13 perch, thanks to exploding single "Girls Like You." UMG, with Kanye and five other titles in the Top 10, has a mighty 64% marketshare; WMG takes 21%, Sony 14% and assorted indies 1%.
You can dig into the whole chart here.
New this week: fresh offerings from RCA's Dave Matthews Band, G.O.O.D./Def Jam's Kids See Ghosts (co-crafted by Kid Cudi and Kanye), Freebandz/Epic's Future-driven Superfly ST, Sugarland (Big Machine) and Dierks Bentley (Capitol Nashville), among others.
We wish you a restful weekend. We probably shouldn't have started on the edibles so early, but hey, it's 4:20 somewhere.
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Post by Glove Slap on Jun 8, 2018 19:41:12 GMT -5
HITS TOP 50 UPDATED DAILY TUESDAY-FRIDAYChart Date: 06/08/2018 (Week Ending: 06/07/2018) MARKETSHARE: UMG 64% WMG 21% SME 14% INDIE 1% Status: Final LW TW ARTIST | TITLE | LABEL TOTAL CHANGE ALBUMS TEA SEA -- 1 KANYE WEST | YE G.O.O.D/DEF JAM 210,328 -- 82,089 3,632 124,607 2 2 POST MALONE | BEERBONGS & BENTLEYS REPUBLIC 99,313 -4% 10,930 7,794 80,589 -- 3 GHOST | PREQUELLE LOMA VISTA/CONCORD 60,401 -- 55,788 520 4,093 42 4 LUKE COMBS | THIS ONE'S FOR YOU TOO RIVER HOUSE/COLUMBIA NASHVILLE 53,328 301% 24,889 10,564 17,875 5 5 CARDI B | INVASION OF PRIVACY ATLANTIC 48,440 3% 3,961 5,451 39,028 9 6 JUICE WRLD | GOODBYE & GOOD RIDDANCE INTERSCOPE 42,175 -2% 1,043 1,454 39,678 8 7 THE GREATEST SHOWMAN | SOUNDTRACK ATLANTIC 41,772 -3% 25,426 3,860 12,486 7 8 LIL BABY | HARDER THAN EVER QUALITY CONTROL/MOTOWN/CAPITOL 38,199 -16% 812 870 36,517 1 9 SHAWN MENDES | SHAWN MENDES ISLAND 37,012 -80% 12,355 3,391 21,266 4 10 PUSHA T | DAYTONA DEF JAM 31,290 -59% 10,592 739 19,959 10 11 J. COLE | KOD DREAMVILLE/ROC NATION/INTERSCOPE 29,864 -8% 3,776 821 25,267 6 12 BTS | LOVE YOURSELF 'TEAR' BIGHIT 29,594 -35% 14,250 1,861 13,483 -- 13 MAROON 5 | RED PILL BLUES 222/INTERSCOPE 29,573 -- 4,423 10,129 15,021 3 14 A$AP ROCKY | TESTING RCA 27,403 -63% 1,271 505 25,627 31 15 JASON ALDEAN | REARVIEW TOWN BROKEN BOW/BMG 27,351 73% 18,022 2,295 7,034 12 16 POST MALONE | STONEY REPUBLIC 26,010 5% 2,231 1,896 21,883 -- 17 FATHER JOHN MISTY | GOD'S FAVORITE CUSTOMER SUB POP 25,887 -- 22,165 163 3,559 13 18 MIGOS | CULTURE II QUALITY CONTROL/MOTOWN/CAPITOL 22,512 -5% 1,139 1,540 19,833 14 19 BLACK PANTHER | SOUNDTRACK TDE/AFTERMATH/INTERSCOPE 22,190 -7% 2,603 1,821 17,766 19 20 IMAGINE DRAGONS | EVOLVE KIDINAKORNER/INTERSCOPE 22,115 6% 6,178 5,257 10,680 18 21 ED SHEERAN | DIVIDE ATLANTIC 21,119 -1% 5,166 2,743 13,210 16 22 TAYLOR SWIFT | REPUTATION BIG MACHINE/BMLG 19,302 -5% 6,358 2,437 10,507 17 23 XXXTENTACION | ? BAD VIBES FOREVER 19,241 -4% 426 949 17,866 24 24 KANE BROWN | KANE BROWN RCA NASHVILLE/ZONE 4 18,011 4% 5,283 2,688 10,040 27 25 KHALID | AMERICAN TEEN RIGHT HAND MUSIC/RCA 17,098 -2% 1,572 838 14,688 50 26 13 REASONS WHY: SEASON 2 | VARIOUS ARTISTS INTERSCOPE 16,833 11% 421 