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Post by KMJ1 on Jun 9, 2009 23:11:59 GMT -5
thanks. all im saying -- and this is complimentary to Mariah and her management or whoever -- they have always been ace when it came to timing of her single releases. One can say it was all Tommy Motolla, Sony etc..but no matter what record company Mimi has gone too, there's blatantly this recurring pattern that she's extremely driven (more than anyone else i can think of lol) to make sure #1 singles happen.
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Post by Tabitha on Jun 9, 2009 23:13:44 GMT -5
when she was with tommy, she deserved all her #1's they went multiple weeks at #1 cept for my all. Since rainbow...... all I have to say is Loverboy on sale for .49 cents
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Post by KMJ1 on Jun 9, 2009 23:17:11 GMT -5
^ lmao!! I sooo vividly remember that -- seeing that .49 cent single in all the record stores and yet there are many lambs/fans who DENY that to this day! Mariah even denied it on a MTV interview ith John Norris in 2002 or '03 lol. not an exact quote but she said something like only the 'remixes'/maxi or what not, were at a lower rate but not the main single itself LOL. crazzzzy!
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Post by Tabitha on Jun 9, 2009 23:22:23 GMT -5
BITCH DID IT 4 TIMES! Loverboy, TGIFY (maybe..?), DFAU, TMB she repressed those singles but DFAU deserved her #1. others... i dunno. TMB shot up but it shot down just as fast. TGIFY...
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Post by El Chiko Kevo on Jun 9, 2009 23:30:16 GMT -5
she's so cliche!!! BORING
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Post by iMustConfess on Jun 9, 2009 23:31:27 GMT -5
Tabita, what are you trying to prove? LOL The songs went #1 that's what matters. Saying they don't deserve because they were repressed is ridiculous because obviously if it didn't deserve #1 the people who downloaded the track wouldn't have made it go #1. The only point I see you making is that her digital sales are weak, but even that you can't say. Digital sales in 2005/2006 were low generally. Just look at the old charts. On top of that of course her album was selling, so why worry about how low the single was? A sextuplet platinum album and being #1of 2005 was nothing to cry about. Repressing was actually smart for the label considering the rate the album was selling. As for the last era and weak digital sales, well you saw how the era went. It wasn't going to be a huge era with Triple platinum singles. This time around however, she may just do it. :) Anyways, well looks like it's upbeat. Not too bad. God, now my week will feel long as hell.
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Post by jazzyskye10² on Jun 9, 2009 23:34:36 GMT -5
I can't wait to hear this song. LMAO @ the usual #1's nonsense pertaining to Mariah- and most say that she is the one who's obsessed with how many #1's she has. A #1 is a number one. Doesn't matter how it happened just know that it did.
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Post by Tabitha on Jun 9, 2009 23:37:19 GMT -5
Tabita, what are you trying to prove? LOL The songs went #1 that's what matters. Saying they don't deserve because they were repressed is ridiculous because obviously if it didn't deserve #1 the people who downloaded the track wouldn't have made it go #1. The only point I see you making is that her digital sales are weak, but even that you can't say. Digital sales in 2005/2006 were low generally. Just look at the old charts. On top of that of course her album was selling, so why worry about how low the single was? A sextuplet platinum album and being #1of 2005 was nothing to cry about. Repressing was actually smart for the label considering the rate the album was selling. As for the last era and weak digital sales, well you saw how the era went. It wasn't going to be a huge era with Triple platinum singles. This time around however, she may just do it. :) Anyways, well looks like it's upbeat. Not too bad. God, now my week will feel long as hell. :o >:( bitch i was saying that mimi has been repressing her singles to go #1 since 2000. don't make me flip my weave!! About half of her #1 singles since 2000 were repressed to go #1 for sure. its obvious. Her singles since rainbow only have 2 weeks max (cept WBT) compared to 4 (median) prior to her repressing her songs. they have a quick peak and then burn fast
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Post by TYRONE™ on Jun 9, 2009 23:37:46 GMT -5
I don't see what point people are trying to make when they say Loverboy was only 49 cents Since when is it cheating to lower prices on your songs? LOL. The charts are a game. Her label never made any illegal moves. A #1 is a #1.
