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Post by neally on Feb 12, 2007 23:21:54 GMT -5
Immi was a few isles behind her anyway, wasn't she? She was in the seat directly behind Carrie. Carrie was by both her and James Blunt who was behind Imogen before they stood. The person next to Imogen stood up, but Imogen didn't until Carrie had passed. Do you have this video (or the link to this video) ? Thanks
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Post by countrygirl40 on Feb 12, 2007 23:26:05 GMT -5
Goodness people you are starting to convince yourselves you are seeing things that didn't even happen. Why all the Carrie hate? This girl has been nothing but gracious
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Post by shannonk68 on Feb 12, 2007 23:51:41 GMT -5
this is what MSN thought of Carrie's performance and her acceptance speech
I disagree about her performance of desparado...I thought she did that really well....san antonio rose was total crap though...and yes, farmbot was in full glory accepting her trophy for BNA....I esp liked how she basically snatched the mic from natalie Cole's hand and then seemed to think "oh, I better hug her" afterward.
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Post by spencerdoodle on Feb 12, 2007 23:59:46 GMT -5
this is what MSN thought of Carrie's performance and her acceptance speech I disagree about her performance of desparado...I thought she did that really well....san antonio rose was total crap though...and yes, farmbot was in full glory accepting her trophy for BNA....I esp liked how she basically snatched the mic from natalie Cole's hand and then seemed to think "oh, I better hug her" afterward. Farmbot huh? Yea you aint' no poser? right. Why do act like a Carrie fan girl? A fan would not say crap like that, I think there is something wrong with you.
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Post by shannonk68 on Feb 13, 2007 0:12:51 GMT -5
something wrong with me? I'm not the one personally attacking another poster.... btw....my opinion of Carrie THE PERSON changed last night....I won't apologize for it or pretend it didn't...I still like her music....but no, I'm not a fan of the person anymore.... does that make me a poser? okay...but guess what, I still have the right to post my opinion....scroll might become your best friend real quick spencer...
farmbot is a nickname Carrie got during Idol on another message board just like JHud is Boomie.... venture past the sacred walls of pulse forums and you'll see that it's actually a term used often, even by her fans....
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Feb 13, 2007 0:25:35 GMT -5
shannon sweetie, you have been saying you arent a fan of Carrie the person for awhile havent you? What do you mean you JUST started disliking her last night
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Post by shannonk68 on Feb 13, 2007 0:28:47 GMT -5
well LPL...If that's the case then why is anyone surprised that I'd comment on what I perceive as her craptcular behavior at the Grammy's....I think I kept hoping she'd prove me wrong...but alas that's not the case and it cemented my belief that she's a stuck up snot.... oh well....
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Post by ramon168 on Feb 13, 2007 0:53:29 GMT -5
i loved her scream. she went up 5 octaves so quickly, that's impressive. =) go christina!
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Post by neally on Feb 13, 2007 0:53:36 GMT -5
Yeah, I disagree with the MSN review of Desperado, except the the beginning where she started off kind of shaky with the lower register notes, something I think Carrie will improve with time. But man after that iffy beginning, the girl killed the song and sounded nothing short of AMAZING, one of the best renditions I have ever heard of the song.
What bothers me about seeing Carrie at Clive Davis' Pre-Grammy party and the Grammy awards last night is how short and abrupt she was: At Clive's party after her musical set, she was quite abrupt and her facial expression appeared pissed just before the "you guys enjoy your night ", followed by running off stage. (After two really spectacular performances, my first thought about that was WTF ?) I surmised that it was due to the weak applause (which basically every performer received except for maybe Pink) and the fact that she gave her 'thank yous' in between songs.
Next, while being so overjoyed that she took the award, the very initial thing that struck me about her BNA acceptance speech was the lack of shock or tears (as you can see in my posts after all the cheering- LOL), which could possibly have been because of being on a 'performance high' and/or because she thought she was going to win....we'll never know. But, just now, upon watching the acceptance speech for the second and third time, am I the only person who thought she was acting kind of 'diva', grabbing the mic from Natalie Cole, barely hugging her, then to say "I love country music" as her first complete sentence (WTF ???), followed by the obligatory 'thank you' to Simon Fuller as he was her "date" ???
