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Post by metalfan87 on Jul 30, 2009 18:30:41 GMT -5
from tunelab:
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Jul 30, 2009 19:30:11 GMT -5
completely unshocked by this and will not only do well on rock but will most likely crossover again to CHR. As much I loved Second Chance, I actually thought this had better crossover appeal when I first listened to the album. This album may be one of the very best commerical albums of the last 5-10 years with the accessibility to all music fans.
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Post by Ron57 on Jul 30, 2009 19:55:35 GMT -5
Ehh.
Was hoping for Breaking Inside or Call Me. D:
But this should do well.
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Post by mcbrearty on Jul 30, 2009 20:04:29 GMT -5
This is really good. Not sure if this will get anywhere near the success "Second Chance" did but it has potential.
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Post by Gravity on Jul 30, 2009 20:16:28 GMT -5
The whole album bleeds potential. I think any of the songs would be good singles at this point, especially since radio eats Shinedown up.
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Post by Cody on Jul 30, 2009 21:02:31 GMT -5
best choice possible, love it
top 5 on Active, top 5 on Hot AC, top 10 on Alternative, top 20 on CHR here it comes
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Post by Gravity. on Jul 30, 2009 21:18:46 GMT -5
Predictable choice, but I love it anyway.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jul 30, 2009 21:34:41 GMT -5
Blah. Biggest snooze-fest of the album imo.
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Post by pen on Jul 30, 2009 22:48:07 GMT -5
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Post by pen on Jul 30, 2009 22:48:24 GMT -5
And who called it? Who called it? Me, motherfucker.
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Post by Jorge_Str [Som3on3] on Jul 30, 2009 23:00:22 GMT -5
This album may be one of the very best commerical albums of the last 5-10 years with the accessibility to all music fans. ;) i must agree with that i'm very happy they decided to release this as their 4th single, i thought breaking inside or call me were the 2 songs to battle for the 4th single, but now this is the chosen one! probably is in the top 3 songs of the album, a full of great songs album |
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Post by blurple on Jul 30, 2009 23:04:34 GMT -5
Finally! I actually prefer this over Second Chance.  |
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Post by aTunes on Jul 31, 2009 2:19:03 GMT -5
Finally! I actually prefer this over Second Chance. I'm actually beginning to as well. And I didn't even think this was that great up until the last few months. It's the same thing that happened with Sound of Madness for me, never liked it that much, then one day I just loved it. |
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Post by pen on Jul 31, 2009 3:01:31 GMT -5
It's your body going into self-defense mode. It knows when you're going to hear a song multiple times in the next few weeks.
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Post by aTunes on Jul 31, 2009 3:22:34 GMT -5
It's your body going into self-defense mode. It knows when you're going to hear a song multiple times in the next few weeks. Haha, I guess so. I'll be damned if I cant get that "it's 4:03..." hook out of my head though. |
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Post by lockebox on Jul 31, 2009 6:33:37 GMT -5
And who called it? Who called it? I did ;) Excellent choice. |
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Post by fran182 on Aug 4, 2009 7:27:33 GMT -5
Yes!  I wanted this to be the next single. :) It's my 2nd favorite Shinedown song, just behind "Second Chance". Not sure about the rock formats but it should perform well on CHR/Top 40 and Hot AC. These are my peak predictions: #22 on Billboard Hot 100 #19 on CHR/Top 40 #5 on Hot AC #6 on Active Rock #10 on Alternative |
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Post by Cody on Aug 4, 2009 9:06:41 GMT -5
#I Dont Care on Billboard Hot Rap 100
#16 on CHR
#3 on Hot AC
#4 on Active
#8 on Alternative (That's where I Dare You peaked)
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Post by onefrayedrepublic on Aug 5, 2009 16:56:35 GMT -5
YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! Shinedown will finally be a major band. Bigger than Second Chance... should go #1 on Pop, Hot AC, active and alternative.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Aug 5, 2009 17:15:57 GMT -5
^I don't think so. Bigger than "Second Chance?" Really? That's like the biggest rock song to come out in the last year. We'll see.
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Post by Jorge_Str [Som3on3] on Aug 5, 2009 17:20:30 GMT -5
i will be happy if any other song from all their next singles will have the same success with "Second Chance" but saying that they can have even bigger success its very difficult, but not impossible
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Post by metalfan87 on Aug 5, 2009 17:21:09 GMT -5
I expect If You Only Knew to reach top 5 in Active and Alternative. Maybe it'll top 15 in Pop and maybe top 5 in Hot AC
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Post by American Idiot on Aug 5, 2009 22:42:46 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure no Shinedown song will ever be bigger than "Second Chance" as good as this song will probably do. Some may come close, but come on. "Second Chance" was beyond massive on the charts and still is now.