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Post by Tabitha on Jun 9, 2009 23:40:55 GMT -5
mimi wants her that record but some can say it matters because she is using different methods to guarantee her #1s compared to the Beatles or Elvis who did not use chart manipulation but had to go up the chart and peak - not repress sales until a #1 came. im done with this argument. hope this song is hot.
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Post by JamaicaFunk² on Jun 9, 2009 23:41:19 GMT -5
I don't see what point people are trying to make when they say Loverboy was only 49 cents Since when is it cheating to lower prices on your songs? LOL. The charts are a game. Her label never made any illegal moves. A #1 is a #1. And Loverboy didn't go to #1 anyways. So what does the cost matter?
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Post by rfucom on Jun 9, 2009 23:44:19 GMT -5
LOL stop arguing, repressed or not Mariah still can produce great songs and thats what matters IMO.
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Post by cking33 on Jun 9, 2009 23:45:28 GMT -5
Both TMB and DFAU would've been #1 without repressed downloads. To say neither of them would is just not smart. In DFAU's case, it had already made it to #2 WITHOUT ANY HELP FROM DOWNLOADS. That was based on airplay alone. If it even had a small amount of downloads, it would've been #1. In fact, by repressing downloads, they may have cost it more weeks at #1. In TMB's case, look at the 2nd week it spent at #1. With as big of an airplay hit as TMB was, it could've easily gotten to #1 without repressing downloads and when it was no longer #1 at downloads, it still managed to pull off a 2nd week at #1. To say they wouldn't have gotten there is just not true. Repressing downloads just eliminates the drama from the equation. DFAU probably would have been #1 however, TMB!!! No way in hell. TMB has only sold 1.2 million digital downloads to date. that is low as hell. Look at the #1s at the time of TMB. Love in this club, bleeding love, lollipop. All had huge sales and eventually airplay. Mimi does not have strong sales period unless repressed. Bleeding love retook the top spot from TMB quick. you know that is sad. Mimi had her 200+ weeks and then dropped off quick. I love moo moo but I am honest. sorry. I still say that 2nd week proved it could've been #1 without repressed downloads. We don't know how it would've done if they just released them at the beginning, but as such, the song still went to #1.
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Post by hidizzyguy on Jun 9, 2009 23:48:40 GMT -5
I hate how people say she repressed her songs to guarantee her a #1 song......... as if it's possible for every other artist out there to follow the same technique. Oh, you want a #1 song, well, sure, no problem, just repress your single.
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Post by iMustConfess on Jun 9, 2009 23:50:21 GMT -5
Tabita, what are you trying to prove? LOL The songs went #1 that's what matters. Saying they don't deserve because they were repressed is ridiculous because obviously if it didn't deserve #1 the people who downloaded the track wouldn't have made it go #1. The only point I see you making is that her digital sales are weak, but even that you can't say. Digital sales in 2005/2006 were low generally. Just look at the old charts. On top of that of course her album was selling, so why worry about how low the single was? A sextuplet platinum album and being #1of 2005 was nothing to cry about. Repressing was actually smart for the label considering the rate the album was selling. As for the last era and weak digital sales, well you saw how the era went. It wasn't going to be a huge era with Triple platinum singles. This time around however, she may just do it. :) Anyways, well looks like it's upbeat. Not too bad. God, now my week will feel long as hell. :o >:( b***h i was saying that mimi has been repressing her singles to go #1 since 2000. don't make me flip my weave!! About half of her #1 singles since 2000 were repressed to go #1 for sure. its obvious. Her singles since rainbow only have 2 weeks max (cept WBT) compared to 4 (median) prior to her repressing her songs. they have a quick peak and then burn fast Well we confirm you're wrong about her sales. So, you're still not making any sense, LOL. Since 2000, she has had only 3 songs go #1. "We Belong Together" didn't peak and burn, it had over 223M impressions enough to have a #1 alone. And of course it didn't burn. "Don't Forget About Us", as already stated, reached #2 on the Hot 100 before it went digitally so it could have also done the same without digital help. And again, it didn't peak and burn off after it went #1. So your theory of "cheating" to #1 is only provable with "Touch My Body", and even then it was the first single. How many first singles release their airplay along with digital at the same time? Not that many. Those who do want to quickly reach #1 if it seems likely they won't achieve it later (Womanizer, 4 Minutes, etc.) It's procedure to allow airplay to grow if you're that kind of artist. Also, "Thank God I Found You" achieved it's #1 "respectfully" in your theory. Only adding this sent it went #1 in 2000 ;) As for Elvis and The Beatles not using "manipulation", PLEASE. It's not manipulation. It's called a change in times. Jesus, you're psycho.