The whole thing just seemed really bizarre to me for a fresh, albeit highly talented, artist coming off of an unbelievable year, one that ANY artist would kill for, to be so flippant at the mic of her first (televised) Grammy award EVER, no less a HUGE award like BNA. (For comparison, check out other BNA acceptance speeches on youtube....very different).
I loved watching the Carrie win Country Vocalist of the Year at CMAs this past year- she looked so genuinely happy and down to earth but unfortunately appeared the polar opposite on the most internationally viewed music awards show in the world....left a bad taste in my mouth and hope it's not a 'diva' sign of the times to come with her. As much as 'Wasted' has grown so much on me, I am really looking forward to her next record and the ground she will hold in the Country world, but I hope these behaviours are just from fatigue from the jam-packed 1-1.5 years she has had and not from a new attitude- time will tell.....
As a huge fan of Carrie, I have expressed my opinion and raised some questions that I would like to hear others responses (not personal attacks) to......I'm very interested in y'all's take on this.
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Post by vivi on Feb 13, 2007 0:57:14 GMT -5
^ i tOtally agree with wat you said about the speech!!
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Post by realityBITES on Feb 13, 2007 0:58:11 GMT -5
Yeah, I disagree with the MSN review of Desperado, except the the beginning where she started off kind of shaky with the lower register notes, something I think Carrie will improve with time. But man after that iffy beginning, the girl killed the song and sounded nothing short of AMAZING, one of the best renditions I have ever heard of the song. What bothers me about seeing Carrie at Clive Davis' Pre-Grammy party and the Grammy awards last night is how short and abrupt she was: At Clive's party after her musical set, she was quite abrupt and her facial expression appeared pissed just before the "you guys enjoy your night ", followed by running off stage. I surmised that it was due to the weak applause (which basically every performer received except for maybe Pink) and the fact that she gave her 'thank yous' in between songs. Next, while being so overjoyed that she took the award, the very initial thing that struck me about her BNA acceptance speech was the lack of shock or tears (as you can see in my posts after all the cheering- LOL), which could possibly have been because of being on a 'performance high' and/or because she thought she was going to win....we'll never know. But, just now, upon watching the acceptance speech for the second and third time, am I the only person who thought she was acting kind of 'diva', grabbing the mic from Natalie Cole, barely hugging her, then to say "I love country music" as her first complete sentence (WTF ???), followed by the obligatory 'thank you' to Simon Fuller as he was her "date" ??? The whole thing just seemed really bizarre to me for a fresh, albeit highly talented, artist coming off of an unbelievable year, one that ANY artist would kill for, to be so flippant at the mic of her first (televised) Grammy award EVER, no less a HUGE award like BNA. (For comparison, check out other BNA acceptance speeches on youtube....very different). I loved watching the Carrie win Country Vocalist of the Year at CMAs this past year- she looked so genuinely happy and down to earth but unfortunately appeared the polar opposite on the most internationally viewed music awards show in the world....left a bad taste in my mouth and hope it's not a 'diva' sign of the times to come with her. As a huge fan of Carrie, I have expressed my opinion and raised some questions that I would like to hear others responses (not personal attacks) to......I'm very interested in y'all's take on this. I think you're reading into it too much. Personally, if you're fan, just enjoy what last night was. If she becomes a diva, she becomes a diva... nothing we can do about that, but not crying when she won or not hugging Natalie Cole doesn't really qualify as a diva. And - to be honest - I think the CMA award meant more to her. Should it have? Who knows. But I think that Female Vocalist of The Year was the happiest I've ever seen her - it was a huge coup and her first major victory.
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Post by reese on Feb 13, 2007 1:01:22 GMT -5
Well, bless your heart. You and Shannon are just the biggest, hugest Carrie fans around. You've made that so clear. *rolls eyes* Kelly has trained you well. Crap on anybody who threatens her popularity and she will show you her butt crack! Sounds like a fair exchange to me.
