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Post by tsr on Jul 28, 2010 0:15:25 GMT -5
I hope the next single is "Someday When I Stop Loving You." It's MUCH stronger than "What Can I Say" in my opinion, and I think it would (not that she needs it) benefit better in the long run. I could see them going with "Mama's Song" though since it's another co-write (which is all she's released this era), and since it ties in with being newly married. If they're going for strictly co-writes, they'll probably release "What Can I Say," but I hope they take a risk and release "Someday..." Anything but "Mama's Song." I think that would end her #1 streak and possibly do for her what "Fifteen" did for Taylor.
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Post by #brayden on Jul 28, 2010 0:16:38 GMT -5
I actually really like 'Mama's Song'. I just think it would be an incredibly weak single choice.
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Post by joey2002 on Jul 28, 2010 1:11:37 GMT -5
I actually really like 'Mama's Song'. I just think it would be an incredibly weak single choice. Yeah ... although it certainly would be an appropriate time for Carrie to release it! Oh, and I'm the good guy she was really talking about in the song, not Mike Fisher... ;)
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Post by ekgoodman92 on Jul 28, 2010 8:48:09 GMT -5
I would love for Quitter to be released as the next single and then Songs Like This. I enjoy all the songs on the album but Quitter and Songs Like This are my favorites
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Post by fischbone on Jul 28, 2010 11:49:20 GMT -5
I think it's between WCIS and SWISLY with WCIS in the lead just for the SoS factor. I really think Carrie wants to help Sons of Sylvia as much as she can and this could give them a good boost.
My personal preference would be SWISLY then SLT to close out the era. Please God no to MS or Quitter ever seeing the light of day! lol
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Jul 28, 2010 11:58:13 GMT -5
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 28, 2010 12:01:08 GMT -5
Something about Sons of Sylvia being included just doesn't feel right to me. Like they aren't bad, but they just don't seem worthy of being featured on a single w/ Carrie Underwood or something.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Jul 28, 2010 12:06:33 GMT -5
Something about Sons of Sylvia being included just doesn't feel right to me. Like they aren't bad, but they just don't seem worthy of being featured on a single w/ Carrie Underwood or something. I agree, I wish she had a big name artist on that song...then I wouldn't hesitate to say "Send it to radio!" With Sons of Sylvia however, it's a mediocre ballad at best, although Carrie sounds amazing! If it were a single, there is no doubt in my mind it would go #1. With that said, I think the best choice for the next single is "Someday When I Stop Loving You". It's just meant to be, I think... Carrie's voice sounds incredible and the lyrics are very strong. Anyway, congrats to Carrie on another #1, although it was predictable...it still happened, and you never can really know!!! Let's make it 14!!!!
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Post by longislandcountry on Jul 28, 2010 12:38:13 GMT -5
I actually really love "Unapologize". I think it's overlooked and underrated. I'd love to see this as one of the singles.
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Post by Cody Wants Out... on Jul 28, 2010 12:49:28 GMT -5
I see SWISLY going to #1, although they probably can screw up its chart run if it doesn't receive the proper promo and whatnot. IN an interview or somethin', I believe that she said that her favorite song from the album was SWISLY, although I can see her having a reason to push SoS. WCIS, on the other hand, sounds more like an album track than a single and would most likely be the second (unconfirmed) single of hers I hate, and I don't wanna hate any of her singles. :( I can also unfortunately see MS going to radio, too. If they stick with MS, I'll just turn the radio OFF when it comes on, no matter how radio-friendly it sounds (or does it?). We'll just wait and see what happens.
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Post by countrybamafan on Jul 28, 2010 13:03:58 GMT -5
I do think WCIS will be next. I did an unscientific survey on the fan club for next single (meaning it's only as accurate as the people who chose to participate in it) and WCIS seemed to be the consensus choice for next single....with SWISLY a close 2nd...and Quitter a very close 3rd. It seems fans love WCIS and SWISLY about equally. On carriefans, there is a poll for next single, and SWISLY is in the lead with 65 votes with WCIS in second having 46 votes. The next closest is Quitter with 14. I realize this isn't a large amount of people but still something worth looking at. It seems obvious WCIS and SWISLY are the two favorites by a large margin. I don't think one should be sacrificed for the other. Both should be released. I agree with others that having someone like Keith Urban would have been better on WCIS, but Sons of Sylvia sound good enough on record, and I just love the song and how Carrie sounds on it, one of my favorites from Carrie. It's possible if WCIS is released, a bigger star may sing on the single version (like the case with Reba's "Every Other Weekend" where Kenny sang on the single version instead of that other guy whose name I can't remember). I'm quite sure Carrie would be completely against it, but will Arista allow her to have her way? It'll be interesting to see. Even with Sons of Sylvia, I think WCIS is a surefire hit. I say WCIS next, followed by SWISLY (There's no reason why she can't have 2 ballads in a row. She did in the Carnival Ride era with Just A Dream and I Told You So). If there are 6 singles, then I say Songs Like This to close out this era. That's the song most likely to be a hit after WCIS and SWISLY. If not, then "Quitter" REALLY needs to be released. It's such a different song for country radio. I think it'd be a risk. A risk that would probably pay off because Carrie is Carrie. Please no! Lots of people are saying please not Mama's Song, I'm saying please not Quitter! Yes, it's a bit of a different sound for country radio, and I agree sometimes you need to take chances, but not with such a cheeeesy, awful song. "Boy meets girl, girl leaves boy" YUCK! What makes this much worse is that the production sounds like something out of a Disney movie (for some reason, I think of Little Mermaid). It's interesting at how polarizing this song is, but I think most country radio listeners would not like this (I suppose I may be wrong, but I don't think so on this one).