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Post by bradley on Jun 9, 2009 23:52:14 GMT -5
I hate how people say she repressed her songs to guarantee her a #1 song......... as if it's possible for every other artist out there to follow the same technique. Oh, you want a #1 song, well, sure, no problem, just repress your single. That's because almost every other artist prefers a huge hit with lots of sales which = lots of $$$$ Mariah only cares about #1 singles so she can beat the Beatles records and it's quite evident by all those twitter updates from her friends/IDJ people. That's why she always represses and not many other artists do.
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Post by hidizzyguy on Jun 9, 2009 23:53:40 GMT -5
HELLA ARTISTS DO!
Sit down with your confused facts.
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Post by iMustConfess on Jun 9, 2009 23:55:17 GMT -5
She also does it because she can sell an album, when everything is going right. So wanting a #1 and not caring for the aftermath is understandable. Although her airplay is always good enough to sustain her Hot 100 points for the year-end.
Also, she's not from this era (00s) so for artists like her repressing is a big thing if they are still popular enough since they can sell CDs. Whitney will do the same come her single release.
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Post by hidizzyguy on Jun 9, 2009 23:57:20 GMT -5
And what mainstream artist, in this chart and itune driven industry, DOESN'T want a #1 song?.....huh?, tell me?
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Post by ₫anny Jerz ♔ on Jun 9, 2009 23:59:16 GMT -5
LOL at all of this bickering when we haven't even heard the song yet. Only on Pulse.
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Post by ZigaZigHa on Jun 10, 2009 0:39:43 GMT -5
Glad this is uptempo. I hope this is as hot if not better than Migrate.
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Post by aTunes on Jun 10, 2009 1:29:47 GMT -5
^Speaking of Migrate, the label should pull a Britney and put Migrate on the album and then release it sometime during this era. I will never get over that song not being a single, unless it finally is.
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Post by iMustConfess on Jun 10, 2009 1:48:54 GMT -5
"Migrate" is dry now, and it got dry only a month after the album came out. Thank God they didn't release. Would've been her biggest flop, let alone the media/blogs would eat her alive for attempting w/T-Pain.
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Post by aTunes on Jun 10, 2009 1:50:11 GMT -5
Migrate would of EASILY been the biggest hit from that album. Period. No argument is optional.
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Post by rfucom on Jun 10, 2009 1:52:02 GMT -5
Migrate would of EASILY been the biggest hit from that album. Period. No argument is optional. haha. Funny conversation. But i think I stay in love would be a hit (Only left hit in that album) if they release it strategicaly i think after TMB.
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Post by Taylor. on Jun 10, 2009 1:52:40 GMT -5
Migrate would of have EASILY been the biggest hit from that album. Period. No argument is optional. Fixed. Sorry, I'm a grammar nazi. LOL. I don't have high hopes for this song.
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Post by iMustConfess on Jun 10, 2009 1:53:27 GMT -5
Migrate would of EASILY been the biggest hit from that album. Period. No argument is optional. I would have agreed with you if it were released instead of "Bye Bye". But after that, it was never going to be the hit people expected.
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Post by survivorqt on Jun 10, 2009 2:17:20 GMT -5
fergie had a unique strategy to getting #1s also, pullin singles from iTunes for 2 weeks then putting them back on again
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Post by vinyl on Jun 10, 2009 2:22:47 GMT -5
fergie had a unique strategy to getting #1s also, pullin singles from iTunes for 2 weeks then putting them back on again I think that was to boost album sales more than anything else.
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Post by Taste It On My Tongue on Jun 10, 2009 3:35:50 GMT -5
"Obsessed"?? Sounds like this will fit right in with her other stalker songs. lol.
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