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Post by neally on Feb 13, 2007 1:03:58 GMT -5
Yeah, I disagree with the MSN review of Desperado, except the the beginning where she started off kind of shaky with the lower register notes, something I think Carrie will improve with time. But man after that iffy beginning, the girl killed the song and sounded nothing short of AMAZING, one of the best renditions I have ever heard of the song. What bothers me about seeing Carrie at Clive Davis' Pre-Grammy party and the Grammy awards last night is how short and abrupt she was: At Clive's party after her musical set, she was quite abrupt and her facial expression appeared pissed just before the "you guys enjoy your night ", followed by running off stage. I surmised that it was due to the weak applause (which basically every performer received except for maybe Pink) and the fact that she gave her 'thank yous' in between songs. Next, while being so overjoyed that she took the award, the very initial thing that struck me about her BNA acceptance speech was the lack of shock or tears (as you can see in my posts after all the cheering- LOL), which could possibly have been because of being on a 'performance high' and/or because she thought she was going to win....we'll never know. But, just now, upon watching the acceptance speech for the second and third time, am I the only person who thought she was acting kind of 'diva', grabbing the mic from Natalie Cole, barely hugging her, then to say "I love country music" as her first complete sentence (WTF ???), followed by the obligatory 'thank you' to Simon Fuller as he was her "date" ??? The whole thing just seemed really bizarre to me for a fresh, albeit highly talented, artist coming off of an unbelievable year, one that ANY artist would kill for, to be so flippant at the mic of her first (televised) Grammy award EVER, no less a HUGE award like BNA. (For comparison, check out other BNA acceptance speeches on youtube....very different). I loved watching the Carrie win Country Vocalist of the Year at CMAs this past year- she looked so genuinely happy and down to earth but unfortunately appeared the polar opposite on the most internationally viewed music awards show in the world....left a bad taste in my mouth and hope it's not a 'diva' sign of the times to come with her. As a huge fan of Carrie, I have expressed my opinion and raised some questions that I would like to hear others responses (not personal attacks) to......I'm very interested in y'all's take on this. I think you're reading into it too much. Personally, if you're fan, just enjoy what last night was. If she becomes a diva, she becomes a diva... nothing we can do about that, but not crying when she won or not hugging Natalie Cole doesn't really qualify as a diva. And - to be honest - I think the CMA award meant more to her. Should it have? Who knows. But I think that Female Vocalist of The Year was the happiest I've ever seen her - it was a huge coup and her first major victory. Well, since I am a fan, I did enjoy the night for what it was (as you can see my postings on here during the live awards show), but as a fan, I am just commenting on how this fan feels in this thread because if I were to post my commentary in Carrie's thread, I might get personal attack responses rather than comments....
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Post by monuda89 on Feb 13, 2007 1:04:01 GMT -5
Come on people. Carrie is a human like all of us. Do we ALWAYs impress people ? Do we always do the right thing everytime? No. So, she might not have 'acted' as emotional but so what? To me, it seemed clear that she was happy and grateful for her win. Gosh, she couldn't take off her smile during and after her speech for god's sake.
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Post by neally on Feb 13, 2007 1:04:48 GMT -5
Well, bless your heart. You and Shannon are just the biggest, hugest Carrie fans around. You've made that so clear. *rolls eyes* Kelly has trained you well. Crap on anybody who threatens her popularity and she will show you her butt crack! Sounds like a fair exchange to me. Kelly ? WTF.....how did Kelly come into this conversation ??? I asked about Carrie, not Kelly (confused by this person's response to me) ???