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Post by carrieidol1 on Jul 28, 2010 17:19:26 GMT -5
I agree about "Quitter" countrybamafan, I think it's one of Carrie's worst songs. While listening to the album, it's the only I skip over.
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Post by drock89 on Jul 28, 2010 18:45:35 GMT -5
If they are going to go with a ballad, they almost have to go with "Look At Me." It's one of the strongest ballads she's recorded thus far and I think pulls her back into the country fold after "Undo It."
If they are going with another uptempo, which I'm okay with them doing, they really only have two choices: "Songs Like This" and "Quitter." I'm a big fan of the message that "Quitter" sends to country radio; it is creative on many levels (vocals, lyrics, production) and really is unlike any Carrie single to date. But I can see the appeal of "Songs Like This;" it's much better than the ditty that "Undo It" is and Carrie is closing her shows with it. But I feel that it's too much in the girl-anthem vein that Carrie wants to be careful not to close herself into.
It'll be interesting to see what Carrie's A&R team decide on.
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Post by tsharky on Jul 28, 2010 18:52:19 GMT -5
I love both SWISLY and What Can I Say and I think either or both would work as singles, even back to back. I actually think What Can I Say could be a huge hit for Carrie as it is very radio friendly, and Carrie has never really released a full on love song like this (except I Told You So, but that was a cover).
^ Shania, I also love "Look at Me" and think it is one of the most under-rated songs on the album. Her vocals are beautiful in that song, especially with Vince Gill to back her again.
I will be so unhappy and shocked if Mama's Song is a single, since it is not even worthy to be an album track, IMO. It seems like a pretty, sweet song Carrie wrote for her mom, that should have been a personal gift to her rather then an album track. It's just very dull and repetitive to me, and the lyrics are not strong. It is also one of the least favorite songs on all the fan polls on the Fanclub and in other forums.
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Post by bigbluenote on Jul 28, 2010 18:53:19 GMT -5
I actually really love "Unapologize". I think it's overlooked and underrated. I'd love to see this as one of the singles. "Unapologize" is one of my favorites too and I agree that it is overlooked and underrated. I feel the same way about "This Time".
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Post by Rodze on Jul 28, 2010 18:57:56 GMT -5
www.billboard.com/#/column/chartbeat/chart-beat-wednesday-carrie-underwood-ke-1004106566.storyIT'S' NO. 1: Carrie Underwood collects her 10th No. 1 on Country Songs, as "Undo It" lifts 2-1. The song is the third leader from Underwood's "Play On" album, following "Cowboy Casanova" and "Temporary Home." Underwood plated three Country Songs No. 1s from her debut set, "Some Hearts," in 2006-07 and four from "Carnival Ride" in 2007-08. In addition to her 10 toppers, Underwood's two other singles promoted to country radio - "Don't Forget to Remember Me" and "I Told You So," the latter featuring Randy Travis - each peaked at No. 2. With 10 No. 1s on Country Songs, Underwood ties Reba McEntire for most chart champions among women since the survey converted to Nielsen BDS-monitored airplay data as of Jan. 20, 1990. Here is a look at the solo female artists with the most leaders in that span: 10, Reba McEntire 10, Carrie Underwood 9, Faith Hill 7, Shania Twain 6, Jo Dee Messina 5, Martina McBride 5, Trisha Yearwood 4, Sara Evans 4, Patty Loveless 4, Taylor Swift 4, Wynonna Among all artists since Jan. 20, 1990, McEntire and Underwood (and Rascal Flatts) trail nine solo males and one duo for most Country Songs No. 1s. Here are all the acts to total double-digit leading titles in the chart's BDS-monitored era: 26, George Strait 25, Alan Jackson 23, Tim McGraw 20, Brooks & Dunn 19, Toby Keith 18, Garth Brooks 17, Kenny Chesney 15, Brad Paisley 11, Clint Black 11, Keith Urban 10, Reba McEntire 10, Rascal Flatts 10, Carrie Underwood ------------------- I think WCIS could do well on other formats like HAC and AC, but it's not like her label cares or my opinion matters.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Jul 28, 2010 19:45:51 GMT -5