3,204 13,208 25 27 KENDRICK LAMAR | DAMN. TDE/AFTERMATH/INTERSCOPE 15,959 -4% 2,593 617 12,749 15 28 PLAYBOI CARTI | DIE LIT INTERSCOPE 15,959 -10% 160 191 15,608 22 29 RAE SREMMURD | SR3MM EARDRUMA/INTERSCOPE 15,287 -11% 202 694 14,391 36 30 HAMILTON | ORIGINAL BROADWAY MUSICAL UPTOWN/ATLANTIC 14,970 -4% 4,886 452 9,632 29 31 RICH THE KID | THE WORLD IS YOURS RICH FOREVER/INTERSCOPE 14,835 -2% 202 662 13,971 26 32 NAV | RECKLESS XO/REPUBLIC 14,572 -16% 246 161 14,165 34 33 CAMILA CABELLO | CAMILA SYCO/EPIC 14,409 -2% 1,746 2,729 9,934 38 34 LIL SKIES | LIFE OF A DARK ROSE ATLANTIC 14,037 3% 145 434 13,458 35 35 LIL UZI VERT | LUV IS RAGE 2 GENERATION NOW/ATLANTIC 13,988 0% 123 304 13,561 37 36 BAZZI | COSMIC IAMCOSMIC/ATLANTIC 13,589 -7% 402 1,647 11,540 -- 37 METALLICA | HARDWIRED... TO SELF DESTRUCT BLACKENED 13,400 -- 11,797 220 1,383 28 38 THE WEEKND | MY DEAR MELANCHOLY, XO/REPUBLIC 13,105 -8% 1,928 580 10,597 -- 39 NEKO CASE | HELL-ON ANTI/EPITAPH 13,055 -- 12,096 140 819 32 40 CHARLIE PUTH | VOICENOTES ARTIST PARTNER/ATLANTIC 12,801 -9% 3,400 1,662 7,739 33 41 YOUNGBOY NEVER BROKE AGAIN | UNTIL DEATH CALL MY NAME ATLANTIC 12,800 -7% 264 440 12,096 21 42 FIVE FINGER DEATH PUNCH | AND JUSTICE FOR NONE PROSPECT PARK 12,153 -34% 7,708 973 3,472 44 43 SZA | CTRL TDE/RCA 12,128 -2% 1,529 363 10,236 47 44 DRAKE | MORE LIFE YMCMB/REPUBLIC 12,096 -8% 218 266 11,612 -- 45 MICHAEL JACKSON | ESSENTIAL MICHAEL JACKSON EPIC/LEGACY 11,490 -- 1,406 1,672 8,412 40 46 THOMAS RHETT | LIFE CHANGES VALORY/BMG 11,296 -2% 1,743 1,416 8,137 -- 47 DRAKE | VIEWS YMCMB/REPUBLIC 11,216 -- 317 310 10,589 -- 48 BRUNO MARS | 24K MAGIC ATLANTIC 11,191 -- 2,466 1,221 7,504 49 49 BLOCBOY JB | SIMI BLOC NATION 11,183 -11% 34 155 10,994 -- 50 MICHAEL RAY | AMOS ATLANTIC 10,916 -- 7,057 1,538 2,321
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Post by Glove Slap on Jun 8, 2018 19:41:51 GMT -5
BUILDING ALBUM SALES CHART UPDATED DAILY TUESDAY-FRIDAYChart Date: 06/08/2018 (Week Ending: 06/07/2018) MARKETSHARE: UMG 52% WMG 30% SME 14% INDIE 4% Status: Final LW TW Artist / Album Label Sales Index % Change -- 1 KANYE WEST YE G.O.O.D./DEF JAM 82,089 -- -- 2 GHOST PREQUELLE LOMA VISTA/CONCORD 55,788 -- 4 3 THE GREATEST SHOWMAN SOUNDTRACK ATLANTIC 25,426 5% -- 4 LUKE COMBS THIS ONE'S FOR YOU TOO RIVER HOUSE/COLUMBIA NASHVILLE 24,889 -- -- 5 FATHER JOHN MISTY GOD'S FAVORITE CUSTOMER SUB POP 22,165 -- -- 6 JASON ALDEAN REARVIEW TOWN BROKEN BOW/BMG 18,022 -- 3 7 BTS LOVE YOURSELF 'TEAR' BIGHIT 14,250 -46% 1 8 SHAWN MENDES SHAWN MENDES ISLAND 12,355 -91% -- 9 NEKO CASE HELL-ON ANTI/EPITAPH 12,096 -- -- 10 METALLICA HARDWIRED... TO SELF DESTRUCT BLACKENED 11,797 -- 7 11 POST MALONE BEERBONGS & BENTLEYS REPUBLIC 10,930 -17% 2 12 PUSHA T DAYTONA DEF JAM 10,592 -69% -- 13 BLACK THOUGHT STREAMS OF THOUGHT, VOL. 1 HUMAN RE SOURCES 7,957 -- 2 14 FIVE FINGER DEATH PUNCH AND JUSTICE FOR NONE PROSPECT