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Post by The Party Captain on Aug 5, 2009 22:48:38 GMT -5
Ok. Second Chance was not that great, but maybe this is better.
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Aug 5, 2009 23:22:27 GMT -5
Second Chance was amazing and this is as good if not better.....step away from the crack pipe Ninja.
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Post by The Party Captain on Aug 5, 2009 23:29:40 GMT -5
Second Chance was amazing and this is as good if not better.....step away from the crack pipe Ninja. If by crack pipe, you mean a chess board, okay. This is probably the 8th time I've said it on this board, Second Chance just didn't do it for me. I just hear nothing original in it. It was an okay song, but not THAT great. Please explain to me what is so mindblowing about Second Chance. |
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Aug 5, 2009 23:38:30 GMT -5
Like any music, songs hit a chord with listeners. Some don't for sure. You didn't like it. That's cool, i was just messing with you. The song is "mindblowing" to me and many others because we "got it". The hook, the voice, the structure all worked for me.
I am going to say this though. The "originality" comment that people makes cracks me up. Nothing and I MEAN nothing is really original anymore. It all is bits and pieces crafted out of something that came before it. I do not care and never will care if a song or band is original. If they put out a song or album that I like, that catches my ear and that I can get into, I will like it. I will NEVER say I don't like a song because it sounds like "Nirvana, Pearl Jam, The Pixies, Billy Joel, Elton John, The Beatles, The Stone, Elvis, or Robert Johnson at the Crossroads". I love music.....I don't critique it for its originality. At the same time, I don't begrudge anyone else to liking it for whatever reasons they want to. But it still makes me laugh because I'm sure that you and everyone else that says that has loved songs that were completely unoriginal. It comes down to the fact you just don't like it. That's cool. But millions of other people do as evidenced by its multiformat smash status
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Post by The Party Captain on Aug 6, 2009 0:06:24 GMT -5
I understand your originality comment (See "It's All Been Done by Barenaked Ladies).
My main problem with it (and a lot of pop radio) is that it has a theme that has been rather overplayed on pop radio. It's My Life. No Doubt. It's My Life. Bon Jovi. It's My Life. Billy Joel. He could have found other more intelligent ways to express this concept, but that would alienate the vast majority of American listeners. There's a difference between reusing an idea and doing what everyone else is doing.
Something crossing formats does not really impress me at all. Pop just means the song has great timing in its release, or it is simple enough everyone can "get it." But if you don't internally critique music in some capacity, you might as well buy a dog and listen to it howl.
I don't mean to pick a fight with you, My Life Is A Stereo (although you did contradict yourself in that statement with the "originality"). Just chalk up my ignorance and let's call it a night :)
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Aug 6, 2009 0:17:06 GMT -5
dude it's no fight, it's conversation. I don't get all upset, when its expressing opinions. Unless its one particular person, who doesn't need mentioning.
The problem with anyone critiquing music is that its subjective to every single listener. I love Second Chance....you don't. Does that mean its the most amazing song ever? No. Does that mean its not a great song? No. It just means that between you and I this song doesn't affect us the same way.
I dont understand what you are trying to say with the "It's my Life" references. I mean the newest of those (and it was a remake) was in what? '01. Just because another artist has used and idea or song title doesn't make it off limits to me.....really any artist writes what they feel at any particular time. It either clicks with an audience or doesn't. But I'm pretty sure artists don't sit down and say "hey I really liked their song, let's write a song that's about the same thing" unless of course it's something they actually feel in their hearts is something they want to articulate.
I'm not sure how I contradicted myself though. You might need to explain that to me.
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Post by Cody on Aug 6, 2009 9:46:31 GMT -5
dude it's no fight, it's conversation. I don't get all upset, when its expressing opinions. Unless its one particular person, who doesn't need mentioning. The problem with anyone critiquing music is that its subjective to every single listener. I love Second Chance....you don't. Does that mean its the most amazing song ever? No. Does that mean its not a great song? No. It just means that between you and I this song doesn't affect us the same way. I dont understand what you are trying to say with the "It's my Life" references. I mean the newest of those (and it was a remake) was in what? '01. Just because another artist has used and idea or song title doesn't make it off limits to me.....really any artist writes what they feel at any particular time. It either clicks with an audience or doesn't. But I'm pretty sure artists don't sit down and say "hey I really liked their song, let's write a song that's about the same thing" unless of course it's something they actually feel in their hearts is something they want to articulate. I'm not sure how I contradicted myself though. You might need to explain that to me. :) well said Also, factual evidence such as sales, radio play, and chart performance indicate that Second Chance is indeed a great song. Let him give his opinion about it not being very good and let it be I guess, the majority of us disagree with that and go along with what the facts say |
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