I could see them going with "Mama's Song" though since it's another co-write (which is all she's released this era), and since it ties in with being newly married. If they're going for strictly co-writes, they'll probably release "What Can I Say," but I hope they take a risk and release "Someday..." Anything but "Mama's Song." I think that would end her #1 streak and possibly do for her what "Fifteen" did for Taylor. Well last era they released 3 co-writes and then released "Just A Dream", which Carrie didn't write. I wouldn't be surprised if they did that and released "Someday When I Stop Loving You" and then closing the album with "Quitter" (this would be the perfect era for me). Carrie has tended to show some repetitiveness with single choices, especially with 3rd and 4th single choices (I know this may be pure coincidence, but its a valid point). "Before He Cheats", "Last Name", and "Undo It" are all feisty songs about the mistakes she made in relationships with guys. and "Wasted" and "Just A Dream" were both the standout, powerful ballads on each album, so "Someday When I Stop Loving You" would fit the 4th single spot on "Play On". But I could also see her releasing "Quitter" next for the same reason you suggested "Mama's Song" as the next single (which I love MS but it would be an awful single choice). "Someday When I Stop Loving You" would contradict her life at this point (same as "What Can I Say") whereas "Quitter" and "Mama's Song" would match it perfectly. So I could definitely see Carrie releasing one of these. The only songs I could see being 4th and 5th singles from the rest of the era are: What Can I Say Someday When I Stop Loving You Mama's Song Quitter and what I believe and fear is going to happen is that "Change" will be her next single, which is easily my least favorite from her album. Or maybe that will follow "I Told You So" as 5th singles being my least favorite on the entire album (although that changed after ITYS was released, now I enjoy it much more) Prediction: 4th single: Change 5th single: What Can I Say Although, I hope I am very wrong. It will be a real shame if "Someday When I Stop Loving You" isn't released though. I hope its SWISLY then Quitter and if they go 6 then WCIS It's possible if WCIS is released, a bigger star may sing on the single version (like the case with Reba's "Every Other Weekend" where Kenny sang on the single version instead of that other guy whose name I can't remember). I'm quite sure Carrie would be completely against it, but will Arista allow her to have her way? It'll be interesting to see. It was the other way around though. Kenny was on the album version but his label didn't want it being released (I believe that was the reason why) so Reba went and got some guy I'd never heard of for the radio version. I think that was part of the reason that phenomenal song didn't perform like it should have on the charts.
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Post by drock89 on Jul 28, 2010 20:11:56 GMT -5
I also wonder if they will go with an up-tempo now and send "Change" out for the holidays. Of course, that depends on the rumored Christmas album, but it'd be a nice single, and a great message, for the season of giving. I could even see a collaboration with the Salvation Army... really I should be a marketing major....
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Post by Cody Wants Out... on Jul 28, 2010 21:08:30 GMT -5
Well last era they released 3 co-writes and then released "Just A Dream", which Carrie didn't write. I wouldn't be surprised if they did that and released "Someday When I Stop Loving You" and then closing the album with "Quitter" (this would be the perfect era for me) *gasp* That would be the perfect era for me, too!!!! ....and if a sizth single should follow, then it must be WCIS! Then everyone's happy (almost). :)
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Post by countrygirl918 on Jul 28, 2010 21:25:37 GMT -5
Shouldn't all this 4th single speculation go in the Play On era thread? I'll take my response there.
As for Undo It, what are the chances currently looking like for a second week at #1?
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Post by rowdawg21 on Jul 28, 2010 21:40:38 GMT -5
As for Undo It, what are the chances currently looking like for a second week at #1? It's not looking good. Carrie is projected to finish 500k ahead of ZBB right now, but I expect Carrie to start falling faster and ZBB to get a push to #1. Today on the Mediabase real time chart, "Undo It" is down 94 spins while "Free" is up 75.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Jul 28, 2010 21:46:02 GMT -5
Shouldn't all this 4th single speculation go in the Play On era thread? I'll take my response there. Yes, please, and thank you. I'm usually willing to field a certain amount of next single speculation in a thread after a single has peaked, but this thread poses the prospect of pages of rehashed speculation bumping up a song that has already peaked. So yeah, if you wish to plan out or speculate subsequent Play On singles, please take your thoughts to the current Carrie Underwood, Play On thread. Thanks again.
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Post by joey2002 on Jul 28, 2010 21:50:57 GMT -5
As for Undo It, what are the chances currently looking like for a second week at #1? Well Carrie has about a 2.5 mill. lead on Zac Brown right now, so I think it all depends on if she can keep gaining, or if she starts dropping soon. The next couple days should lead to a better indication... but I'm guessing that Zac Brown really wants to reach #1 next week.