PARK 7,708 -45% 15 15 NOW 66 VARIOUS ARTISTS NOW 7,241 -2% -- 16 MICHAEL RAY AMOS ATLANTIC 7,057 -- 9 17 P!NK BEAUTIFUL TRAUMA RCA 6,518 -45% 14 18 TAYLOR SWIFT REPUTATION BIG MACHINE/BMLG 6,358 -20% 19 19 IMAGINE DRAGONS EVOLVE KIDINAKORNER/INTERSCOPE 6,178 14% -- 20 OWL CITY CINEMATIC OWL CITY 5,541 -- -- 21 AMERICAN AQUARIUM THINGS CHANGE NEW WEST 5,435 -- -- 22 KENNY CHESNEY LIVE IN NO SHOES NATION BLUE CHAIR/COLUMBIA NASHVILLE 5,404 -- 28 23 KANE BROWN KANE BROWN RCA NASHVILLE/ZONE 4 5,283 18% 24 24 ED SHEERAN DIVIDE ATLANTIC 5,166 7% 20 25 KEITH URBAN GRAFFITI U CAPITOL NASHVILLE 4,940 -8% 21 26 HAMILTON ORIGINAL BROADWAY MUSICAL UPTOWN/ATLANTIC 4,886 -1% -- 27 BEN HOWARD NOONDAY DREAM ISLAND 4,687 -- 41 28 MAROON 5 RED PILL BLUES 222/INTERSCOPE 4,423 69% 35 29 CARDI B INVASION OF PRIVACY ATLANTIC 3,961 25% 22 30 J. COLE KOD DREAMVILLE/ROC NATION/INTERSCOPE 3,776 -23% 33 31 METALLICA METALLICA BLACKENED 3,567 4% 20 32 ARCTIC MONKEYS TRANQUILITY BASE HOTEL & CASINO DOMINO 3,514 15% 36 33 CHRIS STAPLETON FROM A ROOM: VOLUME 1 MERCURY NASHVILLE 3,499 14% 32 34 CHRIS STAPLETON TRAVELLER MERCURY NASHVILLE 3,424 -3% 25 35 CHARLIE PUTH VOICENOTES ARTIST PARTNER/ATLANTIC 3,400 -27% 34 36 CHRIS STAPLETON FROM A ROOM: VOLUME 2 MERCURY NASHVILLE 3,322 3% 16 37 SAM SMITH THE THRILL OF IT ALL CAPITOL 3,255 -52% 27 38 SHINEDOWN ATTENTION ATTENTION ATLANTIC 3,212 -28% 23 39 DEADPOOL 2 SOUNDTRACK COLUMBIA 3,202 -34% -- 40 MERCYME I CAN ONLY IMAGINE - THE VERY FAIR TRADE 2,932 -- 31 41 GRETA VAN FLEET FROM THE FIRES REPUBLIC 2,917 -22% 29 42 GODSMACK WHEN LEGENDS RISE BMG 2,872 -32% -- 43 LUKE BRYAN WHAT MAKES YOU COUNTRY CAPITOL NASHVILLE 2,871 -- 30 44 LEON BRIDGES GOOD THING COLUMBIA 2,857 -31% 38 45 BLACK PANTHER SOUNDTRACK TDE/AFTERMATH/INTERSCOPE 2,603 -13% 40 46 KENDRICK LAMAR DAMN. TDE/AFTERMATH/INTERSCOPE 2,593 -8% -- 47 BRUNO MARS 24K MAGIC ATLANTIC 2,466 -- 44 48 BOB MARLEY & THE WAILERS LEGEND ISLAND 2,343 4% -- 49 POST MALONE STONEY REPUBLIC 2,231 -- 42 50 MOANA SOUNDTRACK WALT DISNEY 2,204 -7%
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Post by Naos on Jun 8, 2018 20:40:53 GMT -5
Oh... No Natalie Prass? Shame. One of my favourite albums this year.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jun 8, 2018 21:06:15 GMT -5
^Once again, Shawn Mendes has an album with more than a 90% drop in pure sales in its second week.
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Post by Enigma. on Jun 9, 2018 1:23:47 GMT -5
LOL Metallica back again, it's certainly like a yo-yo
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Post by felipe on Jun 9, 2018 6:47:53 GMT -5
