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Post by PHOBES on Dec 9, 2008 19:43:56 GMT -5
Thank God they're finally going to release this. It was mentioned in a press release (and a blog on their site) that this song would be going to Top 40 radio in January. "Second Chance" is the second single from their third studio album, The Sound of Madness
Most of you probably aren't very familiar with these guys, but they did have one top 40 hit a couple years ago with "I Dare You," the second single off their previous album, Us & Them. IDY got a nice push thanks to a performance by Chris Daughtry on American Idol, afterward the song peaked in the 30s on the CHR/Top 40 Chart.
Active Rock is their core format though, of the nine singles they've released in their career, ALL of them have hit the top 5. This one, currently sits at number 2 and by next week could very easily become their 3rd number one hit.
One video is already out, and it is based on footage and stories that their fans sent them about their "Second Chances." Though the band put the video together, it is not considered the official video, they plan on filming that in the next month. Hopefully this takes off and we can hear some decent rock music on the airwaves. I can only take but so much Nickelback, Hinder, and Saving Abel.
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Post by aTunes on Dec 9, 2008 19:59:35 GMT -5
This is a good rock song, but I don't know about pop crossover. They're just not really a top 40 appealing band, which is fine by the way. That said, I think this is more CHR friendly than IDY, but like Phobia said, IDY had the AI exposure to help it. I'd be pleasantly surprised to see this crossover though, if it does do it.
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Post by Cody on Dec 9, 2008 20:03:27 GMT -5
This sounds great for pop actually. If I Dare You made it, this should too
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Post by aTunes on Dec 9, 2008 20:07:54 GMT -5
This sounds great for pop actually. If I Dare You made it, this should too You would think this would go higher than #31 (where IDY peaked), but it won't have the push IDY got either so who knows. I just don't find the chorus catchy enough for pop radio to really latch onto. The pre-chorus has a better hook than the chorus for pop, imo. |
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Post by borlando on Dec 9, 2008 20:58:24 GMT -5
love this song, happy theyre sending it to pop. i can actually see this doing real well here..after seeing songs like addicted and lovers in japan have success, this should do particularly well. imo top 30 is a good possibility.
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Post by Bluemargay on Dec 9, 2008 22:01:05 GMT -5
Yes this is perfect.
You can't make assumptions on what would be a hit. Think Addicted. Also Never Too Late was a decent pop hit
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Post by blurple on Dec 9, 2008 23:50:27 GMT -5
Finally LOL. Heck, in my perfect world, I would hear "Devour" at my Top 40 station but yeah I'll settle for this.  Yeah, this should do better than IDY because it's softer but... IMO IDY has a catchier hook and like "Never Too Late" this one has a very depressing tone to it. |
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Post by PHOBES on Dec 10, 2008 0:01:48 GMT -5
I don't see why this won't do well. Lately Pop radio has been a bit more receptive to Rock and Alternative songs. Though they sound completely different, a good example of this would be Coldplay's "Lovers In Japan." Who actually thought that would chart? It may be low but still...
Just in the last year: Blue October, Three Days Grace, Seether, Coldplay, Flyleaf, and as much as I hate them, Buckcherry, Saving Abel, and Hinder have all had success on the pop chart. Even Theory of a Deadman's Bad Girlfriend is getting a few spins. I think the door is open for a rock song to breakthrough and make a big impact. Never Too Late should've been that song, but I think now radio is even more receptive to that idea.
Perhaps I'm too optimistic, but I think that with the right promotion this could easily go top 20. I'm expecting a top 40 performance, but I would be thrilled with top 30.
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Post by PHOBES on Dec 10, 2008 0:02:33 GMT -5
Finally LOL. Heck, in my perfect world, I would hear "Devour" at my Top 40 station but yeah I'll settle for this. On a side note, that video in your avatar is hilarious  |
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Post by blurple on Dec 10, 2008 0:35:49 GMT -5
Finally LOL. Heck, in my perfect world, I would hear "Devour" at my Top 40 station but yeah I'll settle for this. On a side note, that video in your avatar is hilarious Thanks! ;) |
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Post by Juanca on Dec 10, 2008 0:45:54 GMT -5
NICE!
I remember "I Dare You". Good song.
And this is a good song, too. Definitely miles better than Addicted or Sorry or Without You.
This could/should go Top 20. The sound of the strings helps with the song's Pop appeal IMO.
I also thought that Shattered was gonna reach Top 20 but it got stuck, but I hope this one can make it.
Thanks Phobia for the info!