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Post by realityBITES on Feb 13, 2007 1:07:19 GMT -5
I think you're reading into it too much. Personally, if you're fan, just enjoy what last night was. If she becomes a diva, she becomes a diva... nothing we can do about that, but not crying when she won or not hugging Natalie Cole doesn't really qualify as a diva. And - to be honest - I think the CMA award meant more to her. Should it have? Who knows. But I think that Female Vocalist of The Year was the happiest I've ever seen her - it was a huge coup and her first major victory. Well, since I am a fan, I did enjoy the night for what it was (as you can see my postings on here during the live awards show), but as a fan, I am just commenting on how this fan feels in this thread because if I were to post my commentary in Carrie's thread, I might get personal attack responses rather than comments.... That's cool. I thought my response was civil. You may get personal attacks, but that isn't my style. I don't know if you're a Kelly fan or a Jennifer Hudson fan... but they act (and have acted) as divas pretty much since the beginning. But you know what? It doesn't matter to me. It may matter to you, and that's fine. I love their music. So unless Carrie or Kelly or anyone does something to humiliate themselves or their fans, I'll be a fan - even if they don't thank me (as a fan) every single time or they don't cry when they win every single award.
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Post by neally on Feb 13, 2007 1:12:22 GMT -5
Well, since I am a fan, I did enjoy the night for what it was (as you can see my postings on here during the live awards show), but as a fan, I am just commenting on how this fan feels in this thread because if I were to post my commentary in Carrie's thread, I might get personal attack responses rather than comments.... That's cool. I thought my response was civil. You may get personal attacks, but that isn't my style. I don't know if you're a Kelly fan or a Jennifer Hudson fan... but they act (and have acted) as divas pretty much since the beginning. But you know what? It doesn't matter to me. It may matter to you, and that's fine. I love their music. So unless Carrie or Kelly or anyone does something to humiliate themselves or their fans, I'll be a fan - even if they don't thank me (as a fan) every single time or they don't cry when they win every single award. Cool- yeah, I appreciate your response, it was totally civil, which is why I posted in this thread. In addition to Carrie, from AI, I am a fan of the music Clay, Kelly, and Chris Daughtry. Katharine has been slowly growing on me, but I don't see diva in any of their actions, not even Carrie's except for this past weekend, so maybe I'm just being silly on all this, but just wanted to see if anyone else had my impression. Thanks again for ur response. ;)
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Post by realityBITES on Feb 13, 2007 1:14:18 GMT -5
That's cool. I thought my response was civil. You may get personal attacks, but that isn't my style. I don't know if you're a Kelly fan or a Jennifer Hudson fan... but they act (and have acted) as divas pretty much since the beginning. But you know what? It doesn't matter to me. It may matter to you, and that's fine. I love their music. So unless Carrie or Kelly or anyone does something to humiliate themselves or their fans, I'll be a fan - even if they don't thank me (as a fan) every single time or they don't cry when they win every single award. Cool- yeah, I appreciate your response, it was totally civil, which is why I posted in this thread. In addition to Carrie, from AI, I am a fan of the music Clay, Kelly, and Chris Daughtry. Katharine has been slowly growing on me, but I don't see diva in any of their actions, not even Carrie's except for this past weekend, so maybe I'm just being silly on all this, but just wanted to see if anyone else had my impression. Thanks again for ur response. ;) No problem... now if they pull a Britney, that's ANOTHER story (and for another day)!
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Post by neally on Feb 13, 2007 1:21:07 GMT -5
Cool- yeah, I appreciate your response, it was totally civil, which is why I posted in this thread. In addition to Carrie, from AI, I am a fan of the music Clay, Kelly, and Chris Daughtry. Katharine has been slowly growing on me, but I don't see diva in any of their actions, not even Carrie's except for this past weekend, so maybe I'm just being silly on all this, but just wanted to see if anyone else had my impression. Thanks again for ur response. ;) No problem... now if they pull a Britney, that's ANOTHER story (and for another day)! LOL- High 5 to that one !
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Post by lyrichord on Feb 13, 2007 1:29:16 GMT -5
LMAO at the kelbots zaprudering Carrie's win to find any little thing that they can attempt to construe as controversial. I haven't seen one post by any Carrie fan on her boards criticizing her acceptance speech unless *drum roll* that person is a bigger Kelly fan. Coincidence?