What I was saying about the "slavery was a choice" comment was that a statement so extreme as that is likely not a rational, well-thought out view of his, but rather a result and a sign of his extreme mental instability, which is one of the reasons why he should seek more intensive treatment. But can I ask you, do you not have any problems with that statement, whether it is a rational, well-thought out view or a sign of mental instability? Of course that statement is problematic, even though Kanye tried to clarify it later (something that obviously didn't generate as much media attention). The thing is I truly don't believe he meant that as harm to anybody, he was trying to express controvesial opinions through ill-worded sentences, but I don't think he set out to offend anyone, which makes him different from Roseanne or Trump, since those comparisons keep coming up. While I do agree he shows signs of mental instability, I don't think that was the case here, and I don't think every single thing he does can be reduced to mental instability. Isn't that sad? Kanye is not hurting anyone, but you don't like the things he says so you think he should stop working and making his music since "he doesn't belong on a stage." You are completely misconstruing what I was saying. I am saying he should probably be in treatment and not on the stage not because I disagree with the things he said but because he is mentally ill (which has been confirmed publicly; he has been open about the fact he has bipolar disorder, and about a year and a half ago he was hospitalized), and the celebrity lifestyle seems to be taking a very strong toll on him. Going through successful treatment would enable him to live a more balanced, healthy life to continue being the well-respected, creative artist that he is and to put out (what the public thinks is, I myself not so much anymore) good music. I see what you were trying to say, but saying someone belongs in treatment is kind of harsh, it's again reducing a person to their mental instability. One could seek to get treatment and still continue to work or be creative, I don't think Kanye should stop making music if that's what he wants to do.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jun 9, 2018 7:14:19 GMT -5
LOL Metallica back again, it's certainly like a yo-yo I'd guess it's a ticket/album bundle, yet again.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2018 7:28:33 GMT -5
^Once again, Shawn Mendes has an album with more than a 90% drop in pure sales in its second week. Queen of front-loading.
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Post by Glove Slap on Jun 9, 2018 8:18:07 GMT -5
^Once again, Shawn Mendes has an album with more than a 90% drop in pure sales in its second week. With his record, the softer performance of the lead single, and the bundle, there was no way he wouldn't have a big fall.
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Post by wicked on Jun 9, 2018 13:10:04 GMT -5
^Once again, Shawn Mendes has an album with more than a 90% drop in pure sales in its second week. Queen of front-loading. No, that’s taylor
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