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Post by borlando on Dec 10, 2008 0:47:09 GMT -5
I don't see why this won't do well. Lately Pop radio has been a bit more receptive to Rock and Alternative songs. Though they sound completely different, a good example of this would be Coldplay's "Lovers In Japan." Who actually thought that would chart? It may be low but still... Just in the last year: Blue October, Three Days Grace, Seether, Coldplay, Flyleaf, and as much as I hate them, Buckcherry, Saving Abel, and Hinder have all had success on the pop chart. Even Theory of a Deadman's Bad Girlfriend is getting a few spins. I think the door is open for a rock song to breakthrough and make a big impact. Never Too Late should've been that song, but I think now radio is even more receptive to that idea. Perhaps I'm too optimistic, but I think that with the right promotion this could easily go top 20. I'm expecting a top 40 performance, but I would be thrilled with top 30. yeah dude u summed it up perfectly..another song to out watch for is "love hurts" by incubus. just skyrocketing up alt and sounds nearly as pop friendly as "drive." |
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Post by aTunes on Dec 10, 2008 1:38:00 GMT -5
I don't see why this won't do well. Lately Pop radio has been a bit more receptive to Rock and Alternative songs. Though they sound completely different, a good example of this would be Coldplay's "Lovers In Japan." Who actually thought that would chart? It may be low but still... Just in the last year: Blue October, Three Days Grace, Seether, Coldplay, Flyleaf, and as much as I hate them, Buckcherry, Saving Abel, and Hinder have all had success on the pop chart. Even Theory of a Deadman's Bad Girlfriend is getting a few spins. I think the door is open for a rock song to breakthrough and make a big impact. Never Too Late should've been that song, but I think now radio is even more receptive to that idea. Perhaps I'm too optimistic, but I think that with the right promotion this could easily go top 20. I'm expecting a top 40 performance, but I would be thrilled with top 30. yeah dude u summed it up perfectly..another song to out watch for is "love hurts" by incubus. just skyrocketing up alt and sounds nearly as pop friendly as "drive." Now that I 100% agree with. LH is about as sure of a pop crossover as you can get for a rock/alt song, imo. It will be a travesty if it never gets an adds date. Right now I'm going to guess a #25 ish peak for this. |
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Post by Jorge_Str [Som3on3] on Dec 10, 2008 10:23:42 GMT -5
their best from the album, deserves something really high in here too
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Post by MOWE on Dec 10, 2008 14:07:01 GMT -5
Most of you probably aren't very familiar with these guys, but they did have one top 40 hit a couple years ago with "I Dare You," the second single off their previous album, Us & Them. IDY got a nice push thanks to a performance by Chris Daughtry on American Idol, afterward the song peaked in the 30s on the CHR/Top 40 Chart. I remember 'IDY!' I liked that song alot. Good to hear from this band again on Pop. |
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Post by PHOBES on Dec 11, 2008 14:28:54 GMT -5
This has reached a new peak on Billboard's Mainstream Rock Chart. It moved up one spot on the Mainstream chart to number 2, and moved down one spot on the Modern Rock chart to number 6. It still has a good bullet on alternative, and it even increased in plays. The only reason it fell out of the top 5 is because alternative staple Incubus is climbing up the chart with "Love Hurts." My guess is ithat "Second Chance" will peak at number four there.
Current Peaks:
Mainstream Rock #2
Modern Rock #5
Hot 100 #91
Canadian Hot 100 #91
Interestingly enough, last week this song debuted on both the U.S. and Canadian Hot 100's at 98 and 96 respectively. With Apocalyptica and Adam Gontier's "I Don't Care" losing steam, my money is that next week this will be the number one Mainstream Rock song in the country.
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Post by PHOBES on Dec 13, 2008 2:11:27 GMT -5
This already getting some notice on itunes. It's up to number 100, I know that doesn't sound like much but I don't recall them ever having much success on itunes or in downloads in general.
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Post by atlantaboy on Dec 14, 2008 9:50:43 GMT -5
This sounds great for pop actually. If I Dare You made it, this should too Yeah IMO CHR really needs this right now, and don't think it'll burn as quickly as I Dare You did... |
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Post by fran182 on Dec 14, 2008 9:57:48 GMT -5
This is much better than I Dare You imo.
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Post by Jorge_Str [Som3on3] on Dec 14, 2008 13:39:34 GMT -5
This is much better than I Dare You imo. say that again |
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Post by PHOBES on Dec 14, 2008 13:50:56 GMT -5
This is much more pop-friendly than I Dare You imo. |
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Post by Adam (UTR) on Dec 14, 2008 22:26:17 GMT -5
119 99 SHINEDOWN Second Chance Atlantic 41 29 12 0.083
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Post by Cody on Dec 14, 2008 23:14:03 GMT -5
This is much more pop-friendly than I Dare You imo. |
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Post by PHOBES on Dec 15, 2008 1:02:38 GMT -5
119 99 SHINEDOWN Second Chance Atlantic 41 29 12 0.083 Wow, that's unexpected, thanks for the numbers. They said on their site that it's not going for adds until next month, if that's the case, then this is really good news. Maybe with the recent itunes success and the fact that it's about to go to #1 on Active Rock made the label decide to make an early push. |
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Post by Pipa on Dec 15, 2008 9:40:29 GMT -5
This is much better and much more pop-friendly than I Dare You imo. |
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Post by fran182 on Dec 15, 2008 15:08:17 GMT -5
119 99 SHINEDOWN Second Chance Atlantic 41 29 12 0.083 Wow, that's unexpected, thanks for the numbers. They said on their site that it's not going for adds until next month, if that's the case, then this is really good news. Maybe with the recent itunes success and the fact that it's about to go to #1 on Active Rock made the label decide to make an early push. Great! It's also #74 on Itunes top 100 songs. |
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Post by fran182 on Dec 15, 2008 15:09:26 GMT -5
This is much better,much more pop-friendly and much more rock-friendly than I Dare You imo.
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Post by sam998899 on Dec 21, 2008 20:33:40 GMT -5
YES!
I love this song!!!
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Post by borlando on Dec 22, 2008 0:04:53 GMT -5
i found i dare you very pop-friendly, but i would have to agree this has a slight edge. really a fantastic song..the vocals and progression are incredible. wouldnt surprise me if this went top 20
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Post by fran182 on Dec 22, 2008 15:06:33 GMT -5
I have a feeling that this will hit top 30 at least!
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