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Post by Au$tin on Mar 18, 2010 16:04:28 GMT -5
Save your time, AI will never even peak in the Top 50 with anything. Sorry, there, i said it. Artists don't chart. Only songs and albums do. If Miley Cyrus, Selena Gomez, Jonas Brothers, Jesse McCartney, and Hilary Duff can crack the top 50 with their Disney tag, anyone can. It just takes the right promotion and the right song at the right moment.
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Post by Envoirment on Mar 22, 2010 18:25:59 GMT -5
This has to be put on the US album.... This is a great song and tbh I think it could be a moderate hit! Atm its only on the Japanese version of the album. It's called "One More Reason" P.S: Sorry If it's already been posted, but I cbb to look back through the other pages; quite tired Edit: Nvm it was posted on page 7; but seemed to have been ignored (partially) so here it is again!
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Post by realityBITES on Apr 9, 2010 0:30:12 GMT -5
Is this doing anything? :(
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Post by brb on Apr 9, 2010 16:20:36 GMT -5
Not really..
107 119 ALLISON IRAHETA Scars 32 35 -3 0.053
I hope Allison comes back with a new material, new records company, and new management in a few years.
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Post by jaytee on Apr 9, 2010 18:03:28 GMT -5
I think it peaked at like... 50 spins just inside the top 100. So basically it went nowhere fast.
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Post by Juanca on Apr 10, 2010 1:07:09 GMT -5
I never liked this song as a single... not Pop appealing enough. VERY wrong choice from the label. BUT I'm pissed at how FIBOU didn't connect. Probably the timing was also wrong. Very little promotion and very close to the Xmas freeze. That should have been a Top20 hit.
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Post by gato on Apr 11, 2010 7:49:44 GMT -5
I never liked this song as a single... not Pop appealing enough. VERY wrong choice from the label. BUT I'm pissed at how FIBOU didn't connect. Probably the timing was also wrong. Very little promotion and very close to the Xmas freeze. That should have been a Top20 hit. I'm starting to question Jive's motivation. This stinks of wanting to make a quick buck. I wish they had put more effort into promo. The gal is talented. :(
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Post by StarSprinkles on Apr 16, 2010 11:32:39 GMT -5
Adam just tweeted that Allison and Orianthi will be his opening acts for his tour! Adam loves Alli like a little sister, and she calls him her big brother, so this is really sweet :) I'm happy for her!
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Post by soundUPsceneDOWN on Apr 16, 2010 12:39:49 GMT -5
Ugh. How is that supposed to help her?
Most of Adam's fans saw her on Idol last year -- they already know her and aren't taking the bait. She needs to hook up with a tour that is completely different from the audience she was playing to on Idol, especially since Idol's demographic isn't really her demographic anyway (she needs to play to a lot of folks in their late teens and early twenties).
The only thing this tour is good for is so Allison gets further performing experience. Otherwise it's just Simon Fuller throwing a bunch of 19M clients into one tour, probably for cost-saving purposes.
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Post by StarSprinkles on Apr 16, 2010 12:47:17 GMT -5
The fundamental difference between the Idol tour and this tour is that Alli will be performing her own music this time around. I'm so excited! I love Alli's album, so I'm glad I might get to see her and Adam this summer together :)
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Post by brb on Apr 16, 2010 12:56:06 GMT -5
Most of Adam's fans saw her on Idol last year -- they already know her and aren't taking the bait. She needs to hook up with a tour that is completely different from the audience she was playing to on Idol, especially since Idol's demographic isn't really her demographic anyway (she needs to play to a lot of folks in their late teens and early twenties). This is not AI anymore, I'm sure Adam now has many fans that didn't hear about him during Idol time and don't know much about Allison. As for early twenties, me and most of my friends who are fans of Adam's since AI are in our twenties but don't care much about Allison these days and didn't hear her own material yet (I did hear FIBOU and didn't like it,) so again, this is generalization. Not many artists would want to have an opening act that didn't sell even 100K from their album and doesn't have any hit song. Adam could have toured only with Orianthi and all his performances that were published so far in June and September include only Orianthi. I think he added Allison to his tour to help her and I like him even more for that. JMO.
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Post by soundUPsceneDOWN on Apr 16, 2010 12:59:08 GMT -5
This thread is about Allison. My comments were made because I'm an Allison fan.
I just don't see how there is any way Allison would ever be put as an opening artist for Adam had there not been an Idol/19M connection. They are completely different types of artists, and when a management company is looking for tours that's what they try to look for - an act that is similar to their own. I want Allison to be put on a tour that is meant to help her, not one that would be fun for Adam's fan base. In other words, I want 19M to do their job and start working for her, and in her best interest. I don't see this pairing as doing much of anything for her.
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Post by brb on Apr 16, 2010 13:12:47 GMT -5
IMO, artists who lead a tour usually want an opening act that could assist them too in gaining fans. Considering the amount of people who bought her album and singles, Allison doesn't have many fans, so why should an established act that has a similar sound to hers would want to have her opening their tour unless they share the same management company or record company as she does?
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Post by soundUPsceneDOWN on Apr 16, 2010 15:06:13 GMT -5
^^ I'm not sure I've ever heard that before. Opening acts generally get paid very little to nothing, and there's a reason for that - they aren't big sellers or aren't known quantities.
The opening act's management gets them the gig primarily to help the opening act get more fans and sell more albums. So it's most beneficial if the opening act is opening for an artist who is at least within the same sphere musically, or whose audience would be the most likely people to buy the opening act's music.