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Post by countrygirl918 on Jul 28, 2010 21:57:59 GMT -5
It's not looking good. Carrie is projected to finish 500k ahead of ZBB right now, but I expect Carrie to start falling faster and ZBB to get a push to #1. Today on the Mediabase real time chart, "Undo It" is down 94 spins while "Free" is up 75. Well Carrie has about a 2.5 mill. lead on Zac Brown right now, so I think it all depends on if she can keep gaining, or if she starts dropping soon. The next couple days should lead to a better indication... but I'm guessing that Zac Brown really wants to reach #1 next week. Sounds like all it would take for a second week at the top would be a small label push of Undo It. It's looking less and less likely that "Lover, Lover" will make it to the top, so I'm surprised Arista hasn't shown much interest at all in keeping UI at the top for as long as possible. Won't get my hopes up, though. According to Cary at CF, WUSN has added "Free" to its power rotation, which minimizes the chances of a two-week stay at #1 for UI even further.
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Post by joey2002 on Jul 28, 2010 22:34:18 GMT -5
That's alright -- simply getting a #1 hit is always something to be proud of...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2010 23:22:43 GMT -5
^Dudley stated the following earlier this evening on this thread: Shouldn't all this 4th single speculation go in the Play On era thread? I'll take my response there. Yes, please, and thank you. I'm usually willing to field a certain amount of next single speculation in a thread after a single has peaked, but this thread poses the prospect of pages of rehashed speculation bumping up a song that has already peaked. So yeah, if you wish to plan out or speculate subsequent Play On singles, please take your thoughts to the current Carrie Underwood, Play On thread. Thanks again. This is just a heads up to you, as maybe you didn't see it. I'm guilty too from earlier today or yesterday...but it sounds like she'll want us to post in the thread she pointed out, which is totally acceptable. As for "Undo It", it looked like it added some audience on this morning's MB update, but I think "Free" has its sights set on #1 for the upcoming 8/14 chart...should be interesting come the weekend...
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 29, 2010 0:05:10 GMT -5
I'm thinking (and hoping) this will get a 2nd week at #1. A lot of people said something about how the label hasn't really pushed this yet. But, I hope they start doing that soon, 'cause I'd hate to see her miss out on a 2nd week for the 3rd single in a row.
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Post by _adriano. on Jul 29, 2010 9:14:38 GMT -5
This song is done. It lost over .500 million AIs on mediabase today.
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Post by Zazie on Jul 29, 2010 11:00:43 GMT -5
The points from this song put Carrie in the top 150 on the Joel Whitburn list that Jon_Solo updates on this board periodically. It's amazing to me that she's been able to sustain her fantastic chart performance and get so high in what amounts to half a decade's worth of career. Unbelievable, in fact.
So I have to tip my hat to her. As those of you who've been here for awhile know, I don't care for any of the music she has released so far, but I do have to accept that she's having an amazing career.
In a related vein: is anybody here disappointed by the chart run of Undo It? I know she got to #1, but the last month when she could have surged forward into a much higher audience total and earned a 3-4 week run at the top (or I think she could have), instead she stalled out. Getting to #1 is itself a fine achievement but I think a couple of years ago this song would have been a 4 weeker. I'm not going back to the early pages of this thread, but I think there were a lot of predictions there for a multiple week run.
So is this a setback? A triumph? A sign that she can't go at the same pace forever? Or a sign that she can....
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Post by onebuffalo on Jul 29, 2010 11:13:14 GMT -5
The points from this song put Carrie in the top 150 on the Joel Whitburn list that Jon_Solo updates on this board periodically. It's amazing to me that she's been able to sustain her fantastic chart performance and get so high in what amounts to half a decade's worth of career. Unbelievable, in fact. So I have to tip my hat to her. As those of you who've been here for awhile know, I don't care for any of the music she has released so far, but I do have to accept that she's having an amazing career. In a related vein: is anybody here disappointed by the chart run of Undo It? I know she got to #1, but the last month when she could have surged forward into a much higher audience total and earned a 3-4 week run at the top (or I think she could have), instead she stalled out. Getting to #1 is itself a fine achievement but I think a couple of years ago this song would have been a 4 weeker. I'm not going back to the early pages of this thread, but I think there were a lot of predictions there for a multiple week run. So is this a setback? A triumph? A sign that she can't go at the same pace forever? Or a sign that she can.... Not really. When you take a look at my #1 Hit Artists thread, you now see Carrie Underwood in the TOP half of that list. I do believe that if Keith Urban does not go #1 with I'm In (another artist in the top half), Underwood WILL pass him for more #1s in 2011. I believe she will have more multi week #1s left in her (her last being Just A Dream in 2008-2 weeks at the top). It will take the right song and the right circumstances (chart wise) for her to do so.
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