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Post by Rumors on May 30, 2009 7:39:33 GMT -5
madmike, please don't take this personally because I actually come into this thread to read your posts. You seem to know your stuff and have a lot of information. But where exactly are you getting your information? Do you have access to some radio tracking sites that us regular folks don't or is all this information being shared on Elliot's sites by his management? I'm really curious as I would love to know where you are getting information on call requests, etc. I know I used to be able to see a song's spin total broken down by night spins, evening, daytime, etc. on mediabase but lost access to that. You obviously still have access to that type of information. Is that also where you are getting comments from DJs/PDs about how a song is doing on their station, etc? Any links to good sites that you use that anyone can access would be appreciated.
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Post by madmike125 on May 30, 2009 8:37:39 GMT -5
madmike, please don't take this personally because I actually come into this thread to read your posts. You seem to know your stuff and have a lot of information. But where exactly are you getting your information? Do you have access to some radio tracking sites that us regular folks don't or is all this information being shared on Elliot's sites by his management? I'm really curious as I would love to know where you are getting information on call requests, etc. I know I used to be able to see a song's spin total broken down by night spins, evening, daytime, etc. on mediabase but lost access to that. You obviously still have access to that type of information. Is that also where you are getting comments from DJs/PDs about how a song is doing on their station, etc? Any links to good sites that you use that anyone can access would be appreciated. Honestly? It's a little bit of both. I do know Elliott and his team, so I get some info from them; but a lot of it is not that hard to find. I'm trying to be optimistic, but yesterday was a really bad spin day. Now today, he already has 4 spins in Reno and 3 in Santa Rosa, and it's not even 6:30 yet. Here are my main areas of getting information: General All Access. You find chart into, taking off, spincrease, Street Pulse which shows how the album is doing relative to other artists getting playing in that genre. www.allaccess.com/Note: You'll need to register Hot Picks: www.allaccess.com/site/hotPicks/index.php?bs=sk&sn=hotPicks&d=top40M&f=body&ng=top40M&ag=80Daily Chart: www.mmr247.com/mmrweb/Reports/Reg/EMD.asp?SOngID=1637878&NumDays=1Week by Week chart: www.mmr247.com/mmrweb/Reports/Reg/EMD.asp?SOngID=1637878&NumDays=7Track spins that report to Yes.com: www.yes.com/#Elliott_YaminTrack most spins that don't report to yes.com playback.mediabase.com/player_blue.asp?StationID=You need to add the specific call letters to after the = sign. For example, if you're looking for Reno, you add KWYL Another spin tracker: www.tunegenie.com/Hits Daily Double: www.hitsdailydouble.com/home/home.cgiNote: You'll need to register
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Post by Rumors on May 30, 2009 8:42:47 GMT -5
Wow, madmike, thank you so much for that information. Hopefully, I'll have some time this weekend to check out the sites you posted. :) On the plus side, Elliot's video was just on the VH1 countdown.
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Post by madmike125 on May 30, 2009 8:48:45 GMT -5
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Post by madmike125 on May 30, 2009 9:20:50 GMT -5
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Post by bluebomb on May 30, 2009 10:04:22 GMT -5
364 spins (-9) Bullet: +3 (-15) Audience 1.687 (-0.002)
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Post by CowboysForever9 on May 30, 2009 13:46:29 GMT -5
I noticed a lot of stuff had some funky updates yesterday. Good to know it's not just Elliott.
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Post by bluebomb on May 31, 2009 0:40:35 GMT -5
Afternoon update:
368 spins (+4 compared with this morning, -5 compared with yesterday morning) Bullet: +7 (compared with +3 this morning) Audience: 1.698 (+0.011 compared with this morning, +0.009 with yesterday morning)
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Post by tj on May 31, 2009 2:57:17 GMT -5
the new album is so good. he deserves more success
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Post by rfucom on May 31, 2009 3:01:44 GMT -5
the last album is better IMHO
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Post by madmike125 on May 31, 2009 7:39:15 GMT -5
Quick Cut says 376, I'm estimating 350 Enough to make top 50? I guess we'll find out later.
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Post by madmike125 on May 31, 2009 7:49:22 GMT -5
the last album is better IMHO You're probably one of the only ones that think so. I think people are mad that he became a pop artist. People wanted him to go down the Donny Hathaway path. I think he has time for that, but he had a taste of the sweet life with WFY and doesn't want to give it up. His voice is one of the best male voices out there. He deserves success, but will radio give it to him? His comments on youtube have been nothing but positive. Everything I read about the song seems to be positive. DJs say they love it, but obviously they need permission from their PD to play it. I think Know Better and Apart From Me could be huge on radio.