On very rare occasions the opening act is there to help the main act fill seats, and in those cases the distinction between "opening" and "main" act only lies in which artist is paying for most of the tour. This isn't one of those cases. So I fully expected Adam to choose opening acts who aren't well know quantities. I just expected him to find artists that were more in line with him musically, or at least artists who would appeal most to his particular fan base.
Frankly, I wish, when 19M was trying to find a gig for Allison, they would have tapped Jordin Sparks instead. She's got Kate Voegele opening for her (who hasn't sold many albums and never had a top 40 hit). While I don't know whether Jordin will play to the same size audiences, at least we know that the people that go to Jordin's concerts are open to pop music recorded by young female pop artists. Allison and Jordin may not be completely similar stylistically, but they're both pop and they both record music that young adults would enjoy.
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Post by tippytoes on Apr 16, 2010 15:18:08 GMT -5
Maybe Jordin didn't want Allison.
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Post by soundUPsceneDOWN on Apr 16, 2010 15:21:04 GMT -5
Maybe Jordin didn't want Allison. Nah, I can't see that. I doubt 19M even thought about it.
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Post by Au$tin on Apr 16, 2010 18:10:25 GMT -5
Most of Adam's fans saw her on Idol last year -- they already know her and aren't taking the bait. She needs to hook up with a tour that is completely different from the audience she was playing to on Idol, especially since Idol's demographic isn't really her demographic anyway (she needs to play to a lot of folks in their late teens and early twenties). This is not AI anymore, I'm sure Adam now has many fans that didn't hear about him during Idol time and don't know much about Allison. As for early twenties, me and most of my friends who are fans of Adam's since AI are in our twenties but don't care much about Allison these days and didn't hear her own material yet (I did hear FIBOU and didn't like it,) so again, this is generalization. Not many artists would want to have an opening act that didn't sell even 100K from their album and doesn't have any hit song. Adam could have toured only with Orianthi and all his performances that were published so far in June and September include only Orianthi. I think he added Allison to his tour to help her and I like him even more for that. JMO. Kelly Clarkson had Rooney WAY before they started to get big. Natasha Bedingfield had The Veronicas before "Untouched" blew up. Most opening acts ARE artists who aren't very big.
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Post by Rodze on Apr 16, 2010 19:07:45 GMT -5
While I don't agree it is the best pairing, Allison would be probably be doing nothing without this management peer tour.
Also, she might benefit from the overexposure 19 will try to make for this tour.
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Post by brb on Apr 17, 2010 9:11:13 GMT -5
Kelly Clarkson had Rooney WAY before they started to get big. Natasha Bedingfield had The Veronicas before "Untouched" blew up. Most opening acts ARE artists who aren't very big. I'd say there's always has to be a connection between the artists, such as between Natasha and The Veronicas. As for Rooney, I got no clue who they are, lol, but back then they were signed to the same company as Orianthi is so perhaps they had some connection to 19. Either way, none of these examples contained two opening acts. Adam already has an opening act that is not as big, Orianthi, and performances already published in Minneapolis (June) and Tampa (September) included only Orianthi. Foxwoods publicity yesterday IIRC also included only Adam and Orianthi, unless I missed something. Looks like Allison is a late addition to this tour. As for Allison + Jordin match, I'd personally would like to see Jordin promoted more as an R&B artist ("No Air") and less as a pop artist ("SOS",) so I don't think they are a better match.
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Post by street on Apr 17, 2010 10:23:51 GMT -5
"Not many artists would want to have an opening act that didn't sell even 100K from their album "
How many albums has Orianthi sold? I bet not much more than that? I don't think this will affect Allison that much without a hit single on the radio. I don't see the tour affecting her sales significantly.
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Post by brb on Apr 17, 2010 10:41:27 GMT -5
"Not many artists would want to have an opening act that didn't sell even 100K from their album " How many albums has Orianthi sold? I bet not much more than that? I don't think this will affect Allison that much without a hit single on the radio. I don't see the tour affecting her sales significantly. Actually, Orianthi already sold over 98K in the week after her performance in Idol, and considering it's been 3-4 weeks since? I think she passed 100K already. Allison doesn't have a #3 CHR hit, she doesn't even have a single that reached the top 50, and Orianthi doesn't have the AI background that Allison had.
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Post by overboard on Apr 17, 2010 14:03:37 GMT -5
Going on tour with Adam will do absolutely nothing for her career. Still, its better then nothing, and that is what it was looking like up until this announcement.
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Post by soundUPsceneDOWN on Apr 17, 2010 14:40:30 GMT -5
^^ Well, yeah, the only thing it'll do is give her more performing experience, and something to do with her time.
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Post by pnobelysk on Apr 18, 2010 16:05:56 GMT -5
Kelly Clarkson had Rooney WAY before they started to get big. Natasha Bedingfield had The Veronicas before "Untouched" blew up. Most opening acts ARE artists who aren't very big. I'd say there's always has to be a connection between the artists, such as between Natasha and The Veronicas. As for Rooney, I got no clue who they are, lol, but back then they were signed to the same company as Orianthi is so perhaps they had some connection to 19. Either way, none of these examples contained two opening acts. Adam already has an opening act that is not as big, Orianthi, and performances already published in Minneapolis (June) and Tampa (September) included only Orianthi. Foxwoods publicity yesterday IIRC also included only Adam and Orianthi, unless I missed something. Looks like Allison is a late addition to this tour. As for Allison + Jordin match, I'd personally would like to see Jordin promoted more as an R&B artist ("No Air") and less as a pop artist ("SOS",) so I don't think they are a better match. BEP has two opening acts , LMFAO who are still getting their fanbase, and Ludacris who is very established usually u go on tour to promote an upcoming or current album which is exactly what allison is doing im not surprised shes touring with adam didnt they love their duet of slow ride?
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