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Post by neally on Feb 13, 2007 1:36:15 GMT -5
LMAO at the kelbots zaprudering Carrie's win to find any little thing that they can attempt to construe as controversial. I haven't seen one post by any Carrie fan on her boards criticizing her acceptance speech unless *drum roll* that person is a bigger Kelly fan. Coincidence? Who specifically are you referring to ?
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Post by jeff on Feb 13, 2007 1:39:57 GMT -5
Next, while being so overjoyed that she took the award, the very initial thing that struck me about her BNA acceptance speech was the lack of shock or tears (as you can see in my posts after all the cheering- LOL), which could possibly have been because of being on a 'performance high' and/or because she thought she was going to win....we'll never know. But, just now, upon watching the acceptance speech for the second and third time, am I the only person who thought she was acting kind of 'diva', grabbing the mic from Natalie Cole, barely hugging her, then to say "I love country music" as her first complete sentence (WTF ???), followed by the obligatory 'thank you' to Simon Fuller as he was her "date" ??? so becos she cried getting FVOTY at the CMAs and didnt cry for the BNA means she is becoming a diva? and for crying out loud, she took the mic from ms cole, what was she supposed to do? stretch out her 2 hands and have ms cole place the mic in her palms??? of course she made the plug for country music, and am dam proud she did i already mentioned several times, she sees the FVOTY award as her biggest prize, just because you think the BNA is a bigger award doesnt mean she has to feel that way. i myself see the FVOTY as bigger and was happier when she won that. to most followers of country, the CMAs and ACMs are the awards to win, not the grammys. i didnt care much about the grammys, i turned off my tv after carrie won, while i watched the whole CMA broadcast... so you know that there are people out there who really think the grammys arent as big as the CMAs
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Post by countrygirl40 on Feb 13, 2007 1:42:42 GMT -5
Thats one persons opinion and this guy is obviously not a country fan, your detest for Carrie and her success is really disturbing. Where you treated badly by a pretty blonde talented girl in school because you have a venom that is truly deep.
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Post by neally on Feb 13, 2007 1:48:30 GMT -5
Next, while being so overjoyed that she took the award, the very initial thing that struck me about her BNA acceptance speech was the lack of shock or tears (as you can see in my posts after all the cheering- LOL), which could possibly have been because of being on a 'performance high' and/or because she thought she was going to win....we'll never know. But, just now, upon watching the acceptance speech for the second and third time, am I the only person who thought she was acting kind of 'diva', grabbing the mic from Natalie Cole, barely hugging her, then to say "I love country music" as her first complete sentence (WTF ???), followed by the obligatory 'thank you' to Simon Fuller as he was her "date" ??? so becos she cried getting FVOTY at the CMAs and didnt cry for the BNA means she is becoming a diva? i already mentioned several times, she sees the FVOTY award as her biggest prize, just because you think the BNA is a bigger award doesnt mean she has to feel that way. i myself see the FVOTY as bigger and was happier when she won that. to most followers of country, the CMAs and ACMs are the awards to win, not the grammys. i didnt care much about the grammys, i turned off my tv after carrie won, while i watched the whole CMA broadcast... so you know that there are people out there who really think the grammys arent as big as the CMAs Thanks for the response....I completely appreciate how she (and likely several country artists) view certain awards from the CMAs as more coveted than any Grammy award. As you can see in my aforementioned post, her lack of tears or shock can easily be explained by several reasons (immediately have performing, maybe thought she had it in the bag, etc- no biggie.), but what I referred to as diva-like is not the lack of crying by any means, but rather the grabbing of the mic from Ms. Cole and then the seeming reluctance to hug her in the infancy of her career (lord knows Carrie will probably will bringing home plenty of awards in the future and back to Ms. Cole- it was her that said "This is great !" before announcing Carrie's name as the BNA winner, injecting her own happiness that Carrie won). Sorry if I was unclear in my original post, but that was what I referred to as possible diva-like behaviour....