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Post by bluebomb on May 31, 2009 8:29:45 GMT -5
Going by morning update:
376 spins (+12) Bullet: +20 (+17) Audience 1.723 (+0.034)
Elliott needs to have a really good afternoon update to have a strong chance of getting into the top 50.
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Post by Kishi KCM on May 31, 2009 8:31:51 GMT -5
OMG, these stations MUST add this song!! I hope the audience and the spins continue to increase.
At least it outpeaked One Word, hehe. :)
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Post by madmike125 on May 31, 2009 8:39:30 GMT -5
OMG, these stations MUST add this song!! I hope the audience and the spins continue to increase. At least it outpeaked One Word, hehe. :) I hate to admit it, but OW peaked at 47 If OW outpeaks this I'd be floored. He should have re-released Movin' On.
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Post by Kishi KCM on May 31, 2009 14:46:48 GMT -5
Oh shoot. I feel so unsmart right now! But you're correct. I guess maybe it's doing better in audience that OW did.
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Post by WouldYouJumpTheGDTrainAlready? on May 31, 2009 15:23:38 GMT -5
I know, Movin' On was my jam!! However, FFL is my new jam :) so I really hope more people get to hear it.
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Post by madmike125 on May 31, 2009 17:54:23 GMT -5
Didn't make top 50. If Eminem was purged, I think he would have. He missed by 11 spins
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Post by street on May 31, 2009 18:15:38 GMT -5
Song has a bigger AI than four of the songs from 40-50. Which counts for other charts but not Mediabase.
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Post by madmike125 on May 31, 2009 18:18:46 GMT -5
I just looked at the chart. FFL has better AI than 4 of the songs in the top 50
Seether, Cook, Carolina Liar, and Tina Parol
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Post by madmike125 on May 31, 2009 18:19:59 GMT -5
Song has a bigger AI than four of the songs from 40-50. Which counts for other charts but not Mediabase. lol, two great minds think alike
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Post by street on May 31, 2009 18:34:18 GMT -5
At this rate the song will hit the Top 50 by July 3rd and Top 40 by December, 2010. Serious, question. What are the rules for purging a song? Are they different for songs inside/outside top 40?
Better news for Elliott, the song released as the single in Japan (You Say) is #8 on their Billboard Hot 100.
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Post by realityBITES on May 31, 2009 19:10:49 GMT -5
Poor guy :( This is when that major recording deal would help -- promo!
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Post by Hefty Hanna on May 31, 2009 19:14:29 GMT -5
I want this to go Top 40 so badly.
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Post by street on May 31, 2009 19:41:53 GMT -5
Elliott in Japan is backed by a real label with some muscle. So he gets decent promo. In the states, unfortunately he's really an indie and that makes radio very tough.
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Post by Gravity. on May 31, 2009 20:30:58 GMT -5
I love this song, it's sad that it's not taking it off at all really. All of my friends that I've played this for have really liked it, and we're requesting it like crazy around here.
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Post by rfucom on May 31, 2009 20:39:26 GMT -5
I thougth this will enter top 50 already :(
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Post by CowboysForever9 on May 31, 2009 21:33:46 GMT -5
Cool to see You Say doing well somewhere. When I first heard the track I thought it had a ton of potential immediately and it's one of, if not my favorite, on the album.
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Post by onefrayedrepublic on May 31, 2009 22:09:36 GMT -5
Swag, Miami, Tina Parol and Feeling will all pass Yamin, and Yamin is unlikely to pass Looking For, Star, or Lovetakeover... thus this won't go top 50 this week. Ding! Ding! Ding! This snoozefest didn't go top 50 this week and hopefully it won't ever. Wait For You was alright but no need to pollute what little cred he has with this pap. At least he can go out as a guy with a nice one hit wonder.
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Post by bluebomb on Jun 1, 2009 3:16:02 GMT -5
Ding! Ding! Ding! This snoozefest didn't go top 50 this week and hopefully it won't ever. Wait For You was alright but no need to pollute what little cred he has with this pap. At least he can go out as a guy with a nice one hit wonder. LOL. ------- rfu, as long as this keeps gaining spins, placement shouldn't be much of a worry. It would have been nice to see this in the top 50 for one day though. I think PD's would take more notice if it had been.
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