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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jun 4, 2018 12:38:41 GMT -5
Monday, June 4, 2018 Paul Rosenberg and Team Def Jam, having just returned from a whirlwind trip to Wyoming, are noting the numbers of Kanye West's new, highly touted seven-song release.
Seen just before cutting off some rustlers at the pass are (l-r) Rich Isaacson, Marcus “Ike” Ferrer, Scott Greer, Gabe Tesoriero, Rosenberg, Jen Hirsch, Scott Maness, Noah Callahan-Bever, Bruce Carbone and photographer Marcus Hyde.
Kanye West (GOOD/Def Jam) 175-190k total activity, 70-80k album
More new release numbers are expected soon.
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Post by Glove Slap on Jun 4, 2018 12:54:42 GMT -5
If he can hold that range, I'd say it's a really good opening given everything.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jun 4, 2018 12:58:08 GMT -5
^Yeah. Definitely a less messy release than TLOP ...
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Post by DJ General on Jun 4, 2018 13:28:33 GMT -5
Next week should be pretty big with Dave Matthews Band first new studio album in 6 years along with a massive tour bundle.
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Post by Mayman on Jun 4, 2018 13:56:42 GMT -5
That's very good for Kanye considering the album has only 7 songs.
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Post by think pink. on Jun 4, 2018 14:14:25 GMT -5
Can someone explain to me in layman’s terms how albums with 7 songs hinders it’s SPS?
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Jun 4, 2018 14:21:18 GMT -5
Excellent numbers for Kanye
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2018 14:24:54 GMT -5
Can someone explain to me in layman’s terms how albums with 7 songs hinders it’s SPS? Streams of songs count toward overall album units (SPS), so the more songs, the more streams, the more SPS. |
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Post by think pink. on Jun 4, 2018 14:27:36 GMT -5
Can someone explain to me in layman’s terms how albums with 7 songs hinders it’s SPS? Streams of songs count toward album sales (SPS), so the more songs, the more streams, the more SPS. Thanks! |
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Post by Enigma. on Jun 4, 2018 14:31:38 GMT -5
Which still didn't help Rae Sremmurd
It doesn't necessarily go hand in hand with the success. The longer the album is the less people are really listening to it through. I want to believe that 10 songs is still the optimal length
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Post by Wavey✨️ on Jun 4, 2018 14:52:56 GMT -5
According one of Pusha's interviews, he said that Ye was aiming for the Grammy eligible length, which is just 7 Tracks.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2018 14:54:22 GMT -5
i explained it in broad theory and def not a given. i agree that really long albums don't guarantee anything, as people are probably less likely to stream it all. i guess the artist in question plays a role in it too.
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Post by renfield75 on Jun 4, 2018 15:03:38 GMT -5
Which still didn't help Rae Sremmurd It doesn't necessarily go hand in hand with the success. The longer the album is the less people are really listening to it through. I want to believe that 10 songs is still the optimal length I've read theories that the move from vinyl to CD hindered a lot of artists from making "classic' albums because of the 80 minute runtime CDs afforded. Artists could come up with 10-12 strong songs for a 45 minute LP, but started adding filler, remixes, skits and interludes to pad out 80 minutes on a CD, which weakened the album overall. It's not the *worst* theory... |
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Post by Mayman on Jun 4, 2018 15:14:53 GMT -5
I said that mainly because many people listen to an album once to see which songs they don't or do like. A Post album will get 18 streams because their are 18 tracks while the Kanye album gets 7 for the same reason. If people like the entire album, once again its 18 vs. 7 streams.
Its like The Weeknd's latest EP. It had what 6 tracks (can't remember). All of the tracks did well on streaming services but since their was a low amount of tracks, it had a lower amount of SPS than it would have had it been 10 or 15 tracks.
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Post by Troublemaker on Jun 4, 2018 16:15:05 GMT -5
According one of Pusha's interviews, he said that Ye was aiming for the Grammy eligible length, which is just 7 Tracks. Coldplay got nominated last year for an EP with only has 6 tracks |
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Post by Verisimilitude on Jun 4, 2018 16:18:51 GMT -5
Gross.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jun 4, 2018 16:19:23 GMT -5
^Yes, 6 tracks. Interestingly, its actual numbers were slightly lower than those predicted for ye, which, in essence can be accounted for due to it having 1 less track to stream than the latter.