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Post by neally on Feb 13, 2007 1:49:43 GMT -5
Thats one persons opinion and this guy is obviously not a country fan, your detest for Carrie and her success is really disturbing. Where you treated badly by a pretty blonde talented girl in school because you have a venom that is truly deep. Who are you referring to ?
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Post by jeff on Feb 13, 2007 1:53:56 GMT -5
so becos she cried getting FVOTY at the CMAs and didnt cry for the BNA means she is becoming a diva? i already mentioned several times, she sees the FVOTY award as her biggest prize, just because you think the BNA is a bigger award doesnt mean she has to feel that way. i myself see the FVOTY as bigger and was happier when she won that. to most followers of country, the CMAs and ACMs are the awards to win, not the grammys. i didnt care much about the grammys, i turned off my tv after carrie won, while i watched the whole CMA broadcast... so you know that there are people out there who really think the grammys arent as big as the CMAs Thanks for the response....I completely appreciate how she (and likely several country artists) view certain awards from the CMAs as more coveted than any Grammy award. As you can see in my aforementioned post, her lack of tears or shock can easily be explained by several reasons (immediately have performing, maybe thought she had it in the bag, etc- no biggie.), but what I referred to as diva-like is not the lack of crying by any means, but rather the grabbing of the mic from Ms. Cole and then the seeming reluctance to hug her (after all- Ms. Cole even said "This is great !" before announcing Carrie's name, injecting her own happiness that Carrie won). Sorry if I was unclear in my original post, but that was what I referred to as possible diva-like behaviour.... obviously you didnt read what i added into my post, so i'll put it here: for crying out loud, she took the mic from ms cole, what was she supposed to do? stretch out her 2 hands and have ms cole place the mic in her palms??? i actually do think she was slightly overwhelemed when her name was announced so she was a little excited. i dont see how one can think there was a reluctance to hug ms cole either. of course she made the plug for country music, and am dam proud she did its tough having people dissect your every move.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Feb 13, 2007 1:58:39 GMT -5
This reminds me of the "AVRIL PUSHED KELLY OMG!" drama
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Post by countrygirl40 on Feb 13, 2007 2:04:13 GMT -5
Carrie did hug Natalie Oh it wasn't a bear hug but it was a hug and I'm sure Carrie was all stoked up from having just performed hence her lack of a tearful and emotional acceptance speech, Also these pictures dont look like someone who is being diva acting or biotchy in anyway. www.carriefans.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67193I don't know the picture after Carrie has the mic after "Grabbing" it out of Natalies hand looks fishy, Hmmmm Natalie has a huge smile on her face, kinda funny look to have after someone has just snatched a mic from you isn't it?
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Post by neally on Feb 13, 2007 2:06:30 GMT -5
Carrie did hug Natalie Oh it wasn't a bear hug but it was a hug and I'm sure Carrie was all stoked up from having just performed hence her lack of a tearful and emotional acceptance speech, Also these pictures dont look like someone who is being diva acting or biotchy in anyway. www.carriefans.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67193I don't know the picture after Carrie has the mic after "Grabbing" it out of Natalies hand looks fishy, Hmmmm Natalie has a huge smile on her face, kinda funny look to have after someone has just snatched a mic from you isn't it? ummm...okay..... Are you going to answer my question to your next to last post ?
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Post by countrygirl40 on Feb 13, 2007 2:09:18 GMT -5
Carrie did hug Natalie Oh it wasn't a bear hug but it was a hug and I'm sure Carrie was all stoked up from having just performed hence her lack of a tearful and emotional acceptance speech, Also these pictures dont look like someone who is being diva acting or biotchy in anyway. www.carriefans.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67193I don't know the picture after Carrie has the mic after "Grabbing" it out of Natalies hand looks fishy, Hmmmm Natalie has a huge smile on her face, kinda funny look to have after someone has just snatched a mic from you isn't it? ummm...okay..... Are you going to answer my question to your next to last post ? Oh Goodness I missed your post after mine, I'm sorry. That in no way was directed to you, that was directed to our "Was a Carrie fan till last night" poster.
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