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Post by Wavey✨️ on Jun 4, 2018 16:42:07 GMT -5
According one of Pusha's interviews, he said that Ye was aiming for the Grammy eligible length, which is just 7 Tracks. Coldplay got nominated last year for an EP with only has 6 tracks One of the song lengths most likely helped. |
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Post by Choco on Jun 4, 2018 17:13:28 GMT -5
Great numbers for Kanye, sadly.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jun 4, 2018 17:32:36 GMT -5
Which still didn't help Rae Sremmurd It doesn't necessarily go hand in hand with the success. The longer the album is the less people are really listening to it through. I want to believe that 10 songs is still the optimal length I've read theories that the move from vinyl to CD hindered a lot of artists from making "classic' albums because of the 80 minute runtime CDs afforded. Artists could come up with 10-12 strong songs for a 45 minute LP, but started adding filler, remixes, skits and interludes to pad out 80 minutes on a CD, which weakened the album overall. It's not the *worst* theory... If I made a list of my all-time favourite albums, I'd say most range from 10-13 tracks. There are a few exceptions but I'd say the optimal number of songs is in that range. Most that go over can easily cut down to that and it would improve the album imo. |
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Post by hot100predictions on Jun 4, 2018 17:48:29 GMT -5
ye is not predicted to sell the numbers I thought it would. Is there any chance ye sells around 200k copies instead of the numbers predicted now.
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Jun 4, 2018 18:16:58 GMT -5
i explained it in broad theory and def not a given. i agree that really long albums don't guarantee anything, as people are probably less likely to stream it all. i guess the artist in question plays a role in it too. Oh absolutely. Someone can put out a shitty 21-song album that i can’t even make it through once, or they can put out a 10-track banger that gets repeat streams from me. |
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Post by Mayman on Jun 4, 2018 18:17:03 GMT -5
ye is not predicted to sell the numbers I thought it would. Is there any chance ye sells around 200k copies instead of the numbers predicted now. I doubt it, that's more than 120k from their predictions right now. |
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Post by 85la on Jun 5, 2018 0:12:29 GMT -5
This is very sad, and disgraceful. Either all the Trump supporters have suddenly swapped places with his fanbase, or his fans are clearly looking the other way and being very selective in their wokeness.
It's just the sad state of America... part of me that thinks it's a little bit of everyone's fault for the rise of the deranged autocrat who's in power.
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Post by Enigma. on Jun 5, 2018 1:21:30 GMT -5
He's opening with same numbers than Shawn Mendes, maybe you are overreacting a bit? I mean it's not 850k
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Post by willapted33 on Jun 5, 2018 2:08:01 GMT -5
how is this sad lmao. it's a great album
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Post by aussie1 on Jun 5, 2018 2:11:30 GMT -5
What did TLOP open with?
These numbers are good considering its only 7 tracks.
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Post by Naos on Jun 5, 2018 2:48:01 GMT -5
What did TLOP open with? These numbers are good considering its only 7 tracks. 28,000 sales (94,000 units). |
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Post by tinawina on Jun 5, 2018 11:35:56 GMT -5
I said that mainly because many people listen to an album once to see which songs they don't or do like. A Post album will get 18 streams because their are 18 tracks while the Kanye album gets 7 for the same reason. If people like the entire album, once again its 18 vs. 7 streams. That makes sene. Most people will listen to an album at least once through, and maybe one more time after that to see if they like it. |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jun 5, 2018 17:04:36 GMT -5
hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=312127Tuesday, June 5, 2018 YOU'LL HATE THIS TOP 20, IT'S AWESOMEKanye West's Ye appears headed to collect around 200 million streams in its first week, as the seven-track release heads for a #1 bow on our Top 50 chart. Post Malone's beerbongs and bentleys may log another week over 100k, its sixth, and should now be eligible for double Platinum certification, having collected over 1m in total activity in its first five weeks of release. Luke Combs' deluxe This One's For You lands in the Top 5 with the release of its deluxe version, This One's For You Too. Maroon 5 reappears in the Top 20 after the release last week of the "Girls Like You" video. 1. *Kanye West (G.O.O.D./Def Jam) 205-225k Total Activity, 74-79k Albums 2. Post Malone (Republic) 100-105k, 11-13k 3. *Ghost (Loma Vista/Concord) 49-54k, 46-51k 4. Luke Combs (River House/Columbia Nashville) 48-53k, 23-26k 5. Shawn Mendes (Island) 41-45k, 19-21k 6. Cardi B (Atlantic) 41-45k, 3-4k 7. The Greatest Showman (Atlantic) 38-41k, 23-26k 8. Juice Wrld (Interscope) 36-39k, 1-2k 9. Lil Baby (QC/Motown/Capitol) 34-37k, <1k 10. A$AP Rocky (RCA) 31-34k, 2-3k 11. J. Cole (Dreamville/Roc Nation/Interscope) 27-30k, 3-4k 12. Pusha T (G.O.O.D./Def Jam) 27-30k, 9-11k 13. BTS (BigHit) 26-29k, 11-13k 14. Maroon 5 (222/Interscope) 23-26k, 6-7k 15. Post Malone (Republic) 23-26k, 2-3k 16. Black Panther (TDE/Aftermath/Interscope) 21-24k, 3-4k 17. Migos (QC/Motown/Capitol) 20-23k, <1k 18. Ed Sheeran (Atlantic) 19-22k, 4-5k 19. Imagine Dragons (Kidinakorner/Interscope) 18-21k, 5-6k 20. Taylor Swift (Big Machine/BMLG) 17-20k, 6-7k *DEBUTS
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